Or he was unable to find a decent woman because they are too few and far between. (Not to imply that it's not the same for men though). Nice shaming tactic by the way, but MGTOW don't really give a damn about such manipulative practices.
I'm MGTOW. It's hard to deny the reality that many men have had their lives destroyed by marrying or impgrenating the wrong woman.
I think that this world is full of bad people, and we all need to protect ourselves. (Just as women need to stop dating shitbags who will beat them, and then be deadbeat dads after the fact)
Far too many men (Myself included) have wasted too much and given to much of ourselves trying to please women. The *cost* of relationships with women simply is not justified in most cases.
I don't hate women in any sense of the word. All of my besties are women. I date women. I am more than happy to fight for equal (Not superior though) rights for women.
It's just that my life is more centered on myself now, and placing women second. Most women are not worth the effort. I've never been happier than I am working security because there aren't any women here. I don't need to be forced to interact with manipulative entitled people who use false rape claims as a weapon. I choose to have friends with *Good* women, and I'm able to avoid the bad ones, such as feminists.
There are absolutely men who have done terrible things to women. With all the stories my friends tell me, I honestly feel like I'm the only guy who doesn't beat women. Lots of total shitbags out there.
There are absolutely terrible horrendous cunts out there, and MGTOW is the response to it. If you're a *Good* woman then you'll still be approached by MGTOW men. That is the catch though, you have to be worth it. Most western women simply aren't.
I'll go my own way and only date women who seem to be decent people and seem to have more to offer than their vagina. That's my prerogative.
If that bugs you, then I would suggest some self introspection on why.
Ah sure, I don't trust anyone who stays with an unfit partner for an extended period of time, they have personal issues they refuse to confront.
True. Many men and women stay in bed relationships because they are scared to be alone, or don't want society shaming them.
That's part of what MGTOW is though, advising men not to be with women for the sake of being with women. I would advise the same for women of course.
Happiness comes from within. Relationships can supplement it, but if we ourselves aren't *happy* to begin with, they're simply not sustainable.
I don't want anybody staying in a toxic relationship. Some people have, and some people are bitter. At the end of the day all you can do is try to select a better partner next time and give it another go. Be happy with yourself regardless.
You for example. You dislike MGTOW and Sandman especially. You know what though? I wish you the best, and I wish you a healthy relationship with whomever you wind up with. MGTOW isn't inherently about hate. I'm just choosing to love myself first. I hope you find love too. Cheers.
Well good for you, he does broad paint women though. His ideology is women are inherently useless, toxic and incapable of loving anyone but themselves when it's men who have proven to be this way for years, that's of course excluding the useless part, men aren't useless to society.
This isn't an argument but here's a very short video that I would like you to watch. Perhaps this will shed some light into why men are going their own way.
https://youtu.be/YU0n6FWC910
The game is rigged against men. I was lucky that I was able to avoid the trap, but others aren't so lucky. The legal system rewards and incentivises women for poor behavior. Women aren't held accountable in the same way men are in the eyes of the law.
MGTOW exists to warn men about these realities. Of we truly lived in a patriarchy as women suggest, women wouldn't be able to cheat on their husbands then profit from it. Marriage is simply a raw deal for men. MGTOW won't be going anywhere until the government stops tilting the playing field in favor of women and giving them superior legal status.
no we don't want to beat you up lol
hun its just women in general
there was a 15 year study done on you women and it showed your true colors
and men are noticing and do not want anything to do with you women
basically you women have become just a fuck
we do not care about you anymore, cause you should have been honest from the start, it would have helped so many men out
and they would have not gone through
so many issues especially the young men
so now we are trying to education the young men, and there are 14 year old boys
that have become very sad and annoyed, cause they see it too
and there just like
WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO!!!
cause they like you girls but they can see you women are not worth it, so he has to hold it in
and for a young age man that's rough
for the older men who have already had plenty of sex it's easier
cause it's just sex
and just to let you know im not even MGTOW cause I believe in the words of GOD
but im also a realist
I accept reality for what it is
That's hubris if nothing else
@yogagirl777
no that's reality
here is a women on her death bed she admitted it
to her friend before she died
she is now gone but her message is still sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz-frhnxoec&t=271s
AND MY GOD IS ABOVE THE DOME (THE SKY IS BLUE CAUSE THERE IS WATER ON TOP OF IT)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2L6KepPgEA&t=3s
This is narrated by a man... how would you know the message is actually from a woman?
