+1 yYou never approach one of the two women. You approach BOTH and you must present yourself to BOTH. Never exclude one of them just because the other seems prettier (to you); that's the most superficial thing a man can do, and makes him seems selfish, very complexed and even insecure about his ability to seduce. Plus the fact that they probably are good friends and women pay a lot of attention to their friends' opinion on men. You better have a good feedback, even if you don't get laid that same night.
Also, take in account that if there are two (or more) women together, you have more opportunities to show your real self, as there will never be any awkward silence, because when one stays silent, the other will always bring a subject to talk about.
Don't approach them thinking how desperated you are to get laid. They already know that, as a man, you are very interested in sex. Just make them feel special and lucky that you chose to be there with them rather than with any other woman in the place. And don't forget to be a gentleman with their friends. That's a important rule!!73 Reply
Asker+1 ySeems MHO will go here. Though there are lots of people here who deserve it.
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Absolutely wrong, only one woman I'm attracted to the other has to deal with it ( not my problem ) , if she care about what her friends think of you that is a red flag in the future when you have problem, her friends might play with her mind and encourage her to break up with u, u need a woman can make her own decisions. I'm a man I'm a hunter and i hunt whoever i want.
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@Shihab91 The fact that you are attracted to her doesn't make you her owner, so you must flirt first. And flirting is about communication. And good communication comes through respect for her environment. And her environment includes every person she has chose to be in her life, her friends above all.
So, your strategy can, obviously, lead to lots of hook-ups but these women one day will get a boyfriend, will be married, will have kids, and you will be just a forgotten detail in their lives, like many other guys she had sex with and she never felt any need to see them again or to know if they are still alive or dead.
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3.1K opinions shared on Flirting topic. I don’t unless I get a big signal
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Asker+1 yWhat are big signals then?
Asker+1 yI see
The question here comes after establishing these already.
Asker+1 yMost simple but most effective. I get it !
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+1 yThere's a funny relationship with groups of people that contain a girl you're interested in; The more people there are in the group, the more work it takes on the front end but the bigger the impact you can have.
If the girl is alone and you approach her, it at least shows that you have courage but it could also be initially threatening or creepy for her since she's alone and you're a big strong male. But of course it's less intimidating for you. Since she's alone, it can be harder to demonstrate how cool of a guy you are since you're just talking to her alone, and it's hard to just believe what someone SAYS in a 1-on-1 conversation because you could always just be making up lies.
In groups it's weird to just approach a single person. It's kind of anti-social, intrusive because they're probably headed somewhere and people will be crept out. You have to approach the whole group. It takes more work to engage a whole group but if you do, you'll get a much bigger opportunity to prove to everyone in the group (including your girl) that you're a great guy. What does it say about you if you're able to just confidently approach groups of people, befriend everyone and be engaging enough that you add value to everyone's night? It says YOU'RE THE FUCKING MAN. If the girl was alone, you'd have to systematically prove that to her and build rapport in other ways. When you're in a group, the proof is in the pudding. It's undeniable because her close friends all like you. There's no better social proof than that. It's crucial that her key friends like you (the ones with the most influence in the group and on her) because if they do, they won't object when you later try to build a connection with her 1-on-1 or "borrow her for a few minutes" while you two get a drink (cheekily asking permission from her friends can be a great move).
Otherwise her friends will try to "save her" from you WHETHER OR NOT SHE ACTUALLY WANTS TO BE SAVED. But she won't be able to argue with her friends because they're her friends and she doesn't want to be judged by them or create problems.12 Reply
Asker+1 y224466881010.. copying the name so remember it.
As the words are definitely worth to remember, so also caring about remembering your name too
Many thanks for your your input- +1 y
Glad it helps :)
+1 yI never approach a girl on her own as it’s just creepy n can weird her out. (Different if she acknowledges you).
I far prefer groups of girls to talk to that way they feel more secure and flirting is less hitting on them than it is having a laugh with a group of girls.
just chat to both, all 3, all 6 of them etc.
never exclude one, also with a group of girls you never know which one is interested in you, as often you chat to one and two others start flirting heavily with you.20 Reply
+1 yWhere in the world do girls go out alone? Do tell!
