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Not all of us are that judgy. I’m 5’3, and the guy I like is around 5’4. But this guy is always considered really “short” when really he’s taller than me!
Some have a personal preference, I don’t care as long as he’s not way shorter than me. I once had a difficult type of crush on a guy who was short haha so who knows what could happen. Find a short girl and you’ll probably be ok lol
If the short guy is stocky and muscular...I love it. Plus tall men aren't attracted to me..so...get it short guy. It's about confidence
I'm not stocky though with my body type it's easy to get ripped. I've done it before and they missing out on you.
i just want to be with someone taller than me... i think when the girl is taller than the guy it looks really weird and i dont like that. as long as i can wear heels and at least be the same height as the guy, im fine. other than that, no deal.
so for me i just dont like the way it looks
I like short guys, but typically no shorter than 5'6"-5'7"... me being 5'9". It's not about protection or anything, it's about being able to look the guy in the eyes while going easy on my spine. Nothing more.
Going easy on your spine? o_O huh? Well I don't like girls taller than 5'4 how's that sound (I like girls of all heights I'm making a point)? And your white too. Don't like white people (I like girls of all races again making a point).
I just wanna be able to kiss a guy without having to bend over too much or to crouch.
I don't see how are you making a point here. I'm just being pragmatic about the height issue... BUT if a guy came along and he was charming, witty and had handsome facial features, I wouldn't even mind if he was 5'2". That's why I said "typically" - most guys I've liked have been 5'7", give or take an inch. You're just easily offended, I guess.
Why? A tall guy would have to do the same thing if he were to kiss you. Have you ever considered his struggles? LOL!! Nah I'm not easily offended. I'm a quiet nice calm guy. When I sit and watch the world burn nobody says anything but when I say the world is burning everyone goes crazy. I'm not a mean or easily offended person. So if I DO point out something it must be a serious problem.
You say typically you like tall guys but your willing to try a short guy right? That's a preference. That's ok. I'm not complaining about that.
No, I typically like short-to-average guys. I haven't found myself liking a single guy over 6'. But the perfect height for me is 5'7"-5'10".
Well I'm below that. Perfect height for me would be any.
I'm taller on average for a girl. So it just looks weird if I'm with a guy who's super short. And I'm attracted to manliness... which encompasses height. Sorry.
LOL!!! My masculinity doesn't but thank you for your opinion.
How tall are you
Although the short to tall paring is cute, as long as the guy is my height or taller would be just fine
How tall are you?
I'm 5'3 :)
that is cute
My height or what I said? Haha
We'd be around the same height. Give or take a inch or two.
Aww! Nice :)
i would be about 4 or 5 inches taller than you btw. and i was talking about your height
yeah i always felt my height isn't a bad height either lol
It's a happy medium height.
I am 5'2 and I prefer taller guys since they make me feel more feminine and I can wear all sorts of shoes without thinking that I might be taller than him.
Yet females say they care more about the personality of a guy? LOL!! Liars.
I said prefer, it doesn't necessarily mean that I would choose a taller guy with bad personality over a short guy with great personality.
and they have the nerve to say men are the more superficial and shallow than women lol
I didn't say that, we all have preferences and are attracted to different things. I prefer a taller guy because that's what I am attracted to.
@Dzindzer As long as you'd give a short guy a chance I guess :/.
@ocicatlover right.
I definitely would they might have more to offer. :)
hey i understand why you prefer taller guys than you, what i dont get is the women who want guys that are a foot taller than them or more.
wait the fuck up. are you guys (asker and ocicatlover) telling me you would date a girl who's 6'2 and weighs 240 lbs? probably not. not even if she had the perfect personality.
so don't even get mad at us.
nooriginality , we are talking about height alone. and i have gone out with women who weighed a lot more than me and were only about 2 inches shorter than me
@nooriginality I wouldn't date a girl who is 240 ibs but she can always lose weight. I'd latch on to a 6'2 girl. I've seen some hot females who are that height.
i would go out with a 6 foot talk woman too
I know where she's coming from. As a guy I find it really attractive when a girl is only 5'2". It sucks you may not experience being a lot taller than a girl, but there is some kind of dominant feeling to it which can be a turn on.
Exactly! :)
Cause I'm not attracted to short people. It's a preference. Nothing wrong or shallow about that. The only people who would call a preference shallow is someone who doesn't match up to that preference. In other words he's insecure about himself
I don't consider it a preference but even if it was that doesn't make it right. There are some who only date people of a particular race that makes them racist to me but others say it's a preference. It's shallow and close minded of course some who is close minded wouldn't see it that way. You don't match up to my preference are you insecure about yourself?
*someone
Why should you have to settle for a girl that's shorter than you?
Why you should a girl have to settle for a guy that's shorter than her?
(Ignore the "you" in the second question)
She should be ok with a tall guy and a short guy. Just like I'm ok being with a tall girl or a short girl.
So essentially what you're saying is that nobody is allowed to have preferences, because your personal taste settles everything.
Cool.
Being short and saying you're okay with someone tall or short just isn't the same as someone tall saying they're okay with tall or short.
One is generally the more desirable trait.
I'm assuming that you're addressing QA and not me, right?
I don't have any preferences. Or if I do it doesn't have to do with height.
I'm a pretty open minded person, I doubt being 6 foot would change that mindset.
@rthomas43
Yes, of course. Just because he doesn't care about heigh doesn't mean everyone else should adhere to his preferences.
Different people like different things. I don't think it's alright to bully people into liking something they're not into.
I'm personally ok with short guys and have mostly dated short men, because I'm 5'7 myself. But it's definitely not mine or anyone's place to tell people who they ought to be attracted to.
You say your mindset wouldn't change, but I guarantee it would.
Instead of short and tall, imagine this scenario as skinny and fat. Right now you're the fat guy asking why skinny, in shape girls won't go for bigger fellas.
@rthomas43
Nah because I can get in shape. I'm a skinny guy but I've been ripped before. I can't change my height though. Your argument is invalid.
It's not invalid because, and here's the kicker, people don't give a damn if it's something you can change or not.
Tall is a far more desirable trait than being short is. So you can't expect tall girls to be open minded about settling for someone short.
