At the end of the day, we can choose to view this subject in 1000 different ways, depending on what you're trying to define.
Are we trying to define biological mating cues? Does a woman want to "feel sexy" because those are biological cues she is compelled to follow? Possibly.
Does a woman intend to consciously do that? Not necessarily? But either way, she is at the very least doing the former, subconsciously, since that's how human nature works, particularly around sexual matters.
If we are led to believe that women, in general seem to be compelled to "feel sexy" in some deliberate, altruistic effort, unrelated to any social hierarchy, I see that as deep deficit of self-awareness.
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My problem is girls ask guys how they look and if the guy doesn't say they look amazing in some way the girl usually responds with something along the lines of "Fuck you, who asked you anyways?(well you did) We don't dress for you we dress for ourselves!"
It's like why ask if you dress for yourself? If you don't like the answer don't ask. It's really annoying. Yes sometimes guys give their opinion when it wasn't asked for but other times this whole "we dress for ourselves" crap is thrown around even if the guy was specifically asked.
@Illusive_Man No we shouldn't have to be tactful. The fact that people say you need to be tactful is just proof that there is a serious issue. Because if there was no issue there would be no reason to feel compelled to be tactful.
Well I guess I know who's not gonna be a diplomat lol Anyway, being tactful doesn't mean you're deceitful it means delivering the message at the right time with the right tone. I don't see anything wrong with that.
I would have to agree. There is no issue with a guy complimenting a woman - it's when it's rude, sexual, harassing, etc. THAT is an issue. @Illusive_Man I think is absolutely right.
@Illusive_Man Well I mean the right and only time is at that moment because that's when they asked for an opinion on their outfit. Again if they don't specifically ask me I won't say anything. And I'm not rude about it I'm just saying some flip tables if anything less than something along the lines of their outfit being 10/10 is made.
That sounds like the kinds of girls YOU have an issue with. That doesn't at all apply to me or other women just because you have had personal issues with a few psychotic women in a completely unrelated topic. Because the take wasn't about women asking you for your opinion on their outfit, at all, in any way. Seems more like you're venting about personal problems rather than focusing on the heart of what the take was about.
i kinda agree with you. i dress up myself as i do for myself, but i never thought i actially had a guy in my head deep down, but after thinking about it i guess you're right ^^
I believe women dress solely for other women... not to gain attention from ( in the words of many women , yep straight from the horses mouth ) " disgusting pervy men " . Men that think women dress for them are hugely mistaken & egotistical !!
I look good for me. Not for any guys or attention. I mean who will love you if you dont love yourself first and like @Anonymous said I also do it to feel good. It has become a hobby actually. Nice take by the way !!
Ever been to a party and and you see women sometimes looking your way, looking at your feet, dress, jewelry or your face? And it happens more than twice? Those women are comparing your style to theirs. I think that yes, women dress for themselves to impress the ideal man who matches their personality, however it is also a quiet competition between us to see who is the best dressed.
1) Women dress up to feel good about themselves... they like feeling good and sexy... like a guy would feel the rush after he made a big tackle or an impossible shot. Its a good way to get over a bad situation or get a self esteem boost or simply enjoy the damn day. 2) Yes woman do / may dress up to meet a potential guy. But that is just going to be one guy that she feels interested in. Rest will be rejected or ignored.
You're so confident in your opinion that you posted non-anon, such respec... oh wait... you didn't. You just wanted to share a shitty opinion and didn't have the balls to do it without hiding like a coward.
Seems like a solid opinion to stand by when you can't even attach your name to it, hmmm?
I've always thought/believed that women dress up to feel good. How will they feel good? when they are the envy of other women, and in the center of attention for men or potential partner. Why are they envied by other women? because they are competing for the same thing, the attention of men or a potential partner. Either or. Im just summarizing here. Its very easy to tell when a woman dresses to be envied by other women and when she wants the attention of men.
I love it! I understand, and it works and this is IT. You're right! It's true and it's fairly generalised, but that's what makes it work and I love it! Nice one!
