yes lonely and depressed.
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I feel like a lot of pop feminist culture is designed to scare women of a lot of men pre-emptively, or it teaches them to have certain demands over male behavioral patterns that most men aren't willing to put up with. I'm talking, those kinds of women who discourage men from holding doors open for them because 'they don't need a man' to do that, etc. Those kinds of horrible harpies influence and manipulate feminist academia in pockets here & there. There's a lot of what I would call alarmist if not downright deceptive use of rape and sexual assault statistics used to stress the inherent oppression of the female state of being. This can make men seem like a bunch of fuckin' creeps and misogynists to someone whose prone to generalization & tribalism, which is a problem because I see more people fall victim to both of those things than rise above them in a broad sense of society-my anecdotal experience with most people being relatively level headed and individualistic notwithstanding.
But even though its easy to just blame feminism on this social mechanism, I really don't think that's reasonable. Getting women the right to vote was what created the very concept of feminism & I definitely don't think that anyone is born too stupid or irresponsible to handle their right to vote once they are of voting age. This word that the actual man haters and scared or fretful women use to make their scaremongering seem instead like a responsible & measured response for womens' advocacy has a very complicated history. We can talk about how words evolve and how definitions can change but what the dictionary definition of that word is reflects more accurately the struggle of people who had a legitimate evil they could & had to quell than these people who fight the concept of rape, assault, or coercion as though there is anyl end to that in sight for anyone of any gender. I don't take seriously people who want to police sexuality under the auspices of stopping or preventing the inevitability of rape, when they are perfectly content to ignore or at least obfuscate and give little attention to the very real institutional threats to women you see in countries like Saudi Arabia and China where men very explicitely control and physically abuse women. Nobody else should either, but it just makes you sound so much better when you're the loudest advocate against rape or terrorism or anything like that.
bush got so much of His abuses ignored claiming to be on an anti-terror crusade.
Yes. Women in the west nowadays have fallen victim to the propaganda that they need to have it all. That it is possible to have it all. And that it is incredibly progressive to abandon their biological needs and desires.
Naturally women would be less happy, if they can't reach any of those:
- Women can't be men. No matter how much feminists try to make men and women equal and try push women in male-dominated spheres. The women will need to compete with men who are on their hometurf. Socially and biologically. A losing battle.
- It is also a losing battle when women are told they can have a full-time career and children. No. You can't. You need to invest time into motherhood and that means you need to do sacrifices with your career.
- And last but not least western women are socially pressured to go up against their natural instincts. It's absolute needless to explain why this is not a good idea and will make many women unhappy.
this is an absolutely stupid and suggestive unbalance question without any foundation
that is only motivated from only one point of view . that implies only one side of an argument .
eliciting and baiting only a specific kind of intended answer .
further debased by using a contrived altered edited videos to ridicule insult and inflame
legitimate documented discussions in a context of extreme derision and vulgarity
appealing to the lowest obnoxious perverse common denominator of respondents
obvious extremist CLICK BAIT TRASH . by an Anon (ofc) of extreme prejudice .
omg who knew . what else is new othis is an absolutely stupid and suggestive unbalance question without any foundation
that is only motivated from only one point of view . that implies only one side of an argument .
eliciting and baiting only a specific kind of intended answer .
further debased by using a contrived altered edited videos to ridicule insult and inflame
legitimate documented discussions in a context of extreme derision and vulgarity
appealing to the lowest obnoxious perverse common denominator of negative biased respondents
obvious extremist CLICK BAIT TRASH . by an Anon (ofc) of extreme prejudice .
omg who knew . what else is new on GaG?
simply . disgusting . coprophagian GaG?
simply . disgusting . coprophagia
fancy words don't make you seem smart cause you aren't. just bitter and weird. and other than insults you magnanimously failed to debunk any of the arguments. studies and psychiatric pills sales scream more than ever the sadness of post feminism women.
Commas, use them. Periods, use them.
The extremist, yes I can imagine they are lonely but hell I think the mgtows and the feminist are both lonely as hell and secretly want each other but to chicken throw up their white flags until someone taps out. Well nobody is tapping out cause their ego is too damn big so in the end the way I see it, both of them are suffering from this as whole and its making society suffer as well cause both are ruining the design or order of relationships and the structure of family. These feminist are mad cause they penis envy and want to be tough and act like men, these mgtows are mad cause they feel like they no longer have role, feel unwanted, and just want women to go back to wanting them. Either way you're both mad, you're both suffering, and you're both depressed but you won't wake up and admit it. As for the rest of us normal people, we out here dating, falling in love, getting into relationships, getting married, and having kids.. so continue staying on the sidelines if you want too, ain't no body asking you join the game.
