Do girls like physically weak guys?

[Anonymous]

What do girls find attractive in guys? Are there any girls who get attracted to weak guys? What can be the main reason if it? Do you have any ideas? Is this a modern woman preference?

Totally

As long as he is weaker than me

I'd like to be the same

I prefer a guy stronger than me

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This question was more about needing evidence for my already existing theory that women prefer strong men. It wasn't serious enough to need so many votes. Yet it reached 100 in a few days. However one other featured poll is still stuck at 63 votes months later. From the rich Rockefeller family, which girl is the cutest? ↗

[Guy13]

Exactly, as bubblegunn expressed it has been my experience. And you don't have to be some over dramatized thug star. The most dangerous guy I know can be blown over by the wind BUT all those target on the 3 acres... and the sniper vision makes him a safe guy to be around... or at least to share a bed with for the woman.

Personally, i have learned to diffuse highly pressured situations with a clear step-up but with a calm energy. But I can end it quite quickly and have some knife marks but much more chilled now... with career and stuff like that to protect. I possess a couple skill sets though...

[Asker]

Thanks for the mho😍

[Tracker1958]

With women saying this, why do single mother not teach their son to be strong men? Remember that half of the men are raised by single mothers. These mothers are raising the men that women don't want to date.

[MCheetah]

Most women don't like any weakness in men whatsoever; mentally, physically, height-wise, and even financially. And why TF would they?

[Kingofkings1992]

Women do not expect men to be perfect. Stop being so cynical because you don’t have a woman.

[MCheetah]

If you say so.

[Asker]

I don't even know what your opinion is about, I just choose a random mho.

by the way if you try repeating mho real fast, you might accidentally say mjomhomhohomohomosexual.

[oh_k789]

@Kingofkings1992 It's not about perfection, so much as to be a quality tool.
You are a tool for them (even subconsciously), and a tool must meet certain conditions of effectiveness, ability, ableness, ...

[Kingofkings1992]

@oh_k789 ok. We can say that about them too.

[Moose304]

Please allow me to respectfully season your comment a bit. Women generally don't ((RESPECT)) weak men. They settle with them. I had some friends over yesterday and we watched the CFB games and had some food and beer for some. One of these guys is a Diesel Mechanic who had his wife leave him over the holiday. She monkey branched into a relationship with a man that made more money. We are doing our best to cheer the poor bastard up, but it has been difficult.

[Kingofkings1992]

@Moose304 ok, some women are like that. That’s fair, but not all of them

[Moose304]

@Kingofkings1992 It would take me a while to list them from memory. I would imagine over the last 40 or so years I know of around 250 breakups and divorces. Notice I said to know of not that I was involved. The largest amount of them I would be willing to bet is 2 maybe 3 to 1 started by the female. The last few in EVERY case she monkey branched into a relationship with a higher-value guy. Listen I am not MGTOW, and I don't keep blue and red pills around. I woke up this morning with a beautiful redhead beside me. I am almost at the point of a sigh when I get into this subject. I wish it was different, but females generally don't respect weak men. They settle with them. I have a lot of female friends who are 50+ in age. In fact, I will be spending some time late this afternoon with several of them going over some Christmas plans. Several of these women are divorced now. EVERY ONE of them now regrets leaving the best man they ever had. A while back one told me of speaking to her 30-something daughter who was about to throw her husband away because she started a relationship with some Chad type all of us know will pump and dump. If you had any idea how much I wish I was in fact wrong! I see this crap with my own eyes. Don't believe me? Go watch some of the TIC TOK videos of single moms who were pumped and dumped. They are all over that website.

[Kingofkings1992]

@Moose304 when did I ever say women like weak men? I said women don’t expect perfection from men. And men who think they do are just immature and bitter. A woman who leaves for another man who makes more money is superficial, and not even worth being with anyway.

[allogenis96]

No matter how big or strong or how much steroids a man has, it won't be enough to stop a bullet from a gun killing you.

[BlueScorpio]

Bro we need to get you together mentally, you are too young to be this negative in life. It's going to shorten your years if you keep holding onto this anger.. you gotta let it go man. I really think you need to turn to God about this, you're always downing yourself and it needs to stop.

[MCheetah]

@Moose304
Okay. "Respect" over "like." That's fair.

@Kingofkings1992
Most women want the closest thing they can get to perfection. They just won't ever admit to it. They'll never call it "perfection." But they'll typically want the tallest, most successful, wealthiest men they can find, and you're deluded if you think most women are happy with mediocre. Even Moose304 agrees with me, here.

[Kingofkings1992]

I mean you can say that, but I still know for a fact that’s not true.

[Kingofkings1992]

@BlueScorpio I agree. He’ exhaustingly negative

[coachTanthony]

Yes they ask all the time about that shy guy on here and how they can get their attention.

