Is it true that women don't like men with no experience with women?

[Terrell456]

I read a thread and it pissed me off. Here's why? It said that men who haven't kissed a girl, had sex, or even had a relationship by the time he's 24 has a mental illness. Well, I'm a virgin at 24. I have never kissed a girl or had a relationship. What I'm gonna do is just stay single and never try. It's better than being judged by women because I don't try to bang everything that moves. Is this true ladies? Go ahead be honest...

[Encolpius]

I can't speak for all people, so I will simply offer this little anecdote of what happened to me.

I was 31 when I had my first kiss and dated for the first time. Two years later, I have a wonderful girlfriend who is saving herself for marriage just as I am. She is absolutely thrilled that i am inexperienced, because that means that our marriage will be a clean slate with no baggage or expectations.

My point is that there are women out there who will be glad to date and marry a virgin. Oftentimes they are religious and/or conservative.

[still_waiting]

Good advice!

[Anonymous]

Women like when guys behave as if they know what they're doing. Insecurity, passivity, asking for permission, not taking the lead are all a bit of a turn off for girls and sadly guys with no experience are more likely to have those traits/behave that way. That's no reason to get pissed off or discouraged 'cause once you understand how attraction works you don't need experience to behave in a more attractive way. Beware of a negative or bitter attitude though - it's a sure way to undermine your chances with girls.

[Terrell456]

To be honest, I don't have a strong opinion towards women. Don't get me wrong, I love my mother and sisters. But the others, I don't like them or hate them.

[still_waiting]

Doesn't mean you have a mental illness. The girl who said that is ignorant and rude.

but it can be a red flag. Its like, hmmm I wonder why he's 24 and a girl has never liked him?
Makes us wonder if there's something weird going on with you, no offense.
And giving up and never trying is probably your problem. Its not gonna solve anything.

And by the way we don't want a guy that bangs anything that moves, but we're also iffy about the 24 year old with zero experience. There's a happy medium

[Terrell456]

To be honest, after reading that and some of these answers I'm not sure If I even care if women like me.

[still_waiting]

You wanted an honest answer, you got it.
You can't hate women for wondwring why you are that age with no experience.

[Terrell456]

I never said I hated women.

[still_waiting]

Fine, "resent."

[Terrell456]

I don't even resent them. How can I hate or resent someone when I have absolutely no experience with them? I just have a neutral opinion towards women.

[still_waiting]

Why don't you want to date? Some girls are really mean but there's quite a few good ones out there. I just don't think you should give up

[still_waiting]

And confidence is key

[Terrell456]

Shyness. I have been struggling to get rid of it all my life. I want to reach out to women but I just can't. I get scared.

[still_waiting]

A lot of girls and guy struggle with that. Challenge yourself

[Terrell456]

It is a constant struggle. I stammer and stutter when I talk to women I like. It's so embarrassing.

[still_waiting]

I'm sorry :/ have any female friends?

[Terrell456]

Sadly, no.

[still_waiting]

Are you in college?

[Terrell456]

Yes I am.

[still_waiting]

I'm sure there's tons of girls around. Challenge yourself to strike up conversation with one.

[Terrell456]

Most of these women are gorgeous. Which means they're taken. I'll have to think of something else.

[IHateBeingaMan]

i guess girls want a guy with a proven successful track record, if a guy is past a certain age and still a virgin, never been in a relationship, what goes through a girls mind is "if no other girl has wanted him then why should I?", girls have a pre-selection mentality like that, well most of them do it seems

[Terrell456]

That's a woman I don't want.

[still_waiting]

Asker, you never know a girl is taken unless you try. And you're just gonna make excuse after excuse and end up never doing anything.
And if you were 24 with experience since you were 13 or something, you'd also be cautious about a woman who is 24 with no experience. It doesn't mean they'll hate you for it.

[Terrell456]

It's not an excuse. If a woman is beautiful, most likely she is taken already. Why bother? I already know rejection is imminent.

[still_waiting]

Ok. If you keep thinking/acting like that you'll probably be alone for a very long time.

[Terrell456]

If a woman I find attractive is single, I'll approach her. But 9 times out 10 my point gets proven. They're taken. Some women are just way too subtle.

[still_waiting]

You won't know if she's single if you don't talk to her first...

[Terrell456]

It wouldn't hurt to try. I just hope I don't sweat profusely. I have that problem around attractive women.