People aren't open minded. It's unfortunate.
Oddly enough, you're the close minded one here. You expect women to settle because you think you deserve an upgrade.
What do you mean by that? What makes you think I'm settling? What if I do have a tall or average height girl? I realize that most don't like short guys and that's what I'm debating. I never said I was looking for a upgrade.
Taller is more desirable. Plain and simple. You're okay with tall and short girls because you have the inferior trait. You can't honestly expect it to work in both directions.
I'm thought of superior in other ways yet I'd take a girl who's thought of as inferior in other ways. I've got a good example of that but I don't want this to turn into a different kind of debate. So for sake of argument here's a different example
I'm big somewhere else yet girls say size doesn't matter. The media says it does. Society says it does but most females don't care.
The truth is that it's a subconscious thought process that could be changed. The realest people are people who follow their own path and not social norms.
You have good things about you I'm sure, but if said good qualities are also possessed by a tall guy, he's going to have the edge over you. It sucks, but it's the truth.
If only I was as shallow.
That's the thing. The less desirable you are to the opposite sex, the less shallow and picky you can be.
Or choose to be but I mean I feel you though. I get what your saying. I feel my height is a blessing in disguise. Maybe I wouldn't want a girl who's real skinny or a girl who's taller than me if I was tall.
I can weave out the weeds from the grass.
Bottom line, we have to play the cards we're dealt.
And some people given a royal flush to start the game, where as others are given trash cards. Make it work.
You right bruh. Thanks.
I'm small. Only 162 cm. However I prefer taller guys, 180 cm +. Perfectly he can be 185-190 cm. Why? Not because of their looks. I like big hands, I like wide chest, when a tall guy hugs you you feel protected and secure. Just psychological thing for me. Anyway I dated smaller guy. I believe the smallest was 170 or so. But I didn't feel comfortable cuddling with him.
I'm also curvy. I got wide shoulders, thin waist, but wide hips, I need a big guy to feel myself fragile.
Same reasoning. False security and protected. You could have saved yourself from writing all that.
*protection.
You seem to be very agressive. I'm chubby, but I don't get mad when the most of guys claim they prefer slimmer girls.
You asked POV, here it is. This is not false. This is years of evolution and history. We are still human being. There are a lot of petit girls who will prefer smaller guy. But no, none of my taller girlfriends prefer smaller guys, coz they also want to feel femine, which is harder to do when you're 180.
It is a false issue because protection is based on strength, speed, courage, etc. Not height. Also, we are not animals. If we are then why should a guy go to jail if he rapes a girl? I mean sex is natural right? I don't believe in Darwin's bullshit. He's the same guy who thought finches evolve. Species don't change into other species. If evolution is true then that's backwards. In today's day and age it shouldn't be a factor. You're not attacked by wild lions are you? The fuck do you need protection from? Why not hire security?
I think the problem here is grown women want to feel like little girls.
Also, you say none of your taller GFs prefer smaller guys this must be a rare occurrence because tall chicks typically are attracted to the same height difference short girls are. Girls taller than me have wanted me just as much or more than short girls percentage wise.
Some women love to embrace their height. They feel female empowerment by being tall and their guy reminding them
that they are tall by the guy being short. It's clear insecurity on display here LOL. Clearly your tall GFs are insecure about their height. They HAVE to feel short in order for them to feel feminine. How you can't see that as shallow is beyond me.
You literally just said why do you have to "settle" for a girl that's shorter than you.
I'm not trying to be pedantic, but your use of the word "settle", is interesting.
That sentence was a form of writing. I meant to say no short guy should have to only be able to get girls that are short. I say this in my other comments. Yeah some people on here are being pedantic, but it is my first question I every asked. I didn't know I had to be so specific. I like girls that are short, medium height, and tall. Can you say the same about guys?
In terms of romantic/sexual partners.
Fair enough.
I'll be honest, I'm verging on 5'9. I prefer that my partner is taller than me. I obviously subscribe to the notion that a man should be physically bigger than me, including height.
If I'm extremely honest, it probably comes down to my insecurities about being a tall woman and having a shorter partner only highlights that. In all, it's superficial and it's due to me worrying about being judged by people outside of my relationship. Which is silly, but it would still affect me negatively.
I'll do better next time at stating questions, especially questions like this because people get real picky about these types.
I think that could be said for a lot of girls. They even said taller guys make them feel "secure". If only girls cared more about horizontal height than vertical height. 😣
Lol, horizontal height?
You know now that I thought about it that's incorrect to say. I guess I should say horizontal length. Just one in particular though.
It's nice to be able to wear heels around your man without towering over him, lol. I've met more short guys than I've met short girls to be completely honest with you.
What's wrong with towering over him? Your still the "fragile" "innocent" female so to speak and he's still the "masculine" male.
a lot of guys always seem uncomfortable with it
I don't. I'm still the guy in my opinion and she's still the girl.
then i guess thats you. I'm two inches shorter than my bf and i can't wear heels around him so we don't party together
If a guy feels his masculinity is determined by height then that's on him. My masculinity is more than that.
My friend Cinya is dating my friend James who is almost 2 feet shorter than him. Don't feel ashamed for your height. Some girls think short boys are cute.
shorter than **her** my bad
I am cute. I look in the mirror and say "who's that good looking guy." LOL!! Smh. Nah but your right.
Exactly, so go after what you want. James did and he got a lovely girl. You can get your perfect girl. Good luck on the search
Maybe it's because of this social ideal that a guy should be taller and bigger than his girlfriend.
Although I have met a few girls who wouldn't mind dating a guy shorter than them.
You would mind wouldn't you?
Well I guess I'd rather have a guy that's taller than me...but I'll try anything once. If I really like a guy that's shorter than me than I'd see where it went.
For me it just makes me feel like...idk manlier? (when it comes down to it, its really dumb but like im pretty sure many girls can agree with me)
Smh.
I mean this is just be personally. For me it makes me feel self conscious and I start to notice things that might make me feel manlier...idk its hard to explain
I can't even argue anymore. Short guys are going to have to just take their bat and play with others.
And this goes for guys too..
o.O what do you mean?
