Because they are hoping they will be the person they were when they first got together. Women will stay in an unhappy unhealthy relationship and do everything she can to fix it. Once he finds out that it's over she's already known for a long time.
Usually they don't find out until they've developed a deep connection. Also some people find the idea of being in a relationship better than being single. In other words, they're in love with being in a relationship, and not the person they're with.
Men who meet the women of today high standards can treat them like shit
those women allow them to treat them like shit because they know they’ll have an impossibly hard time findings another guy who meets all their requirements
so they hope that they can change and become a better person overtime but a man with options has no reason to be respectful or loyal to any woman
If women are obsessed with heigh TV and wealth, a 6’ 2” billionaire has it made. When women complain about Donald Trump being a misogynist, my question is “What part of a lifetime of banging supermodels was supposed to tell him his behavior towards women needs to improve?”
@GlassTop bro, they’re still talking to me and wishing they’re with me. It’s not only the pussy that they miss. It’s the person and the memories 🥹🥹🥹 😝 cue in the violin 🎻
Just gotten out of a relationship that can be described as the above. For me, I had fallen in love with him and loved a lot of things about him, but he also had a crazy long list of qualities that were dealbreakers. I spent months holding onto some false hope that I could change him and that once I’d fixed that long list of things, he would be perfect. Misguided, but I think love clouds judgement and logic. 🤷🏻♀️
So try to help me understand here, why do women believe it's their job to change anybody? Why do they think they're so much higher in morals or actions to think they can change a man? Isn't this a God complex?
Maybe we want to be let go of instead but they won't let us go. Sometimes its hard letting them go. But self sabotaging often works in my favor until I get to be free again
Im just speakin for myself then ig because when its the wrong dude, i feel trapped but ion like breaking hearts so sometimes i go the immature route and self sabotage until they leave me instead. Then i get to be free without feeling guilty
If you want to “love” guys like that than be my guest. But just remember when they screw you over (and they will) you have no one but yourself to blame. The writing was on the wall.
At least you girls are being honest. But again remember:
1) Women have the power to accept or reject. And you made voluntary decision to do this.
2) This will go from bad to worse with these guys. You won’t “change” them
3) These are getting rewarded for doing the exact opposite of what women “say” they want. Is any wonder why so many men hate feminism and distrust female dating advice
4) You passed up several good opportunities with decent men along the way.
5). When you finally do get burned enough to walk away from this just remember you could of easily walked away in the beginning. But you didn’t. You are NOT a victim. This is your damn fault.
@LexiXide Are these men actual jerks or they just do that stuff in the bed? They're just telling you that to get you horny? I don't think you like jerks. You still want the guy to be presentable and nice when he first meets you and when you decide you like him you want him to talk like that. Like a fetish thing. Like a random guy walking up to you and talking shit you would ignore him I think. You have to get to know him and then you give him the okay.
@globetrotter22 It’s the trying to change a guy part that is so irritating about women. Because what makes you think you are so much more put together than a guy that you can try to change him? What makes you think you’re better or more moral to believe you could fix somebody? It's a joke.
man on fire some men not all try to rule women to control them change them its when the womens gained his trust not just you guys that go through it its annoying for us gals to u know
@Beatrix7 what you just said makes absolutely no sense. But if you want to dive head first into self destruction be my guest. But don’t come crying to us when you get screwed over (and you will).
@Beatrix7 @LexiXide but women do scold men. In fact you have a whole f*cking movement devoted to doing that called feminism. And what do men get when they do what women “say” they want? As you both admitted above rejection.
So It’s no wonder why men don’t want to listen to women. You are lying to us about what you want because more often then not you lying to yourselves about you REALLY want.
and what do women get when women do what men say and want listen to me right now a dont lie ok a tell the truth u awt to have seen the guys i was with lied to his fucki_ self and me cheated used for money we get nothing when we do what you want i play fair in relashionships because it takes 2 to tangle or it goes nowhere nd a want a good lover but its gonny be hard to find on we gain ure trust and u fk us up
I think you're just being very stereotypical and don't cuss at us we don't deserve to be treated like that you know women aren't all the same @globetrotter22
It’s just sad that as a man I have can choose to be either a predator (an asshole) or the prey (genuine nice guy).
Tbh there have a few rare times in my life I’ve been the predator. I was in a different mindset and feeling more aggressive. I wanted one thing and one thing only from the women I did these to. I wasn’t “nice” about it. I just (consensually) went for it not caring about their feelings. Just my own needs.
Now that is unfortunately not how I normally am. I was in an altered mindset. But it was insane and very sad how women got turned on by that bullshit.
The “prey” is the genuine nice guy. He isn’t being fake either. He really cares and listens to what women say and want. He thinks twice about his actions and whether or not they can hurt woman’s feelings. He gets lots of verbal praise but he dries women up because to them he’s “boring”. They think just giving him verbal platonic compliments and the friéndzone is rewarding him somehow. It’s actually deeply insulting him.