[still_waiting]

It'll never get better if you don't try to get used to it

[Encolpius]

Thank you for being polite, unlike that other girl. I agree with what you said. A guy who is a virgin past 24 quite possibly is shy or devoutly religious. They probably shouldn't aim for experienced women, because there will be a huge mismatch in the relationship. If a guy is shy, he should go after shy girls. Religious men usually go after religious women.

[Encolpius]

For the record, I was shy and insecure myself. Once I got over my insecurities last year, I met my girlfriend online. She is also shy, and we are a perfect match.

[emmabee11]

Metal illness... that person is a douche lol as a female though i do prefer a guy who can understand women at least and actually listens and doesn't try to "win" all the time, he does everything in his power to try to understand, paitents is key really but i don't mind if a guy is a virgin i can just teach him what to do lol but there is where the ability to listen and understand comes in too not just with life in general because if he's not open to anything during sex ether it's just like meh... lol.

[Anonymous]

I personally don't have standards on if I would date a guy that had a gf before or not or if he is a virgin or not. To me I would think that he is focused and determined on other things than finding a relationship and you have more time to find who you are and what you want and you are dependent on yourself. Those are excellent qualities. The only thing I will be scared of is will you walk away when problems come in the relationship since you never had to deal with gf/bf relationship problems before.

[Terrell456]

The only way I would end a relationship is if she cheated on me or constantly put me down.

[Opinion Owner]

Then I think you're good being single for a long time isn't weird I think that most guys end up more mature when you worth someone for a long time sometimes you lose yourself and who you are and that's not good you on the other hand have a better grasp of who you are than other people.

[whoknowsnow]

Nooooo not at all! In fact I think it's extra cute if a guy doesn't have much experience. Doesn't everyone like being the first? It wouldn't matter to a girl that actually cares for you. Only bitchier girls care about that stuff

[Terrell456]

Many of them answered on this question. Good to know which women to avoid.

[Encolpius]

I counted 3 out of 13. The overwhelming majority of the girls here said it wouldn't matter or would be a positive.

[Terrell456]

That's 3 to avoid.

[Encolpius]

You really need to stop listening to the negative people, and focus on the positive ones. I know how it feels to be that way. I'll just admit it. I'm below average "down there." That's a huge reason for my insecurities that led me to be a 30s virgin. Despite many close female friends telling me that it wasn't a big deal, despite EVERYONE I knew telling me it wasn't a big deal, I focused on the scattered random articles and forum comments that said otherwise. I believed what I read, and hated women with a burning passion because they would never love me for my perceived horrible disfigurement. It took a lot of therapy to deal with that, but I've come out with a wonderful view on life. I've confided in my girlfriend about my insecurities, and you know what? She doesn't give a flying toss about my size, because she's a virgin too, and she has ZERO expectations.

[Encolpius]

Sorry for the rant, but you really need to stop caring what some random people on the net say when they criticize you for being a virgin. You are who you are, and the right woman will love you for who you are in all your glory.

[Terrell456]

Great comments Encolpius.

[kheserthorpe]

Theoretically most don't mind.

In practice if he was really good looking he likely would have experience.

In practice most don't like guys who don't know what they're doing and aren't confident in bed.

[Terrell456]

Oh crap. I'm screwed.

[kheserthorpe]

No. You just need to build skills. So go do it.

[Terrell456]

I'm actually trying. I think my shyness is putting them off. I tend to stutter and stammer when I talk to them.

[kheserthorpe]

Stop focusing on outcomes. Focus on what you need to improve. If your goal is to stammer less and you do then that's a success whether you get her number or not.

Build your skills one step at a time.

[HookingSwan]

No. Forget society and stupid misconcieved notions. You are how you arr and you are perfect for someone out there. I like a guys personality, despite him being experienced or not.

[Simontheguy]

Thank you, you give me hope.

[Terrell456]

I've lost all hope.

[HookingSwan]

Why? Dont I mean it. Be sure of yourself. Assume who you are. Be a good person and dont justificate your personality to others. If you are comfortable in your own skin, then it's fine. For you to feel better, I'll let you know thay I am a virgin, have neer been kissed, and only now found my 1st bf, but it was so worth the wait and my high standards: he is amazing, no exagerations. Be as you are, live as you see fit. I find people that are surd of thenselves to be very sexy. I am currently working on that. Good luck and I hope I helped.

[HookingSwan]

Oh I am 21 years old by the way

[HookingSwan]

And I do like your attitude. You respect yourself and women. That will someday be valued I assure you. You are great as you are.

[Terrell456]

I know you mean well, but you don't get it.

[HookingSwan]

Ok. Care to better explain there?