I always thought it's quite simple. If we wouldn't care at all about what other people think about us, we would walk around in the most comfy clothes there are. Usually we don't though.
So why do women dress? Yes, they dress to feel better. But they also dress for others because it makes them feel better when they know they are seen in a better light by others.
I think you're right, but I think I'm fine being single if women are that particular about things in general. I'll just wait until I meet a girl who isn't going to have a aneurysm by 40.
Ya know what I do when I get dressed, I decide between work clothes I can get dirty and don't mind tearing up, or decent clothes to go out to eat in, that's as complex as I and many guys I know get.
I get that it's a bit different for women but good lord.
Women dress up for tons of reasons sometimes it's for us guys, sometimes it's for them and other times it's because well why not, perhaps it's for a interview, maybe a job among other reasons.
That poor girl in the last photo. Middle fingers and crotches.
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To be honest when I am out shopping I buy/wear clothes that I liked. I want to get my nails done for me it truly makes me feel happy and different. I feel like I help out others and give my time. So when I buy clothes or wear something or get dress up its me time I feel happy with myself and choice of clothes.
I disagree wholeheartedly. Why must feeling beautiful have to be for the male gaze? In your eyes, a woman can't even dress up for herself as she is - it has to be for the male version of herself. No. That just ridiculous.
Interesting. I agree with @FatherJack and others that women dress solely to piss off other women by attempting to look better than them (and by better, I mean more desirable to men).
Thanks for sharing your well-reasoned theory, I enjoyed it.
Women dress up for other women. If women dressed up for men, they would dress like women dress in porn videos. Women have always dressed up to impress other women.
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At the end of the day, we can choose to view this subject in 1000 different ways, depending on what you're trying to define.
Are we trying to define biological mating cues? Does a woman want to "feel sexy" because those are biological cues she is compelled to follow? Possibly.
Does a woman intend to consciously do that? Not necessarily? But either way, she is at the very least doing the former, subconsciously, since that's how human nature works, particularly around sexual matters.
If we are led to believe that women, in general seem to be compelled to "feel sexy" in some deliberate, altruistic effort, unrelated to any social hierarchy, I see that as deep deficit of self-awareness.
My problem is girls ask guys how they look and if the guy doesn't say they look amazing in some way the girl usually responds with something along the lines of "Fuck you, who asked you anyways?(well you did) We don't dress for you we dress for ourselves!"
It's like why ask if you dress for yourself? If you don't like the answer don't ask. It's really annoying. Yes sometimes guys give their opinion when it wasn't asked for but other times this whole "we dress for ourselves" crap is thrown around even if the guy was specifically asked.
I got a feeling it has something to do with the response the guy gave to warrant such an explosive response lol
You have to be tactful eh?
@Illusive_Man No we shouldn't have to be tactful. The fact that people say you need to be tactful is just proof that there is a serious issue. Because if there was no issue there would be no reason to feel compelled to be tactful.
Well I guess I know who's not gonna be a diplomat lol
Anyway, being tactful doesn't mean you're deceitful it means delivering the message at the right time with the right tone. I don't see anything wrong with that.
I would have to agree. There is no issue with a guy complimenting a woman - it's when it's rude, sexual, harassing, etc. THAT is an issue. @Illusive_Man I think is absolutely right.
@Illusive_Man Well I mean the right and only time is at that moment because that's when they asked for an opinion on their outfit. Again if they don't specifically ask me I won't say anything. And I'm not rude about it I'm just saying some flip tables if anything less than something along the lines of their outfit being 10/10 is made.
That sounds like the kinds of girls YOU have an issue with. That doesn't at all apply to me or other women just because you have had personal issues with a few psychotic women in a completely unrelated topic. Because the take wasn't about women asking you for your opinion on their outfit, at all, in any way. Seems more like you're venting about personal problems rather than focusing on the heart of what the take was about.
i kinda agree with you. i dress up myself as i do for myself, but i never thought i actially had a guy in my head deep down, but after thinking about it i guess you're right ^^
I believe women dress solely for other women... not to gain attention from ( in the words of many women , yep straight from the horses mouth ) " disgusting pervy men " . Men that think women dress for them are hugely mistaken & egotistical !!