As I was raised/brought up, you'd speak to the whole group - sometimes things would transpire, sometime not. You'd pay special attention to the one you are interested in but speak to anyone who expects it. Much more often than not it was a world of pain and distances and 'friends' sabotaging each other and the usual drama stuff (that you can consider people who are bored and ill intentioned cause, as a sort of social revenge on those who might otherwise enjoy being together (whether the angry are transgender or just hurt I never got to really establish - it is far too much effort)
Nowadays, if she is in company I do not know I tend to avoid contact altoghether. If she is interested she will show up somewhere again.11 Reply
Asker+1 yYeah. Some show up again with their friends.. and stare while talking and giggling.
Is that teasing.. or maybe torture?🤣
Anyway, really appreciated input
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+1 yStudy up on th subject… watch videos and read how to… have some things in mind in advance and then just do it with people ulout and about. Practice keeping your energy up and being interesting and engaging and carrying conversation. Then won’t be as hard when see someone interested. In general… be your best authentic self. They will appreciate you more
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Asker+1 yAuthentic other MHO
+1 yJust talk to them both like human beings. Strategically, it's even better if you talk to the one she's with more than/before her.
I think the best flirting is just being a naturally engaging, playful person. You can be playful with both of them/all of them, whoever is there. Two girls, three girls, 7 girls, 3 girls and 5 guys, just make some friends and have some fun. If there's a cute girl in the group that you like, you'll have an easier time getting to know her if her friends like you as well and it's not like you are zoning in on her and ignoring everyone else.12 Reply
Asker+1 yVery well said!! That's what I actually lack. Finding a topic in general and approaching and engaging as a stranger human, rather than a stranger guy.
I learnt eye contact, chatting, texting, and other stuff by myself as common sense thinking a lot and by reading and having reassurance from web (as what sounds logical and not cheesy or stupid). Is there like a name of this skill, approaching strangers and finding a topic.. then closing on to one?- +1 y
It's just being sociable, gregarious, confident. There are plenty of adjectives to describe this behavior but basically all it is doing is establishing that you are a confident person who can talk to strangers and are also not a boor but are entertaining and engaging. You don't want to dominate the conversation, but rather to facilitate it so that others also feel confident and engaged. When you make other people feel good when you are around, then they are going to want you around more, it's a basic positive feedback stimulus/response.
Think about all the people you love in your life. How do they make you feel? How do they have that effect on you? Think about how you can facilitate making others feel good and empowering them. Getting the girl at the end is just a natural result of this dynamic.
I don't have a ton of experience with this. But I have developed a pretty basic strategy for situations like this.
1) Involve the group. Don't just walk up to a group of friends and single out the girl you like right away.
2) Go up to them with a question or something like that, have a reason to approach other than "you're hot".
I have always liked a bar with a pool table or some sort of bar game. I can easily go up to a group and say I need someone to play with me. And ask them to join.
If they say yes, then chat up the group while you are playing. Again, take it slow. Maybe some light flirting with all of them. But a round of drinks. Once that is over, you now have a free pass to basically approach any of them after, or even suggest you get a table together, have some more drinks, then you can single out the girl you like a bit.
This is in a bar setting but could be applied to other situations. Just have to be creative.03 Reply
Asker+1 yThanks a lot for your input!! I just wish to know how to apply connecting to people in a general setting like a mall or park.
I have very nice results in non-verbal communication throughout my life in all situations.. lol but suck being informal. Formal is very easy and not sucking. Maybe I should stick to my origin as formal but adapt it to be acceptable as it usually ends up with me- +1 y
That's why I like the game aspect of things. I'm am pretty good at things like pool, darts, beer pong, you know dumb bar games. It's a nice ice breaker, you don't seem creepy, give you something to talk about a bit, and I can show off my useless skills a bit. It works pretty well.
If you go to a park, you could bring a frisbee or something like that. See if you could get some to play.