[HookingSwan]

Then*

[Terrell456]

You're a woman. Guys will like you even if you have no experience. That's just my twist to it.

[HookingSwan]

I guess you can think that way, but as a sensible woman, I am telling you I dont care about it. I guess it depends on the person's point of view. Every girl van have a different opinion about it. I just dont like seeing you down about something so trivial like that. people make a lot of noise about this kind of stuff anyways. Hope you can see things differently... :)

[Terrell456]

Got it. I'm sorry if I sounded rude. This just really made me upset.

[HookingSwan]

No you didnt. It's ok. I just wanted to get where you were comming from in order to give you my best insight on the matter.

[Terrell456]

You did. Thank you.

[Brookedr]

I honestly like it. I want to feel special rather than another name on his list, you know? Once you find the right girl, she won't judge you.

[Terrell456]

How am I so sure? You know what I won't deal with this. Last thing I need is to be judged because I haven't had a girlfriend. Sorry I'm just really upset.

[Brookedr]

It'll be okay. You can't be sure, but just have faith.

[Terrell456]

Thanks. Sorry if I came off as mean.

[Brookedr]

You didn't! I understand how you feel. :)

[TrueCountryGal]

Sure, some girls are like that, but not all of us are. I'm 19, still a virgin and want to find a virgin. Its not weird at all, we just don't see the point in wasting time with people who just want to have a good time. If you are like me, you are just waiting to find the right person

[Terrell456]

That's going to be a long wait. Most women my age aren't virgins.

[TrueCountryGal]

There are some, just hard to find in a world where so many people sleep around

[Encolpius]

Best place to look in my opinion is at Church. If you aren't religious, then it will be harder to find them.

[Encolpius]

Both of you will have a much easier time finding your match. At my age, it was nothing short of a miracle that I found someone who was a perfect match for marriage AND a virgin.

[sean1234]

With me it's rather opposite... I dont like women WITH experience. Nice guys finish last? Saving the best for last? I don't think so! I'm like "girl, keep on walking"

[Terrell456]

This makes staying single a whole lot more easier.

[sean1234]

That kind of thing hasn't happened much, but even one time is annoying. It's worse when I say stuff like "I want to stay a virgin till I'm married" and she looks at me like I'm crazy.

[Terrell456]

That's your choice. If she doesn't like it, that's not your problem.

[sean1234]

Yeah sure, but it's not everyday you come across supermodel like female co-workers. I like them to be pretty as well as otherwise normal.

[Terrell456]

Wow you didn't mention that. I've seen women who are attractive but not supermodel attractive. Did they turn you down?

[sean1234]

I'm a shy guy, enough said, LOL! I never assume a girls likes me, or never use to for that matter. When I think about it, I think she did like me, but I didn't do anything, but even then, she dated another guy not to long after and I'm like oh well whatever. One day in the breakroom she said to her boyfriend, oh if your bad I won't give you sex and she said that about 4 feet from me... What little attraction I had for her completely left then.

[Terrell456]

Man I can relate to you. I have had friends tell me that a woman was checking me out or smiling at me. I just dismissed as them friendly.

[sean1234]

What does it matter if they are smiling at me when I don't see it. By the time I do see it, she is with someone else, or married even. I try not to be to negative. If I do meet a nice woman I'm kind of attracted to, I somehow never see her again.

[Internet_Monster]

Questions like this gets me...

https://i.imgur.com/3Ay8bIh.jpg

I don't care I think its cute! If I like you I will date you virgin or not

[Terrell456]

You have given me hope.

[Internet_Monster]

You welcome ! Haha wrong picture !

[Encolpius]

Gah, must not look... gonna have to go to confession now. :)

[JSmuve]

Just don't tell them you've never been in a relationship before. Dating's like marketing. Emphasize the good things and sweep the rest under the rug.

[Terrell456]

I'm always gonna tell them. This way will show which women I am better off without. It's my weeding out process.

[JSmuve]

Okay then. Well then you can't get upset when you get turned down for the lack of experience.

[Terrell456]

It won't upset me. I'll be grateful.

[anon4122]

I feel like that is when you don't get the job because of lack of experience. How can you get experience if no one will take you because you don't have experience?

[Terrell456]

Exactly!

[BC1001]

I feel the same way I stopped trying not because I didn't care but I know I'm some pretty boy girls throw themselves at. Why bother trying when I'm 100% sure the girl will say no? And it doesn't matter who I approach. I'm approaching 29 this Saturday and never kissed, hugged, or held hands with a girl. Girls only care about looks, income, penis size and the car the man drives. Women and girls are shallow hypocrites.