That some guys will look towards physical appearance...But I thought about this and I am admitting that it is wrong of me to look at these things rather than what kind of person he is..When it comes down to it, at first I might think it is awkward that he is shorter but I would be able to get over things like that...when I think about it, if that person can't get over the fact that you are shorter then its their loss. Just find someone who can accept all of you :)
Yeah...the girls who nip pick on height are fake to me.
Asker you cannot force them to change their preferences.This is the reality of the world. World is materialistic. To gain something you have to fight plus u must have luck factor. You must look for the girl who is shorter than you after all girls look for men who are at least 2 inches taller than them. I am not generalising but dude feelings doesn't have to work with women everytime.
I observed white girls are generally tall but there are many who are at your given height.
Well like I was telling the other guys I don't know exactly how tall I am but most girls are either a little shorter than me, the same height, or a little bit taller. I mean it's give or take 2 or 3 inches. Most don't see it as a problem. I don't know if it's because I look good to them. I'm not gay but I think I look good. But society says that taller men are better. And I don't like that.
You black?
No i am not black. I am south asian.
Oh. Well then you gotta deal with the "Asian guys are small in another way" stereotype. But you know some girls don't care about that either. You just gotta pick out the right ones.
Hmmm...right...but i think we don't care. As long as our women are loving and marrying us..i don't want to think what white women think of us. Also i live in india so actually i don't worry..
Also many girls don't care of dick size...as long as it is average. I am 5.4 inches which is quite enuf at Indian women's point of view...Also indian women ( at least in india) don't care that much on dick like western women might do.
And man don't worry...you will get your women man! I think , presently you have crush on tall woman. Are you white?
I don't have to worry about horizontal size just vertical but even then I'm usually at least the same height as most girls so idk. It was a general question but people kept trying to apply it to me.
Indian girls are sexy. I have a crush on all types of girls. My most picky preference is red head white girls with freckles.
I'm black.
Girls are very hypocritical when it comes to height. They are very vocal about preferring tall guys, but as a tall guy I get so much hate from short girls if I'm honest about their height being unattractive to me.
You don't like short girls? I find short, average, and tall girls attractive. Maybe I just love females so much that I can find beauty in any height.
When a girl is much shorter we look like a father and a daughter... kissing, dancing etc. is weird. I also have a thing for long legs. But having said that, height isn't high on my priority list.
I don't know man...I guess people don't think like I do. I must be "different". I mean I like long legs too. I guess I just don't care idk.
The same reason that guys like C cups over A cups, even though women often just buy formula to feed their babies.
I like small boobs and big boobs, and medium.
dont lie to your self. if you don't have preferences you don't have standards (toasker)
@nooriginality I do like any kind of boobs. I swear I do. Just so long she doesn't have a inverted nipple or something. LOL!!!
Then you're the exception, QA. Most men prefer larger breasts over small breasts. Just as most women prefer taller men over shorter men.
I prefer both small and large and medium. I give no fucks about tit size.
Dude, point stands, and you know perfectly well why girls don't like short guys.
Point doesn't stand and why?
"Even though I said all that I know I'll probably get stupid comments about nature and genetics. BS."
You already know why girls don't want short guys.
And btw, being extra aggressive and such will just make people shake their heads and go, "lil'man syndrome."
Oh, and fun fact, no one "gets all the options" except rich, good looking guys. For everyone, it's a Ven diagram of what we want intersecting with what we can get.
The last part of that sentence. "BS". Because that's what it is. In other words people let nature define who they are. I make my own decisions. Outside the common sheeple world of society.
"Lil man syndrome" LOL!! You don't even know the meaning of that word. Or do people mean it in different ways? I'm not little by no means and I'm not aggressive unless I want to be. How you know I'm aggressive in person? You don't know that.
I look good, I'm broke though. I have had girls of all different types at least say I look good. Still don't mean they'd date me but they at least find me attractive so yeah.
Oh, of course, forgive me. We're all sheeple who let biology dictate what turns us on, you're breaking the mold. Or you simply can't afford to have standards or preferences. You wanted to know why girls don't like short guys. Well, thanks to this board and internet, you know. but hey, you can pat yourself on the back, "They're all shallow sheeple who let biology decide what turns them on." lmfao.
Most girls I've ever talked to at least thought I was cute. Some 6'0 or taller. Carry on with being tall and stupid though.
I was speaking about society in general. Luckily I'm attractive so they usually look past height but I'm a rare exception to the common rule.
Plus I'm not THAT short. I'm at least a inch taller than most girls I see.
Hey, don't get upset at me little fella, I didn't make you short.
I'm not upset. o.O
LOL!! "Little fella". I'm a big guy.
I don't think all girls don't like short guys. I prefer tall yet my guy is not tall ;) much more goes into a girls thought process when finding a partner they are attracted too.
mhm!!! same here. my ex was 5 inches shorter then me hehe
It just appears more masculine and makes us feel more feminine
Are you trying to say I'm not masculine? :(
A short guy can be masculine too, of course. Just in general, if you compare a short guy to a tall guy--the taller guy will appear more so than the shorter one.
Let me ask you this, how can I change my height?
You can't :(
So why judge me by it? I like girls of all shapes and sizes and they can change that by working out...or eating. Smh.
I think most girls can't help it. The same way guys look at fat girls and judge them, it's the same...just that height is something that can't be altered. Some girls don't mind it, though.
Thanks for your input.
I wasn't aware that we girl didn't like short guys 😳
Some see the height of a guy and immediately cross him out. I've never had a problem with it but I am around most girls height so I guess they don't care? o.O
There's a lot of girls out there. How you're around all of them is beyond me! ;)
This is true. In fact y'all outnumber us guys by a large margin. I guess because we are too busy screwing stuff up and fighting each other. LOL!! XD
Honestly I don't want to be taller than him with heels on and I want to have my head to his chest not my head resting on his head
What about when laying down?
Oh the head on his chest, best feeling ever.
@Dzindzer height doesn't matter for that if the two are laying down.
I've seen a lot of girls dating guys who are shorter than them so I think it's just online where height is a major issue
Yeah I think so too.