Asker+1 ySub-MHO for you
+1 yI'll just straight up approach her. I'll be polite to her friends but make it clear I like the girl I'm after. If she has even the slightest attraction to you, she'll admire your confidence for approaching her in a group as most guys are not that bold.
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Asker+1 ySub-MHO for you
I'm going to assume that you are talking about approaching a chick in a club or similar setting. First, I rarely see girls in club that are not in a group of three or more... with a girl alone is a whole other scenario. The most important thing you must look for when it comes seeing a group of girls, is what are they doing. Now, if you see them kinda leaning towards each other... they are into a conversation and just leave them alone. However, if you notice that they are looking around, tapping their feet to the beat of music and looking over at the dance floor. They want to dance, go ask one to dance. It is the best way to quickly get to know her.
10 ReplyTalk to all of them at once. You look predatory if you approach a group and only focus on one girl. You got to get all of their attention and impress all of them equally. This might even mean getting all of their phone numbers or social media info. Later on, you just focus on the one you want to talk to. I've done it successfully several times before. In some ways, it's easier than one person because not all of them will reflect you at once (unless they're all bitches). At least one of them is bound to be nice enough to talk to you. The best icebreakers are to ask them questions, like how the place you're in is, or what to order z or even what time it is or where's the restroom. Once you've got them talking, it's easier to build a rapport with them there, like asking for their names, how often they come here, what do they do for a living, etc.
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+1 yWalk up confidently, and capture their minds. DO NOT shower them in compliments, or they'll consider you just another simp in the crowd.
When you approach, make eye contact with them all.
"Hey, do any of you know anything about taking an Uber? I mean, can I just call them or do I have to sign up for some stupid app or something?"
They will be talking over each other to be the first to give you their worldly advice. They're probably going to tell you how easy it is to download the app and sign up.
At that point, slide over an un-taken chair, and say: "Hey, I really appreciate you guys helping me out. So what do I do first?" LOL00 Reply
+1 yYes its trickier. You have to gain all the girls acceptance. The second you leave if the group goes "ajaja pathetic he has weird eyebrows and was so corny" it doesn't matter if the girl liked you, most girls are too weak to go against their group.
So be friendly with all of them. At the end either ask like a group insta date ie "hey you're going to jays bar? Come to mikes beer world instead they have a free shot and a beer promotion tonight and y'all would get along with my friends who are there already"
Or just ask for all their numbers... small group 2 or 3.
Or just ask the one girl.
Honestly some work better than others based on a lot of details. Too much to write out.10 ReplyDepends on you. If you're introvert, then it doesn't matter - you never will approach her anyway.
But as an extrovert you will either engage the whole group and work your way to her. Or you will see who she is close with and engage with her, before nudging the conversation to "and who is your lovely friend here?"
That way the friend is interested in you, and your interest is now too.
Girls are pack animals by personality. Engage their friends, and you engage them too.00 Reply
+1 yIntroduce yourself to both of them nicely, talk to them both for a few minutes. At that point say something like, "I see you're out with your friend and don't want to take up your entire time out together. Then whichever person you're interested in look her directly in the eyes and say I'd like to give you my number so that we could maybe get a cup of coffee some time. If you're interested feel free to text me. If not no hard feelings it was nice meeting you both. And depending on the vibe possibly offer to buy them a round. If you do this correctly it will look like a nice gesture and not sleezy.
Now if she says why don't you hang out with us now then go for it. If not then walk away and go back to your friends and act normal. If at some point you get more looks from them ask them both if they want to hang with you and your friends while you're at the bar or whatever get together you're at. See how it goes from there.01 Reply
Asker+1 yI see
That's in a mall, the street, park, or generally just in public. And we both have signaled enough to each other where her friend (s) have noticed and know already.
Just the same said again?
Or her alone is better this case?