Now there are rare “gentlemen”. He’s like the nice guy but he’s gifted to be a quick thinker and has very strong intuition on what to say and timing. But only 3% or less of guys have that. And you can’t expect the other 97% to be that either. But women do expect that mind reading ability.
As a woman myself I consider myself as a chaser when I like someone. We hold onto the person we like because we "try" to make ourselves believe that he is really busy and couldn't get time to communicate, meet. But when a woman is done with all bullshit she never looks back. It's is how it is. It's just we tend to make our love story in our minds like a fairy tale where women bear with everything and gets her love in end and a happy ending.
because they prob feel that if they were good enuf for him and loved him enough that he would change and would discover how awesoem she is. like she has the ability to fix him or heal him etc.
The guys were either good-looking or wealthy. It's a mentality to not date socially inferior guys than popular guys. Changing him draws a mental satisfaction. Plus a large section of girls are bad too and they find similar traits attractive.
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They fall in love with the dream and idea of a man instead of who he really is
I notice that too, yeah.
Because they are hoping they will be the person they were when they first got together. Women will stay in an unhappy unhealthy relationship and do everything she can to fix it. Once he finds out that it's over she's already known for a long time.
I have an uncle who was a cop. He says that the sadists always find the masochists.
Insecurity about finding another fella and/or fear of being alone. The devil you know feels safer than the devil you don’t.
Usually they don't find out until they've developed a deep connection. Also some people find the idea of being in a relationship better than being single. In other words, they're in love with being in a relationship, and not the person they're with.
Men who meet the women of today high standards can treat them like shit
those women allow them to treat them like shit because they know they’ll have an impossibly hard time findings another guy who meets all their requirements
so they hope that they can change and become a better person overtime but a man with options has no reason to be respectful or loyal to any woman
If women are obsessed with heigh TV and wealth, a 6’ 2” billionaire has it made. When women complain about Donald Trump being a misogynist, my question is “What part of a lifetime of banging supermodels was supposed to tell him his behavior towards women needs to improve?”
Sometimes they think they can't do better or think they can change the guy
To put it simply, most lack self respect. Women with self respect don’t put up with that.
Self-Esteem would be an issue too
Because she "loves" him and love makes people do crazy things like stay in bad relationships
Is that really love though?
1000% yes! Girls get stupid when in love
I don’t hold on. I just die and become a ghost to them. So one day, he’ll be haunted of the fact he lost me forever.
Do you know they're bad from the start?
Not really. If I know they’re bad from the get go, I avoid them like plague. I don’t want to be treated like shit!
Haunted? Is the pussy that good?
@GlassTop bro, they’re still talking to me and wishing they’re with me. It’s not only the pussy that they miss. It’s the person and the memories 🥹🥹🥹 😝 cue in the violin 🎻
What can u possibly be doing to make people fall so deeply for u?
Ghost ohhh spooky 👻
@GlassTop I don't know.
@Still-alive 🤣 it’s almost there
Better call the ghostbusters!
because those men are often good to them elsewhere. such as giving the access to thrills and attention among others
Just gotten out of a relationship that can be described as the above. For me, I had fallen in love with him and loved a lot of things about him, but he also had a crazy long list of qualities that were dealbreakers. I spent months holding onto some false hope that I could change him and that once I’d fixed that long list of things, he would be perfect. Misguided, but I think love clouds judgement and logic. 🤷🏻♀️
So try to help me understand here, why do women believe it's their job to change anybody? Why do they think they're so much higher in morals or actions to think they can change a man? Isn't this a God complex?
Maybe we want to be let go of instead but they won't let us go. Sometimes its hard letting them go. But self sabotaging often works in my favor until I get to be free again
Usually these guys are already letting women go, but the women can't and keep trying with them until they really get hurt.
Im just speakin for myself then ig because when its the wrong dude, i feel trapped but ion like breaking hearts so sometimes i go the immature route and self sabotage until they leave me instead. Then i get to be free without feeling guilty
Because women have this delusional desire to “change” the bad boy... to be the magical vagina that makes an asshole become a good guy.
It never happens but they are so beyond delusional, they refuse to let go of the fantasy.
Meanwhile, they turn down the good guys.
I'm gonna have to read all these opinions cause every guy that I love is a jerk
Sad.
thats my life for ya! lmao
If you want to “love” guys like that than be my guest. But just remember when they screw you over (and they will) you have no one but yourself to blame. The writing was on the wall.
@globetrotter22 um ik lmao
Yeah ha ha
@LexiXide do you like physical abuse?