Hahaha this is actually true x)
If they are fit and have a nice face height really doesn't matter to me. Of course I'm short, so you'd have to settle for a girl like me that wouldn't judge a guy like you. Sad :(
:/ I should not have put "settle" in there. I didn't mean it like you guys are implying. I meant why can't short guys be accepted by tall girls too. I got love for short girls as well. I'm not a discriminating loser like other people. Turn that frown upside down :).
:) oh okay!
I can wear heels as high as I want.
Not really sure why, but I feel feminine when stood by a tall guy.
Why do wear high heels? So you can feel tall? You can still wear them. People always wanna talk genetics do you have a cat? Then your a female. Your automatically feminine to me. Even lesbian studs to me are still females.
Cause they make your legs look longer and your walk becomes hotter. And you have no idea how much guys complain if their gf is taller in heels hah :') and I'm allergic to cats so.. and nope, its about how a woman feels, not if a man considers her to be femmine. Don't take it personally if a woman dislikes her man being shorter than her.
Makes your legs look longer? Why would you want longer legs? To feel taller? It's not hot when you break a ankle. LOL!!! I love girls of all height. I don't discriminate like most girls do. Are you Asian? Girls saying they don't like tall guys is like me saying I don't like Asian girls. See what I mean? LOL!! On the cat thing. I take it personal because it's discrimination but w/e I just look for the girls who don't care about height. Your pretty.
Your questions are trivial! I can't answer them all because I don't know the answers haha people just like what they like! :'D And I could never date an Indian man, I don't know why, I just couldn't. That isn't discrimination, or racism, its just people are weird like that. And Im sure there are plenty! :) usually, if you click, height doesn't matter as much.
:( You'd never date a Indian? I'm not Indian but now that's racism...or nationalism. See that hurts...like that's worst than the height thing. I don't think like 99% of people apparently. That hit a soft spot because like I said now your talking about race and or Nationalism. Did you know Hitler was a Nationalist?
I can't believe you are comparing me to Hitler because I have never found an Indian man attractive. Obviously that isn't excluding and discriminating every single person! Just I have a personal preference for what makes me all hot and bothered. I've heard plenty of men saying that they only like really pale girls, or blonde girls. You clearly don't understand about the psychology of a sexual "fetish" almost..
Yeah yeah yeah.
Betwyn
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I can't tell you why girls taller then you don't want you...
But, I can tell you why I don't want guys shorter then me...
I'm not into little kids or midgets.
This is why girl thinks that any guy shorter than her is a midget
"Oh your here with your little brother?" "No he's my boyfriend"
That's messed up but I'm not going to lie that was funny.
Ouch lol
Height always makes a woman feel safer. If the guy is shorter, she'll feel like she has no protection. But who knows, I've met many girls who are totally into shorter guys
Yeah I have too.
I always ask... Protection from WHAT?
Because I want to be hugged by the huge arms <3<3<3
Short guys can have big arms.
Possible. But I want to feel small around him. In every scale. This is why height matters.
I don't know.. Just a feeling that makes me feel little girl and he is my big guy.
The way I feel around a specific preference doesn't necessarily hinder me from wanting a girl that doesn't have specific preference. Is that strange?
Listen to me. Nobody can decide your preferences. You decide. If you want the girl. Go and get it. That confidence makes you higher than a mountain.
All I gotta say is Napoleon Syndrome. Tall guys are usually pretty relaxed too. Women like a guy they can rely on. Guys who whine about height preferences are usually the shorties. I don't care too much though I can't hear them from 6'5 ;)
Napoleon was the average height for a male back then, which was 5'7...or 5'6. I can't remember.
I'm relaxed. I'm actually a quiet cool person. I'm not bitch though. If someone where to beat to the bone my skeleton would have it's fists up.
I know it's unfair to Napoleon, not like he can complain though.
That's the thing about stereotypes, they might not be true every time, it seems like it though to people ( women ) that's why they prefer tall men.
Yeah it's a society stereotype and a form of discrimination. It is what is is. The girls who don't care are going to get and the rest can fuck themselves I guess.
*get it
Yeah we can talk about this forever but being strong and tall in fact is a selective advantage. You sound a bit like you got some complex too, that's def not attractive to ladies.
My complex nature has always been attractive to girls.
That's why women hate shorties they whine about all the time and have all kinde of psychological issues. It also looks ridiculously funny. Short arms, small torso, short feet. Like an aged kid haha
I said my complex nature has always attracted girls. Some girls try to "figure guys out". Some girls think my deviance is very attractive. This is my experiences so I don't know why you keep saying it ain't so. o.O I don't whine. I again (I really wish I could post a update but I can't) posted this question as my very first question. I can empathize with short guys and see the discrimination even though I haven't experienced it. It's like I told someone else some people see and hear that some Muslims are bad people even if they have never met a bad Muslim.
Some short guys try to be over aggressive yet I'm a quit guy so how does that add up? Exactly I'm not overly aggressive yet some girls still find me attractive (maybe the face or another reason like deviance). It's funny how tall guys sometimes think they are better when they look goofy as fuck with tree branches for arms. I don't have a small torso or small feet. LOL!! You think...
Height always means you have short arms, feet, and chest? That's dwarfism son. LOL!!! Not all short guys are dwarfs.
6'5" seems like so much a hassle, to find clothing, to enter doors...
Short guy talk :)
No it's biological facts. :) You should do some research on dwarfism.
Size does matter to women — when it comes to height. We’ve long known that women are more attracted to taller men, and a new study from the University of Utah explains that it’s actually evolutionary.
Why do guys like ass and tits? Because its signs of healthy reproduction. It's biological.
When did I say it didn't matter to women? That's the whole point of this question.
I posted that from a research article to show that its biological not cultural. Just because women no longer need protection doesn't mean that part shut off in their brain. They still feel safer with a taller guy.
Well said, biggie.
I can shut parts of my brain off apparently. Or maybe like other dude said since I'm short I'm not as shallow. Thanks for your input though guys. This is a big help.
Not mirin' well girls like tall guys its proven. Better genetics.
In my experience girls do NOT like tall guys or don't care. There's nothing "better" genetically about being taller.
