Would you consider raising your child as gender fluid, why, why not?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Yes.

No.

Not sure.

Other.

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+1 y

Only one special moron voted yes. Glad to see strong common sense voting. 👌

[DaveJord]

Dude... some things you can't decide for yourself. Like you can't pick who your family is, but you can choose your who your friends are. You're just born into a family and your relatives are who they are.

You don't get to pick your gender, if you're born with a wang-a-dang you're a man. You can identify with being a whatever you want... but that will never change what you really are and you will always know and those around you will always pick up on it or sense it. So if you can manage to isolate yourself to people that will passively enable or ignore the truth about you then sure pretend to be what you want... either way GAG is not that place and most votes on these things are always pretty lopsided.

Transgender anything is based upon a lie... you can't choose what you were born to be... you can pretend you are not what you are... but in the end the facts are always the same.

[SenileOldMan]

Seems too confusing to me. I'd strongly err against it. I think it might be an interesting experiment to perform in some isolated populace on some island alienated from other cultures and human history. But it seems too confusing to me to try to raise a child in one saturated by our history and social norms.

[SenileOldMan]

The way I look at this stuff is that my job as a parent is to prepare my child for the actual world, not how the world should ideally be. And I'm not even sure if it's ideal to have a world that completely tries to turn a blind eye towards the dimorphic nature of our biology. But even if I entertain the idea that some ideal world does that, it's not the world we live in now. I don't want to risk raising some total social outcast confused about their place in the world.

[SenileOldMan]

So, on the contrary, I err on the side of raising children in a very gender-specific way. With boys, I say you are a boy, and this is what the world expects of you as a boy and when you will turn into a man. This is how the world will perceive you, judge you, and this is the world you must navigate. And same for girls.

[KatherineJ]

Raising a child as gender fluid? Why would I consider that? If my child decided that she was gender fluid that would be her choice. That doesn’t mean that I wouldn’t get her counseling to figure it out. But I wouldn’t suggest it.

[007kingifrit]

it would be wrong even to let your child decide that. children are not capable of making life decisions

gender as a concept is unscientific anyways so you can't be "fluid" in it

[KatherineJ]

@007kingifrit didn’t you see where I said I would get the kid counseling?

[007kingifrit]

well that's also not a good choice. those "counselors" will push your kids into that thing as they have an agenda

[ObscuredBeyond]

That's child abuse. They're one or the other. Confusing them only leads to perversion, death, and Hell. Plus, it sends money to highly irresponsible drug manufacturers who don't deserve a dime.

[JustinTheGreat]

I wouldn’t raise my kid as gender fluid unless it was their choice. If my kid came to me and said “hey I wanna be non-binary, trans, gender fluid, etc” I would 100% have no issue supporting them and letting them dress and express their gender the way they want.

[Gal67]

Why wouldn't you immediately send them to a psychiatrist?

[JustinTheGreat]

@Gal67 because I don’t think it’s something to go to a psychiatrist over. Studies show that most people who are trans, discovered they were that way as a young child. Kids and young teens commit suicide because they have to hide who they are, or they are taught something is wrong with them.
Plus it’s easier to transition if they start before/during puberty I think.

[Jintendo18]

Oh, I can totally imagine the first conversation with the kindergarten teacher.


“So, which of the 80-something genders does your child most often identify with and what pronoun does your child prefer when I refer to your child when speaking to your child’s classmates?”

[Jintendo18]

https://youtu.be/IzNGkwGYE4E

[deano1990]

Can I be identified as a microwave please it's 2022?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Yes, what brand you desire to be that I may accommodate you with your transition? 🙂

[AviatorTom]

Boys are boys, girls are girls and they should be raised with that understanding.

[BillyBalls]

if I had a kid i would attempt to raise the kid as a psychologically healthy person... that includes being happy being born the way they were born... male or female.

If the kid has body issues, seek psychological help.

[exitseven]

No, if the pee sitting down they are female, if they pee standing up they are male.

[Honestguyopen]

The laws of gender are set. The rest is just a made up fantasy

[CaptainSmartass]

Nope. That's how people get fucked up in the head. If I had a kid, I would raise them as the appropriate gender.

Simples...

[Gal67]

No, of course not, just as I wouldn't consider raising that child as a carrot.

[OddBeMe]

You know I never asked what gender I was. Kinda like pronouns. Never use them in the persons presence.

[Lyndsielee666]

My kids can choose when the time comes.

[Gal67]

It's not a choice though. You're either a boy or a girl. That's it, and there's nothing that anyone can do about that.

