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Why do women sexualize themselves to feel empowered? (Page 2)
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Their beauty IS their power. A woman's desire is to feel desired, but there is also a major social shift towards female independence. They feel like they need to entice men, but should never need them.
For women, the most empowering, the highest status thing they can possibly attain is to not only be sexually appealing to lots of men, but to have the intelligence and business savvy to be financially stable independent of those men.
And we have a winner
This is correct
I have never been one to dress sexily. But I have, from time to time, worn flattering clothes to parties in college, and, I'll be honest, it feels AMAZING to have attention like that from guys.
But I didn't need to dress like that to get in the good relationship I am in now, so ultimately, the good feels of guys coming after you over it aren't worth the satisfaction and love of a long-term relationship (that I hope will lead to marriage)!
Because they begin to do it for themselves without seeking the approval of others. Loving yourself and making your own feelings a priority is empowering. I get that others don’t like the method in which they manifest... but the whole point is to not give a damn.
If I'm getting you right, it's a way to go against what others expect of them?
If that's the main factor, in your opinion, are there any additional reasons why someone would sexualize themselves instead of rebelling in a different way?
No. It’s about going against their own insecurities and desperation.
I think people choose to sexualize themselves because they have dealt with the pressure of trying to please others (mostly men but not always) and feel valuable.
They learn that they completely neglect to consider their own feelings and their own sense of love and desire. So they turn that negative into a positive by being sexy for themselves. Loving who they are and expressing their sexuality without the concern of other people.
I'm... slightly confused by the idea of "being sexy for themselves."
Is it like being raised with a dress code, and then deciding that they want to figure out how to dress well in their own personal style?
Like having a dress code, and then deciding to still wear the uniform or something similar when they finally get a chance to leave.
Dress good to feel good. Not so that someone else can give you a compliment.
That's... interesting. I don't really understand how I could dress sexually and feel good about it as an act of self-love. I'm also not sure how I could dress sexually and get a compliment (I'd probably be called a pervert).
Maybe it's because I'm male, maybe it's just my experiences.
Oh! Is it perhaps because, regardless of how correct the "others" are, it takes away a sense of agency to follow their opinions over your own?
I don’t completely understand that last paragraph 😂 cool you reiterate?
Could*
Sure thing! I appreciate the chance to clarify if needed.
In my experience, if someone tells me to do something I was going to do before they mentioned it, or repeatedly tells me to do something that I regularly like to do anyways, it bugs me because I feel like maybe what I think on the subject doesn't matter. If I "accept" orders because I want to do the thing anyway, it leaves me with a feeling that my opinions never get a chance to shine on their own.
Does choosing to dress sexy at times when others aren't telling you to look sexy feel better than dressing sexy at times when they are telling you to?
Oof wall of text. Lemme know if that try makes more sense. If not, I'll get into an egg-frying anecdote.
Yes to answer your question.
probably because how they were raised and being around people who constantly judged womens bodies and sexual objects and made them cover themselves, so they are letting themselves out by breaking free and doing whatever the hell they want. it's the same way if you grow up in a shitty environment when you break free from it you just don't care and want to surround yourself with positive people and to be 100 yourself.
it is power, they've started wars with that stuff, intentional or not. ultimately, it's the ability to cause drug reactions in another being just by being present or speaking (words have power). It may be just for attention as well. they do like to be desired, when they want to be desired.
We are taught that men are sexual beings so of course if we feel sexual and attractive, then we feel empowered and valuable. Honestly, blame society. But there are plenty of women who were raised to not rely on their sexuality. But that's a new concept, itll take a while for it to really spread into our culture.
the naked part is because women for some reason have this crazy idea that the society ( patriarchy) is against women getting naked. so they can't wait to show their naked flat behinds to the whole world. but the main reason is because women are always after others approval. without other people telling them, women can never feel worthy. and the best way to get attention and approval from others, especially men, is by turning themselves into sex objects. if women try to do something impressive and worthwhile , they would have to compete with all the men if they want to be the best. but here is one thing that they get no male competition. they just choose the easy way
I don't do that, so I can't speak for those women.
I empower myself as a young girl through other ways like writing. :)
It depends from woman to woman.
