Okay, rant over, so, how do I stop hating women so much?
How to stop hating women?
Okay, rant over, so, how do I stop hating women so much?
First of all, I know that you're angry. But I ask you to please read what I say with a cool head and an open mind. I hate it if I'm trying to be helpful and the QA is all just closed up in their own little worlds and unwilling to genuinely listen to any advice, they just want to rant and seek validation. That is not what I want here, and I hope you're not one of those QAs. MMy tone will be neutral, so if you comment with emotional tone, I will take it as like talking to a wall. OK?
How have they treated you? Have you ever tried to put yourselves in their shoes? How old are you? Are you sure it's not just immaturity that makes you think about those things about women? I'll say this: when I was younger, I was more narrow-minded due to lack of experience. So I had pretty strong thought about some things too, because of my narrow-mindedness. I wasn't able to always put myself in other people's shoes and try to understand why that person does this or that. Sometimes if you try to understand why a person did this or that, you'd find yourself having more tolerance and not so angry anymore at that person.
If by "how they've treated me" you mean how they always reject you in a nasty rude way, there are things you should evaluate before you place the blame on them.
1. What kind of girls do you approach? Realise that hot girls get hit on and perved on a lot by guys, so they have to be sick of it. So they don't even bother to be nice anymore because they're exhausted by guys who can't take no for an answer. And they have other options anyway, so they feel like they can afford to be rude to a guy or two.
2. How was your approach? I guess some people don't realise that when they look at someone, their eyes can seem to be intense and intimidating, in simpler words "creepy". You might want to ask a female friend about that. practice with her.
"I don't want to meet some woman when she's 30+!!!" What's wrong with 30+ women? Not all are failures as you described.
Quite the contrary, many 30+ women have stable lives. You just have to find the quality ones. They exist. Besides, aren't you gonna be 30+ yourself by then? Would you still be chasing after some 18 year old girl when you're 30+?
1. Re-evaluate yourself. Who you are, your abilities, your potential, your own mental state, your own attractiveness, your emotional and mental maturity. Find out who you really are, or at least try to find out. Work on yourself first before you think of dating women. You seem to me to be still a little bit lost as to who you really are...
2. When you've realised who you are, re-evaluate your standards and expectations in women. Ask GAG if you'd like. Make sure they are realistic.
3. A mistake that many guys make: in their minds, girls are like some exotic animal species that needs to be treated differently. Well we're not. We're just people, just like you. So when you come up and talk to us, no need to use any sort of tricks or smthg
I did try to put myself in their shoes, and, I realized, that, they were still needlessly cruel to a person they never knew, then, I also realized, it shouldn't matter what their experiences were, they should have no right to be pointlessly cruel to people, how did they know I wouldn't go home and hang myself? Then I realized, if their experiences justified their behavior, than my experiences justify mine. If a girl can be cruel, than so can I. I gave up on understanding other people when I realized other people would never try to understand me, as displayed here.
And, maybe it's that they always reject me in a rude nasty way, yeah. As I said, does them being hit on often justify it? If I were to go to an overweight girl or a girl with low self-esteem and pretend to like them, only to get pleasure in revealing the truth, would you say my shitty experiences with women justify that act? And I ask because some rejections actually did make me attempt suicide later on.
I mean, it's rather unfair, that's it's perfectly fine for a girl to be rude and nasty, but a guy like my (who women constantly shit on) to act the same way. In regards to 30+ women? My point was to mock the idea that nice guys win in he end, by showing how hollow that so-called victory really is. Also, maybe some guys refuse to take no for an answer eventually, because they always get rejected and need something to live for, actually feel confident about. I'm being fair in saying, see things from my perspective, as I've tried seeing it from a girl's, and the results always disgust me.
Well I hope you like your answer
I AM trying to understand you.
You know what? People are self-serving and some are just plain bullies in life. No matter what gender, no matter at what age. I have heard nasty comments said by strangers when I walked past them down the street! I didn't even LOOK at them and I still get shit from them. That's how people are. Men, women, young, old, there are bullies and jerks of both genders. You only focus on female bullies when in fact, we're not worse than men. We're the same. There are good and bad seeds in both genders.
Ok, so you look down on women older than you, and overweight girls. And the fact that you attempted suicide after rejection tells me that there's plenty of room for personal growth and maturity there. A mature person doesn't judge other people so harshly because of their age or their size.
So before you start judging girls, how about you take my advice and judge yourself first? Work on yourself before you condemn the whole female gender for something.
Who said it's perfectly fine for a girl to be rude and nasty? It's NEVER fine for ANYONE to be rude and nasty. Have you ever thought about the possibility, that they're rude and nasty to you because you were rude and nasty to them first? And as I said, maybe you're also just going for the wrong type of girls. The female bullies.
And I don't get the impression that you actually have made an effort to see things from their perspectives. Your perspective is still very clouded with anger and judgements towards women.
I don't look down on them, I never said I did, people look down on me, I mean, haha, you want me to be honest, I have looked at myself, and hated what I found, everything, I hate myself too, I hate myself as much as women because I can't be happy, but I can't change that.
well you clearly don't think much of 30+ women and overweight women.
Do yourself a favor and go see a professional. You have so many issues to work on here, kid.
Was it worth the wait lol?
@Illusive_Man: well, he seemed less vicious on here than on other comments. I think he did try.
