Why are women so hyper focused on a man's income?

[Anonymous]

[Summeroflove]

This TOTALLY depends on the woman we’re talking about. Look men who are self made and are making good money who are financially responsible AVOID these women. Unless they’re the type who are naive. However, the men with self respect get used a few times and learn from it. Now, yes some men will use women for sex especially if they can throw them a bone to keep them coming back. But that’s not genuine.

That is why narcissistic women become so bitter with men. Because the type of men they want reject them. But the men they don’t want and don’t respect are they ones they are stuck with.

The women who have zero ambition number one. They provide absolutely zero value to a man’s life. When you’re talking “high value men” (or a woman) they want someone who adds value. Not just takes away value.

For instance. A woman doesn’t have to always be rich herself but being financially irresponsible is a MAJOR turn off for men who have money. A woman can not have a lot of money but be responsible and manage it well. Allowing her and her man to build together and she may even take over the role of being sort of the accountant so to speak. Not to say you can’t have nice things if you can afford it. But the ones who think money is simply to fund their lifestyle and blow it all. Not know how to invest money or be responsible.

So the narcissistic women who only care about money. Men who are smart know that women who are narcissistic lack the ability to form genuine connections and lack empathy. Meaning if he’s stressed out form working she would provide zero emotional and mental support. There would be no encouraging words. There would be no massage. There would be no shoulder to cry on. Nothing but shutting down with negativity.

These men know the only way to win with a narcissistic individual is to cut that narcissistic person completely out of their life and never put up with their bullshit ever again. No matter how entitled and arrogant they act.

They also know if there was a situation where he lost money or anything happens his woman would be gone. Off to the next person and the next thing until she screws him.

So what happens to the failed gold diggers? Well unfortunately…. They settle. They settle for the men who are providers. Who are hard workers but aren’t as aware of the tactics of the narcissistic women because maybe they haven’t experienced it as much. They will use that drive they have to protect and provide to try and get their wants and needs met that way. Those marriages never tend to end very well even if they last a decade or two. They typically end in financial ruin for both persons.

Because they’re just broke women with no ambition. With a BROKE mindset.

[Summeroflove]

Now. A woman whose ambitious about her family. Manages money very well and assists her husband in all his endeavors. Working equally as hard in a different role as her husband. That’s NOT someone whose a bum.

It’s just narcissistic women who. Let’s face it… Probably only work part time jobs and have a OF account. With the little money they have they blow it and spend it.

Men who genuinely have money learn quickly that these women are liability’s NOT assets.

Now the men just wanting sex. Like I said. They may give them some nice gifts sometimes so they can use them. But those men lack integrity and honor.

[Summeroflove]

They aren’t seeking a genuine relationship. They’re seeking a bailout and a ATM. Some of the more nefarious ones even get off to blowing a man’s money and hard work away.

But this isn’t all women dude. There are women who seek genuine connections and relationships. Who can build those. The ones too focused on money. You’re dodging a bullet if those women don’t want you.

Not to say dark personality’s can’t fake it. But eventually once their true colors shine through. Which happens eventually the men will run

[Summeroflove]

So. They can’t find a millionaire or billionaire who genuinely wants anything to do with them long term. They will let’s say seek a man whose maybe not super rich but he works hard and makes enough money to live semi comfortably.

Until she comes along and spends every dime he makes. The kids are on food programs but she’s blowing money on designer clothes.

Yes, I’ve seen things like this happen. People of value want someone who ADDS value. And they won’t settle especially ones that have high honor and self respect.

I am talking women too. Who are let’s say “high value” they are the same way. They are high value because they have self control. They don’t let people violate their boundaries. They don’t give into temptations that many people give into.

[Summeroflove]

And these people aren’t about to let some entitled bitch baby loser come and ruin it for them.

[ManOnFire]

Really good points here, I agree.

"men who are self made and are making good money who are financially responsible AVOID these women."
- This is me to the max. I had experience with a cheap, sleazy woman a long time ago who just wanted a guy to buy her expensive shit. That taught me what to look out for, and I have not made that mistake again ever since.

[Summeroflove]

@ManOnFire I agree and it’s one thing if a woman doesn’t have a lot of money. But she can work hard both in a job or if she was to stay home one day. She manages money well and is responsible.

