@RedThread haha :p
Both of them are definitely natural.Take it from someone who works out with guys who both do and don't take roids. There's a definite difference. Both guys are clearly on a cut cycle though.
And anyone who thinks you need steroids to get big is wrong. Look at those Greek statues. Those guys were amazing. And people didn't have steroids then.
@Gommers We cross posted. I don't know about that... are you sure?
Yeah, have a buddy that's a natural body builder for aesthetic on a cut at that current build. I was a power lifter so cutting never really applied, it was all add fuel, get power, use power, incidentally get bigger.But the only time you'll be able to tell that a guy is on roids is when his skin is super thin and you see all the veins. Guys that do physique competitions are generally on some kind of enhancement unless they have a bit of fat between their skin and their muscle.The monster cavemen and warriors were not super skinny guys, they were massive behemoths.
I'd also like to make the point that I wouldn't say that it's fair to say that real men don't use steroids. They don't enhance the results they enhance your ability to train and recover. You still have to work harder than everyone else at the gym to get the benefits, steroids just allow you to do that.Unless you're competing, there's nothing wrong with steroid use. You just need to know when to taper off. It's just a boost to your energy and recovery, that's all. We were all fed massive misinformation about the subject growing up. People that want to win the most are the ones that are going to do whatever it takes to get there. I'm not sure it's fair to call them losers, or worse, not men.
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Can u deep throat 15 inches?
Guy in posing trunks, isn't posing lol!
I don't know about that. when I was in high school I was 5'10 and about 220-225 and around 6% body fat. I didn't even know a person personally who weight less then 200 pounds.
@dudeman Sure you were buddy, all natty too I bet.
yeah of course. played football, wrestled and ran track. that's not that big man not with good genetics though it probably was the upper limit of what I could reach naturally. I'm just a naturally bigger framed guy. I got thick wrist and big feet. some people are just bigger then others.
@dudeman You would have had the BMI of 32.3, the limit for obesity is 30. I get that you're a troll but try at least a little bit harder.
well yeah technically I'm overweight but that doesn't mean anything in terms of body fat percentage.
I get that you're a skinny little kid and have to train really hard just to be 160 pounds but some of us couldn't weight less then 180 if we starved ourselves. its called good genetics.
@dudeman 5'10, 225 with 6% body fat. All clean of course, and that obviously "isn't even big"You have a sad life lol.
how so? like I said some of use are naturally big.
@dudeman i25.photobucket.com/.../IMG_2154.jpg That's a 5'10 guy who's 225. Also his fat percentage is definitely higher than 6. That means that you would have to naturally have even more muscles than him lmao. And there isn't a single natural thing about him. You are a terrible fucking troll lmao. Also I'm taller than you so by your logic that probably makes me your superior.
I look nothing like that. maybe that's why people are surprised to find out what I weight
lol that guy is 5'6 and 285. no wonder I look nothing like that.
@dudeman Yeah you're not a roided up freak, you're just a normal fatass.
look up frank gore that guys is 5'9 and 220 I wouldn't consider him to be a big person.
are you awareof tinder study of the men women consistently slept with?
And some artificial testosterone in their bloodstream?
@19MK34 I'm not talking about muscle