[Cynicaldreamer]

I'm going to be blunt, so if this offends anyone? Tough. The asker requested honesty-

NO. I am not, nor have I ever been attracted to physically weaker men. If I can bench press you, or you can't protect me in an emergency? I am not impressed.

And no, I'm not saying he needs to be muscular or have a six pack either! Just physically strong enough to defend himself and if need be, myself. Better still, just in decent shape: not as thin as a toothpick, but not a couch potato either. Just... healthy.

[Tracker1958]

But you women keep telling us guys that you are strong and independent. You remind us daily that you don't need on man. So maybe it's time for you strong women to start protecting the men. If you ladies want our job, then it's time you ladies start doing our jobs.

[Belgie]

@Tracker1958 You are free to think like that, stay single, grow bitter and die alone.

Or you can listen to her explaining how the world IS, and grow up.

[OpenClose]

@Tracker1958 Damn son don't overthink it.
The point about "I don't need no man" is not them saying "I don't WANT no man". Just that they can be self-sufficient like a man. It's the same as a guy being perfectly fine living the bachelor life, but often still wanting a girlfriend.

My advice on this is to let go of the idea that you have to be "needed" as a man. A lot of guys struggle with the idea of simply being "wanted". It feels uneasy because we are told our purpose for women is primarily utilitarian. Just a bodyguard and a paycheck. And that if we can't serve these duties, we have no value to women and will promptly be abandoned.

There's something nice about it. If women don't NEED men for utilitarian purposes, that means when a girl is into you, she actually WANTS you. You aren't some means to an end. It's you yourself she wants.

I do get the sort of weird standard of wanting to be SEEN as physically strong without actually BEING physically strong. But I'd say that's more about not assuming she's weaker and fragile. It makes her feel like she isn't being taken seriously as an adult.

But, that doesn't mean a big squishy hug from a strong guy doesn't feel good. So I think a lot of it has become more aesthetic than necessity.

Also keep in mind, if this is something you're insecure about (having insecurities is fine. I don't meant that as an insult.), remember that you don't need to appeal to all women if you're only looking for one. A surprising amount of women aren't super bothered by this. Or they might just PREFER a stronger man, not that it is a necessity. The important bit is to take pride in your differences. It shows intentionality in who you are. Like "I MEANT to be like this." It's the difference between an obese guy who is insecure and an obese guy who is a proud connoisseur of food.

[Tracker1958]

@Belgie married 45 years

[Sasha0426]

@Tracker1958 I’ve been single my whole life so I’m pretty much am 😅

[allogenis96]

If you need protection why not buy a gun?

[Sasha0426]

@allogenis96 Not many people are comfortable with guns.

[allogenis96]

A gun won't get drunk and beat a woman, a gun won't act like a deuchbag and abuse the kids, a gun won't get arrested by the police for violent behavior and not be out of prison for the next couple years, leaving the weak brittle lady helpless.

[WhiteBoyChill]

I mean I feel as though no man is truly weak unless they choose to be.

[Tracker1958]

@Sasha0426 GOOD, STAY THAT WAY.

[Sasha0426]

@Tracker1958 I plan to die single, honestly.

[Tracker1958]

@Sasha0426 sign up for some lessons, you will love it, I promise. It is an expensive hobby.

[Sasha0426]

@Tracker1958 If I had the money for it, I would 😅

[Tracker1958]

@Sasha0426 Good, keep it that way. The longer you live alone, it gets to a point that no one can live with you. People get set in a routine and anybody that mess that routine up will set you off. I know 5 men that have stayed single and they are in their 50. No one could live with them.

[Sasha0426]

@Tracker1958 I’m guessing you and these men had bad experiences.

[LEETSBEREAL]

I like to look after my men so he totally doesn't have to be stronger them me. He can't have a problem with me looking after him though. I don't care if he gets into it with another man I am backing him all the way. But guys don't like strong women so what does it matter? The last guy I saved from getting a beating because I didn't want him hurt the guy was going to end him and was worried for his safety - ended it with me on his hospital bed. He said I humiliated him. What? No I saved his life. He said he would of rather died. Mmm must've been the macho type but he didn't behave that way. Men want weak women they can protect and manipulate its the natural order of things. Women want strong men and men want weak women. How can it work in reverse? It's not just `what women want` It's what men want to.

[Dreamclouds]

Wow, you're really awsome

[LEETSBEREAL]

Thank you! At least someone thinks so.

[Dreamclouds]

I doubt I am the only one who thinks so, you are so very impressive and seem so strong but also sensitive and caring. I wish someday I experience such a feeling from a woman, I don't know what violence is so I would probably never hit someone, it is just the way I grew and lived

[LEETSBEREAL]

Well I got dumped for it so it's hard for me to believe that. I wasn't expecting him to end us and it really threw me. But I appreciate you actually saying it and can only hope that there are more out there like you.