She is ambitious. She knows how to invest money and make it grow. Not only see money the way broke low rent people see it as only a means to fund your lifestyle. But they blow the money and can’t manage it

[Summeroflove]

@ManOnFire the women who are just bumming man to man… Though. These women use sympathy. She can’t work a full time job because this ther or the other. She’s a entitled narcissist who thinks she’s a princess.

A lot of these women though will play on your heart and make you think she loves you when she doesn’t and when she’s cut off she becomes bitter and you see her for what she is

[Fgfggghhhhhhhjjj]

Girls 18

[Summeroflove]

@Fgfggghhhhhhhjjj what?

[ManOnFire]

If they can see that the guy is visibly living well and has a good job, they will be focused on that without a doubt. And they will try to take advantage of that, or at least hope they can have that opportunity.

But the vast majority of women are having sex with men who make little to no money simply because these guys tickled them with their humor, charm, or bad lifestyle. Keep in mind that women are attracted to men of badness because they believe it is a sign of him being strong or smart. And a lot of women hold on to these low value men - and give them sex - even more if they can see that he's trying to pull away, is not appreciating her, or moving in the direction of another woman. They will fight for these dudes without any focus on their income, but will try to set those fake income standards for men who are already doing well for themselves.

[Anonymous]

Only Golddiggers are hyper focused on a man's income. Most women just want financial stability but that doesn't mean the guy has to make a large amount of money for the woman to be interested. He just has to show that he will be able to be a provider for his family. That could be with just 50k or even 30k if the woman is making equal amount or more.

[Pohjolan]

Is that before or after taxes?

[ManOnFire]

@Pohjolan Good one🤣

[dustybiker2]

Depends on the type of woman you're chasing. If you are chasing the sexy well-put-together who isn't self-secure then you will end up supporting that obsession.

[MisterWack]

To be able to raise a kid with.

Secondly, I normally see my fellow men complaining about women who make more than them in a relationship and this is the first time seeing the opposite…. What?

[MisterWack]

Simply being “you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t”.

[Pumpkinpie222]

I would turn this question back on you and first ask what do you see as the role of a woman in your life? A wife and mother to your children? Do you expect her to work as well? If so, okay but if you don’t then her focus will be on your being able to support her. If not, then a woman may judge your effort and motivation in life based on your income. She may also just be materialistic and think if a man makes a lot of money he will be able to give her whatever she wants. None of this is right but it’s reality. We see men as providers in the most basic sense of biology.

[DishLady]

I think it's often just about not wanting to attach oneself to a deadbeat. If a gal takes the time to be educated and make something of herself she wants to be with a similar type of guy.

Having said that I remember a guy telling me that bc of the type of engineer he is his income was limited to City Employee rates so there are certain circles of women who would not have him. (He was on the spectrum and had several medical limitations that required him to seek certain types of employment, though he's smart as a whip.) He ended up marrying a gal who knows how to manage his quirks (as he manages her quirks) and they lived happily ever after with their two sweet babies and dual income/pension plans. The end...

[HighValue]

Because the majority of women care about resources, not people. They are often not loyal because of that same reason. And, even if she makes good money herself, she will likely be greedy and selfish and think the money she earns is only for her and her entertainment, but the money the man earns is for bills, support, and for HER entertainment. The majority of women are terrible people.

[OneViewpoint]

Well traditionally a woman was dependent on a man and generally had little or no income of her own. So who she married determined her social status and financial well being. That's changed a bit with education, feminism, and equal pay initiatives. But the old ways die hard. Women still see a wealthy guy as a better option for a father and husband than a poor guy. The logic is sound.

[fonduegirl]

Men don't want an independent woman but they don't want somebody who's looking for a provider either. Make it make sense

[OneViewpoint]

@anon1903 ,

That's true for some guys clinging onto the old ways that were good for men (submissive women) but then latching onto feminism when it comes to her making money and paying for stuff. That part of her independence they like a lot.

The same is true for some women who want careers and equal pay and independence but still expect guys to make the first move, plan the dates, pay for the dates, open the car door, etc. etc. etc.

There are always dumbasses in both genders who struggle with change. Inability to change is the defining characteristic of the Conservative brain. And nothing moves slower than social change.