I'm tired of people trying to create a casual relationship between the number of unhappily single women and their affinity for feminism. There MAY be a correlation but it isn't causal. A lot of women are still getting married - the majority are! Women are probably more likely to be feminist if they are college educated. But guess what? You are more likely to find a husband if you are college educated, which proves my point. The myth of the lonely feminist isn't actually true. Sure there are women who don't want to be single, but a lot of them DO find a husband. The only difference between from the past and now is level of education and social status. Women can achieve much more and become independent earlier in life. Which would cause the national age women get married to go up - both men AND women are focused on careers and less on babymaking and family rearing. Let's use some logic here people
I don't think its anyone's personal belief, but the way everyone goes about living their life. The problem is that what society is telling people to do - flat out doesn't work. Women are much more apt to try and meet those expectations placed on them, career and family wise, but literally, ain't nobody got time to accomplish it all.
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I believe with equal rights comes great responsibility. You can't expect most men to be the aggressive, assertive, domineering, sweep you off your feet gender anymore. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Well... some women can, but that is beside the point. Now that women don't necessarily depend on men, now that men have to be far more cautious about what they do, say, and come off to women, then it only makes sense that women meet men somewhere in the middle when it comes to making a connection.
There is a huge double standard going on right now, and I feel that it is the growing pains that come with equal rights and the feminist movement. On one hand, we have women who want an equal say, who want to focus on their careers, who want to be treated with "respect" and dignity, but on the other hand, we have those same women craving a man who leads them around, who asserts his will over them, even though they claim they desire equality. If we were truly equal, we would work together and not battle each other. It wouldn't be about what asserting dominance, a battle of wills, of what we can get from other people. It would be about a free and open giving of our genuine selves without any need to fill a hole within.
There need to be more realistic expectations when it comes to dating and relationships. I get it, people are attracted to what they are attracted to. But I think we as people make a whole lot of assumptions. We think we want something but in reality, it isn't what we need. We want to be excited by those who have an edge, but are those types of people really right for us? What truly is important when it comes to long-term fulfillment in relationships?
Until we can come to terms that there is a disconnect between the traditional views and the emergence of gender equality in dating, courtship, and relationships, many people are going to be sidelined.
The rest has to do with a culture of instant gratification, which has been on the rise far longer than modern feminism. However, when you combine it with women's empowerment, we have women waiting far longer to have healthy long-term relationships and starting a family, and women who refuse to work things out in a relationship when it is just far easier to leave/divorce and sleep around. Guys too, but usually it was traditionally the woman who kept moral standards in check by regulating their sexuality.
And then, of course, more men are opting out of settling down because of how much easier it is for them to just get laid by a "liberated" sex-positive women. Many men do have the ultimate goal of settling down and building something substantial though, but of course, they too have their desires, so when a woman offers it up, it is much easier to be a fuckboy than it is to wait until there is commitment. Some men are literally becoming spoiled. haha! It takes two, no doubt about that, but men are like kids in a candy shop. Tell them they some of the candy is free, they just need to check to see which ones, and they will be all over the store looking around. Some guys will hold off because they know it isn't healthy and they want to only go for that special one, but if they came across one that was free, they'd proba
probably take it anyways.
Sex isn't unhealthy. I am also not saying casual sex is unhealthy. What I am saying is that when a culture embraces it to such a high degree, the intimate connections we used to make, the ones with substance and meaning, no longer become as appealing.
/That/ is what instant gratification is about. The same goes for fast food, pornography, or any other replacement for genuine bonds with our fellow humans. And let us face it, what bond is deeper than a bond between a man and a woman coming together to build a family, that takes a part of each of them to create something is wholly unique and new?
The very first waves of the MGTOW revolution are just now hitting the shore. The tsunami is coming in, but it's still a ways off.
Women have no idea yet, but they will.
Very soon, there will be such a massive decline in marriage rates that women will no longer be able to ignore it. They don't see it now because now they're all in their 20's having casual sex, they're not even looking for a husband right now, they're riding the carousel and having fun.
They're about to find out that punishing a whole generation of boys is going to hit girls the hardest.
@Bananaman117 I wouldn't really say I'm MGTOW... I just seem to be going the MGTOW path because of how desperate and off-putting women are at 30.
I can immediately tell when:
1- they just want to use me for something, like babies, security, quit their job, leave their marriage, the list is nearly endless the things a girl thinks they can get from me, like they're the one in charge, no sunshine, you are not.
2- Girl is desperate, she has been dumped before and is seeking a man, ANY man, hey you're a man, pay attention to MEeeEEEeE
3- Validation, I can tell when a girl is just flirting with me to make another guy jealous who she thinks she has a better shot with. Its a bit of a test to see if the other guy will be spurred into acting out of jealously. Those girls are not relationship material and I laugh. Like I'm not going to instant NOPE a girl I barely know flirting around to get a rise. Not LTR material.
@Boredguy112 Yeah, that's how the vast overwhelming majority of men feel. Most MGTOW have never been on a website, never looked up any talking points, never heard a debate. They may not even be aware of the MGTOW movement, or may have a negative opinion on it.
But if you look around at women and you feel disgusted and disappointed and disillusioned, congratulations, you're MGTOW.
