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I personally don't think I'd ever really go to a strip club and definitely not if I am in love.
Who cares? Does it really matter? It is not like he is out having sex or cheating. He and his friends are paying to see boobies.
I think the group aspect definitely has something to do with it. maybe he feels like he needs to conform
Guys minds revolve around sex... Work, Sex, Friends... girlfriends and their feelings tend to come last... sad but true. There are a ton of guys though, that think strippers and porno and boob mags are nasty. Best to pick one of those as a partner if having your man oogle at naked woman isn’t your thing... most guys lie about it too!!
I had a boyfriend that flat out told me that staring at naked woman when your in a relationship is essentially cheating... I had never given him my opinion on the subject yet either... he made references to some of his friends comments, over the span of a year and a half, saying how immature they were, and needy, and how he was once like that, but had changed his ways 6 months before we met.
He had made a whole big deal about how porno was degrading to woman, and was feverishly upset and disgusted when another man sent me a ridiculous message from a buy and sell site, asked me to have sex with him for money...$1000 to be exact. Of course I told the guy off and got him bared from the site, but the guy I was dating went on and on about how that was so degrading and wrong...
one day my phone got stolen... and since I had a whole day of dealing with that and needed a phone, when he was about to leave for the day I asked him if I could borrow his... apprehensively he agreed.
It was because of that apprehension that I decided to snoop a bit... Well!! I was on his phone for 10 hours straight! There was no end in sight!!
He was watching all sorts of porn! Not just porn, but extremely nasty porn, and he didn’t seem to have much preference of what kind of woman he was watching either... great big huge ones with so many roles you would get lost in them, to tiny skinny ones that I am sure were not even of age... and this boyfriend of mine was in his 40’s... to top that off... he was also on a bunch of local escort sites as well...
He lied sooooo bad, that I just had to get rid of him. It wasn’t about all that he was truly into... it was that he took me for a fool enough to believe his BS for a year and a half that he would never do such a thing, that it was bad, and it was cheating in his eyes...
I simply tossed him back his phone when he walked in and said... “So... looks like your a cheater... just want you to be clear... it’s because you are a liar, that I’m letting you go, and consider your self lucky that’s all I’m going to do.”
Your personality is gross.
False. Women just make a big deal out of things.
@jeffbb26 Right, honestly, men treat us like we're some precious little China dolls, and the second we so much as look at a guy who's hotter than him, he gets all fucking possessive and starts mumbling and flexing his tiny little muscles and shit. Tell me again who's overeacting?
Your response is irrational, controlling and displays serious sexual repression.
I think that he will have a miserable life, if he marries you.
The worst thing is that yoi talked about this. If he doesn't respect your feelings and choises now , he will never do it. Dump him and done.
I don't. The only girl I want to watch strip is my own.
That'll change bud. Keep it up as long as u can tho
@snatchkisser
No, it won't. But thanks for your superior insight into my life.
😏 ok - i could never be more superior than your crystal ball. My apologies
Haha So since I don't fit in with your narrative about how men are, I'm just some lunatic.
Guys like you are what give men a bad name.
What are you talking about? Men don't have a bad name as far as I can tell. I think you're confused. Get back with me in a couple of years when your balls have dropped
It's a guys way of testing the waters. What exactly am I giving up by signing away my life to you. Let me do that one last time and get a life threatening STI to contact to you on our honeymoon.
Through clothes? I guess someone didn't pay attention during sex ed classes.
You can easily fuck them during a bachelor party. Who said fucking is off limits?
It's a tradition for bachelor party's to have a stripper's. It's a way to say goodbye to the single life. Women do it to with male stripper's Bachelorette party's.
You either love each other or you do not but the fact your in it over a small event like this is a sign for trouble to come.
Bingo
Got to agree with this.
Marriage can be beautiful but challenging at the same time.
For my best friends bachelor party we avoided strip clubs etc. If a best man can't use his imagination to find an awesome party without a stop club if it bothers the bride then that's the wrong person for the job
you act like women don't/can't have batchelorette parties.
That's exactly where adultery starts. When you look at another womand and secretly want her, you already committed adultery.
I would never ever go to a strip club, especially not when I'm going to get married. From my point of view, you are right.
Its kinda like an American tradition honestly but if you told him not to do it and he still did it knowing that you have a serious problem with it, then you guys need to RESPECT each others boundaries.
Well I know they do it as a “last haraw” before getting married but yes I still find it ridiculous when you can just go to a nice dinner.
Call it off. If you can't trust him with something as simple as that, you won't be able to trust him later on either.
If he is going marry you then he already made a promise to you and you should trust that he didn't do anything wrong.