[Dreamclouds]

Meh he had an over-inflated ego, maybe for the best, he should have asked you to to marry him. Sorry for your misfortune. How come you are so strong and know how to fight?

[Dreamclouds]

What you did is really romantic, should never be looked upom in any other eay

[LEETSBEREAL]

Oh wow nice thing to say. Thank you seriously. I didn't even want a thank you just to know he was OK and for him to get better. Long story short I got into an altecation of my own. It was traumatizing and from that day on decided I will never be helpless and hopeless and a victim AGAIN weather it was me or a loved one. It would be worse if it was somebody else tbh. That thought alone motivated me. I trained religiously. I fought men religiously I have only ever had 1 female opponent because they are not my biggest threat. Any issues anyone has or I have always ends up being with men so thats where I put all my energy. It was mainly for self defense. I am just a protective person it's my nature. It's like if you know a Doctor your going to keep that person safe regardless of gender because later they might save your life. He was like that to me coz he meant a lot to me. I didn't think about gender roles. He was just important so I did what came natural. I didn't even think about it. All I was thinking is I want him to continue to make me laugh. Coz he was funny. But we weren't on the same page. Society aren't on the same page if all we are thinking is this is my gender so this is what I expect and we don't challenge anything outside of it. Not sure where any of us are going 😕

[Softguy]

You are the best, can i pm You?

[LEETSBEREAL]

@softguy yes you can

[Dreamclouds]

It is actually a nice thing to read, also your process of thought is just so strong and determined, I do think I understand how it is to be vulnerable and how it can affect you to never want that again, of course at least in a way. Your discipline must be also amazazing, your words reflect very well how seriously you take your training. I am really sorry you lost him only for that it is nice to have someone to make us laugh. People are way to conservative about gender roles for sure.

[Softguy]

i can't message You because i'm new here.

[Aserty00]

go to my profile... I could be your ideal man 😅

[allogenis96]

I don't mind and actually like women to be stronger than me, the problem is too many women in the west only want extremely super steroided older and taller guys as if they have a spontaneous concern about being in danger and need some jersey shore steroid addicted violent dick meat head to protect them.

[Softguy]

@allogenis96 lol why you bring the Jersey Shore into this? 🤣🤣🤣

[allogenis96]

@softguy because those are the kind guys that westernized women have a broken fixation on.

[Softguy]

@allogenis96 and then they complain because they are assholes and i'm like well what did you expect? Lol

[andreasderjuengere]

Not all of us 'want' you girls to be weak. I like what you did: robbing banks together (so-to-say) makes a fine bond.

[JDavid25]

"Women want strong men and men want weak women."
That's not the way things are.. Vast majority of women are naturally weaker than men.. Now either you're a trans- woman or some steroid taking woman who lifts 200+lbs at the gym, and trains to fight all the time if you are trying to fight and beat men. But I highly doubt that's the case as you never said that.. He just felt bad because he realized he was a physical weak man so much that his woman had to step in..

[RangerBlue22]

Ah you had a few good points BUT you just had to sneak in some feminist bs attitude with the “Men want weak women they can protect and manipulate its the natural order of things.”

Specifically about the word “manipulate”. I call absolute 110% bullshit on that. Especially if you live in a western country in the 21st century.

No the vast majority of men do NOT look to “manipulate” women by a being physically strong. Rather men act tough and/or build up their physiques because we know at a Freudian level that’s what most women are attracted to.

It’s WOMEN who get to say yes or no when it comes to dating, sex and marriage 95%+ of the time. Not vice versa. We see what you choose to date, sleep with and marry and that is the cue we take to what women really want. But again it’s your choice.

So quit using bullshit phrases like “manipulate”. That comes from a victim hood mentality when it’s women who usually hold all the cards when it comes to romantic decisions. Women generally manipulate men when it comes down to it in many relationships. Not the other way around.

[LEETSBEREAL]

@ Aserty00 - Cool profile 😊

[LEETSBEREAL]

@allogenis96 - Yh I don't know what that's about I don't care about all that. If he is a good guy and treats me right I will look after him.

[LEETSBEREAL]

@andreasderjuegere - Cool not a common mind set

[LEETSBEREAL]

@JDavid25 No you don't have to be either of the things you mentioned as a woman to take down men. So that's why I didn't mention it because. Well it's not the case at least for me. I can't speak for other women. Although this is a part of the problem lack of understanding. a lot of Men seem to think unless the woman is on steroids or some shit she can't take down men and her doing so is completely reliant on strength. It helps me because I am constantly underestimated so it gives me the upper hand. One really needs to look at jujitsu and other fighting styles similar to that. You don't have to be stronger then a man to take him down you just need to train a certain way, muscle memory ahhh I can go on. I love this shit I can talk it all day if women were more interested in self defense I would teach this shit. But no. Apparently that's your job. No woman wants to defend herself as a guy will always be there to do it and some men endorse it so they are part of the problem period.