The male-female relationship was fragile and complex before feminism. Feminism has completely destroyed that relationship and fully emotionally detached women from men so I don’t believe they actually become lonely without men. I don’t think women give a crap at all about men and prefer not be around them when they are not needed for some utility. I think feminists/women find themselves having to work the full time grind, pay for all the crap, pay a lot of taxes, get/pay someone to fix their crap, loath their live-in lazy-ass beta male feminist boyfriend and/or look for the ideal mate as portrayed by the media, paste over some crow’s feet and sags, and have determined that this sucks and it feels a little lonely at their perceived top. So it is the reality of having it all, and doing it all alone that is the loneliness and not the absence of a man. Self medication helps for awhile however.
Couldn't be more wrong that women don't want to be around men. But they have to be "real men" or... rather, men with worldly experience.
When you're 18 and a male you're pretty much invisible to women, that will change.
@Boredguy112 Ah poor me! wha wha
Like... I know you're being sarcastic but I don't know if its directed at me or yourself without being able to size you up, lol.
I don't know. But I would bet, that it ensures, that guys will not approach women, because who know, what is she like. For some of them is just looking at them rape and we live in culture, despite what feminists say, where if you're a girl and accuse a guy from rape, people would just believe you. Not all, but those, who would like some proof or evidence, would be discarded as trash.
So, it’s only rational not to talk to a woman. Nobody wants their life being ruined.
Dating and so on is therefore less likely. How it works there, I don’t know. But I would guess, that there is a good chance that some guy might randomly bump into some girl, who would then describe in length her experience (her side of what happened, perceived through lens of her personality, yet without this warning) on some blog. And then some site like buzzfeed picks it up.
I would not wonder, if there would be some guys, who just don’t want to take that risk. Probably because I am one of them.
Yup. The truth is both men and women have become more picky. Both men and women want their perfect someone yet they do nothing to be that person that matches their perfect someone. You can be a fat lazy hag that nags and is negative and expect Prince charming with the royal jewels to come off his white horse, rescue you, and ask you to marry him. Same with guys, you can be a fat lazy blob that plays video games all day and treat women like trash and expect some hot young thing to come and ride you until dusk and want to have your babies.
I'm really not that picky. My personality type is just the one that is most capable of picking up when people lie. The amount of lying by women these days is off the charts and I find it hard to trust them. (psst don't tell them I'm able to tell when they're full of it! :))
Women are the real victims of Feminism. Feminism is conceived to destroy the nuclear family, to destroy the relationship between men and women, and especially the main identity of women. It overlooks the psychological and biological differences between men and women, denies gender roles and makes marriage less popular. Feminism hasn't brought anything positive, only more conflict among men and women and it mean fall of civilization. It's obvious and clear when you look at the society!
- The research on this is pretty clear, women are more unhappy now than ever before and are becoming more and more unhappy every year.
- The average woman tends to happiest in life when she has her own family, with a man she loves and grows old with.
- Birth rates are lower than ever, divorce is higher than ever, fewer people getting married, people getting married later and later in life, Men less willing to commit than ever before...
- Narcissism among women is higher than ever and growing higher every year, this is anti social behavior that leads to unhappiness.
I've been single for over 30 years. I haven't even as much as been touched by anyone in that long much less had a relationship. And I have my freedom, do what I want, when I want and I don't have to answer to anybody. I don't go to bars, clubs or whatever you want to call it looking for anyone. I don't go to social gatherings and keep to myself and I'm perfectly fine. On the flip side, I see this all the time, females on social media like facebook with thousands of friends added and they can't stop posting me me me I I I my my my look at me, it's constant all the time attention begging and posting about their depression need to lose weight their breakups and needs. Meanwhile I have probably maybe 40 friends I hardly every talk to in person. I know how to cook, I know how to clean, I know how to do just about anything I need. And I am MGTOW, I was MGTOW long before the reference MGTOW ever came along and I am perfectly fine that way and I have over 30 years to prove that point.
Oh, and MGTOW 101 is one of my favorite youtube MGTOW channels if not the most favorite.
After about 35 days of searching... I finally found my inner peace!
I think men and women are both lonely because the genders have never been further apart... I honestly don't care... I'm just happy and content.
I'll just say this... there are a lot of unhappy people out there. Women might be more social but I do think they have a harder time single than men aged 25-35. Time flies... I work, I fix things (its quite boring without my SO to break shit, honestly) but everything is humming along just fine.
Men are emotional rocks... I do have emotions... but in the long run they level out. We're built for going long stretches of time alone, like working on an oil rig or being deployed somewhere. It comes naturally, its like a hunting instinct.
Women to me seem unhappy always searching for a man to emotionally connect with. They almost all come off as desperate as a 30yr old guy. I couldn't put my finger on it for a long time but there it is.
Actually I think most of them want to be alone, by their feminist attitudes, as long as they can get plenty of male attention and have a big group of girlfriends. The loneliness panic only sets in when the male attention dries up and the circle of girlfriends have moved on to other things and the woman with the reflection faded, is jaded beyond compatibility.