I look good for me. Not for any guys or attention. I mean who will love you if you dont love yourself first and like @Anonymous said I also do it to feel good. It has become a hobby actually. Nice take by the way !!
I completely agree with you, it's like you wrote my own thoughts down.
Thank you! :D
This myTake explains in detail and clearly why the safest assumption, the one I've lived by for many years, is that...
No woman is EVER dressing for me.
There is nothing more essential to the male point of view than the requirement that things be simple.
Ever been to a party and and you see women sometimes looking your way, looking at your feet, dress, jewelry or your face? And it happens more than twice? Those women are comparing your style to theirs. I think that yes, women dress for themselves to impress the ideal man who matches their personality, however it is also a quiet competition between us to see who is the best dressed.
Whats the prize of this competition? Isn't men attention?
Your Take in 3 lines:
1) Women dress up to feel good about themselves... they like feeling good and sexy... like a guy would feel the rush after he made a big tackle or an impossible shot. Its a good way to get over a bad situation or get a self esteem boost or simply enjoy the damn day.
2) Yes woman do / may dress up to meet a potential guy. But that is just going to be one guy that she feels interested in. Rest will be rejected or ignored.
3) It was two lines... my bad.
You're so confident in your opinion that you posted non-anon, such respec... oh wait... you didn't. You just wanted to share a shitty opinion and didn't have the balls to do it without hiding like a coward.
Seems like a solid opinion to stand by when you can't even attach your name to it, hmmm?
I've always thought/believed that women dress up to feel good. How will they feel good? when they are the envy of other women, and in the center of attention for men or potential partner. Why are they envied by other women? because they are competing for the same thing, the attention of men or a potential partner. Either or. Im just summarizing here.
Its very easy to tell when a woman dresses to be envied by other women and when she wants the attention of men.
I love it! I understand, and it works and this is IT. You're right! It's true and it's fairly generalised, but that's what makes it work and I love it!
Nice one!
I always thought it's quite simple. If we wouldn't care at all about what other people think about us, we would walk around in the most comfy clothes there are. Usually we don't though.
So why do women dress? Yes, they dress to feel better. But they also dress for others because it makes them feel better when they know they are seen in a better light by others.
That is nuts, absolutely borderline insane.
I think you're right, but I think I'm fine being single if women are that particular about things in general. I'll just wait until I meet a girl who isn't going to have a aneurysm by 40.
Ya know what I do when I get dressed, I decide between work clothes I can get dirty and don't mind tearing up, or decent clothes to go out to eat in, that's as complex as I and many guys I know get.
I get that it's a bit different for women but good lord.
Women dress up for tons of reasons sometimes it's for us guys, sometimes it's for them and other times it's because well why not, perhaps it's for a interview, maybe a job among other reasons.
That poor girl in the last photo. Middle fingers and crotches.
To be honest when I am out shopping I buy/wear clothes that I liked. I want to get my nails done for me it truly makes me feel happy and different. I feel like I help out others and give my time. So when I buy clothes or wear something or get dress up its me time I feel happy with myself and choice of clothes.
I disagree wholeheartedly. Why must feeling beautiful have to be for the male gaze? In your eyes, a woman can't even dress up for herself as she is - it has to be for the male version of herself. No. That just ridiculous.
Interesting. I agree with @FatherJack and others that women dress solely to piss off other women by attempting to look better than them (and by better, I mean more desirable to men).
Thanks for sharing your well-reasoned theory, I enjoyed it.
"I dress for women and undress for men."
- Raquel Welch
'scuse me... I misattributed the quote. That was clearly ANGIE DICKINSON.
But Raquel Welch would have said the same if she was as smart as Angie Dickenson! :D
Women dress up for other women. If women dressed up for men, they would dress like women dress in porn videos. Women have always dressed up to impress other women.