Men who wants a family: are you okay if a potential isn’t sure they want kids or she absolutely does want kids?

[bobalife]

[SAMI_DABBAB]

I totally understand, I would go a step further and say she can almost ultimately have the final say since she’s the one who’ll be carrying the babies

[bobalife]

Aw that’s very sweet 🥺🥹 I appreciate hearing this because not often people realize how it is still a woman’s body and autonomy as well. But a man who makes sure her opinion and feelings matter to be considerate means a lot…

[SAMI_DABBAB]

I think when people are put in a real life situation they’ll realise this is the right thing to do, people usually approach these questions without considering what it’ll actually be like

[bobalife]

I 100% agree with you! :) I also don’t think people realize what does it really mean to be a parent or not be a parent at times. I think there’s a lot to consider on both ends.

[MidnightRivers]

Yes for sure, I'd even be happy dating a woman who already ahs kids

[bobalife]

That’s very kind of you! I don’t often hear many men being open to this🥹

[MidnightRivers]

Kids with no fathers need good men in their lives too!

[MidnightRivers]

Thanks for MH;)

[bobalife]

Your welcome! It’s very true what you said, sadly… many kids need positive parenting role models and guidance in their lives. You sound like you’ll be a great father someday :)

[MidnightRivers]

I would love to be, and be able to set them up for the future, teach some valuable skills

[bobalife]

Aw that's amazing :)

[ohsheeT]

There are a lot of women who are thinking so far ahead it blows me away

They can see exactly where we are all headed as a planet and all the things just waiting to go wrong and they don't want to bring a child into the world because it's going to be hard enough taking care of themselves if something happens let alone a child

I can say this I have two kids and they absolutely changed my life for the better and anybody that wants to have kids I think they should absolutely have them but I also think as a couple it needs to be talked about and there needs to be a plan because you can't tell somebody no you cannot have kids like I said it's the most beautiful thing that you can ever have and grow with they end up teaching you more than you teach them

And that is because your children listen to your words but also your eyes your tone of voice your body language and they don't really get the message they just watch your actions and that's who they become


Now as far as them teaching you you listen to every word every word and that's how they teach you but it's quite opposite

So what do you say do you want kids or not or maybe

[msc545]

Yes, you're right. Women are thinking very far ahead about how much money you're likely to make and how much of it they can take.

[ohsheeT]

Yes im sure that happens and some times when they are real and they want the same things as you they only get what is needed for both and dont really do anything for themselves and that's what makes Valentine's Day and birthdays and Christmas and just any random day a beautiful day when you can say thank you to them and get them something that they would actually really want or need to say thank you it just depends on a lot of things

[CalmUntilAbused]

I not sure if I understand the question, but I definitely want kids myself and even though calling it rape would be an overstatement if it was within marriage, I'd feel bad about forcing a woman to have kids. So... Yeah, I think that Her not wanting kids would be a dealbreaker. We could stay friends, but we would not get married. Oh, and for all the MGTOW and even Red Pill guys out there who will run in to protect me from the divorce rape, I would only have the purely Catholic marriage, which does not incur any legal obligations on either party, so there would be no way for the woman to divorce rape me.

[msc545]

There is no such thing as a purely Catholic marriage even though you think there is and it won't protect you from divorce rate which comes out to your money. Don't kid yourself. If you continue to do this, it's going to cost you a lot of money.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@msc545 Note to myself - never go to California. In Poland, we do get this option. Of course, we have to consult it with our bishop and give a reason for that... But I will have no issue doing that!

[msc545]

Okay well it sounds like you get a much better deal in Poland than we do here in California which is not difficult to do considering how bad a deal you would get here. That being said, if you happen to get married and you still want to come here it would be nice because we have a beautiful state and nice people. Just don't get married here. Also. Don't get divorced here.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@msc545 Looks like it's hell to be a man in California... But maybe, once some freedom of speech returns to the USA in general and to California in particular, I might visit the USA (including California) as a tourist.

[msc545]

No we have freedom of speech here that isn't the issue. The issue is that the family law courts are so biased in favor of women that you can't really get divorced here and expect to keep your money, or at least not very much in it. That has nothing to do with freedom of speech and we still have lots of that. I'm not complaining about that and I would be if it were the case.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@msc545 I mean, maybe it's just my bias ever since the Hasan anti-ICE riots in California, but I kind of expected those unhinged BlueSky freaks making hitlists of VTubers to reside in California:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B2TMoQkazlc

Now, next to me, most of those VTubers are center-left. So... I might want to avoid blue states for the time being...

[msc545]

Okay. Well in a way you have a point. Not much to be done about those folks.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@msc545 Well... Technically one could do a pretti good job dealing with them, but it would get denounced as inhumane (and this denunciation would be partially based on facts). I'd say we could meet up in some safer state, like Texas... But red states are not exactly safe for me, either, given my takes on Palestine. We might have to find some neutral ground, like Mexico, or maybe even better, though further away, Japan.

[loveslongnails]

Here's how to read her when it comes to kids-- If she says:

I Want kids? ------------ Yes, want them now but expect to have periodic regrets over it
I don't want kids ----- Don't want them now but expect to have periodic regrets over it
Unsure about kids ------ If you can guarantee they'll be good kids, and I'll get lots of support from family, and I won't have to change my lifestyle too much, and oh yeah, and I only want girls
Get's her tubes tied ---- Definitely does not want kids, won't regret it, and may be a really
and/or asks you to great aunt to her sister's kids so long as she doesn't have to
get snipped after babysit too often
you're married

[Berethor]

If she a young virgin it okay if she not sure, but otherwise I am not going to tolerate that.

[Grond21]

No, her wanting kids was a must have before I married her. Being of different minds on this issue can break relationships

[TonyMetal___86]

At this point idc, because i'm divorced and i have a son whom i raised by mysef, so kids aren't my priority anymore, i'm only looking for real love and a woman as a wife to be a life companion...

[ABitShattered]

Having kids is a really important relationship detail that needs to be discussed. Huge commitment and wonderful but you need to be on roughly the same page about them

[jahaims]

You should know your wants, needs, values and morals prior to entering a relationship

[LC75LC71]

Well that is indeed an aspect of the dating process.

[AgentG111]

If a man wants a family then he'll find a woman who will give him a family.

[msc545]

Looking too great! Until the time when the child support sajards and then you find out that each child is a net profit for the woman and then that loss for the man

[DJB72]

I have a son. She'd better be sure!

[GrammariklyIncorrekt]

Absolutely does want kids

[Mike_Hum]

You must want kids if I want kids.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Deal breaker