Well yeah, with how quick these feminists are to cry rape even over something like the "male gaze" is it any wonder that men are more hesitant now? Add to the fact that women are treated as superiors to us men by law but at the same time still have the tradational "soft flower" social status.
You're expected to open doors for them, pay for the first date, etc despite them being "equals." Either you're equal or not bi***!
You tell me...
http://www.oprah.com/sp/new-midlife-crisis.html
''I wanted to reassure her that someone would show up. But later that night, as I scrolled through my phone, I realized that every single man our age that I know either wants kids the old-fashioned way or doesn't want any more kids, or doesn't want to be tied down, or is insane. For her, and for so many others, that someone may not show up. According to Gallup, 16 percent of Gen Xers are single or never married, compared to 10 percent of boomers and 4 percent of our grandparents' generation. Most of these people say they still want to get married but just haven't found the right person. Many are experiencing what psychologists call ambiguous loss.''
As a guy who would consider himself to technically be a feminist, I do believe that feminism, in the recent years, has created a divided to an extent between some women and some men. Although, I think that divided only affects the men who don't understand which feminism truly is, and the women who claim to be feminists but in reality are radical feminists or extremists (which many wouldn't actually consider to feminists at all). To the men who don't have an askewed perspective on feminism, and to the feminists who aren't condescending or misandristic, I don't believe there is much of a divide.
You got down voted by two guys because those guys have experience... just sayin'
You're a bit misguided and I feel a bit bad for you. Best of luck to you man. All I can say is trust your instincts.
Well no. Feminism is just an idea. Although, heavily distorted from its original goals, it's still not something every woman is equipped with when they are born
I will never be able to convincingly prove that our today's, call it: mainstream media, is a possible root of this problem. Not this particular kind of media on its own, rather, many people for some odd reason take it for granted whatever they hear on the TV/radio or read in some online not-so-reputable newscast.
So you see all sorts of bandwagons starting up. Among others, the one that insists on marriage being a meaningless institution and yade yade yade.
In and of itself, that's not a problem. What is a problem, too many people taking this shit a little too seriously..
Eh, if you're interested in starting and family and not getting screwed over its kind of a serious thing.
These are major social institutions ingrained into the social contract and its basically been replaced with tinder and smashing bar girls.
@Boredguy112 Do you seriously mean to tell me that you won't start a family when you are Potentially getting screwed over by something you are not even completely sure about?
"basically been replaced with tinder and smashing bar girls" it's been there for decades, nowadays it got a new label "tinder" aaand the bandwagon goes off.
A lot of logical errors come from generalising too eagerly.
It was always there, but has become the dating norm.
I don't see how you can say I'm not sure. I'm sure of a lot of things. I'm sure that if I'm married all the power goes to the woman. Read comments like "One word keeps my man in line, HALF!" I was listening to the radio and a wife was on there saying how she kept her 17 year marriage going: by digging through her husbands phone so help him god he ever had a contact in there who was a women. Its hilarious. Really its just because the husband has been completely broken and has no power of his own. It also means she is unlikely very attracted to him.
There are circumstances/values/personality traits I would still marry... I'm just not seeing it out there. Some of this might be geographical based on where I live ATM.
@Boredguy112 Indeed.
I always find those "radio shows" too theatrical. You find the case that sparks the most intrigue and then you make people believe this is 100% true.
This "half" business is not at all what it sounds like. After all, if it were that simple , many people in that particular field of law enforcement would be looking at some other branch of work.
In fact, she is only entitled to assets obtained during the marriage. She has no claim for anything before or after. There is also a principle of separation: namely either party gets to decide what their separated assets are. Neither has no say on the other's decision, but I'm not sure if that's how it works in the states.
TL;DR The "half" thing is overblown. Read a specific legislation, don't take cues from what you hear on the radio.
Watch out with the MGTOW propaganda. Their views are extremely biased.
BUT it is true. The cryopreservation industry is booming right now because there are not enough single educated men and comparably educated single women can't find a partner. Basically women are trying to buy extra time by preserving their eggs according to some study by Marcia Inhorn which is ultimately leading to extreme loneliness
Interesting gender split on the poll.
Feminism has not impacted my dating life at all. I am a traditional guy who likes traditional gender roles (except any aspect that is demeaning to my partner; I want an equal partner and I respect her because I want her to respect me.) Feminism and its associated drivel never impinges on my dating relationships.
Women in your dating age bracket were raised with different values, that is why.
I like to joke I have the wisdom of a 75 year old man, and that was when I was 25! so yeah.
No. Feminism has made feminists more lonely than ever. Speaking from experience, there are loads of women who themselves are opposed to feminism and enjoy being women. Then again, I live in a strongly conservative area and avoid liberal hotspots in the megacities at all costs.
And just for the record, MGTOW is just as bad as feminism, and just as feminists don't represent all women, MGTOW doesn't represent all men.