You say it's not the case and he is upset because his woman had to step in. Does that not mean he wants the opposite? A woman who would not step in. Such a woman would be a weak one. Which is what he wanted.

[LEETSBEREAL]

@RangerBlue22 my apologies I didn't add context to what I said so you've taken this in another direction. I am not a feminist at all. When I said that I was talking specifically about women beaters because believe it or not there are men out there who brag and boast about beating the shit out of women it's a joke for them and it angers me deeply. They are manipulative. I had a friend who was in an abusive relationship. I dealt with her problem. But she took him back in the end yh she's not the brightest going back but how did he get her to go back? Through manipulation. That's what I meant I am not referring to anything else. Your talking on something else. We are not on the same page.

[RangerBlue22]

@LEETSBEREAL

Alright thank you for that clarification. I do not like women beaters any more than you do.

But let’s ask an honest question here. Why is that those kind of relationships are still prevalent in the 21st century modern society? Why do some men still get away with it and why do women allow they themselves to stay in that?

The answer is complex. But honestly there is a very ugly psychological masochistic complex that too many women have about this. Women claim that they are attracted to abusive assholes because they are supposedly more confident, attractive and bold. But that’s really a half truth. The ugly flip side the is that these guys validate female insecurities and too many women derive some sort of sick twisted attraction/pleasure from that.

That is a choice to enable that bullshit. That I have a deeply serious problem with.

[Aserty00]

@LEETSBEREAL answer the questions if you like 😊

[JDavid25]

Well, I didn't say you had to be either to take down a man.. You have weapons too.. LOL.. Plenty of women hurt and abuse their male SOs.. Vast Majority of women cannot kill or take down a man with her hands alone though.. Strength is not everything but it's pretty important and when the gap is that large, while yeah.. So basically you are tell me that you became so skilled that you learn to take down bigger opponents? Hmm.. Sounds like a power fantasy to me but yeah.. Also I mentioned steroids because of the Strength.. And well being the stronger sex it usually is our job.. A man can take down a woman in one good hit, women cannot do the same.. That's why I think the conclusion you are coming to is a bit... Interesting.. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for women being able to defend themselves, but it's a fantasy to think hands alone will be that for a woman.. Unless she is super skilled almost a master as some defense against Strength..

And it's not about the woman, it's that he couldn't himself and his woman had to step in like she was his bro.. It's not that he would rather you not have his back, it's that he would rather you not fight his battles as his woman.. He'll be made fun of and it's a huge blow to the ego..

[RangerBlue22]

@JDavid25 it sounded like this guy she protected ended up in the hospital. It was pretty serious.

My ego would be bruised too. But in a life or death situation I wouldn’t mind if a potentially woman saved my life.

[JDavid25]

@RangerBlue22 I wouldn't mind either, that would make me appreciate that she loved me to the point of risking her life.. That's wife material.. If she could beat the guy and I couldn't, that would motivate me to train hard and probably get tested for testosterone also.. Either that or she teach me her skills since she had enough to take down a guy stronger than her.. But the fact that she took down a guy that put him in the hospital would probably hurt my ego just as bad as my body.. That would show me that I'm a really weak man..

[RangerBlue22]

@JDavid25 I’m actually well trained. Had 11 mma fights and won 9 of them. But I never like street fights. Only been in 3 or so in my entire life and this is when I didn’t have a choice. But the look on the dbag’s face when he realized he underestimated me…. it was glorious just saying.

But women often equate verbal aggression with physical aggression from what I’ve seen. They expect a guy to not just physically tough but a wise ass / street smart as well. That’s not something they offer lessons for.

[LEETSBEREAL]

@RangerBlue22 as you have said it's a complex answer. a lot of women have this need to be dominated and I honestly don't get it. But this is a surface issue we all know most women like to be dominated so then it makes sense most women want a man who can protect her. It gets alarming when she wants a man that can hurt her most likely there is some previous abuse or trauma going on and counseling needs to be involved. It's a deeper seated beast where it's beyond domination and we're now talking about serious injury. This is s very twisted issue.

But it's not all women some just generally find themselves in the situation and can't see a safe way out. they feel the safest option is to stay. No one wants to live looking over thier shoulder. Every day every minute and a lot of women would be forced to do that if they leave and are found or he isn't punished for his crimes. Some men are arrested then realeased of course he will come back and any beating you got before likely won't match what's coming.

[LEETSBEREAL]

@JDavid25 Yh I could use weapons but if it happens on the spot. No one walks around with a weapon to hand. You might have something in your house but not on street.

Look I won't go to much into this because I don't know your knowledge level on MMA and different techniques and all of that. But your talking about strength gaps do you know what technical fighting is? Ju-jitsu? There is a reason it's suited to smaller fighters. Skill level. Do you think I started yesterday? If you want to believe this is a fantasy and I am making it up that's up to you. I wish it was. It would hurt a lot less. If I had been lazy like all the women I have come across advised me to be the whole situation would not have happened for me to be even telling this to anyone.