[Lyndsielee666]

@Gal67 glad your close minded self feels that way.

[007kingifrit]

he's not close minded. he's pro science, gender is an anti scientific concept as it can't be observed or falsified.

furthermore letting children make major life decisions like that is bad parenting. its up to YOU to choose major life choices for kids as they lack the experience to do that

[Lyndsielee666]

@007kingifrit yes bad parenting to let kids be what they want to be🥴

[Gal67]

"Kids" don't know what they want to be! While we're at it, why don't we let them drink alcohol as well, and drive cars and shoot guns? How about voting too? And taking bank loans to start up their own businesses. And we should encourage them to get married as well, because, you know, the sooner the better.

[007kingifrit]

@Lyndsielee666 its extremely bad parenting to let kids be what they want to be. kids don't know enough about the world to make good choices and can't see longterm consequences of ideas or actions. its your job to put good ideas in their head and steer them away from bad ideas

[Lyndsielee666]

@007kingifrit then don’t raise your kids like that. Problem solved

[007kingifrit]

well nobody should

[DaveJord]

I don't get what there is to choose... its not like we are born like an unassembled Mr. Potato Head, and we can add and remove tge pieces all willy nilly.

Nope we come fully assembled... those "choices" are dictated to us by nature. The only choice we have is if we want to live in denial about facts, or a make believe fantasy world.

[CaptainSmartass]

@Lyndsielee666 You're the close minded one. You don't understand that other people have differing opinions to your own, much less respect them.

[Lyndsielee666]

@CaptainSmartass lmfao I told him not to raise his kids like that then but I’m close minded 🧐 sure thing bud

[Gal67]

I'm "closed-minded" for simply acknowledging certain biological realities am I? People can't magically transform themselves into the other gender any more than they can become frogs or whales. It isn't possible. Understand?

[DaveJord]

@Lyndsielee666 I am all about choices... but not at the expense of truth and fact. If were born with penis your a guy... now if you what to choose to act differently or pretend gender is only a concept and not real... then don't expect others to by into the fantasy or enable your own insecurities about you own gender.

Acting like its an opened decision that kids should make for themselves is not really being honest with them... when it is in blatant denial of fact and reality.

[JustinTheGreat]

@007kingifrit Many scientific studies has proven that being transgender is completely valid. There was a study from doctors that showed the brain of someone who is trans matches the gender they transitioned to over the gender they were born as.
Even if there was no scientific evidence to back it up, who honestly gives a fuck if someone chooses to live their life as another gender? It doesn't affect anyone else’s life but theirs. There are people killing themself cause they don’t have the freedom to live their life the way they want. If transitioning is what makes someone happy, if its what will keep a teenager from committing suicide than why should we deny them of that?
Peoples happiness is more important to me than what science says

[Lyndsielee666]

@JustinTheGreat god damn THANK YOU

[DaveJord]

@JustinTheGreat I agree with you honestly. Not sure about scientific studies though... need to site that.

But I really don't give fuck how they live their lives... up until the moment I am confronted by it am it makes me feel all weird, then they get offended or piont out I am not using the right pronouns. Then I get upset because I can't be complacent with thier denial and fanasty. I feel it only enables or justifies their insecurities and don't think that's healthy for them or society. Honestly I don't think that's good for society... when people can run around pretending they are what they aren't, and except everyone to buy into it.

So if you to raise your kids like that, fine. Just be honest and tell them most people won't respect it or accept it... be sure its weird and different.

But as long as I don't have to deal with it, first hand I say live and let live.

[Gal67]

@JustinTheGreat "... many scientific studies have proven..." - No, they have not. Science isn't about establishing proofs, and anyone who knows anything at all about the method will know this. The fact that you do not, and are trying to promote an idea, is all I need to know that you're wrong.

[Gal67]

@JustinTheGreat "There was a study from doctors that showed the brain of someone who is trans matches the gender they transitioned to over the gender they were born as."
Really? What "study"? Link to it.
"Even if there was no scientific evidence to back it up..."
So now you're admitting there's no evidence to support the idea. I agree :)

[007kingifrit]

@JustinTheGreat that just shows you aren't really up on your understanding of brain scans or neurology in general like i am.

we also have studies that show cab drivers have unique brain chemistry exclusive to cab drivers... are they born cab drivers? no.

does everyone with this brain chemistry have a gender identity issue? no.

so you didn't find what you think you found

[MrTaboo]

I'm not going to screw my kid up

[jahaims]

Nope

[MrSmithee]

rather they die

[Jmmmfi4]

Fuck no