Do vegans really live longer than meat eaters?

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YourFavoriteFriend · Accepted Answer

I'm not a doctor. All of the following has been the result of what I was able to found online after some months of "research".

Plant based food contains:

- Carbohydrates that rise your insulin resulting in tons of problems (like high blood pressure, developing diabetes type 2, lowering longevity (which is what you asked funny enough), etc.). Carbohydrates are also the food source that cancer eats from. It cannot eat fad. So the whole "read meat causes cancer" is a BULLSHIT I still refuse to believe (and there aren't any true evidence to believe it anyways).

- Fiber (which is a type of carbohydrate) which cannot be broken down from your body, absorbs water and gets bigger resulting in bloating and gut problems

- Lectins

https://www.youtube.com/embed/RmGXpjEhnLI

- Oxalates

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Yg1BXmn0T4M

Animal based food contains:

- Higher quality protein including every amino acid your body needs and cannot create.

- Essential fatty acids that are... well, essential to your body!

- Better nutrient profile with more vitamins and minerals.

- Fish contain heavy minerals which are dangerous for our body and if you want to eat them in a daily basis, you have to eat the fish that contain the less (maybe top 5 with the less amount of them).

Do the math! I used to be the "healthy plant" eater. Now, I hate them and only add some of them in the food for the taste. I love my food now and I feel much healthier and happier!

SomeGuyCalledTom · Accepted Answer

There are some large scale correlational studies like the EPIC study and the NHS nurse's study, but they do rely largely on self-reporting questionnaires which aren't the gold standard for clinical reliability. I've seen some mechanistic studies come out about how specific plant foods may have longevity-promoting benefits, but relatively speaking nutrition science is in its infancy compared to established hard sciences like biology or pharmacology. Its also harder for researchers to get the mechanistic nutrition studies funded because the big money is in pharmaceuticals which may be directly undermined by people becoming more knowledgeable on cutting edge nutrition science. There's no millions to be made in brocoli, but there's billions to be made in animal agriculture subsidies and pharmacological interventions sold at mark-up. So it's hard to parse the data from the hype when economic forces effectively require nutrition research to be actively suppressed. What we do know is that eating more plants can only offer more health benefits, whereas eating more meat and dairy only comes with more disclaimers and asterisks abd dubious funding sources for the studies that support their consumption. (fyi I'm still an "omnivore" not a vegan, but the science gets tricky when you realise the meat industry stands to lose more from publicly available nutrition research than the green smoothies industry.

SoftCliff · Accepted Answer

I don't know, but many large population studies have found that vegetarians and vegans live longer than meat eaters and have lower risks of cancer, heart attacks, and other chronic degenerative diseases.

I'm not an expert, but come to think of it a whole foods plant based diet seems to be healthiest as you get far more minerals, nutrients, and vitamins than meat eaters while avoiding cholesterol and high amounts of saturated fat. Also, supplements are no match for actually eating the fruits, vegetables, and legumes that naturally carry them.

Of course exercise is vital too, but isn't a cure-all for bad eating habits.

sunflower00 · Accepted Answer

I don’t think it’s as basic as vegan/meat eater…I think people who eat healthier and live a healthier lifestyle live longer. This can often end up being the vegan as they focus more on diet and nutrition generally. Meat eaters account for a huge percentage of the population including those who live on junk food, fried foods, eat no vegetables or fruits, etc.

You can eat healthy balanced meals whether you are a vegan or meat eater, so those who do this will live longer than those vegans or meat eaters who don’t and just eat junk with no nutritional value (again, generally)

Kaneki05 · Answer

Basically yes but most of the factor to that is due to Red meat. If you just eat chicken of fish you are very unlikely to get cancer unlike cows or pigs.

Milk is also only really health until your 20s and even before that people show rejection to it because we are all kinda lactose intolerant with only other factors that make people more visibly so.