[LEETSBEREAL]

If I was fighting a pro fighter then you would be right I have gone up against pro fighters I am not there yet. I am talking about untrained Tom dick and Harry off the street who have little to non fighting experience. But they usually have very big mouths and egos to match. And yes they do believe they can over power me with no backing other than biology. They don't train. They don't think they need to because they think like you do. Strength isn't everything. One punch can take a woman down yes. But they have to land the punch! You think I am easy to hit? Your basically saying my training doesn't count for anything because strength will out weigh technique. I believed this when I started but I trained anyway, worked anyway. It's what's helped me achieve my level of competence. I am not claiming to be the world's top female fighter but I know a thing or to and I have been training religiously to get to that stage that I am at. I can do better. I am still learning I am sorry if you don't think it can't ever be good enough to the extent I am making this all up.

Ok so your saying he is beating himself up for it getting to the point where he needed my help.

So then it would of been alright if I wasn't his woman and I was his boy backing him. Yh it doesn't really matter how ever you put it.

He didn't want me to fight his battles because I am a woman. I may as well be who you say I am because it didn't help either of us anyway. Perhaps it's society that is the problem. Because all he was worried about is what every one else would think. All I was worried about was to keep him alive so we could be together.

[allogenis96]

@LEETSBEREAL I seriously wish there were more women like you in the world.

[RangerBlue22]

@LEETSBEREAL I seriously believe that over half the domestic violence problems that happen in western countries would of never occurred if it wasn’t for this fucked up complex. EVERYBODY loses because of this shitty female quirk: 1) nice guys get passed up and become increasingly disillusioned 2) girl jumps head first into the dark abyss and comes out psychologically damaged 3) violent and/or abusive assholes get rewarded and enabled for their behavior

Anyway I know not all women are like this. But just too many are. Also feminists never ever own up up to women having this shitty self destructive behavior.

[JDavid25]

Well you could have pepper spray or mace, or a taser.. Lol.. Or a little concealed knife.. Some people do.. But look I'm sorry that I came off the wrong way.. This is the internet and I question everything.. If you really have trained yourself to that level of skill then I have the utmost respect for you..

As for your guy, most women want a man that'll be able to protect them, and most men can and will protect women.. I'mma be honest most men don't want a woman fighting his battles for him, and most women are not exactly like you.. It has nothing to do with not wanting a strong woman, and more to do with the man confidence that he can do what needs to be done.. Also, women usually lose attraction for a man that's not in some way "better" than them especially in the strength department..

[LEETSBEREAL]

@RangerBlue22 a lot of good guys do get passed up for bad boys that's definitely true and then in the end when it hasn't worked out with Mr sexy she will later on settle for Mr good guy. She might cheat on him. Some kind of biological urge to seek the strongest male.

These ass holes do get rewarded for thier behavior that's what pisses me off! My friend went back after I got him out, changed the locks got her to her Mums. Even worked with her mum to get the local authority to move her coz he knows where she lives and may come back. And she goes back to him after all that. She takes him back. Thankfully her mum got full custody of the kids so she lost her children but it was for the best coz I went to hug them and they were fretting so I know he's been hitting them to. That made me more mad. I am upset at women who allow this to happen to themselves and thier supposed loved ones.

Own up to it for what? To own up to that is to admit failure. This whole thing does not fit in with the independence movement. It contradicts it. To much of a mess to clean up here so what do you do with a mess you can't clean? You brush it under the carpet hide it the best you can and just pray no body notices. 🙏🏾 and this is not a topic that is ever brought up so it's being hidden pretty well.

[LEETSBEREAL]

@JDavid25 I thought you meant something like a baseball bat when you said weapon.

I appreciate what your saying it is the internet and people say all kinds of shit. So I see where you are coming from. I get it.

When I was training I asked guys to fight me like I was a man. They didn't take me seriously. For a long time. That protective side your talking about but that's not going to help me when I run into someone dangerous who really wants to hurt me.

They only took me seriously when they realized. She is slowly starting to get better. Fuck she might actually beat me. Can't lose to a woman. You see the change in mindset?

When I couldn't defend myself let's say when I started I was let's say on the market, viable, attractive. Because I needed 'protecting'. The minute that changed and I became anything close to a competitor I lost my viablitlity, attractiveness that all died.

It's the same thing women do to men only now it's reversed. And it can't be helped a man's role is to protect a woman. Not that all men protect women. Some abuse this dynamic.

Men protecting women is an out dated concept If you really want to protect your woman you would encourage her to train in self defense because you are not with her 24-7 if she is alone and gets hurt she will blame your for not being there.

[LEETSBEREAL]

What I am saying is a woman that can look after herself and potentially her SO she should be more attractive because she is taking a huge pressure off him however it appears some men would prefer to carry this pressure alone, die for it even as he no longer wants her if there is any indication she can take the role of the protector.

