If someone tries poisoning your pet, what should be the punishment?

[CelineBV]

My friend got very emotional last week. Her cat survived from a poison attempt. They found who the 2 scumbags were; 12 year-old boys from dysfunctional families.

If someone tried poisoning your pet, what would you do? What should be the punishment? What if it was a minor (12 and/or younger)?

[humpbackjack]

They’re old enough to know right from wrong and still young enough that they might be able to get scared straight and if they catch a charge it’s not something that will stick with them as an adult so they’ll get a do over at eighteen probably the best thing for them would be to get put on probation and get some counseling if they wind up in juvenile detention it might have the reverse effect on them meaning they might learn being locked up isn’t as scary as everyone thinks don’t get me wrong it’s no fun but as long as you’re willing to fight for yours usually you’ll do alright no matter whether you win or lose then you end up with a kid that’s pissed off and not afraid of the consequences and he learned how to be a better criminal as stupid as it sounds if you have a little brother or cousin or friend that’s a minor like 15 or younger have them handle it

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

They should be placed in jail and see what it is... Hey I was age 11, and my late grand-dad took me to see the jailhouse, He was a Deputy Sheriff of our Count... I met a Yablonski killer he told me behind the bar... He said son don't ever do what I did
cause you will pay the price as I did, He was very nice guy.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Thanks for Most Helpful Guy :)

[dustybiker]

It’s a federally offense now as of just the last couple years. Push the fullest extent of punishment under the law. Animals have no voice. These psychopaths have probably done it before and will do it again without punishment.

https://www.humanesociety.org/news/extreme-animal-cruelty-can-now-be-prosecuted-federal-crime

[Prettygurl12]

That's animal cruelty and is definitely a felony in Georgia. I want to say it's 5 years but I'm not positive.

If you poison my animal consider yourself lucky if I allow you to live long enough for the criminal justice system to deal with you. Just sayin'...

[zerofuks]

Is that's a state law not federal law sadly most States consider pet's property and it's the same as destroying someone's property of the same as destroying someone's property of the same value it's very sick. Sad thing is we'll probably never fix this because people do not want to accept this is the law they just put their head in the sand and cry

[Prettygurl12]

@zerofuks It's OCGA 16-12-4. I feel like intentionally poisoning an animal classifies for the subsection 2c which specifies imprisonment of not less than 1 but not more than 5 years and/or a fine not to exceed $15,000.00.

[zerofuks]

Yes I told you state level have different laws and very few States have those lost like 5 or so only

[Prettygurl12]

@zerofuks I'm aware. But at least Georgia is on top of it.

[zerofuks]

Yes also the problem is the age because they're under aids they're literally not going to get punished they're going to get a slap on the wrist believe they're above the law and do worst activities

[kyleelyn199723]

Get the police involved. They’re consequences doing things like that, also shows aggression in those boys that they are willing to harm animals for no reason.

[zerofuks]

killing someone's pet is literally the same as destroying property legally. So the law literally will do very little about it they'll just talk to them if you're lucky

[kyleelyn199723]

@zerofuks doesn’t matter. Those little boys need to be scared and realize there’s consequences. Calling the cops will scare them regardless of what happens to them

[zerofuks]

No why would that scare them the cops literally would do nothing it will actually empower them because they understand there is no consequences for their actions Literally it will be the same as destroying the same value of property so if you adopted a cat for $20 let's say It's basically like they destroyed $20 worth the property of yours that is it.

[kyleelyn199723]

@zerofuks I’m not sure why you are arguing over contacting the police. Harming animals is not okay. Something needs to be done. Police is a great and safe resort. I’m not going to sit here and argue about this nonsense. Cats are worth more than $20. They are a pet to many. I had my cat for 16 years and she’s family. So fuck your dumb opinion

[zerofuks]

Again I'm just pointing out how the cops literally would do nothing because under the law a pet is property. Give example of a cost and really that's probably a pretty common one When you consider pound adoptions. Yes maybe you have some pure bred cat that's in the thousands but really all that does is make the value of the property destroyed the cost of the pet. And because they're under age it literally would be a slap on the risk even if it was a pure bread worth thousands.

It's actually pretty common for people to kill people's pets as a act of revenge because it's such a minor crime and really it's just not going to have any real consequences under the law

[zerofuks]

So the cops will do nothing the kids will see the cops do nothing and get empowered and commit more crimes your idea doesn't work because the punishment is actually not there on the legal side

[kyleelyn199723]

Uhhh going around positioning peoples pets is a legal offense. Fuck your dumb opinion

[kyleelyn199723]

Poisoning *

[zerofuks]

Yes it's the same as if you destroyed someone's property of the same value it's a very very minor crime that is really not even punishable unless it's a very high value property.

[kyleelyn199723]

local21news.com/.../man-arrested-for-poisoning-animals

[kyleelyn199723]

Fuck your dumb opinion

[zerofuks]

Dogs, cats, and other animals are treated like property under the law. That usually means that people who kill someone else's dog may have to compensate the owner, just as if they destroyed another kind of property that wasn't theirs.

www.nolo.com/.../chapter9-2.html

[kyleelyn199723]

Fuck your dumb opinion.

[zerofuks]

The vast majority the time it's the same as Is destroying property some States have extra punishments if you do something really crazy but really it's a minor minor crime especially for people under age they will have no punishment

[kyleelyn199723]

Fuck your opinion..