@yogagirl777
make a choice to believe her words or not cause what she said has come to pass
there are women fucking dogs online right now
you bitches are crazy lol
Jesus Christ this is exactly why people are distrusting of men because they do things like this, he is the one lying. He made all that up to suit his scheming, misogynist mindset. I am not even going to argue with you because this will just lead to another ban. You're the ones who push women's buttons.
Thank you friend 👌
I did not make this shit up
do not fucking lie
im just relaying the info
whether you believe it or not I do not care
actions speak for themselves
that's why it took so long to finish the study on you women (15 years)
cause you women kept lying
so they ignored what you women say
and just looked at your actions
its on video lol
Men lie more than anyone else and whatever women lie about men actually didn't want to know the truth to. I also watch what men do and not what they say, you didn't invent observation, good day to your sir.
ok keep lying to yourself
that's what you women do
you never humble yourself and take account for your actions lol
typical
and no WOMEN LIE WAY MORE THEN MEN
its on fucking video she says looks is not everything
start at 11:50 mins ALL SHE DOES IS LIE
she has no idea how to be real
you women are fake and shallow as fuck
but I will say one thing thank you
cause all of this has made me extremely shallow now lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5wPQ-ALD7E
the studies show this
basically if men are not a 9 out of 10
we are not good enough even for the average and ugly girls lol
you women are fucking retarded
whatever Idea you women have in your head is not real
80% of you women are average or below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vqRbScCIPU&t=1s
anyone who wants to know girl code for women talk
She is talking in Girl Code:
1: Posture = Confidence = difficult or easy target
2: Emotions = Easily Manipulated
3: Smiles = Disposition Happy = Safe
4: Shoes = Status. Expensive shoes = Rich
5: Speech = Congruence = Honesty and Sanity = Safe
6: Manners = Status or Earning Potential and obedience
7: Hairdo = Hair = Genetics and Grooming = Vanity
8: Style = Status and wealth
9: Friends = Social Status via pre-selection by other girls
She is checking you out as a controllable provider.
Sexual attraction is instinctual and subconscious.
Yes looks matter most they become blind to the rest
You are so young and so misinformed. You also sound bitter, indoctrinated by woman hating groups and dangerous, do not go anywhere near people's daughters.
You can just hear how loser like these guys are listening to their voice and delivery, I'm sorry but it's you men overall that are trying to force yourselves unto dream girls that you have natural hatred to anyway. I know people like these guys, I've met and dated them, they have deep rooted issues.
ohh no if you have a daughter once she grows up im gonna fuck the shit out of her and send her back you looking like a cum rag
ohh and me and you are almost the same age lol
and no im not indoctrinated
im just accepting reality for what I see
and what I have seen is that you women have lied a lot
having learning all this
I started to go over some conversations I have had with female family members and female friends in my head
IT WAS ALL A LIE
they are either scared of telling the truth
or just lie cause they want to
I no longer give females the benefit of the doubt
you women are trash to me
there is such a small percent of good women its crazy
figuring out which one is worth it lol
good luck
just pump and dump
the issue is you women lied
you want to know what would have happened if most of the women just told the truth
1) men would be doing their best to look good for you girls all the time around the clock
2) they would be building muscle and by the time they hit HS most of the guys would have bodies like this and no im not joking
peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/.../...-600-1.jpg
but no you women decided to lie and tell all the guys looks do not matter that much
now there are a ton of fat fucks around
that are unhealthy and need to do exercise and look good
but whatever
enjoy your 10% lol
You are a psycho, the guy in the video sounds like a moron, he has a stupid voice, makes my clitoris retract. You have no confidence, bad intentions and a defeated attitude, it can be heard in these guys voices and your writing. I've given men like these a chance, they are assholes whose bloodline need to end with you.