The fact of the matter is I trained in order to protect myself. Self defense. Not for this bullshit situation it just happened to happen. So I learnt this the hard way.

It was never about being able to beat up men it was about being able to keep myself and others if need be safe. I didn't feel I could achieve that limiting myself to women.

You say it's not because he doesn't want a strong woman it's because he didn't want me fighting his battles for him. So then that beggers the question what is the definition of a strong woman? Because it would of been fine if I was his boy right? My gender is what makes what I did wrong and the fact that we were together.

I mean the only strong women you ever hear about are the ones that survive abuse. So mental strength. All women do is take abuse and survive it. Thats our role? To be weak, fragile and need saving? I'm tired of this narrative.

I am not looking to survive. I am looking to live.

I guess I was just never the right woman for him because he wanted to do the protecting where as to me it made no difference who did what.

But it's a two way thing women play into it and men support it. So it will never change.

[LEETSBEREAL]

@allogenis96 That means so much to me. Thank you

[RangerBlue22]

Thanks for admitting that @LEETSBEREAL

I am just saying that it’s not the fault of “patriarchy” some women make such asinine and extremely stupid dating decisions. They jump head first into the dark pit and later cry victim about it. That is something feminists completely ignore and play dumb too. They always somehow someway make up a bullshit excuse for that behavior.

[JDavid25]

" All women do is take abuse and survive it. Thats our role? To be weak, fragile and need saving? I'm tired of this narrative."

Well first, I wanna say no problem.. But yeah no I'm not saying that women should be weak, and fragile at all because there's a lot of women who are not weak and fragile.. Like I said I'm all for women being able to defend themselves.. But you are an anomaly and even then no matter how good you trained, you can never get past a certain limit that you have.. That's why I mentioned weapons because some women are too small, too dainty, and too fragile to make up for the difference in strength by fighting.. I'm not saying that women should stay that way, I'm saying that women are that way in comparison to men.. This world has been around longer than you or I have even been thought of, and you don't think there haven't been women trying to learn self defense throughout history?

You're not the only strong woman in the world.. What I mean by strong is a woman with the strength capable of persevering.. Whether it be through learning to defend her family or just having the strength of mentality and character..

"Men protecting women is an out dated concept"
It will never be outdated because men will always be stronger and more physically imposing than women.. I grew up with a single mother who I thought was superwoman and a lot of strong women personalities.. So I respect a woman that knows how to take care of herself.. I'm just being realistic..

[RangerBlue22]

I’ve seen women compete with men in martial arts countless times. Not in professional situations (that will not get sanctioned) but in sparring all the time. I can tell you that even if they are the same size, age, athleticism, etc. then the guy wins 99 out of 100 times. Our muscle fibers and bone density are genetically designed differently. 10 pounds of lean muscle mass on a male is much more fiber dense than the exact same amount on a woman.

So yes even though it’s very unfair on some unfortunate naturally physically weak male there is a FACTUAL REASON why men are expected to be stronger than women. This is why it is so humiliating to men if they weaker than females they encounter.

BUT physical strength does NOT guarantee your ability to inflict or defend physical damage. A well trained 130lb 5’ 6’’ man in martial artist would abosolutely wreak a 220lb 6” body builder in a fight.

[LEETSBEREAL]

@RangerBlue22 Yh it is what it is. No point denying shit just to save face but that is the problem when people feel attacked they go into defense mode rather then admit fault. I would say the only way forward is to come with a solution but no one wants to hear a solution so it's like a never ending vicious cycle. On and on and on. You can't spend to long thinking about shit like this coz it's not healthy. If there is anything I have learned even in this situation is that you can offer help but you can't expect one for people to take it and two for them to be thankful. Anything you do in life you decide to do so you must live with the consequences good or bad.

[LEETSBEREAL]

@JDavid25 Your talking about a limit but your talking like its something that is a massive concern. It's not against an average Joe. Even for these women that you mention that can change if they put the work in. They can build muscle, strength and stamina I am not saying to an extent that they will be stronger then thier male equivalent but you keep coming back to strength and I keep telling you that strength is not what you use to take down an opponent bigger then you. I don't know why your so fixated on strength your not paying attention to what I am saying.

The chances are the women you mention won't do the work and yes a weapon can be useful and that's why I thought you would come up with a baseball bat but a pepper spray or taser I don't see as a weapon. A knife I wouldn't suggest because of the lose of life risk which is not the aim here but it's a weapon never the less. Better suggestion then the taser or pepper spray.

I am not doubting what women have tried to do historically but I am talking about now what women need to do.

[LEETSBEREAL]

Hey a woman can even train with some nunchucks if she wants even with that if she's taking it seriously she'll put some training behind it to maximize her damage power but very few women are vicious by nature so I am not even going down this route.