Dont stress to much and he told you where he was going so please just trust that at least.
It would have been worse if he didn't tell you at all. :)
Good luck, i hope it works out :)
It's their last time being single, why not party hard before they can't go back!!!
I dont see the need. I've always gone go carting or paintballing or something adrenaline oriented.
I rather a fiancé have a house party with his male friends and get drunk there but not in a room full of strippers or women haha
You should call off the wedding to prevent him from being locked into a controlling marriage he will later regret.
Dude stfu
She shouldn't have to. He should of thought first before becoming drunk and attending a strip club. There are other ways to celebrate that does not include booze and strip models.
I agree that she should call of the wedding--but in her best interest, not in his. You're a real piece of work...
Oi. I think you misunderstood me. I was saying, HE should of not went to a bloody strip club. But yes, she should. He only has himself to blame.
See how these older guys are? Like I always say younger guys seem to have it together far more than older guys.
@Stavinair Sorry, that wasn't directed at you, it was directed at the OP.
Because my generation seems to have more consideration. Adults mock us for being "disconnected" from reality while we use our devices, but honestly, doing that has expanded our minds, and helped us to imagine what it's like to be in someone's shoes.
Short-circuit its Aight man. I got confused myself!
Times change. Norms change. Such is life.
I agree. Instead of setting a good example to younger guys they don't. But its good more younger guys think for themselves and don't follow what these old scumbags do.
There's hope. Things will change when my generation comes of age. Mark my words.
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I think it's weird in general (if you are in a relationship) to go to a strip club, I don't get the appeal.
It could be his friends pressured him into it and told him not to be pussy whipped because then you will never get to ever have a guys night out again sort of thing?
not all guys do it, i personally dont like it
but if you're going to assume all guys do it then you have to assume all women have penis themed ones so you're not aloud to complain
They just wanted to have some quality male time together, but I guess you're right!
He could've said no but he was too drunk to do anything and the peer pressure was high
People just follow the tradition...
It all depends on how the person follows it
If the guy likes you then he'd bwhave well even in the filthiest places.
It's a tradition, and the only reason for you to be upset is if you're insecure about yourself, your relationship, and him. Call it off, leave him, and save you both the heart ache, and divorce.
I'd like those who down voted to explain how I'm wrong. Lol
The issue there is disrespecting a partners wishes. Personally to me the strip clubs don’t bother me. but if my partner and I had a conversation and I expressed how hurt I would be for them to do something or vice versa and then we agreed not to but actually did it anyway. That’s disrespectful it is disregarding your feelings because they think it’s not that big of deal. Even tho it was shared how it did matter to them it was treated like nothing. That’s the issue I see. As far as what makes sense for a person to be upset about.
Fair enough. I just don't see a point in tripping about it to start with. I mean it's one thing to see a stripper, get a lap dance, and all that. If you're banging a chick at your bachelor party, you shouldn't be getting married. That's just me though. My wife gots no issues with me going to a tittie bar cause she trusts me. Plus I know all the girls outside work anyways. Lol
And for your relationship that’s cool. Each relationship is different. I think setting boundaries is important in every relationship at the start so as to avoid incompatibility etc down the road. Personally my fiancé worked as a bouncer at a club and so they are not sexual fantasies but working women to him.
That's what I meant about I knew all of them. I agree, I just don't get the tripping out on it. Unless his dick left his britches.
It's peer pressure. He couldn't say no. And I'm sure he lives you. Are you really going to end it over one dance? Seems a little disproportionate. Ps I have never been to a strip club
Its his last night as an unmarried guy. Give him a break. He is walking down the isle to you on your wedding day. U should go out and get wild too with ur girls!
Hope he doesn't get VD.
That's a dumb mindset.
This sounds like the first hand at trying to control what somebody does and is a bad way to start a marriage... it is an old fashioned thing that a bachelors party consists of... if he didn't cheat...
Let him be you’re lucky you’re not with a guy like me I used to go to the strip club behind my girls back but almost lost her because I got caught... at least he told you the truth
It's not a big deal and you're very insecure. Insecurities such as this are a huge red flag and reason enough to call it off... so yeah, maybe you should
Because hedonism is rampant in modern society.
Look this guy is going to be with you for the rest of his life so you should let him at least have some fun before the main event if you know what I mean...
1. He is going to be committed to you for the rest of his life.
2. He didn't consent since he was intoxicated.
3. What is wrong with having fun?
4. Try and not live vicariously through him you will only get jealous.
It is in a mans genes. It sucks to put it this way but women were just designed to give birth. We were designed to pass on our genes as much as we could.
Call it off. Weddings are just like toilet paper. You wipe a few times and flush.