So if your a person who likes milkshakes and steak with a side of bacon you will for sure be dead before someone having a veggie burger with a smoothie.
So as you can see if meat eaters actually balanced what they eat it wouldn't be much difference but because they don't red meat is a leading cause for cancer.

BeMuse · Answer

I had a grandmother that made it to 101 and my grandfather made it to 96. They cooked an entire turkeys, chickens, hams, roasts etc. on a regular basis. Veggies were a part of the meal, but there was always a central coarse of meat. It was a core part of their diet. They cut back on beef and ate more poultry as they got older. My other grandmother made it to 96 also and she fucking hated vegetables. You couldn’t get her to eat them for anything. Her diet was mostly meat and grains/bread. She also ate a lot of sweets. She loved her processed foods like cake, donuts, cookies, candy, etc. and she drank soda regularly.

Levin · Answer

A lot of myths and bullshit peddling on this thread.

In reality, there's just too many variables. You can be healthy and unhealthy eating plant based and eating meat.

I eat plant based, and always get told I look 5-10 years younger than I am.

However, I still eat some animal foods.

I definitely think animal foods are bad for you in quantity. What's the evidence for that? Just look at the population. We're scientifically 'advanced' and yet half the population will get cancer and most seem to be half dead by the time they're 50. This is not a good advocate for meat eating or typical Western diets. There's too many myths around carbs too. Anyone who can't differentiate between complex and highly processed carbs (see @yourfavoritefriend) shouldn't be talking about this matter, either. There's nothing that gets my goat more than people talk shit about carbs.

jshm2 · Answer

No. Not even close.

Of the known people who have lived past 100, and lived medically "healthy," lives, only 4 were vegetarian. Not even Vegans.

Vegans are among the most unhealthy and risky prone people. Not only because of the mostly ultra processed shit they eat. But it's food laden with carcinogenic preservative. Also, most of the plant matter they consume is GM and dubious nutritional quality. It's basically "artificial food" by another name.

It looks like the "vegan" craze will be the new "smoking". We won't be shown the science and real damage to health it did, until 30-40 years time, like was the case with tobacco.

hahahmm · Answer

1. I never knew anybody who claimed to be a veagan who wasn't sneaking meat sauces & even full meat dishes when they thought nobody knew OR they think you won't judge them for it.

2. I also never knew a person like this who bothered to study nutrition and be smart about what they eat so they end up having some kind of nutritional deficiencies. For example I knew this guy who ONLY ate cabbage. His hands turned orange but he thought everything was fine. Oh, he also would drink several liters of soda per day. Do the math on that.

Anonymous · Answer

In caveman days we were made to eat mostly meat with veggies filling in. The men would go hunt for some big water buffalo or something from the Flintstones and the women would cook it up and make it last all winter. I think what shortens people's lives now is sugar and simple carbs, which they didn't really have back then.

AmandaYVR · Answer

No. They probably have less heart disease, but I've never read evidence to support this. A balanced diet, as the body was designed to have, includes portions of all types of food. Many people eat a very unbalanced diet (look at how many men loathe vegetables or survive on fast food), but that doesn't mean an extreme inverse is the ideal. Low fat, low sugar, lean red meat on occasion, has been said to be healthier than removing all animal fat protein.

Youryeodongsaeng · Answer

Not a doctor here. I think vegans and meat eaters will still have the same life expectancy. Food that they eat can cause food poisoning, and meat eaters' foods can also cause food poisoning. I think vegans and meat eaters both are healthy in their own way; we can still get the proper nutrients, vegan or not.

NZGirl07 · Answer

In my opinion I would say no. I think life expectency depends more on genetics, drug and alcohol use etc. I think vegan doesn't = healthy. You can be vegan and eat vegan ice cream and chips, drink coke and be unhealthy. If you eat meat but not excessively and you eat veges and fruit and exercise then that's a healthy lifestyle. It is dependent on more than meat and dairy products.

USLegionary · Answer

No. I believe there has to be balance between eating meat and vegetables. Moderation in all things. The Vegans I know struggle to get enough vitamins and proteins and have to eat a ridiculous amount of food. They also suffer from bad breath and b. o.