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yTry this at your severe risk and the only reason is the New York approach sometime occasionally works you go up directly to the hot chick that you like and look at the other one and dismiss her unless she wants to be included and the festivities later on that evening at this point what you guys are doing is ass kissing and sadly it has been played out that's why nothing is happening got to take a risk yeah I know it's a big fucking risk that's why I have a big nose
00 ReplyNever approach women with the sole intent of seducing, always approach them at least with the paired intention of making friends, with that you increase your chances of getting something good/fun.
Also, good chances that the girl you are attracted to won't be the "queen bee" and nothing pisses the queen bee than their "inferiors" getting male attention.
You have to "befriend" and distract the queen bee to extract the chick who's interested in you.
There's a chance that the queen bee will be interested in you and she will likely interpret your interest in her friend as interest in her if she's interested in you.
Try to appear gay or asexual to the queen bee, they don't take rejection very well.
Also, queen bees don't tend make good dating material, to put it lightly.00 ReplyAaaaaah my social anxiety is triggered. Idc how hot she is, no way. She'd have to separate from the friends so I can break the ice. One girlfriend is fine but multiple others? My dude even if she did like you there's a chance her crew is going to rip you apart. Unless you regularly get your balls busted you're toast
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+1 yGive them the same attention you give the girl you like maybe a little more like 60 40 or 70 30 to show the girl you like your interested in her. If you starting neglecting her friend she might consider you rude and annoying and that my destroy your chance.
20 ReplyYou just talk to them both, the way you would anyone else. I have learned not to approach women with any intention besides intending to enjoy my conversation with them.
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Asker+1 ySub-MHO for you.
That was helpful
+1 yIsolate her through the body direction. She can be near friends and not be with friends. If that's what you wish for. I couldn't answered better when I was 21 though.
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Asker+1 ySub-MHO for you
Just walk up to both of them and introduce yourself, tell them they look good, offer to pay for a drink (like physically walk to the bar with them and pay for what they order) ask its ok if you hang with them. Be nice, respectful, don't kick up a fuss if they say no.
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I like the part about not making a fuss if they say no, but we both know too many girls out there are trying to finesse drinks from men, that at this point it's almost like a meme.
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You post your table numbers... Online? Where? This is fucking fascinating.
You're telling me that you just send out payment details and drinks arrive in front of you?
They don't want anything? Where are all these generous, altruistic men? You should breed with them so that the world can be a better place. - +1 y
@224466881010 I send out table number not payment info. Take a pic. Tag the location on Instagram and anyone in the location who looks at the location tags can see your pic and buy you drinks if they so please. Some come over to say hi and we hang out have good chats. It's a great way to meet some interesting people.
+1 yYou approach both of them and say you ladies look lovely tonight! Hows your night going?
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Asker+1 yI'll act like a peaceful rain drop. Advice resembles the name. Good one :)
Sub-MHO for you 🤣😂- +1 y
@PeacefulRainDrop But how do you talk to two people at once? That doesn't make sense. They're two separate individuals. I don't understand how you could address a question to two people at the same time. It seems like you're treating them as dispensable clones.
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You wait until both ladies answer its happened to me plenty of times years ago when I went out with the girls
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@PeacefulRainDrop Wow. So they aren't offended? (Because I would be, if I were in their shoes!)
But where do you direct your eyes? Do you focus on a spot on the wall directly between them? Or do you swing your gaze back and forth like a pendulum? And who do you look at while you're in the process of speaking the words?
What I'm saying is how does that all work, exactly?
+1 yI am a girl and the way some of these girls are replying I wouldn't know either. Personally I would like someone to approach me, sit next to me at the bar once its free (dont take my friends seat) or ask me whether you can buy me whatever I am drinking.
00 ReplyFirst off, respectfully approach them don’t be creepy. Greet Everyone around her and don’t be rude. Talk to her and tell her bla bla bla (whatever made you want to approach her, but do it in the most respectful way you can think of). And if she rejects you then you just move on and don’t mind her at all. If she thinks you’re attractive and wants to hang out with you then congrats she trusted you.
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+1 yDon't approach groups, women will fuck it up for you simply because they are jealous that the other woman is getting the attention not them.