If you look, many of the people I was vicious with started out being vicious with me first.
on this question, maybe. I haven't read everything though.
IN real life, I don't know.
" What kind of girls do you approach? Realise that hot girls get hit on and perved on a lot by guys, so they have to be sick of it."
Yet they dress in a manner to get male attention. They only want the attention of guys they like otherwise it is "sexual harassment". If they didn't want male attention they would avoid it by not dressing provocatively.
"no need to use any sort of tricks or smthg"
As long as your side abides by it too.
Suicide is not the answer.
You're right about women. They are fucked up.
You don't sound like you care about his point of view either.
@joeblow123 dude, this question was asked over a year ago. Get a life.
I get that thing about attractive women but being mean to all men is just as bad as hating all women...
I mean I get it... Trust me I do. I am a guy that has the same problem sometimes. I am not even the best looking guy I don't think but I get it.
But I am not just mean to everyone unless it is just a bad time. But some women always think someone is flirting with them when they aren't
1. Let it go.
Stop committing your thoughts to such mass negativity. This is your main problem. Instead of progressing and moving forward, you're choosing to stay stuck in reverse by devoting a significant amount of your mental energy towards something unhealthy and completely unbeneficial. There is no true benefit in being a hateful human being. Hating women, or hating anyone for that matter, is a disservice to yourself. Hate is ugly; it will smother so many wonderful possibilities and it makes you look like a subpar human being. Is that what you want to amount to? A less than average human being? You need to let it go or you're going to harm your future and the quality of your thoughts.
2. Take accountability.
It's pre-mature to point the finger and insist that tons of strangers are responsible for your problems. That's not even a rational claim. If women are consistently rejecting you then maybe it's time for you to take a humbly honest look at yourself and ask if there's something about you that is widely unattractive. Rejection doesn't mean someone has some evil plot to make you miserable. It can come from many different reasonings, but it's usually because they can't see themselves having something with you romantically and that's okay. Just accept that they can't see a romantic future with you instead of letting all of this nasty hate grow inside of you. Also, the "friendzone" is complete and utter bullsh*t. It's some imaginary zone where people simply cannot humbly accept that the one they wanted is not interested in them romantically. The "friendzone" is simply a state of mind that you choose.
If you don't listen to me, then you will only be tainting the quality of your own happiness and peace of mind.
I also must add...
Women are not responsible for making you feel good about yourself. That is not a woman's duty nor obligation to keep a man's self-esteem together; that's YOUR job. That is your duty to yourself to keep your sense of worth in tact no matter what. Stop acting like women have failed at some duty to keep you feeling confident about yourself; that's not their place.
Take accountability? Its very likely out of his control.
I'm in a similar position to the QA. I am very physically unattractive, have tendencies towards depression and anxiety, and I've been hated by pretty much everyone simply for who I am since I was a small child. Most of this is due to genetics, its not my fault. Why should I feel accountable for something I have no control over?
@ASOIAF quite frankly my dear, that couldn't be more false. You and him need to stop telling yourselves the story that you are helpless men with no control who are victim to women and have absolutely zero power. Quite frankly my dear, THAT looks pathetic. I'm sorry, but that's pitiful. You two are grown ass men, you both need to embrace the grown man in you and stop acting like helpless little puppies from ASPCA commercials.
So with that said, you both need to take accountability for not acknowledging the power you have in how you respond to life's situations. You guys think you're the only people on this Earth who have problems? There are men, women, and children living in places where neighboring villages are being SLAUGHTERED and you're sitting up here throwing a pity party over THIS. Smdh
I'm 17, I put down 18-24 by accident
Aaaah, that explains a lot.
Look hon, you're young and this is a phase necessary for you to experience so that you can learn and grow. Don't get me wrong: I'm not negating from your legitimate feelings. I'm not dismissing the fact that you are frustrated and hurt. But what I am saying is that you are not powerless. You are not some helpless individual. You have the power to completely control how you choose to respond to life's disappointment. By sitting up here and insisting on having a pity party, that power is going to COMPLETE waste. Try to look at the big picture. Understand that you're not the first or last one to experience rejection. Girls get rejected ALL THE TIME too if it makes you feel any better; for the size of their tits, the size of their azz *or lack of*, for not being popular enough, for not having straight enough hair or light enough eyes, for having promiscuous reputations. Rejection is apart of the process that brings you with the one you belong with.
Well, I'm a hypocrite anyway, I did end up rejecting a girl that had a really bad reputation, you win.
Lol, it's not about winning; it's about you leaving this post with a change.
I'm here to help you. This post is meant to aid you and turn things around for you so that you can live a happier life and move forward in your journey without being held back by this bitterness. Why won't you just let me do that?
I suppose, I do want to be happy, I'm just heartbroken, and a little messed up, though I'm calmer now and willing to talk.
I guess I'm deeply depressed over this girl from school, I mean, it's a long story, if you want, I'll just message you.
What I will say here though where others can gain from your personal experience...
Never forget this: It's real easy to want someone when you haven't had enough exposure around them to see their true colors. There's no guarantee that things would have worked out. For all you know, she's a conniving, manipulative, toxic b*tch deep down. For all you know, she didn't have as much to bring to the table as you thought. Don't be so quick to overestimate the worth of a crush
Women are the last ones to lecture anyone else about accepting accountability.
