Should mixed fights that allow groin strikes be allowed?

[TashaAmiee]

Woman often have their own separate division but I think with some rules tweaking, like legal groin strikes there could be an even match between guys v girls. What do you think?

Yes, I think it would make for interesting fights

Vote A

No, it would be unfair in some way

Vote B

[0112358]

It would still be unfair and frankly dangerous for women. Yes it's a vulnerable spot. No it doesn't make men weaker than women in a fight.

The original ufc fights had no prohibition on groin shots. Plenty of martial arts were designed for combat not sport. None of them entirely dedicated themselves to trying to hit the opponent in the balls.

[Coyote07]

I think at MMA level (bare hands, bare feet) it would be dangerous for men and women. I mean, it already is pretty dangerous.

But I do think you are overestimating how much of an advantage men would have if weight classes were the same. In original MMA, they still wore cups, not to mention they had motivation not to abuse the rule because their opponent could do the same.

No, it's not a magic fight ender at any skill level. It depends on a lot of factors. Most importantly, how much the man has trained to defend against groin strikes, and how much the woman has trained to use them (both as feints and not). Another factor is simply that some men are more compact and "tucked away" down there, while others naturally have more "target" exposed from more angles. A guy who has more area to protect is going to struggle more to prevent his opponent's kicks from connecting with his testicles. And that in turn means he is forced to respect her feints even more.

But overall, yes, the man would typically still have the advantage at the same weight class.

[Josh4206]

How is thay an even match? You punch a dude in the balls he's done

[TashaAmiee]

Well men have the traditional strength advantage so I feel like it'd be more balanced

[RileyP]

You don't think a guy would stand a chance at all? I mean, he'd probably be stronger for one thing. I get it, the testicles are very weak, but do you really think it gives girls that much of an advantage?

[Josh4206]

Definitely does because that's all they'd do because that's any guys weakness

[RileyP]

I thought guys were supposed to be the stronger sex, yet you're admitting that they aren't. I'm surprised to hear a guy so willing to acknowledge it.

[Josh4206]

Fights don't let you punch people in the balls lmao. . .

[RileyP]

Fights with no rules do. Imagine a girl fighting a guy that's not in a competition with rules. There's no reason for her to avoid attacking his balls, right?

[Josh4206]

Yeah thats called a cheapshot and is looked down upon. . . Whoever gets the first hit wins basically. If the dude punches her first in the head then its over too

[RileyP]

That's my point. You said that it wouldn't be an even match to the original question because a punch in the balls would finish him, but now you're saying that a guy could punch her first in the head and win. So apparently it would be an even fight after all.

I don't see why either is a cheap shot anyway. Testicles are a part of the male body just like a head.

[Josh4206]

So would you be fine with a guy pulling your hair and possibly removing it from your head?

[RileyP]

In a fight with no rules, then anything goes, though the original question was about some kind of competition that would presumably have some rules. I don't think hair pulling for either gender would be allowed. Sorry if it sounds like I'm being rude. I'm just surprised at your answer about groin strikes tipping the advantage to girls by so much.

[Josh4206]

Some rules as in no groin hits exactly. If you want some rules then you can't only have rules for guys lmao

[RileyP]

Fair point. Would you be afraid to fight a girl if groin strikes were allowed?

[TashaAmiee]

I mean the rule would be uniform groin strikes, I never said it was explicitly for male groin strikes only. It would be even on the rules

[Josh4206]

Thats already a rule in most fights, no grojn strike from either gender.

[RileyP]

Yes, that's true about that rule banning groin strikes nearly always existing, but the point of the question is to think about what might happen if that rule didn't exist.

[Josh4206]

Was replying to the other person, but if that rule didn't exist it would change very little since in order to kick/hit there you have to put yourself at risk of getting knocked out

[RileyP]

Ok. Your original answer made it sound like you think girls would always win in such a situation. I'm confident that I would have a good chance of winning in such a situation.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@RileyP hello, muay thai fighter here. No, it wouldn't be enough to fill the gap between men and women. It's not hard to avoid such a kick and capitalize on it.

[Jowm00]

@RileyP or even worse, grab a man by the balls and squeeze. Having been on the receiving end of such a grip, I can attest to how helpless the man in that position is, and how absolutely powerful the woman with his low hangers trapped between her fingers is.

[Jhonrembo]

@RileyP I have been training and coaching Krav Maga and Survival for many, many years. Where I train today is allowed to kick the crotch and still most of the time women lose in combat. For several reasons: 1. When it comes to kicking in crime, men keep their eggs much longer. 2. Their absorption capacity for beating eggs is higher. 3. They are still in most cases much stronger and more aggressive. What is true in most cases is that men do lose it as a result of a strong blow to the eggs that hit them hard. It's also funny to me twice that a little girl with a precise and quick kick to the balls hires a big man to the floor who howls in pain.😂

[Anonymous]

So according to your line of thought, in real life, when there are no rules, men and women are about evenly matched?
Of course not. Yes, men have this weak spot, but they're still way stronger.

[TashaAmiee]

I don't know, guys get a 5 minute break in MMA fights if they take one to the cup. And most guys who've answered have said it would be unfair. To me that signifies that guys are sort of scared to fight women with those rules because they would lose a lot

[Opinion Owner]

So you think women are stronger than men?

[TashaAmiee]

I mean maybe not physically but its pretty clear they have a chance in a fight and have their own advantages

[Opinion Owner]

Men are stronger, way stronger. Do we have a chance? Yes. A dumb guy might keep his groin open, or his head, or his throat. A professional wouldn't.

[TashaAmiee]

But a professional female fighter would also know how to place those strikes more effectively I feel like it would offer girls a chance. same weight class and things obviously

[Opinion Owner]

Just like any other sport, if your take away the division between men and women, it would be the same as eliminating the women.

[TashaAmiee]

I mean agree too disagree I suppose

[RileyP]

I would enjoy seeing such matches. I think it would be very interesting and difficult to know who would win with such rules.

[MichealDal]

Maybe I feel like boys would still have an edge

[TallTom]

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[HaylenDorn]

@RileyP I mean would it changes things all that much?

[HaylenDorn]

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[Strongballs25]

I wish you kick in my balls 😃

[RileyP]

@Strongballs25 Are you sure? I don’t think you’d be able to take it very well.

[Strongballs25]

Yeah I would, my balls are strong 😊, let's start chat, message me. That's my favorite part of kick in my testicle

[houstontexans]

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[DrearyMark]

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[AnthonyR32]

@RileyP lol these guys thinking it would give girls a chance are clearly wusses. Nothing would change with those rules, guys would still dominate

[Anonymous]

No. If you allow groin strikes against women and men, it wouldn’t change anything because you can also strike women in the groin. If you just allowed them against men, I still doubt it would change much. The physical differences are just too significant. Guys would win every time, and women would likely be left with life threatening injuries.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

Anyone who knows anything about fighting know that would not be enough to fill the gap there is between women and men.

[Catlover1992]

It can definitely balance each other but the fights would be shorter. One hit to the balls and it's over.

[icequeen03]

LMAO girls would destroy guys

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

They need to hit and they need to go down. Not only is a very easy to defend kick also with adrenaline rushingany guys don't go down.

[Jingle-Balls]

@icequeen03 Not if he's a well trained guy though? ;)

[Strongballs25]

Yes, I love it, I wish girls kick my testicles 😍

[quetimporta]

yeah xd xd