WOW, RAY of sunshine you are. had a lot of experience with divorces i suppose?
@DianaWest nah. Marriage is overrated. You don't need to be married to be with a girl.
Ahh, smart thinking right there. Then you won't be forced to give your house up.
@DianaWest nope because I did not merry a gold digger.
Because we're men. I went to one in Vegas the night before my wedding and had two strippers fully nude giving me oral sex letting me do things to them aswell. Talk about a great night. Her dad was there too and was having an equally good time
I’m a man and I wouldn’t accept oral sex from two other women if I was getting married lmao I understand a harmless lap dance but holy shit
@OatsnWhey wasn't married yet!
If you're even thinking about calling off the wedding about something as small as a lap dance, you shouldn't be marrying anyone anyways... Because you don't care about the person, you only care about the status of marriage.
It's just a thing. It's one last thing to do with his buddies before he's tied down. It's not like he's having sex with them. I would knowingly let my fiance go to one and I'm the jealous type, it's not that big a deal
Yeah spare him the horror by calling off the wedding.
But
For a lap dance? Really? Grow up lol
I think it is a trend n not really a choice of the groom.. bachelorette parties aren't less wild either... these r kind of an unsaid tradition
Those guys are not the serious type. They have eyes for other women. Theyll talk about other women. They can't really be faithfull.
Its a us tradition i believe. I think its rather stupid tbh.
I have seen a lot of sicker sh*t in bachelorette parties tough
Don't call off the wedding, lol. And don't take this too personally. Us men do stupid things, especially when we are in love.
Only some guys like that, for example for a friend of mine we had a massive bbq and lan. Depends on the guys I guess, but we went for nostalgia
I think you really need to address this or break up-this will likely only lead to worse. As it is-he's shown no regard for your feelings
He’s about to be shackled from head to toe having sex with the same girl until you guys eventually get divorced, let him have a night 🙄😂
Because they can't have affairs, but want to see sum before settling with the same person for years (hopefully)
Doesn't make it right.
Wtf is that lame reason? if he wants to see other naked women so badly and he feels the need to say a "last goodbye" he shouldn't be getting married in the first place. You wanna see other naked women? Don't be in a relationship simple.
Why disrespectful? He is commeting his future to the bride so it's should be the last approtonity for him for the rest of his life seeing other women.
That sounds like his fiance is a burden who stops him from seeing other women, if he doesn't have enough commitement to see her as the only woman he wants then he should break the fuck up with her before he hurts her
That's Bulshit, last day single he should enjoy life and what isn't one of the best ways if not a strip club
If he can't enjoy life with his fiance, he shouldn't even bother having her
When you will get there you will understand.
Most guys don't care for strip clubs tbh... At least not nowadays where you can see plenty more with your phone
I didn't go and don't feel the urge to do so, but if my wife wants to go I Trust Her and would gladly take that excitement when she got home.
I do not see the issue about it.
It's a social/cultural thing for most guys tip go to strip clubs for their bachelor's party.
I think you are taking it too personally and reading too much into it.
#1 he didn't organise it. #2 dont ever do something that he feels is disrespectful to him. #3 i dont know your relationship but by the sounds of your overreaction its not going to last anyway
“Don’t ever do something that he feels is disrespectful towards him” tf? Oh yeah. But he can do whatever he wants right?
Not even remotely close to what i said
Standard, read it the way you want to read it not the way its intended
Dude... I have eyes. I can understand what I’m reading. You’re telling her to stop disrespecting him, and telling her that she’s overreacting.
. Bitch please
Get the fuck out of here.
Lol, I will whenever I want to. Bitch 😂
Also nice comeback. LMAO
My personal opinion is that the wife 2 be should be present right next to her future husband while he gets the dances and then she can see his true self in the heat of the moment.
If both of you had discussed then can understand. But, I think if both of you are deciding to marry then let him enjoy. It's like the last days to enjoy. Once he ties the knot, then no more
What the hell is that about? Last days of joy? He has decided to get married!! Its supposed to be cause SHE is his joy and he can't wait to spend the rest of his life with her!! No one is forcing him! But some of you guys make it sound like if he was going to die, and needs to take the most of his last days of life
He has yes and he won't be doing any of this. It's like one last time enjoy and that's it like. I don't mind if my SO went for stag like. After marriage if any of these stunts are pulled without yelling your SO then it's a problem
I mean girls have the same things to but with boys but I mean it's not like he's cheating on you or like fingering another girl I can understand if he was having sex but having a dance that's just sad
Lmao if my future husband did this, I would drop him immediatley.
He would be a lucky man then.
Guys like kinky dirty stuff. Strip clubs are live porn for them.
Plenty other things to do which are actually more fun