I'm tired of whiny crying women who get butthurt over everything. My attitude is shut up, bitch or I'll give you something to cry about. Women need a good backhand or a good punch in the face. I'm tired of their crying. It is a major turn off that makes me rage with anger.
@ Wondorous Help? Do you call that help? Don't ever help me. Pity parties? Put on any daily talk show and it's a big-time female pity party. You've shown no compassion toward these men yet men are called upon to put their lives on the line for the likes of you. Do you tell your equally frustrated feminist girlfriends the same thing or is this just shit you heap upon men?
@ Wondorous It is not misdirected since you added fuel to the fire.
Wow. Why would any woman choose you if, after she turns 30, you're going to call her a loose, aging, grandmother past her sell-by date? Despite what you've been telling yourself, you're not a nice guy looking for love. You're a horny, selfish boy looking for the next hot, young thing.
How you just described me, easily describes most women I've met.
Maybe you should listen to them
What you need to do is realize that your mentality is centered around blame. You need stop thinking about the world in a way where something is always someone's fault. Realize that everything around you is very complicated and most things that happen are only the result of how things have played out. An example, you don't know what other people are thinking or what their past experiences are and what they've taken away from those experiences. You seem like you've had bad luck and blaming women is the way you cope with it. Take the world as it is, finding an object of blame shouldn't be where you thinking takes you. Be more open, be more understanding, acknowledge what you don't know and don't forget there is always something you've never thought about that plays a part in the dynamics of the world.
And don't be afraid to look at yourself either. Sorry to say that if you are having that much trouble, you may want to take a constructive look at yourself. It's very apparent that you have an unhealthy view of the world and other people. Judge less and realize your own ignorance. Whether you just get mad at this information or let it help you is up to you.
And stop thinking of women the way you seem to be doing. Women are complicated people, not robots. You can't just be a "nice guy" and expect that should have a girl or that a girl should want you. They have their own interest, their own agendas, their own ideas and desires that shape who they are as people. What you need to do is decide what kind of person you want to be and to work at being that person. For get about doing things to get a woman. Aspire toward becoming a better person yourself, work towards that, and when you do start meeting people and having real relationships. Being with a woman isn't about seeing a girl and wanting her. It's about finding someone you can connect with as a person.
But how? I don't know, and, I'm asking honestly, I don't know how to become a better person. As far as I'm concerned, I'm a bastard, I know while I try to be a good person on the outside, I'm awful at my core, but, other people made me this way. I don't know how to improve myself or my life, therapy hasn't done shit for me. And, about girls, I'm not just nice, I'm attractive too, that's why I can't comprehend this, any of this, I try to be nice, and I'm good looking, that's why I don't know how to forgive or forget.
Im afraid that's something only you can really decide for yourself. I don't know how you act normally or what your second to second thoughts may be in any situation. I don't know your story. if you have a therapist already, thats what they are for. If you encounter situations and think they could've gone better talk to your therapist about those instances. It will help you learn about yourself. all I can say is be realistic, not idealistic. Ideals are nice ideas to look at but always be practical in your beliefs and how you behave. Avoid unnecessary conflicts and be absolutely sure any conflict you get involved in is necessary. Look at things objectively, step outside yourself and be a neutral observer before you make any judgements. Keep being nice to people. If you persistently make yourself act nice to others it will become a reflex, lower effort. the brain is a muscle, it must practice to improve.
Attracting women isn't just about being nice or looking good.
Its about who you are. Some girls will like you. Some girls will like you but not be attracted to you romantically. Some girls won't like you for good reason and some won't for bad ones. Just like any other person of any gender will either connect with you in some way or they won't. It happens or it doesn't. That's why I say figure out who you want to be and work at it. If you want to be a nice person who is also really good at playing pool, then practice playing pool and always make yourself be nice. You're already half way there. So figure out who you want to be. And it's okay to experiment till you find what fits. Give yourself goals, accomplish them for yourself.
It's great that you recognize you need to change how you operate. You may never really be able to "forgive and forget" or be less hostile to people, but unfortunately that's your challenge. And it's probably a much more common challenge among people than you think. You just have to really decide you don't want to be
That way and work hard to be different.
I personally want to be my definition of a good person. I want to have good understanding if the world and the things that happen it. So I read a lot view points and derive my own conclusions that I hope to be accurate and inclusive of all aspects of a subject. I want to be a person who is reliable and helpful. So I try to never have an incompleted commitment or obligation. I always offer help to someone who I think may need it. Even if it's just listening to them. I want to be a person in good health so I am sure to exercise and generally eat right, despite how much I might not want to. Those are some of the ways I try to be the person I want to be so find your own idea of who you want to be. And while you're at it if you catch a girls attention doing this odds are you will be able to have a better connection with her because she already admires who you try to be. Oh and find friends you can talk to. Those that aren't quick to judge.
I used to feel similarly to you (though with less hatred and anger) and what I came to realize is that women were not the problem, but I was the problem.
I felt entitled to a woman because I was nice to them, I felt like women didn't want nice men like me, they wanted jerks and I even felt that some women purposely rejected me out of spite and the more rejection I faced, the disappointment of being accepted but then left behind for someone new, the more angry, bitter and resentful I became and I turned from a nice guy to a nasty one, but was I nice to begin with or was I always a nasty guy?
