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It is the pink-haired nose-ringed obese freaks of the left who are jealous of pretty women, who are overwhelmingly politically conservative.
Research has been published which shows that the better looking a person is the more likely that they are to be a Deplorable.
Deplorable women can also be not sexually conservative, which means that they want to show off their assets because they look damned good.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/01/10/conservatives-really-are-better-looking-research-says/
Yes they are. A lot of conservative women are conservative because they dont have much to show off. They are usually older. Older women tend to be highly jealous of younger attractive women.
Not even close. Because the quality of attention they receive is highly inferior. They, after all, are viewed as cheap & easy and not worth much consideration as serious relationship material. They're a bit of entertainment & little else.
I dress conservatively. I am also decently looking. I have absolutely no problems attracting the attention of decent well-off / successful men (I don't care for money having my own). Men that would not pursue provocatively dressed women unless desperate or stupid.
They will say all day that they ain't jealous but I'm sure deep down they are truly jealous when they see men drooling over a women dressed sexy.
Then they try playing it off by saying those women are disgusting and show off too much. Like if you had to specifically point out that they are disgustingly dressed then you're probably jealous. Someone who didn't care would have ignored the women in the first place.
And some women may actually not be jealous. Probably hard to fathom for many women.
I can understand that. I just meant, not every woman gets jealous about other women getting some kind of attention. It may not be as common but still, not all women.
"its probably a very small amount of women that fall into that not jealous category."
How did you know? Are you a mind reader? This is totally wrong and is a 100% false speculations.
A man that seeks you for your "sexy" body is a mentally limited man. Not a man worth considering.
Modest women win the right men :)
@Psychoanalytical nah thatd be impossible for someone to acutally know if someone was jealous or not but it seems pretty apparent and I'm good at reading people so I'm gauging it off that.
In my opinion a man seeking a women in a visual way is part of nature and how its suppose to be when finding a mate. Not saying that guys can't choose between beauty and brains but it makes sense that a guy would go after a attractive girl that shows off compared to a girl that hides herself.
Not all guys want a girl who is showing everything off to everyone. The same way not all women want to show everything off.
A wise guy doesn't need a girl to "show off" for him to know that she is beautiful and worth dating.
Any man can tell whether a girl is physically attractive or not regardless of what she is wearing.
A guy that falls in love with you once you show off is a hypersexual who lacks self-control. And will do the same with other women. Wise men judge fairly and deeply. They don't get triggered by external traits. These are the men that end up with modest women :)
@Psychoanalytical I guess everyone ends up with the right person that they want then.
For me personally I show off my body but my husband sees that as me being comfortable in my own skin and being able to own my insecurities without caring what others think. It's not always for sexual attraction thing like it may seem.
you are wrong about a couple things. only simple minded men will fall for a girl who shows of her body. Most guys will look but they see you as low value. Like fast food.
The guys who are pleasure driven and lack discipline go for fast food.
But the guys who want quality go for well cooked, healthy meals.
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I personally am not jealous by any means. If they want to dress Like strippers and show off their privates, let them. Tbh I’ve noticed men like them for a minute, but then kinda treat them like trash once they get what they want. I think women can dress sexy and not be slutty too. I like clothes that show off my curves but still covers them. Just me though. I dress
sexy for my soulmate when he takes me out. I think it depends on comfort too. I’m just not as comfortable if I feel I’m spilling out. I have large natural breasts though.
No. Provocatively dressed women get sexual attention i. e. her value is of a hole to be fucked and discarded, a beautiful conservative woman gets attention for her looks and her personality i. e. her value is of a potential long term partner who is valued for her femininity, personality, maternal aspects as well as her sexuality. Its a much more well rounded desirability and one that is not shallow and fleeting.
If a conservative woman wanted to dress in a more sexual way, she would.
It's personal choice.
A person can be attractive no matter what they wear
Exactly
Im sure some can be sometimes, and i dont blame them for it. They have every right to be angry. They know that they are respecting themselves and will sometimes see men pass them over for those easy girls. That can be frustrating.