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Asker+1 yLol I'll keep in mind.
Two girls, one with a following stare, the other with head down. As if it is embarrasing to her.. or would it be jeoulsy. Though later on the 2nd gave signals which I found odd.
2nd usually always had head lowered, as we saw each other weekly
Would that count?- +1 y
You need a 2nd guy to approach 2 women, your friend talks to the other girl.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yYou have to open the group--you can't just open the girl. If she's with one other chick that's going to be even harder than if she's with a larger group.
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Asker+1 yI think I get what you mean.. like separate them I assume
If so, how do I get her to be alone then?
Opinion Owner+1 yAgain, if it's just her and another girl it's going to be REALLY difficult to get her alone. Better to have a great conversation get a number (ask for both) and then get out.
If she's with a bigger group you can say you'd like to borrow their friend and you'll bring her right back, then move with her to another part of the bar our outside.
Asker+1 yOkay. Should I talk like for 5 mins before leaving.. or less or more?
Opinion Owner+1 yDoesn't really matter. Good to chat for a bit longer after you get the number, but else all good. Quality is more important.
Asker+1 yVery nice. What in general is a good and not cheesy way to approach two. Like a group you said I want to borrow her.. friendly, simple, and not cheesy. Like what in general for two?
Opinion Owner+1 yYou need to start a conversation with both about anything. ANd you most certainly CANNOT open a group by saying you want to borrow their friend. That's only AFTER you opened and built some rapport.
Asker+1 yI suck in talking to someone (not formally). How to improve such a skill without these silly line starters. Though I know some starters aren't, I meant 'flirty lines'. So what questions or topics can you open like that with a stranger? The only common thing is atraction. Or can I like ask for simple funny survey and indicate my interest from there
Opinion Owner+1 ySimple questions work to start the conversation. It helps if you're genuinely interested and is the sort of thing you might ask anyone--not just hot chicks.
Asker+1 ySub-MHO for you
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+1 yIf she gives you choosing signals that likes you then just call her over or go to her and tell her you desire to talk to her. She won't tell you no.
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Asker+1 yYes, we definitely are into each other.
One of them was wis two other friends but all looking at me and like giggling.. I know what's going on. I was even waiting her as I know she usually passes by here. Seems they also got it
So, simply just call over by a hand gesture?- +1 y
You can do that. She likes, she will definitely go.
Asker+1 yGrand 🤣 Sub-MHO for you
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+1 yDont approach us with your friends or while we’re with friends. It gets messy af and someone will get intentionally embarassed. I always recommend one on one when approaching
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Asker+1 yThat's the purpose I ask. I'll never approach with friends anyway. I just want to grab her out of the group.. how?
As I almost never see her alone.
That's what I'm asking about- +1 y
@red324 i dont even go to bars/clubs. But its best that they go in pairs to avoid being taken advantage of. When i used to go to movie theaters, we were always in groups and guys would always approach with their group. It was a huge mess. It better to approach at a grocery store, gas station, gamestop, lol etc
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Asker+1 yExactly.. in such situations what to say or do? Like in grocery store or gas station
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Dont ask me out immediately. If im looking at a game, pretend you know it. “Be like omg you have that game too! We should play together some time if you wanna keep in touch.” Or if we’re at the gas station and im wearing your fave college shirt, be like “Hey thats my team! Do you go to their games much? If so maybe we can keep in touch and attend their next game together?” Or if im at the store and catch reach the top shelf, come get it down for me. Then say “hey you wanna exchange numbers in case you need me to reach the top shelf for you again?”
Asker+1 yThank you all for this :)
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Yes we loooove to talk. A lot lmao
Her owner? Who said that? Disrespect her environment? I'm not trying to steal her, I'm here because I'm attracted to her and her only you must be direct and honest. You just say hi to everyone then talk to her. Nothing disrespectful here. You are the hunter you are in control.
00 ReplyI’ve done it 2 years ago at work. I was talking to one girl while the other girl was just there
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Asker+1 yLogical. Thanks for reassuring.