But then I began to question just why I wanted a girlfriend so desperately. What caused this need in me, this air of desperation? Why did I feel so entitled to a girl? And I came to the realization that I wanted a girlfriend for all the wrong reasons. I wanted a girlfriend to cure my shattered self-esteem, my bruised ego, to cure my lack of confidence. Then I began to question what I could offer a girl.
That's when the penny dropped. I had nothing of any worth to offer a girl. I was a broken person and I had nothing to offer except for insecurities, anger, bitterness, frustration and resentment. I was too busy pointing the finger at everyone else when it wasn't they who were the problem but me.
You see nobody can fix you but you. You can delude yourself into believing that the World owes you a good woman, love and all the happiness and joy a close connection to someone special can bring you and you can believe in your heart that this will fill of the voids that exist within you. But you're wrong, it will merely paper over the cracks of your very foundations.
It's a long winding road, but you can change for the better and you can grow as a person.
So what, should I accept misery as my fate?
What you should accept is that in this life you are owned nothing, you must earn everything.
You must accept that you are broken, re-read your rant. Is the feelings of a normal, emotionally healthy person? I don't think it is. I was saddened to read your post because it brought back memories of how I used to feel and I sympathize with you.
Once you have acknowledged your own shortcomings you can then make a plan of action whereby you can improve and get better, where you can learn and grow as a person.
It's not easy, but if I can change for the better and be a happier and emotionally healthier person for it, then so can you. You just have to be willing to change for the better.
he's saying you need to change yourself and stop thinking of women as objects to be won and that you automatically deserve something from them for being nice to them. Think of it this way what if a woman you were not interested in or attracted to did something nice for you and then got angry when you wouldn't have sex with her and started shouting "but I'm a NICE girl! I bought you lunch you owe me sex!!! waaaa!!!" and threw a tantrum because that is your logic right there...
I suppose so, I get like this in between my therapy sessions, except, I can never tell my therapist how I really feel or else he'd probably send my to a mental hospital, he almost did for my cutting, I don't want to get sent, it'd be a black mark on my family, my parents would disown me.
this was a good answer
I usually hate this website for it's annoying titles but this guy makes a very good point that you should listen to.
I get rejected, I've experienced unrequited love an awful lot of times and it's a pain of course but these things happen. I don't hate women because I haven't found one who likes me as that would be ludicrous. There's far far far more to women than what you seem to perceive as objects just to have sex with, they are people too who deserve respect and you should never forget that. No-one owes you sex and you should understand soon or else you will go down a very dark route.
Stop being a misogynist and you might find that women like you more.
Whenever I get rejected I never blame the person who rejects me. I used to blame myself but I don't advise that either as that lead to some real self esteem problems for myself. I think these things take time and if you're not an asshole someone at some point will see you as a great person.
Then who do I blame? If no one owes me love, then I can say I don't owe anyone respect, that way, he world owes me nothing, and I owe the world nothing.
Why do you need to blame someone or something?
You act like women owe you sex and I don't see how they blame you for your loneliness.
You need to take a look at yourself and realise what you are doing wrong. Think about your best and worst traits and work on them. Don't become anymore of a 'nice guy asshole' who blames women for all of his problems because it's wrong and I doubt any woman will date a man like that.
If I have no one by my side how am I not alone?
First things first. You have no right to a girl. A girl friendzoning you may hurt if you actually like her but she has every right to say no. You would not ask your friend if they want a chip and then get pissed at them for saying no. Rejection hurts but you can't get angry because it will ruin you. You have to own the rejection and let it be. And I hate to say it but you do sound a little whiny.
The best thing is to build your confidence and self assurance and you will be irresistible to women.
Haha, I bet you've never been rejected, never friendzoned, have you ever even heard the word no? I have, always do, I owe this world nothing, I owe women nothing, I owe mankind nothing, and above all, I owe God nothing (I didn't ask to exist). Haha, maybe this is meant to be, this hatred I feel, maybe it's my future, hatred.
Nahhh, hatred won't get you anywhere, trust me. I have been rejected in life and it does hurt but what I did was take it in my stride and not let it affect how I see the rejecters. You won't get anywhere with hate and you most likely end up hating yourself. I don't owe anyone anything and nobody owes you anything. I'm only saying this as I don't think you are a bad or undesirable person but pain does crazy things to us all. If you become this hatred fuelled person then it does not do anyone any favours and just makes your life worse.
Sorry but in your response (asker) you sound like the next Elliot Rodger. I'm not taking the piss or anything but that's exactly what you remind me of and I forgot to add it to my answer.
You're a real nice guy, huh? Where are you hiding your fedora?
Okay, man, clearly you're doing something wrong. I know that you want to blame women for your being alone, but you kind of have to look at yourself to see why they're doing that to you. You might think that you're a nice guy in comparison to all of those "asshole" dudes out there that all of the girls date, but you know what? There's probably some girl out there that you've put in the friendzone because you're not attracted to her. That's life, man. I agree with HokkaidoWolf. You do sound like a whiney bitch. If women aren't allowed to have the option to put you in the friend zone, then you shouldn't be allowed to deny women over 30. People are allowed their preferences, dude. You're the problem.
No, wanna blame someone, blame God, it's his fault, he created me to be unhappy, that's about it. If there is a God I can never worship him, because he created me to suffer.