But those guys either just want a quick hookup or are not high value males anyway.
In the end whatever jealousy there is, if there is any, won't last as conservative women win in the end anyway. In the end they are the ones who have the most value. And by conservative women i mean socially and romantically conservative ( and conservative in beliefs, but not politically. being politically conservative doesn't necessarily mean you are truly conservative).
I'm going to say they are not in any way threatened by those who dress up in "thot"ish clothing. The ones who dress conservatively think enough of themselves to not result to manipulative tactics to gain the so called respect of others. I can also appreciate women who hold themselves to a higher standard than to look like a two dollar hooker.
Nope. I’ll take respect over rudeness any day. Women who respect themselves are actually more desired by men, and they earn the respect of those men. By far doesn’t mean they’re less desired; actually more so 😊
So in a nutshell, we get more attention than they do, but it’s GOOD attention and appreciation with respect, something they don’t get. And that’s not our words but guys say that themselves.
Plus that we don’t have to provoke attention and we get more good attention without even having to beg for it lol
Ever notice how they’re the ones complaining that the attention isn’t good and they prefer more respectful attention from men? You gotta respect yourself first :)
So I see the OPPOSITE: they are jealous of us. Men not only want to have sex with us but also find us worth marrying and not just leaving after one night. They don’t get that benefit. They get the “I just wanna stick it in her then leave.” Which is understandable
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No, they are not. They're just disgusted and repulsed by it because they have been brainwashed into the thought that if you dress this ways you're a whore that does not respect themselves.
So they're just disgusted by their behavior because of their upbringing.
i would say the opposite. Girls who who dress provocatively are the brainwashed ones. They dont understand that men dont respect them like that. The other women are realistic and know how to preserve their value.
@startingfitness Not at all. Men that trash women for showing their bodies are brainwashed and stupid. It's a normal behavior for a woman to want to be considered attractive also in summer you can't expect people to cover up just because of your brainwashed mind. Years and years ago before Christianism happened people were barely wearing clothes and nobody was shocked by it, in the Scandinavian countries people have always been comfortable with nudity because they do not sexualize people bodies. In Ancient Egypt and in many African tribe they barely worn any clothes because it was much more convenient. It's the Christian religion that forced people to cover up because if their weird view on people body.
@startingfitness People who think showing a bit of skin is bad are brainwashed one and in Eastern Europe men don't bash their women because they desire to look attractive and pretty. They like it.
Guys that insult and not respect women depending on their habits are brainwashed dude especially if they're the hypocrite kind of liking to masturbate, watching video of nude women, etc... They like to use those sexy girls but then insult them, that's just ridiculous and disgusting.
Everyone is free to have their preference in terms of clothes and all but those that are hypocrite about it (big majority of men) are just shit.
Women who dress this ways actually know they aren't respected and don't get why (this is why they complain about it) or they live in country where men actually respect them no matter their ways of dressing.
Also there's men that dress like thot but those also insult women that show their body. Some people are just utterly stupid.
If you look at it men like to look at women bodies but hate for others men to look at their girlfriend, mother, sister, daughter so they refuse their women to dress this ways cause they don't want others men to sexualize them but if men just stopped sexualizing women and being obsessed with it that wouldn't happen (or if they simply stoped to be controlling that wouldn't bother them anymore).
This is just a matter of culture and culture is a ways of brainwashing.
In Japan before foreigner came to their land they weren't bothered by nudity at all, it was a totally normal things (people took a bath with everyone, children women, men all in the same bath and naked nobody was shocked by it after they meet Christian foreigner they became obsessed with modesty and covering up) If this isn't called a brainwash I don't know what is it.
In the end if you only like modest girls then just date modest girls (but don't go insult or have sex with "trashy" girl cause that's just a big hypocrisy).
No we are not brainwashed or stupid. Before Christianity ( or any abrahamic religion for that matter, you keep mentioning christianity but muslims are even more conservative than christians and jews look down on dressing revealingly too) came , people lived with more primitive religions and customs. Do you know one common theme with most cultures back then throughout the world?
