Be honest: Should we Nationalize parenting?

[OddBeMe]

Could be a new industry where corporations hire good parents (like fosters but better) or be public so kid’s needs and growth come first.

Yes

Hell no

Eeesh, seems iffy, but I get your issue

[goaded]

What, like teachers? They don't take over the job from parents, but they have a hell of a lot more experience of children than any parent.

[OddBeMe]

Maybe they should.

[goaded]

Oh, look, the other two responses are about shooting people. Not suing, voting, or protesting, just shooting.

[OddBeMe]

Yeah thu fck is with rightists and shooting?

[goaded]

If your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

[OddBeMe]

You had Chinese tonight didn’t you?

[Juxtapose]

If you're coming to take away my kids and you don't give me the option of homeschooling? Then yeah, we're beyond talking and now we're fighting to the death.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose you fcks need to study argument ad absurdum. It’s a way to discuss topical issues light heartedly and not threaten our fckin lives. Asshole.

[Juxtapose]

If you don't try and kidnap any kids I happen to have then I don't see where the problem is? Are you planning on kidnapping my kids?

[Stoner710]

@Juxtapose not planning on murdering your kids go ahead and raise them

[Stoner710]

if you're*

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose obviously not. Just cheekily putting forth the fact that most parents suck ass at parenting.

[Juxtapose]

So do governments.

[Stoner710]

Are you nuts? Any government officials that comes in to tell me how to raise my kids is gonna get shot. Especially when it comes to the whole trans crap. The government would have a war on its hands if it did that.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose
Why is everything you guys hate always shot at?

[Stoner710]

That’s not the case government you have a point. We don’t hate deer we love them and we love meat so we shoot them and that there spirt and the great spirt form sacrificing there lives so we can eat. We talk the life so we can live we don’t hate them

[Juxtapose]

Because if you hate something then you want it to die.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose I don’t. Is that the difference between liberal and conservative?

[Juxtapose]

I am a liberal 😅

[Stoner710]

@Juxtapose just because we hate something we don't always want it to die. it's totally American to hate and distrust government overreach. remember we broke off from england because we didn't want people 3,544 miles away telling us how we should do our taxes.

thats small compared to the government coming in as the government coming in and telling us how to raise our kids.

imagine if the government and told you that you have to raise your kids catholic you would shoot them as well

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose no you’re not. But that’s my opinion. Labels are self placed.

[Juxtapose]

"Classical liberalism is a political tradition and a branch of liberalism that advocates free market and laissez-faire economics; civil liberties under the rule of law with special emphasis on individual autonomy, limited government, economic freedom, political freedom and freedom of speech."

Go ahead and tell me how I don't fit in that Odd.

[Juxtapose]

@Stoner710 in that case I would not hate england. Hate is a very serious emotion that is very different from just strongly disliking something.

[Stoner710]

@Juxtapose then you strongly dislike republicans. @OddBeMe is a democratic I would never kill him, we disagree on many things I don’t want to see him die, I would hold him in my arms and ask the gods to spare his life. We disagree politically do I want him to die because of that disagreement FUCK NO. We can have debates and disagree but he would never kill me and I would never kill him.

Am I soldier by heart I defend any one of you and die so you can speak your beliefs seems like a noble cost me

[OddBeMe]

Ahhh, Stoney, my bro!

But I get the passion. Juxt is also my bro.

[goaded]

@Juxtapose "Go ahead and tell me how I don't fit in that"

Well, you want government to stop people doing things that you disagree with.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded.. yeah, like murder.

And the rest of you are right on speaking freely. I love this patriotic support of free speech going on right now 👍

[goaded]

@Juxtapose Funny. Everyone agrees about murder. I was talking about all the things where the majority of people disagree with you, like abortion.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded I am pro choice if the thing is killed before it develops a brain stem lol.

[Stoner710]

@Juxtapose so your in favor of murdering babies. life begins as soon as sperm meets egg

[Juxtapose]

Without a brainstem there is no consciousness and thus no thinking or feeling life.

[Stoner710]

@Juxtapose so you're saying you can murder a baby before 7 weeks in the womb? that's fucked up that's called baby murder

[Juxtapose]

It's a hunk of cells that feels and thinks of nothing and never has. That's not a human being anymore than my sperm cells are.

[Stoner710]

@Juxtapose no it’s not a clump of sell what you’re saying is incoherent a clump of cells is the sperm itself or unfertilized egg. Hence why masturbation isn’t murder and hence why when a woman gets her period that’s not murder once sperm meets egg that’s when it becomes murder.

[Juxtapose]

But all of a sudden when the egg gets fertilized there is some magical human life there even though there is no cognition or feeling? That doesn't make any sense.

[Juxtapose]

My sperm cells are on feeling, the same with a newly fertilized egg.

[Juxtapose]

*unfeeling

[Stoner710]

@Juxtapose not magically a human life, naturally a human life. You’re a clump of cells now by your own logic. Every part of your body is a cell that makes you a Clump of sells do I have a right to kill you? NO! Does your mom have the right to kill you now? NO! You now are no different then you were when your fathers sperm met egg inside your mother your mother doesn’t have a right to kill you now just like your mother does not have the right to kill you before you were born. Why should 6 inches matter how long the birth canal is

[Juxtapose]

I value cognition, not cells. No brainstem = no life.

[Stoner710]

@Juxtapose is a jellyfish not alive?

[Juxtapose]

Not like us.

[Stoner710]

@Juxtapose you just said that brainstem=life by your own logic jellyfish aren’t alive

[Juxtapose]

Jfc this is a stupid semantics game and I'm not taking part of it. You know what I mean by saying how humans are alive versus how something like bacteria is alive.

You're not going to win this argument through bullshit semantics.

[Juxtapose]

Your sperm cells are alive and I'm sure you kill plenty of them.

[Stoner710]

@Juxtapose ah so sperm cells are alive so once it fertilizes the egg, it ceases to be alive. Or is it just growing into a new life? You’re the one who is talking about killing babies in the womb. I’m saying that alive it’s a baby wait 9 month and a human pops out. You’re not going to convince me that that’s not murder. You are trying to convince yourself that it’s not murder that’s why you say when the brain develops which is 7 weeks by the way why not skip those seven weeks and just say it’s alive when sperm meets egg

[Juxtapose]

Because the only part of life I ever give a shit about is cognition. If you could not feel or think anything, you would not be alive to me! What's the point in caring about something that's not alive?

[Stoner710]

@Juxtapose so a quadriplegic is not a alive? they can’t feel anything I could stab them in the shoulder and they won’t feel the knife in there shoulder. Abortion is murder whether you like it or not.

[Juxtapose]

They can think right?

[Juxtapose]

If I have kids and anyone is coming to take them away to indoctrinate them then they are getting shot.

[msc545]

no, but perhaps make parenting classes mandatory in secondary school.