Wow, dude. Just wow.
Thanks bruh, haha.
So am I
Actually, HE is not really the problem! He came by his hatred HONESTLY! He didn't start out hating women! In all certainty, he approached women with utmost kindness and proper respect! And what did he get for it? Dirty looks and insults! Any half decent looking woman NEVER has to face rejection! Any half decent looking woman NEVER has to EARN acceptance by the opposite sex! They are automatically accepted by a wide range of men just for existing!
The fact of the matter is that many women today are so spoiled, entitled and privileged that they will reject a good, decent man on a whim for ANY reason or even NO REASON AT ALL! This man's hatred was ENTIRELY CREATED BY WOMEN! It's truly shameful that women try to pretend they are blameless when men react badly to being shat upon by women!
@circlebill I think the difference between us isn't so much age. I'm a bit older, but damn am I smarter.
You can be honest all you want about your misgivings, but in no way does this mean that it's not your fault for feeling the way you do. Actually, it's entirely your fault.
I've learned, years ago, that I was owed kindness. That no matter how compassionate I am in this world, I might still be disrespected, or worse. The only difference between you and me is that even though I've given up, years ago, I do so without any resentment. Just a simple understanding that I wasn't meant for this world. Even after coming to this conclusion, I still don't hate women. Women are what women are. Just as men are as well. Both sexes have defining characteristics that make them what they are. It's just that both sexes don't want to admit this.
Just don't take the side of the mentally ill guy, further confirming his delusions. Unless, of course, you're mental.
First things first. It is YOUR fault you get in the friend zone. No one else's.
Second, you have to stop hating women. I get the feeling, but you have to understand that how women act is innate. You would not "HATE" all sharks if one came up and bit you on the leg. It's a shark. It's doing what is in its nature.
I wouldn't hate the shark, but I would look down on it is a dangerous animal that should be kept away from humans.
Unfortunately the shark has an organ you're dying to get into.
Well, you still didn't even give me a legitimate reason not to. Either women are mindless creatures that act on instinct (like a shark) or women are cruel, purposely vindictive, and enjoy sewing pain.
They are animals who run on instinct, just like men do.
So they are below me, is what you're saying? I do not run on instinct.
Sure you do. The drive to get laid is instinct.
Then I will destroy it along with my other instincts, I'm above them.
Oh jesus christ. Get over yourself, dude.
Why, no one else gets over themselves. I could go in the street right now, pull out a gun, and end my life, and no one would even glance in my direction.
Your argument made total sense until you started making fun of the 30+ women. Even if you have views like that, please keep them to yourself. I know a lot of 30+ women, and what you say would hurt them so much. When you are so hurt yourself, how can you hurt someone else. Maybe, there lies your problem!
Because they always take delight in hurting me.
No I'm being honest, why would I be happy to know that no girl will like me until they're aging and no they either find a man or die alone?
I'm not defending the insensitive girls! I was only concerned about making the future look bleak for the women in the 30s. Everyone deserves to be happy. Not just the teenagers or the 20 somethings (me included).
Then why don't I deserve to be happy?
Of course you deserve to be happy. I'll pray for you :)
You don't deserve to be happy because you don't deserve it , clear and simple , you're an egoistic whiny little bitch (not from my mouth , the girls round this joint say so as well).
No one like someone with an superiority complex who think he's better than everyone when in reality he gets SHIT
HAHA, well, what else could I have!! MY ENTIRE LIFE PEOPLE HAVE HATED ON ME, and it finally made me realize it was out of jealousy, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN BETTER THAN THEM ALL! You wouldn't understand, my superiority is all that keeps me sane, I don't need another person if I'm above all of them.
Well what do you have in your life besides from jealousy.
If you were so superior , then you would have it all then , but you have NOTHING , no one loves you , the ladies think you're a hateful , misogynist , whiny , horny selfish BOY.
As seen above.
Straight from the horse's mouth , no offence to the ladies who take "horse" literally , it's a saying.
Haha, because I'm morally superior to all of them. And, if nobody loves me, why shouldn't I feel hatred for everything? If I have nothing in his world, why shouldn't I wish to see it burn? In my eyes, it deserves to burn, but, then again, you know nothing, you've never lived my life, you are fully ignorant to my experiences.
Yes , because you're the MOST SPECIAL snowflake in the world.
NO ONE KNOWS your pain because out of 7 BILLION PEOPLE you're special!
The world doesn't deserve a SINGLE puny whiny little man who thinks the world owe you something.
@Asker, I totally understand what you are going through, why you have developed hatred. But please, stop and think a bit. Look at the stories from the past. Who wins always? Good ALWAYS wins over evil! You only need patience to see it happen. Mark my words - you will find happiness, don't burn all the bridges!
I drawed quite a bit of UGLY out of his system by metaphorically cutting him.
You might want to take a look at what he has to say when you give him a good One-Two.
I'm done. There's nothing to be gained by feeding the trolls.
@Illusive_Man- Haha, I am the most special being in this world, you can bet on it. And the world, this filthy hell of a planet, doesn't deserve me, it deserves nothing but to be engulfed by the sun.
@Opinion Owner- Thank you for trying to understand, but, the thing is, those are stories, and, the thing is, if good and evil does exist, then I am evil, for evil always suffers, always loses.