One common theme was that clothing , ornaments, and other objects that people would wear was a privilege for those who are powerful. It a status symbol. And people who wore less clothes, owned less ornaments etc, were mistreated and disrespected more, because they were less powerful. This type of behaviour can be replicated with monkey for example, If you give a t shirt to a group of monkey for example, that t shirt will go to the alpha very quickly.
The abrahamic religions promoted wearing clothing for all and in a way that ensured that people in general were seen as more respectable and civilized. In a way it helped and protected people.
Now different places on the planet have different rules and standards of modesty. There is a level that is considered modest and a line that can be crossed where you are considered immodest. In the middle east, showing too much ankle is considered immodest. In Europe or america, wearing booty shorts could be considered immodest.
regardless of where the line actually falls, my problem is with the girls who cross that line. Girls who cross that line are attention seeking at best , and very likely they could be advertising. I dont like narcissists and promiscuous women, so i prefer modest women.
And one last thing, it is impossible for men to sexualize women and that will never happen. Our sexuality is the reason human beings exist. If men didn't sexualize women, we would not be here today. The problem is when women use our sexuality to get attention be being extra revealing , then we can only see them as sex objects. Its not us objectifying them in this case, its them objectifying themselves to get our attention, for whatever reason. And you cannot expect men to respect women like that, that is a joke. You cannot tell men to care about your personality when you have your breasts in our faces. That's not how that works.
* impossible for men NOT to sexualize women. i forgot to write not
@startingfitness I keep mentioning Christianity because I'm a Catholic and only know Christian and European history I don't know anything from any others countries since I have not much interest in countries others than European ones.
And I don't really care of talk to people who doesn't have the same religion as me.
Totaly false Romans, people from Greece and Egyptian barely wore clothes no matter their status. Spartian fight naked a lot and were very comfortable being nude. You're just spreading bullshit here.
abrahamic religion is just stuff that was invented to control people and making them happy to be poor and submissive (they should be happy to be poor and not complain about it). abrahamic religions is a things invented to brainwash people. Why did royal had the right to marry multiple time and commit incest while the poor couldn't? Why did the rich were fat and keep eating more than reasons, always asking for more food and more in general but forced their people to be poor and be happy eating two potato a day?
In France wears a shorts or a skirts and you're call a whore, wear thigh high sock / shoes and you're call a whore. Wear flashy make up or dye your hair platinum blond and you're call a whore. wear a tank top in summer and you're call a whore who want attention (in school we're forbidden to wear a tank top cause it's too revealing even in 45 degree in summer).
This is just ridiculous.
They don't search attention they're just following fashion, if fashion was to be dressed in a modest ways and no clothes fashionable were revealing then no girls would wear revealing clothing. Women just follow fashion that's all they do. Why force yourself not to wear something you find cute and be miserable just because some brainwashed person would insult you for it? Stranger doesn't count.
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Here you're just insulting your own gender there's hundred of men who respect women that dress sexy and can handle a conversation with a women that wear a low cut top. Don't blame all men for this, it's yay personality that is like that.
You just sound like a bitter men who think all women that wear revealing clothes are whore and should be happy to have sex with you and when they reject you (obviously) you become extremely bitter for it.
And as a matter of fact I dress in a modest ways (so modest even muslim think I dress modest) and I absolutely despise guys like you who can't even respect others humans and are so entitled. Women doesn't think of you when dressing they just think of themselves and their idols.
Lol no, i am totally right. Just because they didn't wear pants , doesn't mean that they aren't dressed. Look at how roman nobles dressed. Look at how greek nobles dressed. You can see depictions and paintings on google. Now look at how the peasants dressed. DO the same for egyptians. Greek and Roman nobles had better and finer clothes, usually more layers and covering more of their legs. Egyptian nobles and royalty also wore more compared to peasants, and they in particular wore more ornaments to denote their status and power. And slaves in all regions were the most exposed. Go look it up.
You think the abrahamic religions made people poor? And you say i am the one making up rubbish, you are clearly biased against christianity, someone told you that it was all bad and now you dont want to see the good that it has done. I am catholic too and i dont have such a negative view of our religion. Royalty always had more rights and got away with more , whether christian, muslim, pagan or atheist. It has to do with power not religion.