I sometimes think the over reactions that feminist show against the opposite sex, in which I think is pretty minor and wouldn't mind a guy doing to me such as touching my back or hitting on me would not be considered sexual harassment compared to what feminist say, makes them more afraid to approach women. I would love it for guys to approach me especially if they're cute. Kind of frustrating.
Naaaah , women , by nature , do not give a shit about men anyway , human females value their own gender far above males , in fact most women that are single , choose to be & want men to stay the F away from them. Females have their ultra close inter -female friendships , are happier celibate , therefore men are surplus to their requirements , unless it's goods & services from the said male , women are coldly indifferent to men !!!
I worked in a male prison for 15 years it houses inmates from super Mac down to minimum security
As for as sexural asaults go if you go on any college campus of the same size and population you will find more sexural asaults there then in prison. And as far as pay goes for doing the same job as my male counterparts the women were paid on average a dollar less on the hour.
Thank you for the compliment
I think that it is funny how feminists promote free-love and polyamory, but readily accuse any awkward young dude of harassment and ruin his life.
Both the sexual liberators and sexual puritans at the same time.
For me, it's super simple. If she identifies as a feminist, I run away.
They are universally hateful and I have never experienced it otherwise.
And women: most men (>50%) agree with me.
The point is: women, wake up!
Most of you are fond of feminism because you are a female, ergo "fem-inism."
But you do not realize that this is a basic Saul Alinsky rules-for-radicals tactic.
It is just like naming your organization "Black Lives Matter," then asking some random dude on the street: "Do you support black lives matter?" Unless you're politically involved, who the hell is gonna be like "nah man I don't."
90% of women are the happiest when they have a relationship and children.
Feminism is just a way to convince you that men hate you and you should feel ashamed if you prefer a traditional life over a career.
But your biology is the same. You can't help (for 90% of women) but want to have a child.
But you're 30 years old and you repulse every man you talk to because you preach at him. He just wants a pleasant woman, he doesn't want to put you down; but ya treat him like shit anyways because "patriarchy."
Thus, you're miserable.
I don't think feminism has made women more lonely, per se. It's that a lot of women want too much from men these days.
I'm in a relationship, so this no longer applies to me... but a lot of women are petty, too judgmental and act like they are too good for most men.
Social media says a lot about women. See how they act on social media and it says a lot about them. That's why they are single.
i don't think so. most women don't want mgtow guys anyways. they're generally... losers.
I'm a mgtow and avoiding women has allowed me to succeed in my career and save a shit load of money. The losers are the men who choose to trust modern day women, have children with them and get married, only to end up losing their children and having half of their live savings taken away by the woman and the courts. That's what I call being a loser.
What's crazy?
listen to how this man sounds, pathetic and sad. They really are losers and I always wondered why they think we care about not dating them. Women need to be careful of them though, they are bitter and dangerous.
You're right, because irl they are still trying to have a girlfriend, sucking up to us or doing creepy shit for your attention.
@azzntittiz Yes, women, be careful of those dangerous MGTOW men out there. They don't want to be used as tools and give their life savings away to opportunistic gold digging women, DANGEROUS! lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaSy8yy-mr8
Shaming assaults are the typical tactic of feminazis. Real MGTOW men are aware of this and laugh at your mindless droning about "what men truly need or feel". Unless you've recently had your penis and testicles removed, I sincerely doubt you know what being a man is like. I don't wander around spouting about what it's like being a woman, simply because I'm not one, I leave that to my wife to comment on.
The angry comments all self-righteous fem-nazis' love to point out as "unstable" is what is called "Red-Pill Rage". The initial stage for most men who finally come out of the trance of female control and realize what a gynocentric society has been doing to them since birth. It's understandable that such a one would be quite angry. It calms with time.
@Charleslvajr Bullcrap, all of what you just said.
@Charleslvajr You're spot on, femininazi's know it too. Feminizi's know they'll never be liked and they'll never be loved. They also know that MGTOW is true and has taken away their power.
@ThisAndThat lmfao
@azzntittiz Wait, wait, wait - I'm supposed to get offended by something here, what was it? Oh yeah, bullcrap. You know, cows have crap to. Why does it always have to be about bulls crap. Cows are entitled to as much crap as the bulls are and their crap is softer and easier to spread to.
Probably same as before.
Before women were not in the workforce and they were forced to keep quiet when they faced mistreatment and harassment, and they were sold to other men like a bag of thrash under the name of marriage, and they were unhappy with kids in marriages they didn't want.
Now, they are unhappy and lonely because of many insecure single dudes like the ones on GAG blaming every shit on feminism.
The answer of course is yes, but few women have the honesty to acknowledge it for obvious reasons. Women are less happy and fulfilled today than 50 years ago. It's not up for debate.
www.nytimes.com/2009/05/26/opinion/26douthat.html
Oh goodness, I've been gone for like 5 months and you fuckers are still obsessed with feminism or blaming feminism? Lol
Did you know that it's because of feminists that Blockbuster went out of business? Yup. Look it up ;)
I thought that was because of men. Everything that happens is men's' fault, isn't that the truth? Or the narrative or whatever?