The bottom line is that feminism demands change from men. Well OK, fair enough. But, it also requires change from women too. Any given guy may expect a strong independent career woman to whip out her credit card and pay the tab once in a while. And she may have to start opening the car door for herself. Maybe even change her own flat tire. You want change? Take the good and the bad of change.

[Leon1]

The difference is majority of men now days in this economy don’t get paid enough, both incomes are required due to influx of employees with women and mass immigration cheap labor, incomes are at an all time low but cost of living, Housing demands, goods & services are at an all time high. So while Men still need to do their part ( and being actively dissuaded or tied behind their backs) the female fantasy Larping continues in the most volatile economy meanwhile governments & companies are making great profits.

[OneViewpoint]

@Leon1 ,

Why is it impossible for the majority of people to see the problem here. It's not women entering the workforce or immigrants eating away at our standard of living. It's the out of control fucking income inequality genius. It's the 1% buying control of the government. It's engineered debt from womb to tomb. You need to stop blaming other people like yourself and start laying the blame at the feet of the people sticking a red hot branding iron up your ass on a daily basis.

[Leon1]

Because the influx of women entering the work force Full Time (they always worked) then getting taxed, with influx of immigration inflates the Supply Pool of employees this naturally lowers pay, couple that with increasing tax profits are Policies that have been adopted & peddled as some noble victory the populous got duped into believing. Sure we can talk about who actually benefits and who pushed it but most people still think it’s some moral virtue.

[fonduegirl]

You can't expect the best of both worlds

[fonduegirl]

@Leon1 simple, don't have kids.

[fonduegirl]

"Why is it impossible for the majority of people to see the problem here. It's not women entering the workforce or immigrants eating away at our standard of living."

Facts

[Leon1]

@anon1903 No No, I will import my 3 Muslim Partners and have 10 kids each per partner while the government pays for it and gives me a roof over my head. Because my genes passing on is more important than the locals.

[fonduegirl]

@Leon1 uh ok weirdo

[Leon1]

@anon1903 Na, The idea that me alone not having a couple of kids somehow fix’s western wide policy Is weird. Your taxes are already being syphoned to multiple initiatives, I’d just be joining the party.

[fonduegirl]

@Leon1 I wasn't talking about you though.

I meant if you sure as hell can't afford kids don't have them. Don't punish yourself and your wife. I'd say that to every person who's willing to listen — think for yourself, your bloodline is not that great.

Unless you're the top ten percent elite people, you are not making enough money for your living, let alone for your children. Do yourself a favour and forget them

[Leon1]

@anon1903 you @ed me and said “simple, don’t have kids” if you weren’t talking about me you didn’t make it clear enough. “ your bloodline isn’t that great” who are you to decide that? That’s rather condescending and considering my bloodline owned Castles and Villages I’d say you’re objectively wrong. Those so called “elite people” duped others into voting bad policy that can be reversed. People in the west with that mindset seem to not have that mindset when it comes to billions of 3rd world breeding Africans, Asians or other continents etc. coming into country though, so while you may not there are those that are selective with its message as well as selective to where tax payers money go. I don’t owe anyone my hard earned cash.

[Leon1]

@anon1903 My tax paying money should go towards roads, Infrastructure, streets, maintenance, labor etc. not for “Ngululaie” the 4th to bring another partner + 10 kids and a house.

[fonduegirl]

@Leon1 whatever.

[RavVid]

Women always have been and always will be. If she is pursuing a long term relationship than clearly that has impact on on the quality of life she will have with him.

If it is a good times short relationship that she can have better good times.

No matter what they earn they will always see men as a provider. and all you need know is contained in the word provider.

[Hawaiikai]

I don’t need a man’s money. Team work is the key. 50/50 equal is what I like. If I were to have a man, I would pay for him too, such as dinners etc. and I would also refuse to let him pay for an expensive dinner all the time. I would wana show I care and let him know that it’s not about money. Guys want love too besides being used for money, same as girls feel like they are being used for sex.

[RingOfFire]

Nature. Women are designed to have the babies and men are designed to provide for the women and the baby. That's a design by nature and evolution

So men are designed to be attracted to the women who can have the babies and women are designed to be attracted to the men who can provide for them.

It's part of the survival mechanism for our species and the reason we are here today.