@Asker, okay please go ahead and indulge in self-pity if that makes you happy. Hope you come out of it soon though :)
inb4 you consider debating with him and giving him "emotional support" .
I did a little one-two on him and this popped out of him... so... just consider if he is worth your time.
@ItsSoFluffay @Littlestarr @bakegyllenhaal @HokkaidoWolf @AlexCab @carnix
Guys and gals... he's a troll.
Don't waste your time.
OR he's an absolute nut.
Well what can I say, you seem to be the kind of privileged ass that gets people like me hanging off bridges, in the end, you're not that great, you're the type to turn guys like me into nut cases.
You don't need me to be a nut lol, all I did was shake you up a little and you popped right out of the shell.
The REAL nutjobs I meet don't put this shit on the internet , they keep it to themselves in a little book , they're reclusive and often violent when you try to pull them out.
You're a horrible troll and I don't mind feeding you :)
@Asker please mention whom you are addressing the comment to. Its my thread and it can get confusing!!
That was to Illusive_Man, generally, I wouldn't be so abrasive with people that have been calm in their replies.
@Asker, I do agree @Illusive_Man was a bit too aggressive in his comments. Hope he realizes it.
You guys are buying this utter bullshit?
@Illusive_Man, I think his feelings are logical. They are not completely out of place, and he is willing to listen.
Ok , let me quote you all the things he've said.
" I'VE ALWAYS BEEN BETTER THAN THEM ALL! You wouldn't understand, my superiority is all that keeps me sane, I don't need another person if I'm above all of them."
"Haha, because I'm morally superior to all of them"
"Either women are mindless creatures that act on instinct (like a shark) or women are cruel, purposely vindictive, and enjoy sewing pain."
"No it's there fault, I'm not to blame this time, people blame me for everything, everything, all my life I've always been the target, the scapegoat, well it's their fault, all them, always them!"
"Don't women whine half the time? It's their fault that I'm so messed up, I'm not whining"
@Illusive_Man, of course he himself admitted he is evil!
When I said logical, I was referring to his question (until the time he mentions the 30+ women).
Adding another to the bucket list.
You probably should read what this troll has to say.
@Opinion owner , I admire your sympathy for another human being , but I don't think a man who speaks words such as what he has said deserves it.
@Illusive_Man, well, I wasn't really concentrating on his comments, rather i was reading between the lines! So maybe I'm having my rose-tinted glasses on :P
@Illusive_Man: well let's see what he has to say to my first paragraph. Should he behave the same way in my comment, then I know that he's just a kid. He'll learn one lesson one day.
oh that's too funny lol
These days, I am not sure how many people you meet are all "first-timers." I think relationships are too easy to begin, and sadly, too easy to end :(
TOO EASY TO BEGIN? No way, maybe if you're a female NOT IF YOU'RE A MALE! I wish they were easier to start, "to easy to begin" yeah, what a joke.
At least I made u laugh :P
Oh wow... ummm I don't know what I can say to help you sweetheart. I understand why you feel the way you do and its only natural after so much rejection to have some resentment in your heart. The only thing that I can say right now is that you need to take it easy on yourself. Try to take a break and relax. Don't worry yourself over such issues... get yourself busy with other things so that so much of your life doesn't have to revolve around women. People suffer from rejection every day... you're not the only one.
I don't wanna give any advice thats gonna come under the "bullshit reassurance" category. But you need to know that such feelings of resentment, although they come from badd experiences, are not healthy at all and they will only make you unhappy and constantly suffer.
You give us normal guys a bad look..
love is not something you push or just have. it takes effort and effort only.
i read "And, it gets worse, they always want these stupid perfect guys, well, I hate their stupid douchebag boyfriends took they deserve to be just as miserable as me!!!"
those bf never last long because there is no perfect guy. everyone has its flaws and mistakes.
so do you by saying all this.
my sex drive is even higher than your hate, my body screams for sex but do you think i would give it up for some random girl i date with, and go to bed with? nop. im waiting for someone i can truly love and respect.
you know.. you sound like a spoiled kid. why?
act more like an adult would you.
You don't have mental issues, you just needed to let off some steam. 95% of Women our age are complete fucking idiots, they only care about how to advance their social life and how to use people and suck their own dicks. You gotta try to find the 5% . I've been rejected so many times that it no longer hurts, and when women approach me at bar/club, I tell them to fuck off, because what their little game is. Just don't let it get to you, and sometimes we just to vent our frustration to someone. Do not wish death upon yourself, those are dark and dangerous thoughts. People like you and me are the good guys who are just sick of everyone shit, after trying to do the right thing, and people jusylt throw us out like trash. In the end though, karma, what goes around comes around
I hear you. Right on.
Try to find Jesus and religion to help you get rid of your depression. These are harsh times and even for me it's sometimes hard not to feel rejected or to feel good enough. All you see is perfect people doing perfect things on tv and in the city, it can sort of make you feel bad.
When you have the right energy and you keep calm only THEN will you meet somebody, so yes it's true you will meet somebody one day. But not when you are looking for her, only when you focus on healing yourself and stay positive and do your thing, then one day you will meet somebody who shares a similar view of the future. Then its up to you if you recognize it and keep it like you should.
