My teen love didn't really respect me, it was my fault because I was too immature to get respect. Maybe some men in Islamic countries miss this important lesson, because they get superficial respect from girls unconditionally. Nevertheless I think, social norm pressure is one thing but human nature is another. At the end everyone gets they deserve.
I can only speak for myself. I would never be in a relationship without mutual respect. A relationship where respect only goes one way would not be a healthy one in my view.
From my perspective I am treated kindly from western women. I think they do respect their men. The only time I see them disrespect a man is when the man is speaking inappropriately to them.
Proverbs 21:9, women making their man feel emasculated is nothing new or unique to Western women. Women regard their men as lazy slobs, men regard women as nagging scolds. It is the way of the world. We just get along as best we can.
Agreed. You’re either masculine or you’re not. Women naturally have varying degrees of masculine energy as well, but that shouldn’t change the state of a man’s masculine energy in relation to her.
@MzAsh and if it does? Because I have the feeling that because women seem to be doing good in their masculine energy from a guy´s point of view the "real"/"old-school" guys are dying out.
@MzAsh I´m not saying it´s because of women but because guys lost the ability to understand women and what they are looking for. I´m not blaming anyone for that because I don´t think that anyone actually could be pointed out as the wrong doer.
@MzAsh I don´t know if it´s evolutionary I´d rather see it as a current problem. Because many guys don´t spend "quality time" in terms of friendships or other offline activities with girls they don´t get to know girls in their youth and have later problems figuring what a woman likes. Another problem is that most of communication goes online which leads to guys not develop social skills that it would be necessary to make girl feel safe/comfortable. Plus the guys that actually know how to get a woman´s attention are often quickly taken or are not interested in a relationship. So women spend time with them hoping to change them but when they can´t, so they are left broken-hearted thinking all guys are jerks. Another problem is the invention of the so called "friendzoned" because it lowers the interest of guys actually becoming friends with women. So guys stopped spending time with women and looked for answering how to be a partner for a relationship and they go to so called "dating coaches" and those guys are usually not guys that are interested in relationships so they don´t give out tips how to reach a relationships but instead tell guys to avoid a "friendzone" situation at all cost meaning their advice is to stay away from women because if she sees you as friend you´ll never be a potential partner to her. Though that might be true it makes those guys avoid women in general. I don´t know how prominent that was before social-media and the internet but I see it as a current thing that guys spend less time with women or prepare less for dating so they don´t actually know how to become a compatible partner for a relationship. Because I know from looking at my friends that some social and personal skills make a difference in dating and that only physical aspects are counting when it comes to dating.
Well i can't speak for all but in my view most modern women try to control their men instead of submit
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Yes its true. Every step east you take it gets better. If you circle the earth you will be treated like a god. But only if you go around eastward. Go west and you're a demon.
Yes, women in the Western world do attempt to do this, which has caused a huge distrust and divide among women and men. It's why men no longer trust women. Women have become the enemy.
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My teen love didn't really respect me, it was my fault because I was too immature to get respect. Maybe some men in Islamic countries miss this important lesson, because they get superficial respect from girls unconditionally. Nevertheless I think, social norm pressure is one thing but human nature is another. At the end everyone gets they deserve.
Controlling them and financially draining their men? It's somewhat true.
I think that there are some men who do not deserve respect. How they got that way is still up for debate.
I can only speak for myself. I would never be in a relationship without mutual respect. A relationship where respect only goes one way would not be a healthy one in my view.
I think they have all been brainwashed subconsciously to hate men by constant male bashing in school and on television.
Men simply aren't valued.
From my perspective I am treated kindly from western women. I think they do respect their men. The only time I see them disrespect a man is when the man is speaking inappropriately to them.
No. How much respect a person shows depends on the person, not their nationality.
I feel they take men for granted more and expect things.
I found that the more you do the less respect you get and the more that is expected of you
The scariest part about it is you can't always know if they're doing it on purpose or if they don't even realise they're doing it.
No idea where you heard that.
1. We are not weak to let them emasculate us.
2. They don't try to it in the first place.
Proverbs 21:9, women making their man feel emasculated is nothing new or unique to Western women. Women regard their men as lazy slobs, men regard women as nagging scolds. It is the way of the world. We just get along as best we can.
In my experience women in Russia are more respectful. Western women, candidly, can be fucking annoying.
Not true. I respect my man sooo much!!
Aww. That is so sweet.
Respect needs to be earned properly first. When men deserve respect, they’ll know how to get it.
Everyone deserves respect even if they’re an assh*le.
No I don’t think that’s true.
Yeah and western women by and large don’t deserve respect from men yet u guys all complain when men don’t respect u. Odd
I don’t know who “you guys” is. I don’t have a problem getting respect from those I care to have respect from.
Maybe it’s cuz ur a western women
Nothing wrong with that.
It's a bit of an over generalization but has a lot of truth to it.
If a woman can "emasculate" you, you weren't very masculine to begin with.
Agreed. You’re either masculine or you’re not. Women naturally have varying degrees of masculine energy as well, but that shouldn’t change the state of a man’s masculine energy in relation to her.
@MzAsh and if it does? Because I have the feeling that because women seem to be doing good in their masculine energy from a guy´s point of view the "real"/"old-school" guys are dying out.
IF that were true, what makes you think it’s because of women?
@MzAsh I´m not saying it´s because of women but because guys lost the ability to understand women and what they are looking for. I´m not blaming anyone for that because I don´t think that anyone actually could be pointed out as the wrong doer.
I see. Could that be evolutionary?
@MzAsh I don´t know if it´s evolutionary I´d rather see it as a current problem. Because many guys don´t spend "quality time" in terms of friendships or other offline activities with girls they don´t get to know girls in their youth and have later problems figuring what a woman likes.
Another problem is that most of communication goes online which leads to guys not develop social skills that it would be necessary to make girl feel safe/comfortable.
Plus the guys that actually know how to get a woman´s attention are often quickly taken or are not interested in a relationship. So women spend time with them hoping to change them but when they can´t, so they are left broken-hearted thinking all guys are jerks.
Another problem is the invention of the so called "friendzoned" because it lowers the interest of guys actually becoming friends with women.
So guys stopped spending time with women and looked for answering how to be a partner for a relationship and they go to so called "dating coaches" and those guys are usually not guys that are interested in relationships so they don´t give out tips how to reach a relationships but instead tell guys to avoid a "friendzone" situation at all cost meaning their advice is to stay away from women because if she sees you as friend you´ll never be a potential partner to her. Though that might be true it makes those guys avoid women in general.
I don´t know how prominent that was before social-media and the internet but I see it as a current thing that guys spend less time with women or prepare less for dating so they don´t actually know how to become a compatible partner for a relationship.
Because I know from looking at my friends that some social and personal skills make a difference in dating and that only physical aspects are counting when it comes to dating.
Well i can't speak for all but in my view most modern women try to control their men instead of submit
Yes its true. Every step east you take it gets better. If you circle the earth you will be treated like a god. But only if you go around eastward. Go west and you're a demon.
Yes, women in the Western world do attempt to do this, which has caused a huge distrust and divide among women and men. It's why men no longer trust women. Women have become the enemy.
Not an American women but I think they are more opinionated and independent.