So you blame others for treating yourself and body like shit? Be who you are and date your own kind, there are girls in your league, but no you don't want those girls.
hun lol
let me describe myself a little
im 6+ in height
im muscular
I have girls on my phone offering me their mouth
im decent looking so girls do approach me from time to time
im the guy in the fantasy that pins you women down fucks you like whores and walks out the door not giving a damn anymore
but guess what it has nothing to do with if I can get a women
cause I can its not hard
I have offers right now
women in general need to change
they're fucked in the head
because if guys like me and hotter are agreeing with this
it means
something is wrong with you women and us men are noticing
haha, no you're not any of those things, you must think I am retarded, anyway goodbye now.
hahahahah
like a women can not accept reality
I feel sorry for you and the poor unsuspecting girl that has anything to do with you.
hun you are an average girl going after a 9
the chance of you actually getting him lol
when the are girls who just hands down look better
good luck
I told you before im accepting reality for what it is
also I believe in GOD so I try not to lie
im not like you
who lies about everything
I am above average without makeup and bald was bald which is a style I wore when I was younger. Also calling me average would def still be a compliment... but still, byeboy I'm pretty. And you're still lying, I will marry Nick so you can cry in the car.
you are not even above average with make up lol
you are average i will not lie to you
no point
men are not like women
men are just more honest
and way better character wise
but I love the fact that this 15 year study came out on you women
it shows what you really are lol
ohh and tell that to the girls on my phone offering me sex lol
good luck slut
You sound really retarded, I'm sorry but I really do.
Oh boy. I hope not many. I know they mean well for themselves but I've seen a very dark side to that movement.
These guys are not to be hated. If anything, they are to be pitied.
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I have a girlfriend right now, and I'm not an active supporter of MGTOW. To me... the movement sounds like it's for people who have given up on women, and I never give up. However, I do agree with their overall message - don't worry about women and focus on building yourself and your goals.
There was this movie I used to watch called, "I Think I Love My Wife" and Chris Rock's boss in the movie said, "You can lose a lot of money chasing women, but you'll never lose women chasing money"... and I found the video... lol
And that's true. Men spend so much time chasing women, that they lose themselves and their money in the process and it fucks them up. That's why I believe it's better to chase after your own goals and let women pursue you.
As a man, however, I do feel that a lot (NOT ALL) women feel entitled. Women get complimented all day long on social media, get follows because of their body and guys lusting over them. It gives them an inflated ego, and they start to think they deserve top notch men. I've seen it happen many times.
For example... on my Instagram, I have a female friend (that I know personally) who has over 50,000 twitter followers (a majority of them men). All she does is shake her booty and show off her body online, and she has a really inflate ego. On Instagram, she said, "so many men ask my why I'm single. It's because men are afraid of a girl with a nice body and a big ass". When she said that, I DM'ed her and put her in her place.
I had to tell her personally that men aren't intimidated by her body. Men avoid her because she acts like a hoe and it makes her look like she has nothing else to offer except a big butt and a smile.
Honestly... I think social media has really messed up the way people perceive themselves, their worth and their overall life.
I consider myself mgtow for exactly the same reason you women think men like us should be treated, "beat up". Awesome way to show men should trust you.
For the record, I am in a relationship and have been so for 20 years to a wonderful woman. I am MGTOW because we are not actually married and I refused to have kids.
Sandman was fun listening to in the beginning, now his nasaly squeeks piss me off.
I don't like labels, but I'd be fine if I never get involved with a woman. I've had a lot of shitty females in my life, and attracting a half decent one doesn't seem like it's worth the cost.
Let me guess... you have an issue with men who are sexist. The lack of self awareness SOME of you people (feminists) have is honestly just astonishing.
How is feminism one iota better? You're judging MGTOW by its worst members... should I judge feminism by its worst members?
Have you ever been evaluated for NPD?
Agreed
I need a relationship in my life, don't really wanna hook up forever, fuck that. While I want to go for high success in my life, I need someone to share it with.
But like others have said there is some truth to what these people say about women, whether you like it or not. You maybe too young to have observed it yourself, you may simply not have these traits (yet) but they are abundant enough to make an observation on. Humans are good and bad, don't forget that.
I not mtgow but threatening to ' beat them up' even if a joke isn't going to help you.
This post is kind of confusing as you threaten to beat them up but then relate with a mtgow member at the end.
Can you understand why mtgow exists? I can but in not one of them, neither am I against them because I can understand where they are coming from.