A burqa may empower one while a bikini empowers another
Staying at home and taking care of kids empowers one while working empowers another
Actively dating empowers one while waiting for the right partner empowers another
Every woman has their own way of empowering herself
In the "West" it comes from the old chivalry crap. Women STILL consider sex a reward and men put up with it. Has anyone here (besides me) gotten sex or a nifty blowjob on a 1st date?
Good point and I do see this and that is what or maybe all they have and it is instinctive to them. So, now that we know let us ignore this artificial sexual manipulation to somehow extract blood out of us and stick it our backs when our dks distract us. Some of these that I have dealt with are about as evil as they come so you must keep your head on straight.
Women do whatever they think society will find acceptable
Right now harlotry is seen as virtuous. So women internalized the commands if the oligarchs who tell them "be a slut, don't repress your sexuality"
Sex is being used as a form of political control
Probably for attention and/or the money since posing for provocative pictures can be quite profitable for women.
But honestly, who cares why they do it. Just shut up and enjoy the view. If they weren't willing to do that then most men wouldn't have the opportunity to see women of that calibre naked.
A woman who have pride and value like myself will not dress or walk around naked or nude. That should simply be for one's husband not for society views or popularity.
tell that to the 16 year olds before they fuck their lives up, clearly their parents aren't doing their job
@No_Archons true no more waiting till marriage just as soon as they know the word sex they go and have it
Same here I don't go looking to attract all men in public
Behold for the truth follows...
It is a mans world and man want sec more than anything. Man will do anything to obtain sex. And women that act like this will have an edge on man. For the warfare version of women is seduction.
I know this sounds radical but it’s what I believe. The roles are changing though with man becoming more feminine.
Because it's essentially a cheat code in life. It's how they get advantages without doing the work. An average young woman is about as prefered in society as any doctor, firefighter, or military personell, you name it. So they use this to their advantage, especially in choosing a mate.
Sex is a woman's natural power. Women can manipulate and control certain men with it. WE men on the other hand can't use sex as a power. Male power comes from moving up the food chain of other males. Men need physical strength, social status and personality or else we are invisible.
Feminist logic
> dOnT ObJeCtIfY MeEEEEEeEeEe
> wears skimpy clothing and acts flirty for empowerment
Ok then?
yup!
i’ve got it guys. i’ve cracked it. it’s because it’s the 21st century and girls are allowed and SHOULD love and respect their bodies. grow up🙄 also, it ties in deeply with femininity and confidence and power and it’s just how us girls role baby. don’t like it? move to mars then ig. lmao.
young slut fresh off the conveyor belt. Good luck out there kid, the world is gunna have fun with you
@No_Archons no actually, never did i once mention anything slutty. if you read my words correctly, i said that we should love and respect our bodies. do you know what respect means? i implied that feeling sexy is fine. there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. i never said we should all prance around naked now should we?
context is a thing... look up ^ to the title of this question
sexualizing your body is slut behavior. Women make themselves into sex objects, then you defend it by saying they should love their bodies and give bullshit reasons like 'its the current year' ffs you remind me of my prime minister.
@No_Archons look dude, you won’t believe what i’m about to say but any girl on the planet, and even some guys would agree with me. you are one of these guys who think that if a girl shows off her body in any way, she is giving you and other guys permission to do anything sexual. CLEARLY, that is what your statement “sexualizing your body is slut behaviour” shows everyone. no bullshit. that’s the type of person you are. think about it. and once again, never did i say we should go showing our bodies to each and every person.
@jje1313 you mean roll right? You said role
Try again. I don't think that at all, I just won't date her dummy. Love how you immediately jump to calling me a rapist just cause i call slutty girls sluts. U think I want my dick anywhere near that shit? Think again
Fking stupid kid, just spouting the bullshit propaganda they taught u
@No_Archons way to switch things around mate. i never used the word rapist. more like selfish asshole calling people things when you’re not even open to listening to others. age doesn’t equal smarts buddy. goodbye
@Superplex yeah sure, i meant roll. doesn’t change my point tho
All I'm saying is.. if it's empowering great.. but don't say shit when fat ass, ugly bubba or johnny stares are your body, and the women suddenly get uncomfortable and say men or pervs and shit.. if you are willing to dress a certain way, you get to deal with what comes. Obviously, I'm not talking about sexual assault or rape, but if ugly men stare at your body, you brought that on yourself