It appears you think this way because your tall.
well girls do care and studies show it girls rate taller guys as being more attractive. You don't see too many girls with shorter guys then them. Equal hegiht but taller is preferred.
but studies have nothing to do with my own experiences. I stated typically girls prefer taller guys.
I stated typically girls prefer taller guys.
Yeah they do. So there's nothing to argue.
I stated in terms of me typically girls don't care and they don't. I wasn't arguing you just keep pointing out the point of this entire question.
Well height matters but personality takes over same with guys looking at girls boobs/butt matter but that's not gonna be the sole decision if the girls a bitch it doesn't matter how good her ass or tits are.
Height matters to most girls but personality and good looks can take over that. I agree. However, I also don't feel like I and other short guys should have to "push" or "increase" our personality onto a girl just to "impress" her or get her to like us. My personality wouldn't allow for that to begin with.
Nah but your right though. I'm not disagreeing with you.
I prefer guys that are between 5'5-5'10. But then again I'm only 5'2. You can find someone who will like you. And if they leave you because of your height then you deserve better. People shouldn't judge you based on height.
I prefer short-avarage height guys. Most woman don't but some do
that's wrong dude. ask @ihav2fart & @Red_Dragon who are kinda short for guys how succesful they are with girls XD XD
Until I get linkywinky I am not successful!
In a girls eyes being tall is attractive. Now my question is why don't guys date fat girls?
They do.
Not the majority of guys.
In most cases weight can be changed too though. Not only that but how many girls like fat guys?
Some girls do, some girls don't, but that's not my point, my point is that there are preferences that we have for us to like someone whether they fit with the majority of people or not.
Even if the reasoning is silly.
For example?
Also don't say preference because it seems most people on here don't really know what that means. It's like people say that to try to make it sound good when really what you're doing is excluding what you don't want. Not a preference. Regardless of that typically this "preference" is a good measure for shallowness.
Do some scrolling.
So you mean that preference refers to preferring something, but not excluding other possibilities that you don't prefer, ya you got a point but you have to know all humans have a level of shallowness. It's nature. So I don't see what's wrong with it.
"nature nature nature". It's nature for someone to want sex so I guess they should go rape someone? Don't blame nature. You have a consciousness. You can think for yourself. I can think for myself. Why else do we have morals? Animals don't typically have morals. For them it's more about nature and instinct. They don't have a consciousness like us. We are above nature so quit blaming it.
Do we all have some preferences? Yes. However, how shallow someone is various. Typically I find that girls who say they prefer tall guys are rather shallow and insecure.
Humans aren't perfect creatures so nature makes us act the way we do and it's unfortunate but some humans rape and everything without using our cautious. That's just the reality of it. And your right, we have varying degrees of shallowness. Remember, were not perfect. So girls that "prefer" tall guys (you mean girls that "exclude" short guys) is a shallow statement, but not all are insecure, what if they're not attracted to short guys. Remember, we can't help what we are or are not attracted to. So shallow doesn't equal bad.
Humans aren't perfect but we are far more advanced than animals who are solely influenced by nature. Humans are more influenced by society and culture. Society and culture while it relates to nature at times also presents a choice. It isn't engrained in our minds at birth. It's developed. Therefore it's really not as nature as you may think. Again we have a consciousness. Did you know a 3 year old baby is more neurologically advanced than most animals in general?
It is insecurity because they need to feel "short" instead of not just being comfortable with the height they are.
Also, remember we have a conscious and I don't believe the "we can't help what we are attracted to." To play devil's advocate then I guess that means there are shallow people out there and they aren't going to change it. In which case I again say that height is a good way to exclude closed minded individuals if we are going to exclude anyone.
Humans did built civilizations, societies, and cultures and our reasoning is what separates us from other creatures, but you see those are not controlled by nature, there are certain psychological functions that that can make nature kick in and temp humans to act in a barbaric animalike manner, like how men sleep with many girls, how people can kill one another, how we rape people for our satisfaction and the list goes on. However just because we are the most advanced species doesn't mean we are completely
free from natural animal instinct as we are basically classified as animals in the mammalian kingdom.
Some girls are insecure about height but some are not attracted to short men. That's not shallowness. And we really can't help what we are not attracted to. It's like saying I'm shallow because I think blue is an ugly unattractive color to paint my room with than green. Doesn't make sense.
I don't consider us as animals. While there are some relation I feel we are above animals. You and everyone else thinks so too. If not then why not put ourselves in cages? Why not put a collar on ourselves and get someone to walk us? Why destroy animal homes for our own homes? We are above animals. That said you make a good point.
No but what I'm saying is their insecurity about their height is why they aren't attracted to short guys. It's not insecurity like you may be thinking. A short guy gives the illusion they aren't short. They want to feel short. They aren't happy with being any height they have to feel short. That's insecurity.
Again like I said before how much it matters does play a role in how shallow someone is. You say they can't help but to play devil's advocate even if they can't it doesn't negate anything. It's still shallow. It's like saying since I've been so sick and couldn't go to school for a week (just an example) that it doesn't matter.
Weelll I still missed a week a class even though I can't help it.
So even if that's true it's not a excuse. Just like time was missed in class shallowness is still shallowness.
For someone as short as me (5'2) you're height is fine, but I do have a thing for guys at 6'0 and over. I think it's mainly a thing where girls find it as a masculine trait, that masculinity is somehow proven in their height which I think is utter bullshit. I mean yeah, tall guys are nice but if I met a great guy and he was 5'7 or something I wouldn't care,
It's believing a lie. Girls who believe lies I would have to think are great candidates for shallowness.
I agree, I think what they are believing is 100% false and they are just being shallow bitches.
Me and you gon hang out on the other side of the fence and watch their stupidity.
Uh well why are guys so deadset on big boobs?
It's just what they're naturally attracted to.
Implants? I'm not deadset on boobs and most guys look at the whole picture. What guy wants a girl with big boobs and a ugly body, face, and personality?
What girl wants a tall guy with an ugly body, face and personality?
Nothing. It's when height keeps it from going anywhere further that's the issue. Height isn't the only thing right?
*No girl I guess. It's when height keeps it from going anywhere further that's the issue. Height isn't the only thing right?
