Do you think ugly guys should just give up?

[Anonymous]

So, Its no secret girls are virtually exclusive to liking guys with abs and shit. Many polls on here stand testiment to that. The hotter guy ALWAYS gets the girl. (I did a poll on here, That said given all guys had the same personality, Which body type would you go for, And like 96% said the ripped guy with abs)

So, Do you think, Us guys who are just naturally ugly / not physically capable of getting abs and shit, Should just give up and accept a lonely death? Or just continue pointlessly pursuing a futile form of happiness from girls who want jack shit to do with us?

*I Think its worth nothing, This is not a rant against women or a hate speech or anything, I understand why they only go for hot guys, This is just a question about ugly dudes)

Yes, They should just give up.

No, They should keep on trying for the rest of their life until it never pays off and they finally die alone.

[Ashely_Princess]

No, they shouldn't. They should keep on trying to look for that special someone that will like them for who they are and they wouldn't want to change them. Some pretty girls might find ugly guys attractive because they don't even know that their ugly, they might just of fell in love with their personality. Because you know how you weren't attracted to someone at first but then when you get to know them, they start becoming more attractive to you? That's how it is sometimes. I know a lot of guys that I liked that were not good looking but once I got to know them, they started to become more attractive to me. Some girls like guys that don't have to be perfect. Like they don't have to have muscles or abs or muscles in their arms or legs, some girls are going to like them for who they are because that's important to them. I really don't think some guys are ugly though, I just think some guys are not that good looking than other guys because you know, God didn't make ugly people but he didn't make them perfect either. So all of you non-good looking guys out there, don't give up on looking for that special girl because she will come one day and you'll know when she does. God bless you :) :D <3 <3 <3

[Anonymous]

I think abs are gross. I'm in love with a fat man right now. But it won't work out because I'm the ugliest girl on earth. Besides you're under 18 when you get into the real world women will want you as long as you respect them and love them for who they are.

[Opinion Owner]

I don't know why I got downvoted. I'm telling the truth. Men care about looks way more then woman. My guy friend is fat and has had 16 girlfriends.

[Theguywhomadeurday]

I upvoted you but please don't say abs are gross.

We workout really hard & maintain diet to get them n maintain them.

[Opinion Owner]

I don't care. I'm saying it cause I'm tired of guys thinking they need huge muscles and abs to get a girlfriend when in reality we really don't care about that.

[Theguywhomadeurday]

Who told you that?
I never workout with the motive to get a girlfriend... lol

I like and that's the only reason I do it.

[Opinion Owner]

I hear it all the time from a lot of guys

[cyclekarl]

Women care about looks or money. A man likes a woman for what she is but women only like mg for what they can do for them.

[Anonymous]

If you don't punch above your weight and don't go for the hottest girl in the class then you shouldn't give up. But if you got for bitchy hot Mean girls you are going to struggle. So go for the quiet shy little dork in the corner and you will find love.

[Asker]

I have tried talking to / going near unnatractive girls, heck, i even tried talking to a couple girls who i would consider obese, yet even they wanted fuck all to do with me because i wasn't hot enough -_-

[Opinion Owner]

Well they are living in a dreamland if they think they can get the hot school jock!!! Some girls etc don't release that they having no luck cos they go for the wrong ones. Celebrities? I get crushes on celebrities who wouldn't go near me if they got paid. Make some friends and go from there. Most hot girls and guys are full of themselves.

[ranma187]

Actually i find uglier girls to be more mean and bitchy 'cause a lot of them act like they are hotter than they are. girls that are 7 + on the 10 scale are actually way more friendly.

[Opinion Owner]

I am ugly and I do not think I am Hot. But yes, you can get people who are delusional and full of themselves who look like dogs too, I suppose. Its called Narcissism.