HighValue · Answer

Someone can't eat meat for 30 to 40 years and then be vegan for a year and truly claim all of their health is from being vegan. From what I have seen at first they get more energy when they switch, but after a while they lose strength and endurance and usually become much weaker physically than they were before.

Phoenix98 · Answer

Really you should be eating both alongside other types of food which I say as a former PT who studied nutrition.

I'll say this I have known very few vegans or vegetarians that either weren't taking obscene amounts of supplements to cover their nutritional gaps or that didn't have nutritional deficiencies from a lack of proper nutrition.

Noahzaid · Answer

No, Not really. we need meat to survive but the problem is that today’s meat products aren’t natural and filled with chemicals, thats why a lot of people are obese with heart problems. look at the people who live in farms, they are healthy because they eat directly from what they own.

midnightmoon05 · Answer

It’s good to eat a balance diet with/out meat. PLUS having a healthy, positive outlook within the self and the world.
I know I come from strong female families. Grandmas, great grandmas lived to their 90s.
I still have to take care of myself. It take life seriously, not get stress over anything.
that’s my secret. It’s out now

007kingifrit · Answer

NO, this study has been debunked by the same research group that conducted it. They did a follow up study where they realized meat eaters tend to smoke more and exercise less. adjusting for those 2 things all variables of lifespan disappear entirely.

vegans and vegetarians do NOT live longer. old debunked research

Account · Answer

I don't know about vegans, but I am a vegetarian and I feel like i barely exist most days. Anyway as for your question, I doubt it, but I am gonna make sure to Google it afterwards out of pure curiosity.

Rosexøxø · Answer

I mean, I will say this- thanks to the picture-

veggies absorb more water, and offer direct nutrients

meanwhile, meat can easily dry up or dehydrate (I feel), and has probably half the nutritional value?

Anonymous · Answer

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purplepoppy · Answer

There's too many factors to look at and not enough long term studies. I suspect any claims are based on anecdotal evidence and rather biased.

John_Doesnt · Answer

Winston Churchill died at the age of 90. He was a heavy smoker, heavy drinker, he ate a traditional British fry-up every morning and never exercised beyond a walk around his estate.
Doctors have no idea what increases longevity at this point in time. Modern medicine still has a long way to go before they can predict whether someone will live to be old or die young.

Apple1996 · Answer

Yes but It's probably cuz vegans are avoiding a lot of processed food and eating healthier in general.

AbbasAlsa · Answer

The thing is to have compound of veg and meat and to start your meal with something sour or salt and end in salt or sour because this way you can kill harmful bacteria and to keep the good ones in also don't eat until you full leave enough space for water and breathing

curiousaboutthis · Answer

Probably, meat has a lot of fat. It mostly depends on how much protein is consumed, most vegans eat a lot of beans and nuts because they are chock-full of protein.

jennifer_bloom · Answer

I read a vegetarian that consumes dairy has an IQ 8 points higher than a non vegetarian and a vegan that avoids dairy has an IQ 10 points lower than an omnivore.

Anonymous · Answer

It’s all in moderation, I don’t eat too much red meat and some days I don’t need any meat, are usually eat chicken or turkey and sometimes fish. It really depends on genetics mostly sons my stepdad‘s been eating red meat all his life and it’s 77 years old with no signs of any health problems

AsaKyo · Answer

Um I don't know, I kinda eat both, ya know? I mean, I do know some vegetarians, but that's completely different and they seem to be doing alright

But vegans? I'm not sure exactly, so I can't comment lmao

FunkyMonkee · Answer

Not from what I've seen! Most of them I've seen tend to look 20 or 30 years older than they actually are! Dad, however, a meat-eater, died at 81 and still looked like he was in his 50's!!