No girl will turn down an attractive guy that she has a connection with because he's short. Well yes some will I guess but they're superficial anyway. I'd find it hard to date a guy shorter than me (I'm only 5"2 tho) but there's serval tall girls at my school dating shorter guys. My best male friend is 5"4 and his ex gf was 5"7. It happens.
Im pretty sure that the height of a guy is what attracts most woman, tall menn.
Really?
ye i read that in a study that was what woman liked the most
Really pathetic but I believe it. If it's true then I don't want most women and every guy should feel the same. Who would want a girl who is mostly attracted to height?
Same reason probably most guys don't like overweight girls, or girls who act or look manly...
Overweight is susceptible to change. You can never change your height once it's reached it's peak growth. A girl being manly can look and act unmanly in most cases.
That's true but note that tall vs. short preference varies according to taste. Not all girls want someone super tall.
Not all girls want a tall guy period. Some just don't care. I guess I'm saying society says that women should want taller guys and convenience adds to what society wants women to find attractive. Attraction can always change too but many refuse to do so because of environment and conditioning.
I also think that people just getting to know each other often means all those shallow early preferences are thrown out the window. If we get to know someone as a friend and we fall for them, who care how tall, skinny, blah blah they are lol
Some don't have those shallow early preferences and the ones that do let that take over the rest because they don't care about the rest only the early shallow preferences. The rest of a guys qualities doesn't matter to them. If it did then they would way those other qualities to the height thing. The height thing is one quality that's over all the others.
*Instead of way I mean weigh.
Or why is it more acceptable for a smaller woman to date a big guy than a smaller guy to date a big woman and I am not talking about height.
When a skinnier guy dates a big woman then it seems like over all society thinks he is settling when he may in fact love big women like I do. I am with a BBW who is taller than me and I love her, care about her etc.
Right. Even if a girl is really big and even if I didn't like big girls I still view her full profile. LOL!! I don't just cut her off.
Yeah you get it. Society says you are settling even though you aren't. I'm saying why shouldn't you consider big girls? Just like why shouldn't all girls consider short guys? Or guys who are shorter than them I should say.
Cos they think tall is manly which couldn't be further from the truth
Right like masculinity is determined by height. My masculinity isn't determined by that. Maybe it's that way for other guys.
Women think it matters but it doesn't
watch this video my friend it will help you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWB_GYSs6toAight I will.
Because girls are devious, vicious, and cruel creatures that are even more judgmental than the men they claim are always judging them based on their looks. Next question.
Can't live with them can't live without them. I can't understand them but damn if I don't have to have them.
Because you're being a pussy. Stop obsessing over what people think about you and make sure every day is as happy as can be. That in itself is pretty damn attractive
Pussies are those who play into social norms and don't do what the fuck they want to do. I see the bullshit and point it out. Then do what I want.
Why aren't you successful then? I see plenty of ugly motherfuckers getting a lot of women. Looks are only a finite hindrance. They come second to confidence
Never said I was successful. Yeah confidence is number one. Which I meant height's not a huge problem for me but it is for other guys.
many women see height as a characteristic of masculinity and a desirable physical trait...basically, in many cases it's pure instinct
I like my men taller, but I'm 4'10.5 and my husband is just 5'6 so he is 'shorter' but he's the perfect height for me lol
So i guess I like short guys, but even guys at your height are taller then me lol
Yeah I mean you real short girls like most guys that are around my height. It's a small percentage of girls that are around my height that like most guys that are around my height and even smaller percentage of girls that are taller than my height who like most guys that are around my height.
You make a good point as your situation supports that you love a guy that society might would call short.
Because I have daddy issues and my dad is very tall :D
😪 Oh okay.
I think it's probably like why I wouldn't want a small dog.
Hey them Chihuahuas are rough. LOL!!!
Corgi is the best doge.
Check this out: www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdUmHKVdyU&feature=kp
Such a cute dog.
For the same reason guys prefer shorter, more feminine girls. Being tall and strong is masculine and girls are attracted to masculinity. It's genetics. Pretty simple.
That's it! You couldn't say better.
I prefer girls of all sizes.
@menina...no.
Asker: so you represent all men then?
It's a fact that men in general are less attracted to tall women. Are you disputing that?
I'm me and well them guys are discriminating too. They are in the wrong too. You shouldn't just want short girls. I'm not like that. I'm just pointing out one of societies problems that's all.
That's like saying gays are discriminating against straight people. Human attraction is not a choice. We are attracted to who we are attracted to.
Well I feel you can change your sexuality. You can't change height. Human attraction is a choice. Or maybe...I mean I'm a ambiguous person so maybe everyone else is just different than me. Maybe I'm the exception, because if there's anything I discriminate against as far as attraction it's more than likely going to be something that's changeable. I'm not saying girls HAVE to be with short guys I'm just saying they should be open to short guys like they are tall guys even if they prefer tall guys more.
I know where you're coming from but I just don't think human attraction is a choice. Everyone is different for sure, but we are who we are. I'm a straight guy and there is nothing I or anyone else could ever do to make me be attracted to other men. You could give me all the money in the world to make that "choice" but it could never change the fact that I am simply not attracted to men. Hope that makes sense. It's just my opinion of course.
I choose to be attractive to almost any type of girl. Do I have to be this way? No. I could say "well I only like short girls with blonde hair and blue eyes". What would females say? Oh he's a racist and discriminating. I have not always been this way because I chose not to be. Now I realize that it's stupid to discriminate so I choose to like multiple types of females. I don't let nature, stereotypes, or social norms define what I believe a attractive female is.
I still think sexuality is a choice. It may be that you were molested as a kid or maybe you explored some other guy as a kid or for some other reason but once your a adult you choose what path to take. It's free will right? I mean it's like saying "yeah I killed someone but I didn't choose to do that." Uh yeah you did. Sure there are people with psychological problems but who sees gays as having a psychological problem? I may but most people don't.
I'm black so black females would say "Oh he like them trashy white girls. Just like all black men. Ungrateful. They think all black women are ugly. Especially dark black girls." This is not the case. I love all types of girls of all colors. Why can't others be the same way?