@Charleslvajr not on gag apparently lol
You know I wouldn't even be a part of this conversation if there wasn't some 18 year old barely out of diapers females who are way to arrogant for their own good. It's like what females say, men can't tell us what it's like to be women, but somehow 18 yr old useless fem turds think they have it figured out what being a man is.
@Charleslvajr you're obsessing now
How do you figure that?
@Charleslvajr I've personally yet to meet crazy feminists that blame men. And I live in liberal Chicago
I've met them several times but I go to talks and deal with an open public setting with nauseating regularity. I'm trying to weed out that public contact it's causing a distressing amount of distrust and dislike for females in my psyche.
Read my convo with pink anon and you'll see some of the trends I'm talking about.
@Charleslvajr online people tend to be worse than real people
As do I really but I've met her like in real life, I'm not kidding. At least I've met you and a few other ladies who I chat will on occasion that make me think that there may just be a few females left in the world.
@Charleslvajr still in the minority
I still give you props, even if we don't always agree I know you'll be discussing from an honest point of view. Cheers
Yep, brought it upon themselves
Quick, find a man to blame
I guess its a good thing that I'm not the average stupid teen running around to ever hot looking guys, and that Im asexual 😂😂😂 so i just looking for someone i can get along with, which i have and we are planing to stay together.
Feminism has not only made women more lonely, it has actually resulted in them being even more objectified and misrepresented than before. The feminist movement needs to go back to the drawing board.
I'm not a hardcore liberal man hating feminist, however I do believe that women deserve equal pay, etc. thing is, I've NEVER HAD A BOYFRIEND.
“I'm not a hardcore liberal man hating feminist” well then you are lying to yourself and should let it all out.
@Passinggas LOOOL
No.. As long as you aren't a radical feminist who is bitter about everything, then you can have whatever you want and be happy, the world is your oyster.
Feminism promotes such disgusting things and we are always held to their destructive standard. It's impalpable.
Your sir are correct imagine a woman getting equal pay, or even a job that was traditionaly held by a man. And I tell you the never of some of this women demanding not to have unwanted sexural contact from men and boys. And why shouldn't they pay higher prices for the same item just because it is coloured pink and pushed on them since birth. And the pill why should the tax payer fund that the should just keep there legs shut right. Besides that money has to go for the vigara and cialsus. Because not all of them will keep their legs shut right.
@Jennifer398 men are 4 times more likely to commit suicide than women. men are 20 times more likely to die at work than women. Young men in big cities are paid less than women on average. Men are die sooner. Men have lower enrollment rates than women. Men are sexually assaulted in prison. Men have higher rates of incarceration. The money that men earn for doing DIFFERENT work to women is EARNED. They, on average, work a higher paying job in engineering or tech or farming, and thus deserve a higher paying check.
Yea, and I'm none of things things and I can change my own oil (:.
@Jennifer398 I want you to show me a job, in the regular life sectors, not hollywood contracts, where a man is paid more than a woman in blue collar work where experience, time with the company, hours worked and performance are equal. I would love to see that. It's illegal by law. Equal pay for equal work is the law. What you are demanding is equal results not equal opportunity and if you aren't putting in the same 60 hour week as I am, fuck your results.
Women have been pissy at the world since they got equal rights. 3rd wave feminism is just their excuse... like a child having a temper tantrum over something that's their own fault.
Well, MGTOW is the male equivalent of 3rd Wave Feminism... So you have your sources all wrong... but yes. Feminism (Cultural Marxism) has depressed and destroyed white countries and is coming for the world via Globalism.
it is? i thought it was the healthy response to toxic femininity. did these men lie to me?
Yes. THey did. MGTOW is also Cultural Marxism just like Feminism.
I would give you examples here but I'm not trying to get flagged by angry MGTOW/Feminists. MGTOW is precisely the most unhealthy reaction to Feminism that there could possibly be and it further perpetuated the problems which Feminism has helped to cause.
MGTOW is NOT cultural marxism. MGTOW want to be left alone, they don't give a damn what you think or what yo want, they want to go their own way. Keep what they've worked for and enjoy their lives without the demands of a never satisfied harpy just looking for excuses to claim victimhood.
And just to make a side note, I am married, actually happily, and it has lasted 14 years, but I've been red pilled.
@Charleslvajr MGTOW do NOT want to be "left alone". If that were the case they would leave others alone, but they don't. They PROSELYTIZE. They never shut up with their MGTOW Evangelism. That is the same argument that the LGBT community used that they wanted to be "left alone" to do as they wish in their private bedrooms... THe problems is (like MGTOW) they do not want to be left alone because they do not leave others alone. THey have PARADES in the streets with little underage boys dressed in @ssless leather chaps straddling grown men in purple glitter thongs. MGTOW fail to realize how they are like LGBT and Feminism in nearly every single way.
Your "MGTOW Monks" are essentially "Sex Negative Feminist Cat ladies".