Men dont respect women who dress sexy, except for a few desperate losers that have no options. Most of these guys are just saying that stuff to girls, and they are lying. The will tell a girl they are so beautiful and it looks so nice and all that, then 5 minutes later they come to me " bro, did you see her,, i wanna **** that hot slut"" and then they converse ina totally different manner than before.
At least i am honest about what i think and tell girls the truth and tell them its more respectable not to dress that way, but you girls wanna believe the two faced liars instead, your choice, go ahead.
I am not expecting anything from those provocative women, and i don't want them. When i see them , i imagine that they sleep around and they probably have stds. I don't care what you think , i am not gonna respect those type of classless women, and you should stay away from them too unless you want to be associated with them.
@startingfitness What you don't know is that egyptian dress were transparent even for rich people... And Egyptian were nearly all the time naked rich and all.
What are you on about seriously?
And tribe in Africa are nearly naked as well as tribe in Amazonian forest and they have no problem. You're the one having a problem with women bodies. Women don't sexualize men body they usually more grossed out by men bodies than anything (considering what's considered for a man attractive is to be muscular and nearly no men are muscular so when they show their naked bodies women are grossed out by men and so don't come and say it's normal to sexualize people bodies you're ridiculous).
It have to do with religion, they made religion especially for making the poor be happy to be poor and not wanting to be rich (but this is especially about Cathholicism more than Protestant cause Protestant like talking about money and love it, Catholic do not it's extremely bad seen to talk about money).
I'm not biased, I love my religion and love being Catholic but looking at it, it cannot have been done for others reasons then controlling people (as for others religion I don't know anything about those, nothing I have no interest in religion except for mine). And I don't know much about any others countries except Europe and a bit about Japan cause I don't care about it.
But how can you explain tons of tribe are totally ok being naked without screaming immodesty and some others aren't? It's only explaining by brainwashing and the only things that was obsessed with modesty in Europe was Christianity and people who weren't modest and came to know our religion turned out to adopt ours rules of modesty. If this isn't brainwash then what's it?
I'm not friends with them cause I don't have any interest in the same stuff, I like video games, anime and movie (like star wars, lotr, and old movie).
So we share nothing since they usually like modern stuff and rap which I don't (I mostly listen to music from movie and video games or some classical stuff).
But I just doesn't get why people hate girls that dress revealing so much, it's just clothes and just skin.
I don't hate guys that like to take shirtless pictures of themselves. They do what they want.
Look, no kings or queens of civilized societies like greeks or egyptians were naked. That is simply false, or you can prove me wrong. I am not talking tribes but civilized societies, societies that at least had irrigation and agriculture, I will accept that i am wrong if you can prove it. But kings and queens definitely wore clothes that showed their status that separated them from the commoners and often they wore more ornaments too.
as for tribes sure, tribes in africa and other regions were often almost nude. But they were also not as advanced as other cultures. They adapted clothing when they chose to become more advanced rather than stay more primitive. There are tribes that refused to become advanced and they remain like before even today.
The reason i am bringing this up is because some people, you included dont seem to understand that clothing are signs of an advanced and improved civilization. I dont understand why you would want to abandon that. We dont live like tribes do today, we live differently.
anyway i feel like you are getting upset and i dont want to bully you so im ending this.
The reason why men dont like provokative women is because they are generally bad news for us. I don't know maybe you genuinely are unaware , but girls who go over the limit of what is considered modest in their place do so deliberately to get our attention. We dont know what they want exactly but it isn't good for us. Some just want attention, some want sex, others are looking to cause trouble. Thats why most smart men try to avoid them or try to keep interactions with them short, but the weak men will fall for it and we can see them get hurt eventually.
@startingfitness They weren't naked but they were wearing so little clothing that's it's barely the same.
No everyone count why does tribe doesn't count? They have the same body as us (they have breast, lips, legs, etc...) so if their bodies aren't sexualized then why in Europe is i sexualized? It don't make sense.