Why discriminate on color, height, ethnic group? They can't change those and all the different varieties have their own appeal to them. I like beautiful white skinned girls, dark chocolate girls, girls who are tall that I can grab onto, girls who are short that I can pick up. Am I the only one who feels this way?
@Asker He is 100% right imo.
@menina You mean I'm right or the other guy?
Pretty sure she meant I'm right.
"Why discriminate on color, height, ethnic group?"
If you're going to ask that, you may as well ask why discriminate on gender? Why discriminate on species? Why discriminate at all? The answer, of course, is that human attraction is not really discrimination in the true sense. If it was then you could accuse every human being of discrimination. We all have our preferences and we don't choose what they are. Straight men don't choose to be attracted to women, gay men don't choose to be attracted to men, and women don't choose to be attracted to tall men. It all the same concept. Our brains are not that simple.
Well gender and species correlates with my religion so yeah. :/ I mean that's the truth.
Well why can't we limit discrimination as much as possible? Why have large amounts of discrimination? Why not shorten (no pun) to a minimal?
You saying because I have a specific preference and still would get with a girl of any type that I have a simple brain? O.o LOL!! I'm kidding.
I just read the answer that you awarded MH to and lost all respect for you.
Bitterness never helped anyone dude.
Good luck to you.
I was tired of waiting for better answers at the time. There are much better answers now but w/e.
Not bitter and thanks?
@Asker I mean the guy who answered this.
@Menina Human attraction has always been a choice. I choose to like tall girls. I choose to like short girls. I choose to like medium height girls. I don't have to. I choose to. It's like alcoholism.
Alcoholism is a disease. I physical biological problem. This is not fiction it's a fact. Alcoholism can be influenced by environment, conditioning, & genetics that are passed down. Now attraction is not a disease but it can and has been influenced by enviornment & conditioning maybe even genetics. However, this is still a choice. Just like alcoholism just because someone has a higher potential to drink doesn't mean they didn't choose to do it. Just because attraction is subconscious doesn't mean people don't choose to seek people that attraction nor does it say they HAVE to seek people of that attraction. When you factor end WHY such attraction is the way it is (such as society says such and such should attract you) then I don't see how...
...it can be justified and not considered wrong.
Human attraction is not a choice. What you're talking about is choosing to ignore or override preferences, which is a different things.
Attraction can always change and people can always choose to change. Or maybe they can't. Maybe some people can't change it, but apparently I and some others can. Society tells me what I should desire in a woman and I ignore THAT. I override THAT and make my own decision. I think it's deviance.
Maybe me and a few others are the only ones who can do that. If that's the case then we have common ground.
@Asker Attraction is not a choice. Either you're attracted to certain features or you're not. You simply can't choose it.
@ Anonymous I must say that you're 100% right again.
Thank you menina. I agree with you 100% as well. :)
@Menina I'm attracted to certain features at times and not at other times. Some others feel the same way. And for some reason at times I can choose.
And again I pointed out the reasoning for why some girls are only attracted to certain things. Even if what you claim is true that still doesn't make it right and it's still being a sheep to social norms.
@Anonymous Other girls and other guys don't agree with you two.
I don't care what other guys and girls say. A person cannot choose to be attracted to someone they are not attracted to. THINK about it.
Most girls if they grew up in a different environment and were conditioned differently they would be attracted to different stuff therefore it is a choice because despite the circumstances they still choose to give into what's around them and claim they can't choose. You have free will.
I guess there are those who choose the subconscious and those who are conscious enough to make their own decisions on what attracts them and not what was subconsciously bred into them. I find a lot of people can't break from their subconsciousness.
One day I'm not attracted to tall girls and the next I am. It all depends. What do you mean I can't choose? I can choose because I'm not someone who cares about social norms. Some girls and guys want to be "normal" what attracts them is part of that want to "fit in" even if it's subconsciously (which again has these social norms bred into it).
Maybe I can't think about it. I mean I'm trying I really am. I'm not just trying to argue with you I'm trying to understand and the above paragraph is my understanding of it.
Would you be able to choose to be gay?
@Anonymous Thank you. I'm glad to know that :)
I believe either people choose to be gay or it has been proposed that people who are gay have psychological problems. I'm not saying they do have mental problems but scientists have debated this. I really think it's a choice to be gay but I've never wanted to be gay and I still feel I can choose what I find desirable in a female and or it depends from day to day. So with that said I really don't know why people are gay.
But the way society seems to be now more accepting of gays and feminizing males I notice more and more people are gay. Not just in the media but in life.
It has been proven that what the society of a nation says a woman should want and what the society of a nation says a man should want can and usually does inspire the people that live there.
@Menina I want a smile. :(
@ Asker People don't choose to be gay. They born gay. It's simple.
@Asker What you mean?
@Menina I don't believe that just like I don't believe a alcoholic is born wanting to drink. It attracts him later in life. Babies choose later in life what they want to be. It's not born into them. I don't believe I was born straight. Wasn't until later that I was attracted to girls. I know someone who is gay and what influenced him was being raped by his brother. He wasn't born that way.
Or maybe some are born that way and some aren't? o.O Idk.
You gave the other guy a smiley. It's cool. I was just being playful I guess.
People do not choose to be gay. They are either born with gay tendencies or they are not. They can choose whether to act on them but that's the only choice involved. You are noticing more gays because more of them are comfortable making it known that they are gay, that's all.
People are attracted to types and features to varying degrees and they can make choices within the constraints of what they find attractive but they cannot choose to be attracted to someone they are not attracted to, period.
I'm done with this discussion.
Cheers
@ Being alcoholic and being gay are two different things. Homosexuality is not an addiction while alcoholism is.
He was being nice to me, so I was nice to him too.
People do not choose to be gay. They are either born with gay tendencies or they are not. They can choose whether to act on them but that's the only choice involved.
People do choose to be gay. I know a couple who have.
That still doesn't change the fact that society has changed it's view on homosexuality and thus more people choose to be gay. Looking back at history I would be inclined to believe that maybe some people are born gay and some aren't?