[knight1986]

Never give up with anything in life, when i first met my wife, i also wondered why would such a beautiful girl want to even talk to me, but i mustered enough courage to go up to her and talk to her... and you know what... she actually gave me a chance and i showed her respect and began to see the person i was on the inside. Yes i agree we all often want the hottest girl/girl out there, maybe its something instinctive we do, not sure, but i think in a way i can be to your advantage if you are average looking like me, then you know the girl likes you for who you are, i guess

[DanHart]

I have no abs and don't want any, it's like a tattoo you can't get rid off, I'm naturally toned. But it's true that women care much about the face and the build when it comes to guys. Women have rated a whopping 80% of all men as "below average" in a survey. Realistic though : Most don't dress well or don't take enough care of themselves.

What I want to say is : Women care a whole lot about looks , not as they claim " We are not as visual as guys " Which is a lie. Just look at videos with "hot guys" and the girls go crazy in the comments. They are as picky as guys.

[SomewhereElse]

this is all true for instant attraction, but attraction can grow over time. For me, it almost never happens that I see a guy that I find consciously attractive, they always grow on me and all of a sudden, I'll be all like "whoa, that guy is HOT"

[evenlift]

Masculine charm is the main way to attract a woman. Unfortunately, learning masculine charm after having been emasculated by the culture your whole life is a challenge even for an average guy. And, if you're ugly, you have to be even more charming to compensate. So, it will indeed be difficult.

[Klaatu51]

congrats for master!

[Floyd790]

Looks before everything else.

[Klaatu51]

read here bro... this might help u:

www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1577088-is-there-anybody-else-here-who-gave-up-finding-a-partner-by-their-own

[Ghosty]

Why shouldn't you not be physically capable of getting in shape? That's a mind game man. And even then, There are more girls than guys on this planet. Enough singles. Maybe you won't get the most beautiful you're aiming for, but that doesn't mean "giving up". Additionally, there's no such thing as same personality. You can be nicer, wittier, funnier.

If everything is same and one factor (body) is better, ofc, people pick the best.

[Asker]

i use to be obese and have lost a lot of weight to try and improve my body, but i know have loose skin as a result, so i have given up.

[Ghosty]

you're under 18 man.. you really want to give up for the next 60 years? you worked so hard to lose it. now work the same to gain some muscles man. that part is more fun.

[Asker]

Why even bother? I will always have the loose skin, And heck, the only way to remove it is surgery that can cost $30,000 - $75,000, Not to mention i will be left with MASSIVE scars all over my torso.
No matter what i do, No matter how much muscle i gain, My body will always be repulsive, I cry just looking at it myself, I cannot even imagine how sickened another person would be by it, so i dont want to put myself in that situation.
Id rather not even try then make someone uncomfortable.

[Ghosty]

you sound like you came here for pity and supportive (for your mindset) "give up" calls, as you reason with everyone telling you otherwise.. you got my opinion bruh. you got a good chance. stop hating on your skin, there's potential.

[Tromba]

You don't have to have looks but you do have to have something I think. For sure you can't be miserable, misery is not attractive.

[Asker]

I have Misery BECAUSE im not attractive.

[Tromba]

I'm average looking at best but I'm smart, successful and have an easygoing upbeat personality and women have always been very attracted to me, particularly when I was in my mid 20's. It puzzled me at first because when I was a teen I thought like you it was all about looks and maybe for teen girls it is but the older and more experienced girls are, the less they care about looks.

[ArchDruidMordred]

I don't want to pick yes because i believe that every guy deep down has a sleeping alpha male waiting to be set loose. But I'm not going to pick the second option either because I just don't agree with your mindset.

[NordicInvader]

Abs are not everything, but you have to have some other quirk going for you to attract the girls. I'm pretty thin, and the only girls I can seem to attract are also thin. But there's always going to be someone out there that'll find you attractive.

[Anonymous]

I guess I am the other percentage... I find abs repulsive and like chubbier guys and even fat guys. They are more loveable. I don't know why I just want to cuddle with one.

[fullmetalhetalia]

No, just because someone finds you unattractive doesn't mean everyone is.