Perhaps you are being realistic in that women won't do the work and so there for no will not be able to defend themselves but not in that they can't achieve some level of self defense if they do put in the work and push proper training that will enable her to defend herself out on the street or anywhere a situation could occur and get out of hand. She doesn't need to be stronger. But she does need to do the work. It's not an overnight thing.

[Softguy]

You are the best 😘

[JDavid25]

"I don't know why your so fixated on strength your not paying attention to what I am saying."

Believe it or not strength plays a huge part in fighting encounters.. I am paying attention to what you are saying, and I specifically said that you are an anomaly.. If you do what you say you can do, most women won't train like you, and if they do train it'll have to be to a point where they are a master to be able to knock down even an average male.. But it's not just about strength, but also about reaction speed, bone density, etc..

Also well, what are pepper sprays, mace, and tasers, if not weapons? A woman can't just carry around some big bat, or nunchuks just to try and beat some guy.. I mentioned those above because they are practical.. LOL.. And elements of surprise.. An attacker won't hardly see them coming..

[LEETSBEREAL]

@JDavid25 - I believe it strength does play a huge part in fighting encounters but your talking like its the only card you can play against an average Joe and that's the end of it. It's not.

As Mohammed Ali said 'Float like a butterfly' that's speed and reflexes 'Sting like a bee' that's strength. It means they work hand in hand. If you can't skin a cat one way, just try another. If your fast you exhaust your opponent before you take them down we all know the bigger your opponent the harder they fucking fall. Men carry more weight so they exhaust quicker. There is a pressure point behind the leg if you hit it with enough force your opponent will go down. There are different pressure points like this all over the body which enables one to force the other into submission. So no knock out is needed.

Your not wrong strength is important and anyone with it will instantly have the upper hand but it's not the only way to take down your opponent granted it takes longer granted more work will need to put in and granted failures can happen. Being smaller one cannot afford to get hit but if your precision your reflexes and your speed and against an average Joe who can only throw heavy punches but can't land a single shot up against a well trained BJJ woman and I don't even have to be talking about myself this is any woman who has accepted herself and worked and capitalize on her strengths.

[LEETSBEREAL]

They both work hand in hand but depending on who you are you need to play to your strengths.

No she has to put in the work. Women have to train and they need to train the right way. There are no short cuts and any woman can do it.

What? You can get fold up base ball bats have you seen the size of the bags women carry? they can get a bat in there trust me esp a fold up one.

Tazer, pepper spray fine but it's not the only way a woman can protect herself and she'll be looking over her shoulder. She only needs to put the work in. any woman any size. Its a lot of work though. If she isn't prepared to do the work. It won't happen.

[LEETSBEREAL]

@Softguy - Thank you

[RangerBlue22]

@LEETSBEREAL you got some common sense with a few things. thanks. But did you always think that way or did it hit you in your 30s?

The reason I ask this is because I notice women in their 30s usually go in one of two directions. They either learn some hard lessons and accept reality for what it is OR they double down on delusional modern feminist crap.

[LEETSBEREAL]

@RangerBlue22 I've got common sense full stop. No I have always been like this. I've always thought like this. I drive some people mad and them me because they want someone to agree with them and I just can't if it's not the case but I always explain why I can't. I don't just say things for the fun of it. Just like I don't do things for the fun of it. I've spent my life going in MY direction. I don't follow other people. Hard lessons are for those with a hard head. Only an idiot goes ahead with something that ends in. 'I told you so.' Sometimes you give people advice from a good place but they always think they know better. When it goes to shit. That's a hard lesson for a hard head. They chose to ignore the advice so. They only have themselves to blame when it goes wrong no one else.

[RangerBlue22]

It really comes down to arguing WHAT is right vs. BEING right. There is a major difference. But a lot go stupid egotistical people can’t understand the difference.

Sometimes to figure out what is right you might discover you were previously wrong.

[RangerBlue22]

Unless you are Brienne of Tarth in Game of Thrones virtually ALL women want a man stronger and more physically capable then them. Even if they can hold their own they still want that. It just gives them a sense of security and makes them feel safer in their femininity.

Only extremely rare exception would be a hyper-masculine butch lesbian who took a rare liking to a man. She’s used to being the “stud” in the relationship so maybe that would work out. But it better be a really feminine guy for her to feel any attraction. There has to be balance and polarization

But women usually equate verbal toughness with physical toughness. Guy’s can usually see through the bullshit better on this. But not every guy was born a wise ass and street smart. That’s sadly a much more complicated issue.

[Looksnicholas]

I totally hope so, I'm the guy in the GAG picture chosen in the home page for that question of yours, the guy struggling to lift a dumbbell, indeed I am that guy without glasses haha, sort of.

I personally like to think petite women (short legs small height) might prefer us weak men. E. g. maybe I could date some small statured woman who's also my age 28 or maybe she's 24 minimum. And maybe they look at us weak but tall guys favourably, I hope. I'm 6 foot 1.

