Are 20 inch wide (wall width) shoulders considered wide shoulders?

[Anonymous]

Do you think?

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[wordsOFwisdom]

Anthropometric Measurements

I looked it up; the rule is for the shoulder line to be three times the head's width, i.e. you can fit three heads across the line.

I've also looked into anthropometric databases. For an adult male the average head width is 6.1" whereas the shoulder line is 18.3". This is a shoulder line to head width ratio of 3.

For a small person, the head width can be no smaller than 5.6" and the shoulder line no smaller than 15.8". This is a ratio of 2.82.

For a large person, the head width can be no larger than 6.7" and the shoulder line no larger than 20.6". This is a ratio of 3.07.

So, if we want our head to look normal, the shoulder line should be 3 times our head's width, a ratio of 3.

If we want our head to look small, we increase the ratio towards 3.07.

If we want our head to look large, we reduce the ratio towards 2.82.

Of course, reducing the ratio may mean that the shoulder line is smaller than your real size, so the suit won't fit you. I believe in these cases the slope of the shoulders has a visual effect. Even if the ratio is perfect, i.e. 3, slopping shoulders can make the shoulder line look smaller and your head larger. Here, the suit must compensate for the slope.

To answer your question, we don't know but 20 is normal.

[Asker]

But that link says 18 inches is normal?

[Anonymous]

I think having "broad shoulders" has to do with your frame size and height. For example I'm 6'3" and my shoulder width is approximately 22 inches. I'm muscular but I'm not a body builder type. I have a large frame. Most people consider me to have broad shoulders.

If you want a scientific explanation I found this on firefighters link which states their average shoulder width to be 20.8 inches with a standard deviation of 1.4 inches. So in relation to firefighters you are average while I'm one standard deviation above average statistically. Firefighters are usually in shape and lift weights so they may alter the bell curve a little bit. =P

[Asker]

I don't know how you or they measure there shoulders but :S ... that procedure in the picture seems really odd and in-accurate lol. There measuring out way beyond where there shoulder and arm ends?..

I just stood flat againts a wall and had someone mark a pencil line either side of me...

But I'm NOWHERE NEAR 6'3 lol... I'm a shorty... about 5'6.5-5'7

[Asker]

Oops wrong picture... looking at shoulder height sat lol...

But still why do they have 4 layers of firefighter clothing on?...

Surely to measure shoulder width you do it bear?

[Opinion Owner]

I did my with a t-shirt on... I don't think it would change it more than a millimeter... I tested the wall pencil on each side and it ended up the same.

[Asker]

Well it would with what their wearing lol.. yeah thin t-shirt would only inhibit it but about 2.5 milimeters

[livi23]

Well, in the pictures those guys are scary. So I looked up 20 inch shoulders in google and saw decent sized guys, so I'd say it's a good measurement. But I'm no expert (:

[Asker]

lol I appreciate your efforts :P :) ... but them guys are a bit bigger than 20 inches lol... mines not after a workout though so... maybe 20-21 if I like pumped myself up like they do lol... I don't train though...

[livi23]

ahah well I'd say you have nice sized shoulders (:

[Asker]

Thankyou :P ... I never thought so lol till now... not a big guy though... only 5'8... naturally kinda defined though but only like 147 lbs... so... hmmm. But thank you for your compliments :)

[livi23]

well you're 4 inches taller than me! and you're welcome (:

[Asker]

Awww 5'4 how cute :P ...

[livi23]

hey you're only 4 inches taller! no making fun of my shortness!

[Asker]

I said it was 'cute'? ... no fair... I was told off for complimenting you :(

And insulted simultaneously :'(

[livi23]

sorry I'm sensitive 'cause I get picked on a lot :/ THANKS :D that's so sweet of you! and to me, 5'8" is pretty goddamn tall. :3

[Asker]

You get picked on? why?... lol... I wish :P ... but I have plenty of other attributes that better my height :D

[livi23]

what kind of attributes? :3 and for being short! I thought I was average height but then... all the tall people ganged up on me :(

[Asker]

Awww... seems odd :P ... thought girls liked being short... and guys tall... more masculine and feminin :P ...

But yeah least I possess more masculine attributes else where :) ... ummm like natural muscle definition I guess... for not a big guy, and not doing any training or physical activity... like messy abbs, ill defined pecs and biceps.. not that big but bigger than average biceps and average shoulders and such, over 14 inch biceps and 20 inch shoulders... and only being 142 + lbs...

[Asker]

as well as natural high strength, and umm being well endowed lol... and my height ain't that far from the most desirable :P so...

Bit of a perfectionist/ extremist :P even maybe a procrastinator...

[livi23]

ahaha I bet my muscles are bigger than yours :D

[Asker]

-__- ... meany... 12 inch arms are the average for a cut healthy guy :P (nothing above 18% fat) ...

Mines less than 11% fat so :P ... average for male is 23-24 % ..

But if you think you can better me :P ... not that I'm that high up the scale...

Girlies have a little more body fat though :P ... upwards of 30 % ... so neh neh ;)

What makes you girls so well figured though... (in the right places)

[livi23]

damn straight! I'm an hourglass!

[Asker]

Hot stuff ;) ha ha lol

[livi23]

ahah gee thanks (:

[Asker]

Pleasure :P

[countrybelle]

Yes, or I think so anyways, my boyfriend has wide shoulders like them but he trains like crazy and eats tons of protein so he's huge

[ivarei]

that is positively disgusting. I don't know why guys do that to themselves.

[Asker]

huh?

[ivarei]

guys who are that big. it's huge and it's nasty.

[Asker]

oooh right lol, I just used the link because it talked about shoulder widths and such...

[BobBobinson]

What girls want is proportion. Look up the "Golden ratio".

The same principal works for girls and their hips/breasts, proportion is more important than absolute size.

[WoIIie]

Yeah, that's wide. DerpAH!

[kaitlovesyou]

yea that's like steroid worthy

[WhiteIrishSugar]

haha.

[Asker]

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