I don't want to abandon it, it's just some revealing clothes are super cute shorts skirts are cute, crop top is cute and being insulted and slut shamed for it is stupid, you can't even wear cute clothes without getting insulted it's completely ridiculous.
I'm not getting fed up I'm getting confused. And women don't wear revealing clothes to attract men they just do cause it's fashion and it look cute. (I cannot post pics cause it doesn't I don't understand but my laptop just won't do it it suck).
But there's hundred of cute clothes that happen to be revealing but it isn't made to get attention.
Tribespeople are still people ad i respect them as such but you cannot expect them to behave as civilized people do. They have different customs and rules.
You say they dont sexualize their bodies, but i would argue that they are more sexualized as a whole culture. Many such tribes have sexual practices and customs that do not fit into a civilized society. Fr example, i have heard that in certain tribes, they dont have strict marriages or couples, but rather just lovers, In these cases the mother becomes the matriarch of the family and the children are raised mostly by the mother and women. Men are simply lovers but dont marry and therefore they dont know which child is theirs for certain. In these types of systems the father won't invest much into his children. Fathers investing in their children is one of the major factors that can lead to an advanced society.
So they can have their customs, but i dont think they make a good example to follow for a modern civilization. The sexual revolution and removing marriage restrictions in the last century have caused a massive increase in divorce rates , single mother homes, and fatherless children. So basically we went backwards. And i dont know if you know, but fatherlessness is related with a reduced chance to succeed professionally and related with higher likelyhood for crime.
Some girls may do it because of fashion but many do it for attentionand more nefarious reasons. You dont need to argue with me over that i have seen that and experienced that so dont tell me all girls who dress revealingly are innocent. That is why we judge them and we have every right to.
@startingfitness I heard about a chinese tribe like this it's not the father that take care of the child it's usually their uncle but that just stupid. Poor child.
I'm aware of it, all children who I know who have divorced parents or not traditional childhood turned out quite badly. (or those that have both their parents but their parents aren't strict enough then the kid also turns out badly).
Stuff that happen after May 68 is quite bad in general, it's just trying to destroy family for their own egoistic belief and thus only end up destroying child (like always, at every change the more touched are the children). The only stuff I would agree with is of respecting everyone (except those that does not respect you obviously those doesn't deserve anything).
I don't think you and others guys have the right to judge anyone, this is just a bad things to do. True some girls do it to get attention but to what I know a lot of young teen who do it mostly do it to get attention from their parents (tons of parents don't give a shit about their children and just let them do whatever they want but this make children suffer).
I don't get why you would want to judge those girls I had to talk to them cause we were classmate and coworker and even if we didn't have any common interest they were mostly good person so
@thehorriblesheikh - and yet only the desperate among men would consider marrying a free prostitute which is what, in many ways, more provocatively / looser women are as they've such low standards they'll screw anyone who smiles at them.
Nah. That's likE asking a single man with average salary and who's ignored by women if he's jealous of the rich guy, who's flaunting with his range rover (that his father bought him) and gets gold diggers into his backseats.
these women? they don't want to dress like a slut because they don't want to be treated like one.
They see them as sluts and trash. If husbands really love their wives they will stay away from the crotch grabbers
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Some are. Some aren't. It's because of how you guys say how you like modest girls and not slutty dressing girls. Yet you will worship and pour your heart out to anyone showing more than average level of skin
Not really. I showed a bit of cleavage every now and then but that’s it. I didn’t get jealous of the provocatively dressed girls because I knew that I could have dressed more provocatively, I just chose not to.
Why would anyone be jealous of that kind of attention
Conservative women hate girls with hot butts. This I know.
They are not jealous cause they could also dress provocatively if they wanted to
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There are Conservative women who are prostitutes and porn stars.
No, because they're smart enough to know other people's opinions don't matter. Especially online. Sluts are normally emotionally fragile and need validation.
No. If they were they would dress provocatively themselves.
nope why would I be jealous of fake attention they get from men?
Why would they be jealous of uglier women wearing something that they could also wear if they wanted to?
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