Me too
Currently with one of those
@Theabcking its more mental abuse
At least you girls are being honest. But again remember:
1) Women have the power to accept or reject. And you made voluntary decision to do this.
2) This will go from bad to worse with these guys. You won’t “change” them
3) These are getting rewarded for doing the exact opposite of what women “say” they want. Is any wonder why so many men hate feminism and distrust female dating advice
4) You passed up several good opportunities with decent men along the way.
5). When you finally do get burned enough to walk away from this just remember you could of easily walked away in the beginning. But you didn’t. You are NOT a victim. This is your damn fault.
@LexiXide Are these men actual jerks or they just do that stuff in the bed? They're just telling you that to get you horny? I don't think you like jerks. You still want the guy to be presentable and nice when he first meets you and when you decide you like him you want him to talk like that. Like a fetish thing. Like a random guy walking up to you and talking shit you would ignore him I think. You have to get to know him and then you give him the okay.
yeah lexi me to been all jerks or users or cheated to get money and sex last one emotional abused me but hit me i also hit me but i did it back
@globetrotter22 It’s the trying to change a guy part that is so irritating about women. Because what makes you think you are so much more put together than a guy that you can try to change him? What makes you think you’re better or more moral to believe you could fix somebody? It's a joke.
@Beatrix7 im so sorry 4 you
lexi doll same back am sorry for u to
man on fire some men not all try to rule women to control them change them its when the womens gained his trust not just you guys that go through it its annoying for us gals to u know
@Beatrix7 what you just said makes absolutely no sense. But if you want to dive head first into self destruction be my guest. But don’t come crying to us when you get screwed over (and you will).
@globetrotter22 only girls understand. when we answered this question we didn't ask for you to scold us about our decision in men
thank you lexi see leci understands what i mean and there is no need for scolding us globetrotter
@Beatrix7 @LexiXide but women do scold men. In fact you have a whole f*cking movement devoted to doing that called feminism. And what do men get when they do what women “say” they want? As you both admitted above rejection.
So It’s no wonder why men don’t want to listen to women. You are lying to us about what you want because more often then not you lying to yourselves about you REALLY want.
and what do women get when women do what men say and want listen to me right now a dont lie ok a tell the truth u awt to have seen the guys i was with lied to his fucki_ self and me cheated used for money we get nothing when we do what you want i play fair in relashionships because it takes 2 to tangle or it goes nowhere nd a want a good lover but its gonny be hard to find on we gain ure trust and u fk us up
I think you're just being very stereotypical and don't cuss at us we don't deserve to be treated like that you know women aren't all the same @globetrotter22
We just answered the question we didn't need you to tell us how poor decisions are
Just so sad this all a zero sum game.
@globetrotter22 wym?
It’s just sad that as a man I have can choose to be either a predator (an asshole) or the prey (genuine nice guy).
Tbh there have a few rare times in my life I’ve been the predator. I was in a different mindset and feeling more aggressive. I wanted one thing and one thing only from the women I did these to. I wasn’t “nice” about it. I just (consensually) went for it not caring about their feelings. Just my own needs.
Now that is unfortunately not how I normally am. I was in an altered mindset. But it was insane and very sad how women got turned on by that bullshit.
The “prey” is the genuine nice guy. He isn’t being fake either. He really cares and listens to what women say and want. He thinks twice about his actions and whether or not they can hurt woman’s feelings. He gets lots of verbal praise but he dries women up because to them he’s “boring”. They think just giving him verbal platonic compliments and the friéndzone is rewarding him somehow. It’s actually deeply insulting him.
Now there are rare “gentlemen”. He’s like the nice guy but he’s gifted to be a quick thinker and has very strong intuition on what to say and timing. But only 3% or less of guys have that. And you can’t expect the other 97% to be that either. But women do expect that mind reading ability.
Desperation, following their feelings, and having low self esteem.
But what they don't get is that their 'feelings' aren't true love for the guy. It's an infatuation.
Most adult of both genders don't even understand that.
As a woman myself I consider myself as a chaser when I like someone. We hold onto the person we like because we "try" to make ourselves believe that he is really busy and couldn't get time to communicate, meet. But when a woman is done with all bullshit she never looks back. It's is how it is. It's just we tend to make our love story in our minds like a fairy tale where women bear with everything and gets her love in end and a happy ending.
because they prob feel that if they were good enuf for him and loved him enough that he would change and would discover how awesoem she is. like she has the ability to fix him or heal him etc.
Because women love Drama and chaos, that's why they're not interested in good men because they probably want to enjoy peace and silence.
Once they hit the wall with 30 years old or even earlier then they will pretend to want a nice man because they want them Simp bucks
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The guys were either good-looking or wealthy. It's a mentality to not date socially inferior guys than popular guys. Changing him draws a mental satisfaction. Plus a large section of girls are bad too and they find similar traits attractive.