Bethany22 · Answer

Cool picture! I would have thought that they lived shorter lives than meat eaters, since they're deprived of nutrients

Astarlessnightsky · Answer

Generally yes, as vegans pay a lot more attention to what they eat and generally live a healthier lifestyle overall.

peedy · Answer

A few years ago Jesse Waters (Fox news) had a college professor on that was a vegan i have her before very pretty healthy looking young woman after 2 years of being a vegan she literally looked like a drug addict
Go to YouTube and do a search for vegan deterioration and learn more
We humans need meat we need protein in our diets to be healthy and nothing tastes better than a juicy steak

ZXCwWRQWz · Answer

On average, probably, because those meat eaters include SAD. But it's like comparing a donut-eater to a salad eater. If you do a fair comparison in the Amazon then vegans starve to death and meat eaters reign supreme.

xJayleenx · Answer

Apparently having a diet high in lentils and legumes helps you to live at least 10 years longer meat is not bad it’s only bad if you eat it too often, or eat red meat, also if you eat fish that’s high in mercury

Fuentes · Answer

That's something you should ask scientist or a Dr

SassyAussieAddy · Answer

Humans are omnivores. Thats what I go with.

Midgetmcwidget · Answer

Well it may be true that vegans live longer but time flies when you are having fun

Aiko_E_Lara · Answer

No. Vegans just have limited access to junk foods that's why they may seem healthier but those who aren't vegan who have proper self control are healthier.

Avicenna · Answer

That's a good question. You would have to control for other factors affecting longevity. I do think that everyone should make healthy plant-based foods a significant part of their diets.

Anonymous · Answer

this literally doesn't matter. (coming from a vegetarian). you could die literally at any time, regardless of what you choose to eat. scary.

exitseven · Answer

no. it probsbly just seems that way because they can't eat hamburgers.

lottiebannotie · Answer

No but statistics prove they are far more likely to be spoilt whining middle class little cunts enjoy your smashed avocado I'm off for a steak

Litza · Answer

To me, no. They have just as much health issues as anyone else. Death hits everyone. They aren't special.

Oigit · Answer

Living longer is a cool idea. But given how unpredictable life is, I'd rather eat a stake instead of a salad.

RV2121 · Answer

Yes vegans live longer not necessarily because of food but because of lifestyle factors. I'm a vegan too and never felt better and more energetic.

PainusNdeeAnus · Answer

No they don’t they actually live longer than people who can’t afford to be picky because they don’t know when their next meal is coming

BJP21 · Answer

If its grown without those nasty pesticides or hormones, you can eat like shit, and shed the wieght. I learned that when I visited an agrarian town in Mexico.

Zolly99999 · Answer

I don't think so... I think generics play the biggest part in a person life span.

Anonymous · Answer

People who eats everything in moderation and maintain a healthy and balanced diet can live longer than people who doesn’t (Usually)

Anonymous · Answer

People be naive I'd say. There is no clear supportive evidence of that.

Anonymous · Answer

Maybe, but c'mon... what kind of life is that? 🤣

Anonymous · Answer

In this life, walking to the store can cut your life short

Valso · Answer

Humanity survived the ice age by meating, so the vegans are welcome to die of malnurishment. No one's gonna miss these phanatics anyway.

Luopio27 · Answer

Of course they do, if they go around shooting meatlovers. Dont believe me, your picture doesn't lie.

MountAverage · Answer

I don't know, but people who eat a lot of meat don't live very long on average.

AndrésC64 · Answer

Meh, I don't care even if it is true. I'd rather live a shorter more enjoyable life.

boobliker · Answer

be nice to think they do but any good food will help you live longer

Luckycharms12 · Answer

Rather live happy than longer. Plus there no evidence to prove that.

msc545 · Answer

Usually they probably do since their coronary arteries probably don't get clogged up as fast.

OddBeMe · Answer

I don’t even think non smokers can say that about smokers.

LivingExample · Answer

I don’t think they live longer because God Designed our bodies for Meat!

Anonymous · Answer

Vegans hate meat so much that they invent new foods to taste just like meat.

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