I can sympathize with you. I had a (and sometimes still do) a very condescending attitude towards women. And I wasn't afraid to show it. You know what's funny? I banged more girls when I was a total asshole to them than I EVER did when I was a nice guy.
The only thing you can do is just go on in your life and keep your guard up. Learn from your experiences from all the women who HAVE mistreated you and when the right woman comes along, you'll know.
Oh and stop worrying about ages. 35 year old woman is NOT old. I've even hooked up with a 50 year old who was banging hot! Trust me, you'll be fine into your 30's, 40's and so on.
Dude, you just can't be negative or you will drown. The world is as you see it. There are so many things you can do to have better luck with women you just have to stop feeling like they all want to reject or they will. We, as men, may sometimes prey on girls who don't think they are good enough but that's because we want SEX. If we wanted relationships as much as most girls do, then we would not want to be involved with girls who will clearly be problems if faced with a relationship.
Guys have had way worse done to them than be friendzoned so do not feel bad or good about yourself for what has happened. DO NOT THINK ABOUT IT ANYMORE.
GET PROFESSIONAL HELP and move away from pointy objects. Man, your whole rant invalidates whatever desire anyone can have to help you. You need a shrink, urgently.
I'm in a similar situation to you.
Its not their fault. They didn't choose to find you unattractive. Its not your fault either. Its most likely you got dealt a bad hand in terms of genetics and environment. So its partly your parents fault and partly bad luck.
I don't really have any actual advice, if I did I wouldn't be on here talking, I'd be putting it into practice for myself.
But, I won the genetic lottery, I am attractive, that's why I can't comprehend this, I do hate my parents for not aborting me, but that's about it.
Well yea... Some women are horrible don't get me wrong. But not ALL women are and just hating random strangers who have done nothing to you is kind of just... Retarded and not fair.
There are women like this too who have been mistreated by men and just hate all men the rest of their life. Including ones who have done nothing to them again retarded
Your attitude sucks and at your age, a person should be fresh and ready to take on the world. You're depressed and that's inherited. You need therapy. Honestly, it's not an insult, just a way to help yourself. You are far too jaded and pessimistic for someone who'd probably had no real life or very little experience with women.
The biggest factor that affects misogyny/hatred of women is emotional entitlement (Surprise!). This is extremely common in families where kids are raised with financially well off, yet emotionally weak or unavailable parents. This sort of thing (albeit to a lesser extent) is frequent in societies where men were expected to take over the "family affair" and children typically died at young ages. Its also largely to blame for the cultural attitudes towards gender we have today.
Explain misandry then.
Hey, just because one girl hurt you does not mean all girls out there will. Not all guys think yellow or act the same way, there are completely different women out there with different personalities. Completely different.
bbe u can't hate a gender based on what 1 person or maybe 100 out of that gender just like men every woman is different and unique from the other and if u got a couple tiny reasons 2 hate women i got a couple 1000 ones don't take what i said personally i am just saying that it differs from each woman and another and not a single gender is perfect we both have negatives and positives
Well not everybody is nice, and perhaps women think you're not dateable/worthy...
It just is how it is, but then don't hate them..
How could I not? Imagine you're qualified for a job, not even qualified, better than everyone else that applied, yet the person interviewing you says you're not good enough, not for any particular reason, just because, and you know you will starve and die without this job, would you be happy? Would you not hate this person? That's how I feel, I'm worthy, more worthy than them, more special than them, all of them, men and women both, I deserve something.
What reason could I possibly have to think they're different? The only woman I've ever had any positive experiences with was my mother, and some other family members, and biology forced them to love me.
Not a single person has given me any useful advice.
Asker, that's a smack in the face. Just because answerers are not sitting down with you at your pity party doesn't mean none of them are giving you useful advice. I've seen tons of people here with useful vice to share, but you refuse to listen. You don't seem to truly want help, you just seem like you want to lash out at everyone.
Actually I either want to die or want to lose my ability to feel emotions, but I can't lose my emotions, and I always back out of suicide.
Oh buh huh, you poor little man! Stop whining, you sound like a bitch.
Don't women whine half the time? It's their fault that I'm so messed up, I'm not whining, I'm explaining.
You can't just say all women a evil, and wants to see you depressed. Like I can't say all men are assholes, or rapists. You probably go for the wrong women. And the 'friend zone' isn't a punishment, it's just something you guys have made up, to deal with the fact that she isn't interested in you 'like that'
You are whining, really. Not attractive at all.
So I should just accept this awful fate I've been saddled with, the shit I've been given, suffering and dying alone?
Ooor, you could quit being a little bitch, stop feeling sorry for yourself, and go live your life. Nobody is gonna just knock down your door, make your life perfect, and love you forever. You have to go make all these things happen yourself.
You sound like a little girl, rolling around the floor at a grocery store, screaming your lungs out, and knocking over things, because mommy won't buy you a lollipop.
There are people, much more unfortunate than you, man up.
Then I say give those people weapons and let them revolt. If I have to fix issues I have no control over, so should they, and, if they can't, well, overpopulation is already an issue...
You sound like that type of guy, who only wants a 10/10. And when she rejects you, you feel so sorry for yourself, starts whining and blames the rest of the world, for your misery. You are so young, and you think you are going to die alone, because you haven't found 'the one' yet.
Don't be a bitch, nobody likes a bitch.
10/10 yeah right, that's you ladies, I just want somebody to love me, I've never been loved, so, all I can experience is hatred and despair.