[zerofuks]

Posting legal law and you just keep on crying if you don't like the law you need to change it not think the law doesn't exist as it is now pets are property. Are treated the same as such.

Really I think they should be treated the same as like a 4 or 5 year old kid in every way You killed someone's pet it should be the same if you killed like a four-year-old human

[kyleelyn199723]

Fuck your opinion !

[zerofuks]

Yep all you do is Spam when you realize you're wrong and confronted with the real world

[kyleelyn199723]

That’s all I have to say to you. Fuck your opinion. Fuck off my comment

[zerofuks]

Continuing to prove my point thank you you're a joke

[kyleelyn199723]

Actually I’m not wrong. Your nonsense is annoying

[zerofuks]

I literally posted legal law and your crying over it

[kyleelyn199723]

You think your opinion is correct

[kyleelyn199723]

I’m simply telling you, fuck off

[zerofuks]

Dogs, cats, and other animals are treated like property under the law. That usually means that people who kill someone else's dog may have to compensate the owner, just as if they destroyed another kind of property that wasn't theirs.

www.nolo.com/.../chapter9-2.html

[kyleelyn199723]

Fuck off

[zerofuks]

Try reading the law and not just crying when you're wrong

[kyleelyn199723]

Fuck off..

[kyleelyn199723]

@asker do not listen to this moron. The least you can do is get the cops involved and go from there.

[zerofuks]

Sorry you hate the law instead of getting angry maybe try to change it as I said not act like this is not the truth

[zerofuks]

I literally posted a legal link and you're just posting your opinion

[kyleelyn199723]

Fuck directly off

[zerofuks]

Read the law

www.nolo.com/.../chapter9-2.html

[kyleelyn199723]

And I posted one too, saying a man was arrested for poisoning neighbors pets. So fuck off

[kyleelyn199723]

Absolutely fuck off

[zerofuks]

And that is state level laws that are very rarely enforced and only in 1 or 2 States most of the time it's the same as destroying property and for a minor it's even less so they will get a slap on the nothing will be done to them

[kyleelyn199723]

*gets resources from nolo. com* “look my evidence is 100% reliable” fuck off

[kyleelyn199723]

100% fuck off

[zerofuks]

Is why is it so difficult for you to read the law and understand how fucked up it is?

[kyleelyn199723]

Because fuck off

[zerofuks]

A lawyer website versus your imagination take a lawyer's word versus this random person's belief the law doesn't exist maybe one day people will understand the law and we could actually fix the law but people like you just cannot accept it pets are treated as property it's very sick

[kyleelyn199723]

Fuck off.. it’s really simple

[kyleelyn199723]

@asker get the police involved, see what they can do, and make sure you hold these boys accountable. Have a great holiday!

[humpbackjack]

He’s partly right but poisoning someone’s pet can be considered animal cruelty in a lot of states and if they’ve been doing other things towards the pet owner such as vandalism or harassing them it could go as far as terrorist threats I new of a guy in California that went to prison for 2 years for killing 2 cats I believe he was already on parole but not sure there’s lots of ins and outs for something like this the fact that it was done out of malice and poison was involved would be the main thing that could bring it to possibly felony charges

[kyleelyn199723]

@humpbackjack even if he is partially right I feel like police should have a know of what’s going on in the neighborhood , so they can keep an eye and even possibly direct the two boys into better paths. Kids those change need to know that the world doesn’t revolve around them and there’s consequences. I’m sure police deal with this all the time and know how to handle it

[humpbackjack]

@kvleelvn199723 oh yes I agree with you on that for me personally I don’t like cops so I don’t call them my wife might but not me I’d rather handle it myself I’m scarier than the police but again I believe the original poster should notify the police more than likely it won’t do a lot of good not because of the laws but because cops are lazy and glory hounds this probably wouldn’t be important enough in their eyes the first call should be to the humane society and they’ll get more shit stirred up and probably get you in touch with more animal activists or whatever because like I said before poisoning someone’s pet can take charges to a whole another level of charges regardless they’ll most likely get probation due to their age

[jaybee281]

I'm not even joking - I usually am but this is serious - I'm turning into John wick if that ever happens

[Jackpot7s]

The same as the punishment for doing it to a person. Cats are innocent animals their lives are more precious than most humans in my opinion.

[jahaims]

In this specific circumstance I would want to talk to them and possibly help them. They are lost boys who don't understand why they feel what they feel.

[NellyShines]

Indeed. They are lost kids. I know what they must be thinking. I know exactly how they must be feeling. Most people freak out and wonder why a child would do that. I know why. It's rage taking over. The animal they harm represents those times they didn't have power and control but rather someone much stronger. The child was abused for too long and most adults failed he that he became immune to suffering.

[Razp_Sorbet]

Some kind of rehabilitation program, teaching importance of not being an asshole

[humpbackjack]

Exactly because they might still be reachable cause once they get to that certain point there’s no reaching them until they either mature enough to accept they don’t know everything or something really serious happens and they get scared half to death and something like this could get really bad as they get older and do worse including murder

[Slip_slidin_away]

Well if two troubled kids tried to poison my cat I would be upset. However its a cat it take care of itself. I'm more concerned for the two lost kids.

[Anonymous]

I would murder them and leave a country I wouldn't care they deserved death you will never find me

[Opinion Owner]

Really as others said call the police and see them do nothing and you'll just realize how fucked up our system is and you're basically allowed to heal people's pets especially if your underage

[noohair]

Professional psychological intervention.
It is a key feature of a future serial killer.