I'm not, but I think it's a good thing because it makes men realize that they don't need women. For example, some guys will search for a partner a long time and get rejected a lot and think he's ugly or something. Then he will become depressed. MGTOW just lets you know that you don't need women and that there are more important things in life. Oh, and side note I don't hate women so please don't accuse me of that
You're a woman, you can hardly understand or agree with them, you'll always side with women in the end.
I'm not one of them, but I understand them. Considering how were most the girls I've met, I could become one if I gave up.
Don't know if i'm too stupid, too nice or too much of a dreamer but I still haven't given up on girls yet.
I don't cry that often, so obviously being MGTOW is out for me.
I'd consider myself mgtow at this point in my life honestly relationships are to dangerous to be in. What with yes means yes #metoo and the literal criminalization of flirting on Nottingham shire England. And honestly there's no benifit to a relationship any more. If i want companionship i have friends if i need sex i have porn. And let's face everyone dies alone
I'm not a MGTOW, but I am sympathetic towards them. So BRING IT ON, BITCH!
I'll send my address in private if you want to challenge me. No guns, that's for pussies.
I am going to wreck you.
Beating is the language of people who are unable to fight with words. I won't go down on such a low level. I'm normally completely against violence, and I can't respect a man raising his hand against a girl. This equality is a thing... A complicated one... However neither her nor your way leads to an happy and.
@Leo3572
"Beating is the language of people who are unable to fight with words."
So poetic... buddy. She came here, and asked for a fight. You're welcome to follow youe judeo-christian values, and turn the other cheek - I believe that people have free will, and are responsible for their own lives. If she is enough of a dumbass toto challenge me to a physical confrontation - I won't stop her. Karma is an evil bitch.
"I won't go down on such a low level."
Suits me. But then don't complain about me taking a challeng, if you don't have the balls to defend your lady, oh my dear knight in shining armor.
"I can't respect a man raising his hand against a girl."
The last thing I need is your respect. And who said I'd raise my hands? I am more than capable of dealing with a woman without using my hands.
"This equality is a thing... A complicated one..."
The moment you realise I am actually right! LOL
A few. Most are harmless guys that have been treated bad by some bitch.
Why would they need to be beat up?
To answer the question though, I'm not a part of the group. I am not looking for a relationship but I feel no ill will towards women. I just don't need a romantic relationship to be happy. ☺
MGTOW preaches some truth but it’s mostly about perspectives from men who have a serious victim complex.
Not me. I am looking for a relationship, and I am not trying to avoid them.
I'm kinda like that; I've had bad relationships but my current girlfriend is really nice. I've got a thorny personality to begin with. That's just me, though.
mgtow's are like incels
mad at the world because they can't get a woman
same diff.
they are no different..
each can't get a woman, whether they want it or not
@grega239 MGTOW men hardly know women, some might have had relationships but if you listen to their stories, they intentionally choose bad women because they were desperate, I doubt they ever even experienced love. They stay in these long relationships with women who show horrible red flags and then gave up, claiming we're all alike.
exactly @azzntittiz
@grega239 I know future MGTOW guys as we speak, making all the wrong self sabotaging decisions to get them jaded enough to declare women an evil group of people. People will be people when they get the chance, it's not women, it;s the people they choose to date.
I am mad at men on some level, but it's for the same reason, too many men want to break you so he can fix you, but every man with a broken woman ends up complaining about her, even if he caused it. It;s a never ending cycle of games and confusion. None of my exes have a bad thing to say, but they did break me on purpose to turn me into the women MGTOW complain about. I really do wish to find men who aren't that way, because I don't have time for it.
"Its not women its ppl" and yet ur mad at men (plural). if not all women are like that then the same goes for men. true not all women are bitches but all women have the option of being complete bitches. like my ex for example. i paid rent and bought food. i remebered all the important dates (anniversaries her bd etc.) And so on, only to be told that i do nothing and that I'm too nice to her. explain to me how im not going to be distrustful of women bcs guess what, only a woman can, as you'd say, break me like that. furthermore if i complain about it im gonna get called a cry baby, while women can complain about it and get comforted.
MGTOW here. A man needs a woman like an African American needs the South in the 50s.