Your MGTOW PUA (pick up artists) are equivalent to "Sex Positive Feminists."
MGTOW touts multiculturalism just like the far left as well as they are a movement of men of multiple races. And YES, MGTOW is a movement BECAUSE of the fact that they recruit online.
@Charleslvajr So you can just stop right nor pretending that you can "school" me about MGTOW. I have watched the movement for YEARS. I've probably seen more MGTOW videos even from non-mainstream MGTOW than you have.
Yeah right, LOL, years. You've gotten so OLD. So many years of experience. You go girl. You've got men all figured out. You know men better then men. Whoo hoo. I love women who know more about men then men do. Tell me all about it oh guru of the male psyche. Tell a man all about being a man.
What MGTOW parades? I've never even heard of one. Gay pride parades, yup. Slut parades, yup. Vagina hat parades, yup. Never heard of a MGTOW parade.
MGTOW don't do PUA. That's an entirely different thing. But you know better about it. You've been "watching" for YEARS.
MGTOW is not a movement. They don't press for political change in the least. That's the character of a movement. Either that or you have a bowel problem. That's possible.
@Charleslvajr Yes, the do. I have observed them for years, long enough to know everything about MGTOW, ever dark corner of the movement.
Oh, I'm sure. Like being male, you know everything there is to being a guy. Thanks. It's unfortunate that men don't know anything about being male anymore unless there's some feminazi explaining it to us.
@Charleslvajr men don't know anything about being men anymore because you're a bunch of soyboys these days.
L I T E R A L L Y S O Y B O Y
I'm pre-soy boy and it's vegan bitches that have been making that happen.
@Charleslvajr you don't like feminists, yet you date vegans? Counter intuitive. 😔
Wait a minute. You were trying to be insulting. I forgot that's the only strength teenagers have today. Okay, okay. Gimme a minute, I'll try to work up being indignant for you... nope. Can't do it. Oh well...
When did I say I dated Vegans? Wow, you are out there.
Studies are showing its being disconnected of extended family and interactions with church and community groups that is driving isolation.
Humans are tribal. Romantic pairing had never satisfied our desire for (non sexual) intimacy.
MGTOW is trash first of all. You should be looking into the Alt-Right instead.
Lol don't search in the trash, go to the dump instead, much better shit there!
Just because someone is against the Alt-Right doesn't make them an anti-white. It's controlled opposition, controlled by (((them))). It's meant to fool you into thinking that it's a real alternative, and it attracts a lot of idiots. Many Alt-Righters for example are also dumb enough to be fooled into supporting Trump and Putin. If you paid attention to what Trump does vs what he says you'd know that he isn't on our side, and the same goes for Putin if you ask any real Russian nationalist. Don't be fooled.
Many in the Alt-Right including Richard Spencer are also self-confessed Zionists.
are you 101?
No.
Had feminism made a higher number of men more lonely and depressed, though? Certainly.
well the therapists, the antidepressants and the suicides tell a different story. as for men getting sadder well they are the more emotional gender it is to be expected.
@TruthHurt. the way things were? You mean women not being recognized by the government as legitimate citizens of the nation (no means of legal identification, no right to vote, no right to have an income of their own or way to not be 100% dependent on their husband), and essentially being forced to cook/clean/fuck their husbands all day is all that different from being a sexual slave?
@TruthHurt studies so that the genders are equal in intelligence. women are smarter in the middle range and usually smarter in emotional intelligence and reading subtle cues, men TEND to be more prominent in the extremes. extremely high or extremely low intelligence. as for being more emotional guys are way more emotional. women need being loved. you need to love and protect. thats your purpose. we can get over a breakup with a good shopping therapy, i know guys who cry like bitches over the same girl for over 3 years. suicides due to being cheated/abandoned is higher in men than in women which ties not only to men's more emotional nature but also their more fragile ego.
Seems like rumors spread by single dudes to make themselves feel better about being single...
Men are the lonely and depressed ones, women are fine, it's pretty easy to see that especially when you look at other polls on here
Highly disagree. Like everything on these gender issues, there are differences.
Man are HAPPY with the loneliness, or at least find it much more tolerable, and thus don't go to such great lengths trying to fill a void within them with parties, road trips, blah blah. These social links for women just don't cut it. They actually want a quality relationship with a guy. Women are social, all while pretty much hating each other the whole time.
I value social life and I value the things a girl brings into your life, but I'm just saying... how many times have you cried the whole night and ordered a bottle of wine for delivery? Cause thats the kind of stuff women are doing when they're single for a long time. Women are just VERY good at spinning the social narrative in their favor.
In a way lonely shaming is just trying to pluck at your nerves.
@Boredguy112 I've never met a guy who was happy with loneliness lol. If that was true then why are there 10 times as many men on dating sites than women? Single men are more desperate for women than the other way around, it's obvious
@frozenhorizon Those men are generally "thirsty" and insecure about dating and sex and would ask out a statute if they were drunk enough to come netflix and chill.
