Do you think self improvement Male thing is getting out of control in America?

[DeadEnd_GT]

(I can only speak for America)

Self improvemnt culture in America is simply shallow and creates cold hearted apathetic males. Growing up and even in my fathers time we ate right, did push ups and for jobs physical work. Him and I don't look like fit gods but we are in damn good shape.

So why is it modern self improvement all about excessively consuming an insane amount of protein and building crazy unnatural muscle mass?

In America I notice that being a healthy male that takes care of himself means nothing. Literally the only avice you get as an America male when it comes to dating is BULK up get muscles, muscles, muscles, muscles and spend your life at the gym.

Another thing I notice with both American men and women is that they are cold hearted towards you if you have dating issues but aren't bulking up muscle mass.

I'm in shape, I eat right run and do workout. With that said, I'm only now starting to hate my body as and older man because society hits you so hard that you have to be ultra musclebound. Reddit and every single site literally male bashes you unless you look like some musclebound gigachad actor.

Lastly, nobody teaches males about mental self improvement in America. Our country is the land of depressed pill poppers and school shooters. Seriously if you have to consume excessive food and do excessive workouts just to become an attractive male then something is wrong with society.

[SueShe]

I don't think you can talk about self-improvement but rather about self-destruction and that is not only a desolate issue in the US or North America but in Europe as well. Why?

For one, I cannot judge how it was before the internet but my parents and grandparents have said multiple times that society was different before the internet. People talked with each other rather than to draw the gun when somebody did not agree with an opinion. The US have a very long history of violence and belligerence.

I personally do blame the internet for what is happening in the Western world. While I do agree that the internet has brought a few (I strongly emphasize on the word "few"), the vast majority of the content and the way it is broadcasted in negative. Just think of the leap in criminality that occurred since hackers and other trolls attempt to control the world through it. I think in particular of the big tech giants, including Mr. Musk, Mr. Cook and Mr. Zuckerberg , just to name a few.

The implementation has resulted in society becoming slaves of that media, not being able to think for themselves and having to do what a few bimbos and "influencers" dictate.

It is sad to realize that both genders have somehow taken the internet and its content as gospel for the way of life. That includes all the negative topics you mention.

If only we could go back to the pre-internet time. Alas, this is not possible unless humans realize that they harm themselves much more by keeping it than it will ever help. If I had the powers, I would prevent internet from ever being launched...

[PrettyPriya]

I will note that I am not American. Honestly, I didn't know this was a thing. I would find someone that as you stated "a healthy male that takes care of himself" to be a redeeming quality. I personally value my health and take it very seriously. So does my husband.

We both exercise regularly, are active when not at work and eat very healthy 95% of the time. I don't think I could be with someone that didn't value their health in the same way that I do.

I do not try to "bulk up" or whatever you are claiming American guys do for obvious reasons. I exercise to stay toned. My husband (Australian) used to go for bulk because he played rugby. Nowadays, he works out with the intention of creating toned or lean muscle because it is healthier and he doesn't actively play sports like he used to.

I don't know what this has to do with dating though. I would not find someone that looks like they live in the back room of the gym attractive. That is just me though.

[PraviteliNahuiValite]

They forget that it's all about balance. They may be right that action has to be taken, they focus on the masculine, but the feminine hippy is missing in them.

Crazy amounts of protein won't make you build more muscle mass than just natural amounts of protein. And by naturally I mean we aren't supposed to eat cake and candy. Instead of some sugary hot chocolate, it's even more affordable for me to keep goats, milk them, ferment the milk, and get a liquid containing probiotics, multi vitamins, and highly bioavailable protein (not that it's creatine or glycine, but better than processed dead powders) which I like the taste of and it digests well, It has more protein than fats or carbs. So then when there is snow all around and no plants grow, I have no choice but to eat protein rich animal foods. I wish I could go by vegetarian and not slaughter anyone. The nature forces you to get exercise and go outside, breathe air and get sunlight.

This costs less dollars than buying gym memberships, breathing indoor air, using biomechanically incompatible machines, buying processed biologically incongruent protein powders stored in plastic (EDC) bottles...

With that said, they're obviously the ones more obsessed, and from my own experience having less success in fitness too. But they do have a valid point.. that is 93% of all Americans are shown to be metabolically unfit. At least they're trying to do something about it. When many others are just sitting back on the couch. Reminds me of government controlled oppositions, neither extreme is right.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Most American men are not body builders or even gym rats, thats extremely rare, and most of us also aren't apathetic toward the plights of others either.

Mental improvement is far more common than physical improvement in the US, and obesity rates, cancer, and heart attack are the largest health issues.

[Guy13]

Yes. It is way out of control 😢 let’s join hands and 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