In weak, but surely I must seem a little alluring, surely :P it's my spiky gel hair surely

[Looksnicholas]

And I am comfortable how I am. I could always be better, sure, but I am happy enough 🙂 and that's all that matters to me 👀♂️😋

[Looksnicholas]

*I'm weak. And I voted Totally. I'm glad to see the amount of 5 so far women who said so too.

[Looksnicholas]

@asker great question

[AdithyaR]

Oh this was a tough question to read.
While i do believe I am physically strong, I've practiced martial arts for years.
But i despise violence. I'm the kind that would rather take a punch that give it cause if i give in to the urge to resort to violence, I'm no better than the instigator and I'd consider myself to have failed.
Considering the women who answered here said they preferred a stronger man to protect them, I'm unsure if I'd fit that cause I'd rather just avoid the fight. If i can't diffuse the fight, I'd rather let myself get hurt than hurt others.

[JDavid25]

I'm sure there would be a different reaction if a person hurt somebody you loved and cared about..

[AdithyaR]

Even then, my priority would be getting my partner or friend out of that situation. I still wouldn't be able to bring myself to fight.
If need be, I'd rather sue the attacker for assault.

[_Cherrypie__]

I'd honestly feel like protecting someone like that, as cheesy as that sounds.

But then again, I'm pretty vulnerable and weak too. '-'

It would also make me feel very masculine? Sometimes I'd enjoy that feeling, but some other times I'd prefer being the one that's protected and being taken care of.

Above all else, I want the person I'm attracted to think I'm somewhat cute. If the guy would find me too aggressive or say I'm not "girly" enough for dresses, then it's a no-

[NeverknowNeverTell]

there is are plenty of girl who are into skinny guys, especially in GenZ. for example there's the soft boy aesthetic, the cute nerd guy, the skinny goth etc. normally those girls are the soft girl book worm type. they would be better for you though.

I personally am an artsy bimbo who likes thicc guys, so I'm between option C and D. I want them to be fit but not so muscular that they can bash my skull in.

[Lionman95]

The true answer is no. People might they do but not for a relationship if that´s what you´re looking for.

(I hate to learn the hard way, too)

[Lionman95]

I mean I had to learn it the hard way, too. Don´t know what happened there...

[Asker]

I'm just joking with this question. Of course they don't.

[bubblegunnn]

I want a guy who can protect me in many ways, so i would be safe around and when i be with him, cuz i believe he gonna protect me

[_Troian_]

Well it's evolutionary thing, as a man u have responsibilities for the society which comes up with the masculine traits and in order to be masculine u gotta be strong both physically and mentally. Even if some women doesn't accept it I believe actually all of them like the idea of getting dominated in their lower brains, so give it to them.

[CubsterShura]

Being physically weak isn't an attractive trait. However, you may find other things attractive in a man who happens to not be the strongest and that's fine.

[CubsterShura]

Dude women prefer strong men is not a theory, it's a fact everyone already knows.

[BlueScorpio]

Most women like men to be stronger than them cause it makes them feel safe if danger arises. The only time women don't like it is when the man is the danger.

[allogenis96]

Why do you need a hypermasculine steroid junkie to feel safe? Just buy a gun.

[BlueScorpio]

@allogenis96 where did say a guy needed to be like that? I didn't say that, you did lol and guns I don't know for me personally I don't think I can trust myself with that type of weaponry. Not that I hurt myself or anyone, but I'm just cautious about accidents. I barely like holding a knife sometimes lol

[allogenis96]

A gun isn't going to get violent and abuse you, a gun isn't going to get drunk and come home late

[allogenis96]

Also most of you americanized women want guys like that

[Anonymous]

I am going to assume you want an honest answer here. We do not like physically (or mentally) weak guys.

[Asker]

It was a troll question..

[Opinion Owner]

Ok so you're a weak minded troll

[Asker]

Yes, and weak bodied.

[Asker]

But it's a good question isn't it? Many others learn and have great discussions on here.

[Sour-rose]

About the same honestly. Any stronger than me and I'm going to have images of waking up with him with 5 other guys standing around me with pillows... and it is not for fun times.

[inhua]

if girls liked physically weak guys there wouldn't be such a thing as the "patriarchy"

[Rania05]

I like guys who're younger and a little shorter but weaker? Weaker than my frail and spoiled self? No way, Imma backing away

[The_Shadow_Dweller]

This is natural, I think. You are right to think that way.🙂✌️💯

[melanieeeB]

I personally don't at all. I want someone who is mentally and physically strong and also look like that.

[Randy888]

I mean im not a girl but i prefer guys with strong arms that can crush me like a aluminum can.. But some ladies might like weaker guys who knows, According to the poll a sizeable amount of women do like "weak" guys

[R_i_a]

Depends on the person. whether they are good or bad. Not everything depends on bed.