You come of as a guy, that after 10 mins in your company, I would feel an urge to jump of a bridge.
Im not trying to be mean, but you're depressing. You are just too much hard work, women can sense this. You are incredibly arrogant, and feel like you are better than everyone else, but still you hate them for not loving you. You have so much work to do on yourself. I get the overwhelming need for love, but how you act now, is not gonna be easy to love.
What else could I feel? The only people in my life that loved me were my parents, and they didn't even have a choice, no one has ever loved me by their own choice. I hate people for not loving me because I don't want to feel just hatred and nothing else, but without love what could I feel?
Not true, some parents kill or rape their kids. You can't force people to love you, and they aren't obligated to. You have to give them a reason, to start loving you. Not just because you think you deserve it. My mom chose my sister over me, my dad died, my family won't accept or see me, brother is in jail for accidentally killing some dude (don't know the English word) I have friends, but not real friends, last time I was at school, a guy pushed me down a long stair case, and nobody really loves me either. But do you see me whining? No, I have it so much better than many people. I look at he positive things, Im pretty, I have food and a roof over my head. Im young I know good things will happen, and I blame no one for how my life is. Everybody have their own battles to fight. There are teen moms whit violent husbands, people born whitout legs and arms, 14 year olds dying from cancer, people who have to fight for their next meal, or who have t watch their family die from starvation.
OP, NO problem is unworthy. Yes, we suffer in different degrees perhaps, but then it's how it is. The world isn't an equal place...
I think you need to analyse why they hate you, and find a means around it.
I knew a guy who was similar, but then it was because he was a bitch, but changed and slowly gained people's respect.
It's unPC to say, but women despite what modern society says like men who are strong and don't take shit. Do you have male friends by chance, and are you seen as the "lesser equation" amongst them? If so, this may give the women who hate you cause to do so...
I would have put in "That doesn't mean your problems aren't real, but people get through worse, so stop bitching out" At the end, but there weren't enough space..
@ Anonymous We are so brave using the screen name "anonymous" aren't we? Bitches? I'm tired of the female kind that thinks they are entitled to whatever a man has. He looked at her too long now she wants to get paid for it. She overheard two male employees make a joke, got offended and went to HR about it. You say women are not obligated to men and I say we are not obligated to women.
@ Anonymous What do you mean there was no space?
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You sound extremely sexist and you need to seek some help and go to a therapist before you turn out like Elliot Rodger www.voanews.com/.../1921718.html Seriously the way you are feeling is not normal everyone gets rejected it is no excuse to have such violent hateful thoughts. If you are filled with so much hate all the time NO ONE will want to be around you men OR women will want to keep their distance. I think your best option is to find a therapist and sort this out because hating an entire half of the human population is not ok in any way shape or form. I've had many boys act like you and I rejected them to protect myself, because they would insult me and treat me like shit and then turn around and say "but I'm such a nice guy! I'd do anything for you!" but actions speak louder than words and all they gave me was empty promises and false claims of being wonderful guys while in reality they just walked all over me. My current boyfriend was hurt and manipulated by his last girlfriend but despite this he still held onto his feminist beliefs and was respectful and kind and I acted the same towards him. We both know what it's like to be hurt and manipulated by people does that mean I started hating all men? no! does that mean he started hating all women? no! We didn't let the cruelness of others turn us cold and cruel as well and we found each other because we held onto our kindness through it all. We never fight and we never argue we view each other as equals because viewing the opposite sex as some alien lifeforms like you are does not help you understand them we are all human and we all just want to be treated with respect. If anyone has the right to hate the opposite gender it's me but I don't. I was attacked outside the mall by a rapist he said he was going to kill me as well. I was only 15 and wearing baggy old clothes I had to fight for my life that day and luckily got away with only a knife scar I would have rather gotten rejected 100 times than have to live through that day.
I'm sorry that that happened to you, but, I'm sure you've had some positive experiences with guys, and your boyfriend has had positive experiences with girls, well, I haven't, I've just seen the bad in people, and that's about it, even the good people didn't want me. Honestly, I wished that the girl that rejected me ended my life as well, I truly wish that, after turning me down, she pulled out a gun and shot me.
I think you are being so negative that you are attracting only negative things happening in your life. I think you should try letting go of your hatred and sadness and focus on your work or something for a while be patient and stop hating others and yourself uselessly. After I got rejected by this guy who was a real asshole (and a slut tbh) He flirted with me and told me how pretty I was and how much he liked my personality (blah blah blah!) and shit like that at this party and then as soon as I left the party he got a blowjob from another girl! I was wondering why he was acting weird around me and them someone told me what happened and he just stopped talking to me all together and I had to see him every day at school and at rehearsals for the play. After than I was super hurt and angry and felt so stupid but I decided by agonizing over it I was making things worse for myself and I focused on school and my friends and felt better and a few months later found my current bf at grad
"If anyone has the right to hate the opposite gender it's me"
IOW it's okay for but not for thee. Typical female answer.
I hear you, bro.
You notice that when it's a man justifiably angry at women the response is "you need help" but when it's a woman that uses violence against a man or group of men the response is "you go, girl".
Saying to think more positive and things will get better is giving people false hope. Trust me I lived in a fantasy for a long time. It got me NOWHERE good