Do woman have a responsibility to only have kids with high quality men?

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Late night debate. The girl was outnumbered three to one

"But woman create life" she said, "without us, there'd be nothing."

It reminds me of when my mom remind me who gave birth to him and a 6 year old me would snap back, I woulda popped out of someone else!

But today, I'm wondering what being the creators of life really means to women. Do you think about what you're adding to society when you decide to have a kid with one guy or another?

[emeraldsaphire]

Well yeah, most women are pretty picky about who they date long term. I always tried to imagine what our kids would look like whenever things got serious lol.

I'm not sure I like the term "high quality" and "responsibility" here. Quality is largely subjective. And it feels like men who say that are just trying to control who women can and can't date.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Really? I said high quality to be intentionally ambiguous

[LazerBean]

Absolutely! And men have the responsibility to only have children with high quality women. It is every parents duty to provide their children with high quality parents, and failure to do so is child neglect in my opinion.

[AngryCarl3]

Hmm, with all due respect if my mother hadn't slept with a no good bum I wouldn't be here talkin at you.

[LazerBean]

Lol maybe so, or maybe you would be talking to me but you would have just had a easier life with less mistakes and hardship

[kissmyring]

The fact that you and I exist is nothing short of a miracle. Out of the millions of sperm injected into our mothers, out of the dozens of eggs our mothers carry, the exact right sperm cell met with the exact right egg cell at the exact right time to fertilize and be brought to term. If your mother didn’t have you, chances are you never would have existed as you are now. You are the one in one trillion chance to exist. And the fact of the matter is men can do a great job with insemination, but can’t incubate, which is an incredibly necessary part of creating life. Sure, you need sperm cells to inseminate, but they don’t necessarily have to come from a man. Sometimes they come from sperm donors. Sometimes they come from women’s bone marrow. In the time it takes for a woman to produce a single child, a man could have inseminated hundreds of women. In terms of market value, if you’re able to flood the market, your product usually isn’t worth as much as the rarer stuff.

[leannegrayson]

Oh gosh, that is, like, a super heavy thing to think about! It's totally wild to talk about society and having kids and all that stuff. But honestly? You telling your mom that you would have just popped out of someone else is literally breaking the commandment to honor your father and mother.

Plus, sitting around debating who is "high quality" enough to create life is the sin of extreme pride and literally playing God.

In answer to your question, the Lord is actually gonna send two huge she-bears out of the woods to completely tear you to pieces the next time you step outside. Just like he did back in the book of Kings! It's gonna be super painful and leave a really big mess on your driveway. You should probably make sure your life insurance is all paid up before you leave the house today.

[WhitneySnow]

I think all kids should be cherished, but picking a partner who will be there for you and your baby and not cheat on you or leave you or both is very important

Women don’t have a responsibility to society to do anything. They do have a responsibility to themselves and their baby.

[yellowsombrero]

First, how are we defining 'high quality men'?

I think it is every person's responsibility who enters a relationship to find someone with good character. But even in doing so, life is messy. People are imperfect. There's also the fact that your offspring are also going to be imperfect.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

It's intentionally ambiguous. I think it's only relevant to the question in terms of is the woman even making a decision about should they have kids with the guy. What thay base that off of is arguably irrelevant for this question.

[yellowsombrero]

Fair enough

[BadApple69]

What do you mean “high quality”?
Is a millionaire banker that is 5’2” 125 pounds and always sneezing high quality?
Or is the 6’2” 220 pound construction worker high quality?
Genetically women are attracted to the bigger stronger guys because they can produce stronger offspring.
That being said girls today are more attracted to material things so they might go for the rich banker ignoring their biological desires and going with their material desires.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

a lot of women don't understand what their role is. Women are not the "creators" of life, but rather the supporters of life. They are the vessel in which life can form. Often why earth is referred to as Mother Earth.

While your friend was not incorrect, in that "without us there'd be nothing" she does appear to have a God complex.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

I think all Ariana Grande fans do... But saying women have a god complex because they've wrongly assumed their role in the grand scheme of life seems a little... Completely insane.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

She told you women are the creators of life... how much more narcissistic can a person be?

[Telekinetic-Potato]

I don't see what's narssicistic about baking a human in your oven for 9 months and thinking that makes you the creator of life.

I personally say it makes you A creator of life.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

Is the oven the chef?

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Jesus dude, it's a matter of perspective. You're like those people who say "you're not making music if it's electronic"

Did the chef create the wheat to bake the cake? Culture their own yeast? Raise chickens? Maybe the chicken is the creator of the cake?

None of the answers are wrong because the answer is ambiguous.

If a woman wants to identify as "the gatekeeper creating life" I think it's a little flashy but I wouldn't exactly call it wrong.

And neither of us are women so after a certain point, don't you think it's a little selfish to argue against it?

"Is the oven the chef"

Ask your mom if she was drinking when you were baking and then tell me what you think of that question.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

Holy shit man... where'd you go?

[Telekinetic-Potato]

I'm sick and keep falling asleep

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

Yeah well, that chick ain't your medicine

[Anonymous]

Nah not all women are smart and they can lust too. Both genders make stupid decisions Both genders can make mistakes Both genders should be held accountable and responsible. It's not like they're sleeping by themselves Saying this is like putting all the blame on her
Like she's going to weigh the pros and cons of the probability that she get pregnant while a man's caressing her. And if she's in a relationship with him, she's already lost and blinded

[DryGermanGuy]

How would they ensure that? Run the men through a number of NASA medical tests? Only choose Wallstreet bankers? Demand large penis sizes? What? 🧐

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Uhhh, lol

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

I'd like to have women and men feeling responsible to have kids they are able to love and care for. Yep, that's a nice thing to wish for.

[AngryCarl3]

It's not a matter of responsibility, but preference. Women typically only want to reproduce with men who have good genes.

[_Jenny_]

@Telekinetic-Potato I would love to have a child someday

[NathanDavis]

that's nonsense

[Agape93]

Uh no