So greet them then talk to her as if only she's there? Or directly just her from the beginning
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yIf you know her as a coworker, person, or by face, wait until she has been alone for a few minutes, or in another time when you come across her. Otherwise, just wait until she has been alone for a few minutes. But if she leaves, don’t go after her. That would be creepy.
00 ReplyAny girl is approachable when your motives are pure. If you are looking to get married, build a family, you never have fear when approaching ladies.
But if you want to get her to your bed, all you'd have is fear, anxiety and their likes.00 ReplyYeah I think if you approach one girl, the other one will get insecure and jealous.
10 ReplyThe thing is u don't approach a chick who'se with another unless u want to get ur ass kicked...
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Why would we get our ass kicked because we approach a girl who isn't alone? I have done it. I was polite and neither of them were mad at me.
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@This_Is_My_Opinion8 if polite than good but if flirty than...
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I was flirty, I wanted one of them. But I wasn't disrespectful.
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@This_Is_My_Opinion8 good...
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Honestly I don't think guys are afraid that girls will beat us when we approach them.
Asker+1 yFlirty and cheesy talk are not my things. I despise them
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But I bet you got rejected bitter clown 🥱 @ThisIsMyFifthAccount
Asker+1 yGood for me, eh
Chicks? Don's be afraid guy like you can only get hoes not real girlfriend if she is a hoes like you then its easy😏
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Asker+1 y🤭..😏
+1 yWho says chick anymore? They're "females". You dont approach anyone unless it's organic. The context will tell you how to do it.
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+1 yIf she is with the whole "bitch patrol" I wouldn't bother approaching unless you are a verified Chad Thundercock.
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Asker+1 y😅🤣
Not bitches.. but like in park or the street or supermarket. And we're both signaling to each other enough. I just want to know best approaching method
It's totally fine to ignore the other. The toher would just think you're rude
11 ReplyGo for her friend instead of her. It has always worked for me.
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Asker+1 yWhat.. how exactly?
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When I would go to clubs and I would see a group of girls and a girl caught my attention first I would make my presence known.. You can easily tell if women are looking at you and if course they play hard to get. Just go for the ugly friend instead of the one that caught your attention. She'll come around...
Asker+1 yConfidence okay with. But just hop directly into a group feels unnatural as human regardless of gender. Anyway I'll keep that in my head
if her friend tries to chase you away respond to her sarcastically and be like "you're the safety friend then?" and then if she continues say "we're gonna get along great I can tell"
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+1 yYou work it to where you catch her alone
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Asker+1 y🤔 I see
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Like when she goes the the bar, juke box or the toliet
+1 yThe only opinion I can render here is, if I was a guy I will feel ashamed for approaching them thinking maybe the might End up disgracing me or making a joke out of me. Not knowing that things don't work like that
00 ReplyJust go over there and start talking they'll let you know if they don't want you around you won't know unless you dive in here first
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+1 yThey'll all just think you're creepy. They're there entertaining each other.
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+1 yBe very careful. Or be sure which one you like. It's highly likely that the one who is staring at you is a wing girl.
00 ReplyEasy you give both of them drinks laced with ghb and see what one goes out first.
00 ReplyTry ask her for like please can I use your cellphone to make a call then you flash your phone with her number then you gat it.
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+1 yApproach her and focus her and tell her dress is nice. And start ask her where she from and what she does for a living and so on
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yYou don't, approaching women is a fast track to the wall or jail depending on the opinion of the day
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+1 yYou approach my woman when I am with her, you'll be lucky to walk out alive.
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Asker+1 yDo you doubt your girl will give signals to guys..
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yWhen that young woman isn’t with that boyfriend I go in with the game
00 ReplyI had a wingman that talked to her friend.
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Asker+1 yWohoo. That definitely helps ! 😆
I say hi and start from there done
00 ReplyYou go to her friends.
00 Reply335 opinions shared on Flirting topic. You don't
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+1 yDouble the chances!
00 ReplyI don't
10 Replyyou don't
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+1 y…..🤣🤣
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