[apexalpha]

I know guys that been rated 8/10 by girls and are single its about your game mostly

[Goldie757]

I guess they could lower their standards.

[Asker]

Sadly, Even ugly girls don't want ugly guys.

[Goldie757]

@asker well lucky for you many ugly girls (and attractive) when they hit 30 they become desperate to settle down.

[Asker]

But 30 ? I need to endure 14+ years of shitty loneliness until girls will finally lower their standards ?, Good gosh...

[Goldie757]

@asker I doubt you look as bad as you think. Do you have a pic.

[Asker]

I have done a rate me on Gag before, 15% said 4-5/10, 41% said 6-7/10 and 26% said 8-9/10.
Average that out and my face is a 5 or 6 /10 at best.

And body wise, My body is identical to the ''Dad Bod'' guy in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPR8NV9wrFM

[Goldie757]

@asker 5 is average. I usually go for 5s. Also a lot of girls are into the dad bod. Plus you could always hit the gym.

[Asker]

I do hit the gym, i use to be very very very fat, and thats where i am now, But, its at the point where if i loose any more weight i will get loose skin, and that shit looks 50trillion times worse then being overweight, so, yeah, im fucked no matter what i do.

[Goldie757]

@asker I lost 60lbs and have no loose skin. Because you are very young it less likey to happen. Losing weight at a steady pace and weight training can keep skin tight.

[Asker]

It varies from person to person, Its all about genetics how bad your loose skin is. I have lost 65lbs and have another 20lbs to go :/.

[Goldie757]

@asker well good luck.

[Maverickj]

It doesn't work that way for guys. Lowering your standards works if you're a girl, because girls can often easily get a boyfriend. The same does not apply to guys. My standards are literally non-existent, yet I'm still single. You girls don't know the struggle.

[Goldie757]

@Maverickj "girls can often easily get a boyfriend" no they can't, I can't. Its easy for a woman to get laid though.

[Maverickj]

@Goldie757 girls claim that it's not easy to get a boyfriend, because they never actually ask guys out. They sit around and wait for a guy to sweep them off their feet, then they whine when that doesn't happen. Rarely do they actually ask guys out themselves, they just "hint" at best.

[Goldie757]

@Maverickj actually I always approach guys as they never approach me. I still find it hard to get a boyfriend.

[cyclekarl]

I am 55 I am very ugly have never dated and have up at 40.

[dudegrt09]

For the 100th time, looks doesn't matter with guys

[Asker]

Thats complete and utter bulshit and you know it, Looks are everything with guys.
Its girls who need a good personality.

[dudegrt09]

okay good luck with women then... however this will clear your doubts to some extent
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If this doesn't prove my point I don't know what will. I can give you 100 more examples.

[Floyd790]

That doesn't prove anything in the real world Girls care about looks. You rarely see a hot guy with an ugly girl and rarely see a hot girl with an ugly guy. Unless it's a sugar daddy scenario.

[Asker]

Notice how all those guys are EXTREMELY fucking rich.

[Floyd790]

Yep in the real world looks matter. He's looking at rich celebrities.

[dudegrt09]

I see ugliest guys with the hottest girl that's the point. You seem like 14 y. o. to me so you'll learn that. The point of these pics was that the ugliest guys are getting hottest girls. You just need to develop a personality that is dominant, fun and have leadership qualities. First step would be to change your attitude... trust me power, influence and value (in the eyes of others) is the ultimate aphrodisiac for women.

[Asker]

Dude, That first guy is called Mariyln manson, The man is absolutely fucking loaded!, he's a millionaire musician, The second one, The guy dosent even look bad? he's fairly muscular, The third one, I don't know who he is, But he looks like a fucking billionaire.
Looks are only irrlevent if you have lots of money.