[BC1001]

Hey can u follow me on here wanted to send u a pm?

[Encolpius]

Try online dating. I'm not going to say that it will be a magic cure for your problems, but it will allow you to get to know women who are interested in finding someone. It beats having to approach a random stranger who may be taken or not wanting to date at all at that moment.

If you do try it, make sure that you stress nothing but positives about yourself, and leave off any hostility or resentment.

[princesswitch]

Sexual experience doesn't matter, but I do prefer a guy with some relationship experience. I don't want to teach.

[saandraaa]

that's not true at all! :) it's not important! there are a lot of girls who appreciate boys who are inexperienced! thousand times better than a manwhore

[TaylorDior]

No! That's not true at all. That's crazy sweetie. Lots of women kinda get off on being "the first" or teaching new tricks. You're ready when you're ready ;)

[BC1001]

LOL not true at all, If the guy has no experience women or girls are not gonna want anything to do with him.

[Encolpius]

If they are looking for one night stands, then sure they wouldn't have anything to do with a virgin. Women who are looking for serious relationships are far less likely to care.

[Insaan]

I am 23 and virgin. I have no mental illness and could efficiently kiss or fuck a girl if given a chance.

[ironeddie]

Whoever said that mental illness thing has absolutely no clue as to what they are talking about.

[Terrell456]

It was an older woman who said that.

[Encolpius]

25 to 29 is still young.

[Anonymous]

Yes it is all true. If you're not experienced by the time you come out of your mother's womb, you're not worth anyone's time.

[Terrell456]

Are you being serious or sarcastic?

[Encolpius]

Clearly sarcastic.

[Terrell456]

Gotcha.

[Anonymous]

Honestly, it's not just men. It's both men and women. Anyone who hasn't had any experience by 24/25 have to either be really messed up or ugly. It's not normal to still be a virgin by your mid 20s. I know a girl who is28 and she is still one! She's a pathetic loser and she is ugly too.

[Encolpius]

Your insecurities are showing.

That, or you're being sarcastic...

[Opinion Owner]

No, I honestly believe this.. Believe what you want. I don't think it's normal for someone to still be a virgin by 24/25. That's my beliefs, it has nothing to do with insecurity. By the way, my mother also taught me this, so apparently she's insecure too according to you.

[Terrell456]

Do yourself a favor and don't interact with these types of people. They don't need someone as judgmental as you around them.

[Encolpius]

Well sorry, but you and your mother are pretty shallow. People used to get married in their teens, so most of them were virgins. Now, people are getting married later and later in life. Not everyone buys into the tenets of the sexual revolution and the idea that people should have sex for the sake of having sex.

Some people choose to stay pure until marriage, and since people are getting married later, there will be older virgins. Many people choose not to wait, and that is their choice. It shows a lack of tact and maturity when you claim that those that do wait are all ugly or messed up. Perhaps you regret not waiting, and are taking it out on those who have more self control?

[Encolpius]

I'm guessing that you and your mother are feminists as well if she told you that virginity was something to be mocked.

[Sbsbdicjf]

@Encolpius You've got to realize that unless you're willing to put yourself out there, you'll never get anywhere. Also, living at the whims of someone else's worldview is a recipe for disaster.

By the way, her mother taugut her this vapid belief. Its not completely true. She made it sound like it is. Its a shaming tactic. Its designed for you to feel terrible about yourself when really you should treasure yourself. Opinions like thia contribute to a decline in the human experience. I've met lots of people, became friends with them for years and they were virgins well intp adulthood. Not a single one was messed up. I trust you aren't eirher. Just a little bit misguided.

Be brave, but make sure you find a reason within yourself to feel this way. When you do this, I promise you, you'll engage and partake in life like you never have before.

I'm proof of this.

[IHateBeingaMan]

my username explains it all why i hate the cards i was dealt with

[Terrell456]

I personally like being a man. I wouldn't want to be a woman.

[still_waiting]

Are you Transgender or just angry?

[IHateBeingaMan]

i hate how i was dealt with the cards for having to be the assertive one, to initiate

[Anonymous]

It don't mind having a virgin boyfriend. Its your choice. Bad hygiene is what I dislike.

[Terrell456]

I always keep myself clean.

[Hyped_up_on_coffee]

I personally don't but other girls might be into it

[Terrell456]

Hmph

[Hyped_up_on_coffee]

don't ask questions if you aren't going to like the answer

[Anonymous]

it seems that way sadly

[Terrell456]

Well, they're doing me a favor. I don't want to be with a woman that judgmental.