The truth is we really don't know. Scientists don't know you and I don't know. We can debate on reasons why it's something your born with or not and there are strong cases for both. You could even make such cases like it's a psychological problem if they are born that way and a choice if they chose to be that way. Am I right or are you right? I said I don't know.
People are attracted to types and features to varying degrees and they can make choices within the constraints of what they find attractive but they cannot choose to be attracted to someone they are not attracted to, period.
No not period. Some people apparently CAN choose what they are and aren't attracted to and or it can vary from day to day. The subconscious part is what society believes is right. If you believe this automatically then yes you don't change because you can't because you don't want to eliminate it and find what you find attractive consciously. To try to argue and say people are not influenced by their environment and conditioning is is incorrect. They are even if they don't believe they are.
@Medina Alcoholism is a "additive" disease. I can be addicted to alcohol and not have the disease. The disease is passed on. That is why parents who were alcoholics can pass that trait to their kids. It's still a choice as to if the kid chooses to drink and if he does drink he has a higher potential of being addicted to it than someone who is born from parents who did not have alcoholism. Also I didn't call homosexuality a disease although it's debatable.
*addictive
@Asker I didn't say that you called homosexuality a disease.
This discussion ends here for me.
Ok. Sorry if I made you upset.
Height doesn't matter
Diamond among coals.
its a shame that there aren't more women out there like you
But then again I'm 4'9 1/2 and I've never met a guy as short as me, but I don't see how it really matters
you don't see cause you're short love, i wish i didn't care like you.
but thats because you've never had to scoot so far down the bed that your feet stick out just because you want to lay your head on a guys chest.
it really isn't easy, its not just short guys. its tall girls
all over the internet you read about cute short girls
girls who get on their tippy toes
girls you can pick up
tall dark and handsome guys
guy who lean down
guys who can pick you up
it doesn't matter to you cause it doesn't effect you
@nooriginality You like dark guys? Well I fail in that category too. I can pick you up. I warm up with weight over your height unless your obese.
*weight
tall dark and handsome has nothing to do with skin color. dark as in mysterious. and all that "all over the internet you read about cute short girls
girls who get on their tippy toes
girls you can pick up
tall dark and handsome guys
guy who lean down
guys who can pick you up"
im quoting things I've read. not saying i agree with it. I'm saying thats how it is and it hurts
I'm very mysterious. It would be dangerous to walk through my mind. I just believe differently than most. I saw your other comment too btw.
Because women in general care more about what people think then men..
That's a deep statement and I agree.
nahh don't have any problem with average guy not problem well am tell but it's okey !
I've dated a few girls taller than myself. It's all about confidence, how you present yourself, etc. Plus, the gym works wonders for anyone (Take the focus elsewhere if it's that important to you).
Some girls don't care about height but I also shouldn't have to shift the focus if my other many qualities outweigh that one height preference.
That's way some short guys feel they need to be overly aggressive even though that's not who they really are.
I'm just saying! It's a way to help things if it truly bothers you. As for me, I don't let my short stature get in the way of someone I have feelings for.
The gym remark was leaning more towards a confidence booster type of thing. Improve your outlook on yourself, and things change in life. As for being overly aggressive? That will get you nowhere, aha. I wasn't suggesting to do that!
Right, I mean if I want it I'ma get it. I did lift weights in the past and height has never been a problem for me I'm just addressing how society suggest things and how some females follow these things just because it's the "norm".
I'm a deviant person I don't believe in stuff just because it's the norm.
It's just a matter of personal preference. You can't change her taste, she decides.
Apparently a lot of people think differently than I do on this matter. Some people don't though.
Because girls want dominant guys and being taller visually symbolizes this to them subconsciously
Yet height doesn't determine dominance and that's a sign of shallowness in my opinion. Kind of sad eh?
It is a sign of shallowness, but there is nothing wrong with being a little shallow
I try not to be but I guess could be if I wanted to be. It would exclude a loooot of females though. I don't know I guess it's the realness in me that make me not want to do it? o.O
EVERYONE on the face of this earth is a little shallow, if not very shallow.
You could be right, over shallowness can be a problem just like too much of anything or most things can be a problem.
Hahahahah subconsciously... No, it's a pretty damn obviously conscious traditionally/culturally-defined expectation.
So ma boi Kevin Hart that is 5'2 would not get any love round here?
Probably not, and he a dark skinned black guy. Smh. Society doesn't like them types. He winning though so he could be a exception. When you got money society makes the exception.
haha right I was joking
I just don't like to look down at anyone, esp my man (:
I dated one and it was hella awkward
It just feels weird lol
Don't to me.
To look up?
Yeah. I don't care about that. I'm still the male.
Lol understandable
I'm not short. A lot of girls like to kiss me and ask me to beat up short kids because they are too weak. I think it's just nature.
Nature from environment and conditioning.
because they think size equals strength
Well I'm big somewhere else. So I guess I got strength. LOL!! Call me Samson or Superman.
Most short guys tend to be really hung. You would be surprised how many tall guys are lacking in that area.
oh well, its not like women care about that anyways. just as long as they got a big tall bad ass looking loser next to them when they are out in the streets that they can use to put fear and oppress other men while making other women jealous they are ok with life.
@Rissyanne LMAO!!!
@CasaNorba I feel you. Get the girls who aren't like that though because the ones who are ain't worth it anyway. Let them get losers and be losers.
girls tend do be attracted to guys who are talkers not just lookers, be short or tall it doesn't matter if you just keep staring at her
Short guys run their mouth more than tall guys typically. I don't talk a lot but girls like me.
Some girls like guys who listen.
its a perception that we can't defend them. and short people finish last
I don't finish last
5'3-5'6 is quite a height difference. Don't exaggerate sir
It's a variation of three inches -___- and I'm not over exaggerating. Whether 5'3 or 5'6 or in-between that's still short by some girls standards. Even in this comment section some girls want a guy to be 5'8 and up. I would say I'm like 5'3 but I've stood next to people who claim they are 5'6 and I was maybe give or take a inch their exact height. They weren't wearing heels and I was wearing flat shoes. They must have been lying I guess.
*sigh* Don't overanalyze this to death. Look, no one ever said women were bright.
0_0 I'll leave that alone before five feminists come firing sniper shots through my window.