[GamerQueen1995]

@dudegrt09

I agree with you. My fat guy friend has had 16 girlfriends all of them were attractive. He's very poor too so it's not about the money. I'm the ugliest girl on earth and have had no boyfriends. Guys care more about looks then girls do. I'm actually thinking about killing myself soon because of it. I do approach guys but they reject me and end up making fun of me.

[dudegrt09]

well the third guy is a booker prize winning author, it's not the money that women are attracted to, it's the power, influence and value that the money signify... most good looking guys fail with women cause they do not have certain personality traits. Any guy who's good with women will tell you that.

[dudegrt09]

@GamerQueen1995 well it's tough but not something to end your life for... don't take it seriously. I'm sure you can always loose weight and look good. The thing about appearance is that no matter how bad you think you look there is ALWAYS room for improvement. There are several ways to enhance you looks... it is a completely malleable aspect of you.

[dudegrt09]

@Asker I suggest that you hit the gym and get fucking ripped, some women are more into muscles than the face.

[GamerQueen1995]

@dudegrt09

But then guys would only want me for my looks and just use me for sex. Plus you don't think I've tried diets and exercise before? I have tried a low carb diet plus exercise for 5 months and didn't lose any weight. Plus I barley eat that much anyway and me and my dad wonder why I'm still fat. I've seen videos from when I was a kid and I'm fat. Maybe it's a medical thing? I might need to see a doctor. And if that the case, I will kill myself. Even if I became skinny I'd still be ugly to men.

[dudegrt09]

@GamerQueen1995 well men can be shallow, but don't do it for them, do it cause if you will lose weight you'll be able to ward off various health risks, and it'll be beneficial for your future. The self regulated diets hardly work, same is the case with exercise. You'll need a professional for that. I've seen many people who were quite overweight as kids and became skinny as fuck in their adult life. so it's not such a big deal as you're making it to be. However you will need quite a lot of dedication to achieve significant goals, but it'll be totally worth it.

[GamerQueen1995]

@dudegrt09

What's the only reason to lose weight except doing it to find love? Any other reason doesn't do it for me. Besides like I said even if I'm skinny I'll still be ugly.

[Asker]

@GamerQueen1995
No, You won't ''still be ugly''. Don't take this the wrong way, Infact, take it in the best of ways.
Looking at your profile picture, Your face is kinda round. BUT, I can see you have beautiful facial features (Nice eyes, Nice smile, Nice nose, Nice cheekbones etc), The problem is, It gets drowned out in fat mass. And if you lost weight, Your face would be so fucking incredibly beautiful, All your facial features would stand out so much more (Seriously, Your face gets so much hotter as you loose weight, Trust me, I was obese and did a rate my face on here and average out 3-4/10, After loosing 65lb i did it again, And i had 26% of people saying 9/10 and 41% of people saying 7/10. )
Seriously dude, If you loose weight, You would be a fucking stunner!, Don't put yourself down before you even begin, Hoenstly, You would be so incredibly beautiful and would be well worth it.
I wish you all the best my friend.

[dudegrt09]

@GamerQueen1995
like I said do it for yourself and to improve your own self image, plus warding off health risks is much genuine reason than finding love in my opinion. I think you'll look awesome when you'll lose weight, just make some efforts and within an year you'll look great. You'll know that you look good when guys will be hitting on you. Don't have a defeatist attitude without even trying.

[GamerQueen1995]

@dudegrt09

Doing it for being healthy isn't worth it. Finding love is way more important when you're a girl. And yes I'd still be ugly even if I was skinny.

[dudegrt09]

@GamerQueen1995
Okay if you think finding love is more important so be it. what asker said is right, you do have attractive features all you need to do is work on yourself. If I had a dollar for everytime I saw an overweight person turning from fat to fab I'll be a really rich man. Guys are much more into body than face many times, and you're already got great facial features so I don't see why you wouldn't look good after losing a couple of pounds. No need to get ultra skinny you'll get quite curvy, just try hitting the gym and hire a professional.

[GamerQueen1995]

@dudegrt09

I'll message you so we can talk about this more.