Women use these men, who are not really LTR material at all, for validation. "See all the men chasing me? I have so many options" Almost all girls are doing this these days BUT ALMOST ALL OF THEM ARE SINGLE.
If they had so many options why can't any of them get a relationship?
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@Boredguy112 they an get a relationship, they're just happy not being in one... ? I don't get your reasoning sorry lol
@Boredguy112 That still seems to point to the fact that women are not lonely even though they are single, yet men are...
Being a married man of? advanced? age, I support what these guys are saying. The woman I married is of singular quality, I haven't met any women since who show the same stability and concern for doing their part in this world while I do mine. If things were different and I didn't have this woman, MGTOW would be my lifestyle for the exact reasons postulated above.
Of course if you talk to MGTOW they are going to spin this. They want women to change to something more amenable. But if men are so happy why this constant MGTOW whining?
No, I wouldn't say so.
All the shitty choices women make, including feminism, stem from their nature not the other way around.
The choices we make are heavily influenced by logc/reason, emotion, and environment. Two of which do stem from our nature. But considering the vast, countless amount of factors that reside within our environment, its unreasonable to simply deduce your argument to "yeah its just natural lol don't think anything of it." If our "nature" was so predominantly impactful, as you seemingly believe it to be, we wouldn't have such a wide spectrum of varying humans. All men would think alike, all men would have the same work ethics, all men this, all men that. This would apply to women as well. But evidently, this is not the case. Not even remotely close. Very few things in this world are as simply as people apparently make it out to be.
I think feminism is different for everyone woman. Sometimes it is temporary because some women enjoy feminism more than others. Loneliness beats abuse any day.
Unfortunately too many posts and comments like this is clickbait for very jaded men and women. This is way too extreme, it lost its humor very quickly
Imma just leave this here
Yeah I would think there are more single feminists now, guys would rather be single than deal with them until they find an old fashion woman
Mate, any video that's start off with "women are all lonely, miserable cunts", ceases to be credible. That's just a fact. But nice try.
Its made some women more retarded
Don't believe MGTOW propaganda. They are just guys with inflated egos.
incorrect.
They are men who are in serious emotional distress, often anger and/or emotional pain as a result of having been put through the meat grinder, often repeatedly, at the hands of women and/or Feminists. Often by the very women whom they have their closest bonds with, like their mothers, daughters, wives.
I doubt that, men still date them for the pu. ssy. 😂
He's referring to the women who choose a career over marriage and motherhood.
Oh then, they did great. 😂😂 tbh im not a feminist and I will never be one because I dont like how it is in 2017. I dont want to get married or have kids.
I know a few women like you. They are now in their 40's and 50's and they are lonely and miserable. But no skin off my nose. Stay single and end up lonely and bitter.
Do I look like I care? I know there are boys like me who don't want to get married, there are lots of people like me especially in 2017. That's the true, mind your own life.
Truth*
I'm just saying. It's a normal human instinct to want love and commitment , so people who deprive themselves of love and commitment are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Either that or they have been completely brainwashed by feminism or the media.
I told you I'm not a feminist, I can't be brainwashed. I want love but I dont want to prove my love with some pieces of paper. And I just dont like kids, I could never be a mother, hearing a baby cry makes me really angry and I dont kids to suffer from me being abusive. I'm doing the most mature thing, I think, which is realizing that I can't be a mother. And im fine with that.
The problem is that if more women like you choose not to have children, our race will eventually die out. Muslims have about 5 to 8 children per family, sometimes more, with up to 4 wives. But in the West, the white race is at a genocidal level. If we keep going the way we are then our race will eventually die out. White women need to be having more children, otherwise we will die out.
you know i used to be like that i really disliked kids they were noisy misbehave and mean to each other but now after my sister having a son and him coming over everyday i grew to love him immensly and my whole opinion changed i now love kids and am open to having my own someday all you gotta do is experience it for yourself as for the marriage i havnt changed my views on that yet but im sure i will someday and i think you may do the same when you see it first hand
@HandsomeGuy500 Wasting your breath here man.
Women "don't get" that kind of thing nor to they even want to hear about it or be burdened with it.
As the saying goes, like trying to explain calculus to a 2 yr old.
Studies show that women have become more and more unhappy over the last 50 years. You can blame this on feminism because they seek to destroy male female relationships.
Nah, haha, you are confusing feminism with femi-nazism, those two ideas are not the same.
Yes because they don't have realistic views and a lot abuse the stance and become cancer
feminism is cancer and all women should burn to death #killAllwomen *triggering them feminazis
It's a consiquence of being told everything is scary.
Be afraid of every one but don't worry, feminism is here to protect you and fight the scary people for you.
No, lol. Don't listen to what MEN think women are thinking. Ask women.
probably some, but it hasn't impacted me personally because I don't allow it to.
"Same as Before..."
Has femenism made women lonely?* not 'more' lonely. Same as before.
You'll realize that you're going to need me, darling
Ill get to this question after class consider this a pin
I mean... feminists are lonely fat dykes so yes
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