Why do some women get defensive when men call out unfair dating expectations?

[Phunk_Fenomenon]

it doesn't take rocket science to realize that most women (not every single one of them though) often time have ulterior motives in the world of dating.

they often times do not go on dates to get to know that person they are dating. they are just in it for the free food, status and validation. I think any man that has gone on date and had this happened to them deserves to feel frustrated.

on top of this it is often men that must...

• initiate the act.
• meet expectations.
• pay for both often times.
• risk rejection or being ghosted after the date.

yet most women get extremely defensive when getting called out on this. they will try to deny it at all cost and then blame men for being the "problem."

obviously I'm not saying the party that pays and risk it all must be compensated at all cost but at the same time the party that pays does deserve to feel deceived if they were the ones that risked it all and still has the chance of not getting anything out of it.

[Rorroto]

I would doubt if women really just go on dates to get free food/etc., because there's always the risk of sex crimes happening to them. That's the whole reason why society expects guys to do more than women on dates, because dating is much less risky for guys than women.

I'm not saying it's wrong to have a problem with buying women means/etc. but let's not pretend like this is just women being unreasonable.

[Phunk_Fenomenon]

"dating is much less risky for guys than women."

what planet do you live in? the same exact shit could happen to men if the broad they took out on a date decides to cry "rape!"

[Monoc]

Not really, it's not about safety, there are old patriarchal standards.

[Monoc]

*These

[Rorroto]

That's a respectable point. I'm sure many jurors would side with any woman who cried rape regardless of evidence. Also, if the pair slept together consensually that would be evidence of something having happened and you can get financial rewards for lawsuits over sex crimes.

I'd be much more concerned about having a sex crime happen to the woman that the guy being falsely accused of a sex crime though. It looks like 72% of rape cases close with no charges filed according to worldmetrics.org/.../ It also looks like from www.consumershield.com/.../average-settlement only is only $43,000. I'm not an expert at this stuff though. But presumably the victim would have to spend money on a lawyer as well.

[Rorroto]

@Monoc Why is it not about safety? I don't think it's more likely that a woman would want to falsely sue the guy for sexual assault than her getting sexually assaulted. It takes a lot of energy to sue someone like that.

[Rorroto]

In addition to my other post, I'll just point out that even if there are lots of women falsely accusing men of rape for money, the fact that sex crimes are so common for women means a major disincentive to just going on dates to get free food.

[NathanDavis]

if you're not man enough for women... then why you want the date

move on to the next with low or no standards at all

[Phunk_Fenomenon]

who said I want the date?

they are the ones who have a tough time moving on when they get hit with the truth

[NathanDavis]

then why do you care... let people be

and do your own thing

[Sevenpointfive]

dating is not fair lol who said this? if it was fair we'd all be moderately happy