[Agape93]

y'all keep wanting to be the breadwinner, want us to stay home with the kids, make food, clean and suck you off. Guess what? There's an income requirement because we won't live in poverty for a guys ego.

[Bricealan]

@Agape93 ROFLMAO... you hit the nail dead center on the head LOLOLO

[ManOnFire]

@Agape93 Ya wanna know the funny part? There are women who make food, clean and suck off guys who aren't even making money, and don't even appreciate her. Why no income requirements for those guys?

[fonduegirl]

Speak louder queen

[Agape93]

@ManOnFire Im speaking specifically about men who want stay at home wives/girlfriends.

[Agape93]

@anon1903 <3

[ManOnFire]

@Agape93 They're no worse than the women who want them because they make a lot of money.

[Agape93]

@ManOnFire Agreed.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

The women hyper focused on a man's income I heard of were living in places really big on traditional gender roles. Or places really big on income inequalities. I hope you don't live in a place combining both issues.

[MemeSupreme]

why aren't you focused on our income

weirdos

[Pohjolan]

Other priorities. How much she has money on her bank account doesn't determine say whether she can bear healthy babies or how likeable she is or how good she is in bed.
By limiting ourselves by her wealth we would dismiss a significant portion of otherwise entirely suitable mates.
Possibly all of them within a reasonable distance to our location and within our ability to attract a mate.

[MemeSupreme]

yeah that stuff is important, but we're talking money lol im not saying only go after rich girls either btww

having a stable job and being able to support herself should be really important. what kinds of benefits she gets too matters

[Asker]

because women don't buy men anything

[Pohjolan]

@MemeSupreme
Not really if she stays more at home looking after the kids and the house.
Men care about your income about as much as you care about his kitchenware.
I mean its good to have but it lacking isn't some deal breaker usually.
Besides you are young. Its only a issue for older more wealthy women looking for a wealthy guy while competing with younger women.

[fonduegirl]

LMFAO

[MrOracle]

I've dated women who had no job, and I've dated women who have out-earned me, and everything in between. The thing that was the same with all of them was: they almost never spent money on me, and almost never spent money on the bills.

When men make money, they're making it to support their family, whether that's just himself, himself and his girlfriend/wife, or himself, his wife, and his kids. I'm not saying he never spends money on himself, but for most men, they're trying to take care of their family.

When most women make money, they see that as THEIR OWN money. It's exceptionally rare (not saying it never happens, but rare) that they are willing to pay any significant amount of the household bills, much less spend anything on their man directly.

For this reason, men assign a woman's income as ZERO value. And thus, your education, your degree, your career, your position, etc. are all ZERO value. Because if those things never or nearly never benefit us, why would we assign any value to them?

Women assign value to a man's education, degrees, career, position, and status because these things DIRECTLY BENEFIT HER - because men share their hard-earned income and their good fortune with their woman, and if any, their kids. Women don't do that, as a rule, and thus, it means ZERO to a man.

[fonduegirl]

@MrOracle in my country, girl education is free. Especially for single girl child.

Even then, women's education and career will never be seen as equal to men's.

[MrOracle]

And I just explained why. If men refused to spend their money on anyone but themselves, no one would care about men's education or careers either. The reason people care about men's education and careers is because men are generous with the money they earn and take care of their families. Women largely only take care of themselves.

[fonduegirl]

@MrOracle isn't that unfair to men?

[MrOracle]

Yes, but men and women have different roles and expectations, which is why men generally don't complain about providing for their family.

The whole reason this is an issue for some woman (that men don't value women's income) is because of Feminism. Feminism has taught women NOT to embrace being a woman or their own femininity, but instead to BECOME men and to pursue what men have traditionally pursued. THEN, they project their own desires in a partner (one of which is his income) on to men, assuming that men must naturally value the same things in a woman that she values in a man - but nothing could be further from the truth.

[fonduegirl]

@MrOracle feminism gave people a choice.

Lots of feminists are homemakers. They have children.

It's the choice that makes all the difference

[fonduegirl]

@MrOracle I'm sure not all men want to breadwinner

[MrOracle]

Nearly zero feminists are home makers, and homemakers are routinely attacked, degraded, and accused of being traitors to their gender by Feminists. I've had friends cry their eyes out because another woman cut her down publicly because she chose to be a wife and mother.