Funny... if this were a man talking about violence towards a subset of feminism, this thread would likely not be allowed to exist.
I'll give you a gold star for attempting to stir the post... but you didn't contribute anything beyond that
Im not, and I think its a very bad way to go.
Its true you need to have a strong opinion, and to love yourself and giving some value, but if you dont have in your mind what your pair needs, you are sold before starting.
Well I'm not a MGTOW but lets just say I am so you can beat me up.
I wouldn't call myself that, just like Leonardo DiCaprio doesn't call himself MGTOW. But some people would say that I am a MGTOW.
Im no MGTOW baby... but i definitely a DGHOW... Diesel Going His Own Way.
you need men... lol
you need us... we complete you 😛
I go my own way. Got no time or energy for tricks.
Better to focus on getting a well paid job than pointless relationships.
Good job, you literally just confirmed every single thing a mgtowner has ever said.
"Women can't be exposed as only acting nice when they want something, i must bash this guy!"
Oh you're one of them, where do you live so I can beat you up.
You're a weirdo, be gone.
You epitomize what's wrong with menkind.
I don't know that I consider myself mgtow but I do feel that today overall men and women are as close to equal as possible and mgtow makes good points about areas in life where men get screwed.
Certainly not me. I've probably had sex with more women than all MGTOW men will ever have time to hate
MGTOW? Not I. I would like a relationship. But I don't fancy my chances...
Perhaps I'm too young to know yet but I definitely think im leaning that way. If I were you, I'd watch colttaine, he's my favorite.
I fall in love with unavailable ladies. Very random circumstances. Does that count.
I am not, they do not want to belong in a group with losers
I would fit the description of a mgtow but would call myself that... fite meh
u Not for me! I LOVE women!
Not this guy! I love T&A way too much to want to cut girls out of my life!
I am a temporary MGTOW who is actually a patriarch and wants to strip women of all their rights. So I'm waiting for the right time to get married (acquire a woman)
Don't you have to have... you know... power? To be a patriarch?
oh good, I didn't expect to find someone educated here.
Yes you're right, I meant that I'm a supporter of patriarchy
Ah, cool. I mean, that's silly but at least you're honest.
"silly"? You feminists jump to insults at the drop of a hat.
Huh. Normally, people consider calling a person names, rather than an idea, to be an insult. This is something new to me. More research is necessary. You truly do possess the superior intelligence you think you do.
Now you've gone into abuse mode. Typical feminist.
You're using the English language incorrectly. Typical anti-Feminist.
I'm not bothered by your ad hominem attacks in the least. They only make my convictions stronger.
In the coming future we'll be the one's abusing you.
Oh damn, first English and now Latin. Man, you gotta learn what these words you're typing mean. It certainly isn't what you apparently think.
Good try, though. Remember: learning is a process. You'll get it one of these days. Keep it up, kiddo.
Mend your ways while you still have the chance, because when we take over we won't hesitate to kill feminazis like you.
I'd be happy if you were killed in the next terrorist attack tbh. People like you are the worst enemy
Dude you can't even rule a keyboard... what makes you think you could run a society?
What you don't realize is that ad hominem attacks like these only make things much worse for you feminists in the long run.
I would be happy to set you and your abusive, feminist family on fire. And it might just happen in the coming future!
You don't realize that what you think are ad hominem attacks aren't even close to being ad hominem attacks. I bet you just throw that term around whenever someone disagrees with you and then tell yourself you're being logical. It's a typical pseudo-intellectual move, so no biggie
Men who are MGTOW are pretty much Incels. Lol.
Quite the opposite. Incels' whole talking point is that they've been denied sex, whereas mgtow are intentionally avoiding it (albeit for other reasons.) I think the overlap between the groups is not as big as it might seem.
MGTOW is hilarious and sad at the same time
What's that MGTOW now again?
I'm not MGTOW but I'll defend them to my death
What in hell is mgtow and gag
I love women.
I'm a feminist
@Tdieseler Thank you
Whats mgtow
Never mind if you don't know what it is, actually that's a good thing since they're so awful.
Iam GTRDKL
What the hell is that?
what?
MGTOW, a woman hating movement. They call us evil bloodsuckers.
never heard of them :D
Nope.
What is mgtow
Pretty rude of you.
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