[MrOracle]

If Feminism actually supported women having the choice, that would be fine, but you don't have to work very hard to find article in the media from any year in the last 40 years that explicitly state that women being housewives is a waste and a betrayal, and for every one of those articles, there are 5 more that merely imply the same thing.

That's not supporting choice, that's trying to force ONE specific choice.

[fonduegirl]

@MrOracle how do you know? Have you conducted survey?

[fonduegirl]

@MrOracle on the internet you can find ANY kind of article. I bet I can find a ton on choice feminism.

That's not the issue

[OreosAreLit]

It probablyhas something to do with the way we're hardwired; meaning, we want someone who can look out for us and support us. I think that's also why we're attracted to muscular men, because they're able to protect us, i guess? Personally I dont really care about money but I know a lot of people who do!

Hope this helped!

[LiamJHayden]

Well if she wants to start a family, it makes sense to choose someone who is capable of taking care of her and the children while they are small. Or are you talking about the lunatics online who expect the guy to pull $500K+ per year?

[Anonymous]

How to get married & have kids if the guy is not financially stable. Can't expect women to raise babies in a tent. Stability is important.

[Asker]

I'm not talking about financial stability.

[Opinion Owner]

If the guy is financially stable, then shouldn't have issues. Only those who can't affort to pay for dates, 50/50 culture, get married & have kids

[Opinion Owner]

*afford

[Asker]

but if women have money why does the man need any

[Opinion Owner]

Lol, guys are breadwinners/the head of the family supposed to lead, protect & provide. Women are meant to nurture & help out.

[Asker]

and what if the woman happens to make more money

[Leon1]

@Opinion Owner Supposed to but Culture for the passed 60 years indoctrinated the opposite and unfortunately for most in this economy it requires 2.

[Opinion Owner]

If the women happens to make more money it doesn't matter then she can help out & contribute more.

[Leon1]

I mean you’d assume so but a lot of women have issue with that, in order to even be in a marriage with them in the first place. So a lot of females are being gassed up by the Government but then still demand the man earn a certain much etc.

[WindAtMyBack]

Go to the low income parts of town and look around. You will see proof in every household that women get with men with low incomes.

[Mac-One]

I think that some women are super focused on it. However, that was not the case for us. We were both young with low paying jobs and no significant savings.

[capriVib]

Many things happen thanks to money if I were a woman, I’d care about it too. 😂

[Reem12345reem]

same reason why some men are so hyper focused on woman's appearance?

[SotiCoto]

Probably because they assume they're not going to need one of their own and can simply adopt the role of a parasite.

[fonduegirl]

What parasite? Lmao.

Even if she's got a good job, a woman's career is never seen as important and equal. They're asked to give it up for children and stuff... So of course y'all would have to earn for her and the child?

[Anonymous]

Women are genetically programmed to be attracted to men with resources. They have been since the dawn of time. They can't help it any more then men can help being attracted to women who are physically attractive.

[fonduegirl]

Same reason men are so obsessed with conservative girls

[blackeagle007]

No political stuff please. Thank you for your cooperation

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

@blackeagle007
This question, while being categorized in "Girl's behavior" belongs to "Society & Politics" instead. Because this question talks about a behavior that is not psychological, it is societal instead, gender roles. Gender roles are connected to conservatism. Thank you for your comprehension

[fonduegirl]

@blackeagle007 conservative as in women who want children. Women obsessed with family and being feminine. Traditional women

[HelenaHandbasket]

Awful women just want to rob men.

Good women are more concerned with your potential.

[Quetaismymiddlename]

She take my money when I'm in need
Yea she's a triflin' friend indeed
Oh she's a gold digger

[jahaims]

They aren't. That is all you have to offer if that happens to you.

[MOUTHWASHING]

cause women expect men to pay for their beauty and lifting items and products

[Anonymous]

The same reason some men are focused on women body type and their body count or the main thing can a woman cook?

[Deserter3]

Women are talentless slow-witted hacks that want you to buy them shiny things.

[mobiusforniner]

Seems you’re into dating shallow women.

[PatKirby]

Provision and hypergamy.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Many are gold diggers.

[Abbiii]

Shows that he will support her

[Anonymous]

They’re not