Do you think a guy going from nice to assshole after finding out a girl is trans demonstrate behavior of a nice guy?

[Anonymous]

A "nice guy" is often term a man who pretends to be nice to women to get into her pants. He will act like a gentleman for her but the moment she says she is unavailable or won't sleep with him goes from nice to complete asshole in no time flat.

[Exaggerated but gets the point across of so called nice guy]

So the issue a lot of men on gag say with regards to transgender woman is that they should reveal themselves as being trans one time. However, many on this site do not seem to realize the hostile waters that transwomen face and how many men are willing to attack/kill transwomen because they fear their sexuality being threaten. To me a transwomen revealing her status should only come into play if sex comes up and her choosing to bring up her status should be a choice before that happens. In same way that a woman who is HIV+ should not have to blurt out her status to random guys hitting on her right from the get go.

Now, many of these "nice" men on gag think it's ok to assualt, and be verbally abuse a transwoman that a male choose to flirt and approach of his own free will after finding out LATER that she is transgender. And therefore the offer of sex no longer being of interest to them and it being ok to go into complete asshole mode and even physically assault said person. Isn't this type of behavior on par with nice guys who go on to become complete assholes if you don't go for them

I'm not saying men need to date transwomen after finding out their trans but at least own up to your initial attraction for her and not go completely asshole because your sexual identity is threaten. Be respectful to people and just say your not interested in trans and leave.

YES

NO

[Anonymous]

lol this is the problem with the trans world. You expect the entire world to accommodate you. You decide to deviate from society you better expect to not be full accepted. If i was tricked by a trans it would piss me off to. It's NO different than if you dated a guy for a while maybe even slept with him only to find out he was dating a half a dozen other people. lets assume he had told you he loved you multiple times before you found out. You'd be pissed! Why though? He said he loved you. He never said he didn't love other people as well.
See what i'm saying if what you're claiming is ok what this guy did is ok, and i'm guessing you wouldn't agree with that.

[Benedek38]

Well, how would you react if a guy you were interested in turned out to be a female to male transgender? Wouldn't you feel betrayed?

[Asker]

Nope. I would understand that its a personal issue that not everyone wants to reveal from the get go to strangers and would tell them i no longer wish to pursue a relationship with them. Not the asshole route a lot of guys do when they don't get any pussy.

[Wonderer89]

It has nothing at all to do with whether he’s a nice guy. If he’s been led to believe he’s dating a female and is then told otherwise - particularly if there was any physical interaction - he doesn’t have to be nice. Lying about your biological gender in order to date someone who wouldn’t do so if they knew is wrong, there is hostility because it’s deception and while I understand it’s difficult for trans to find partners it’s not anyone else’s problem.
People shouldn’t have to put aside their preferences and date them just because it’s PC

[Asker]

Again this is not about going on dates. This is about men thinking that they should be told of a transwomoman status right away despite the fact that men tend to be very hostile toward transwomen just for being trans. Even on this site, men refer to them as "it" and subhuman and think that it is justified to assault them from the get go even though said man approach them and were pursuing them. Some even claim on here theat transwomen are frauding and think it's all make believe for them considering themselves a woman.

Transwomen will let a guy know that she is trans once she believe she can trust him. I mean would you give a random guy your number if you just met him? Would you reveal your status as being HIV+ to a guy you just met? So why should a transwoman from the get go have to reveal her status right away to some random guy that they just met? Just last month a report of a bodybuilder in las vegas assualting transwomen randomly occured.

[Asker]

Also let not act like men these days are upfront about their intention, many will want to hang out with you or text you for some time and then slowly build up to asking you out on a date.

[Wonderer89]

Oh please, as if a person can’t tell when it’s a general conversation vs a guy showing interest. Being upfront about their gender lessens the possibility of a bad reaction because there has been no investment. Once anything, even time has been invested it’s deceit, it’s wrong and it was a choice.
If a guy is hanging out with you and constantly texting - it’s time to tell them. Dating or being friends; being upfront and honest about part of their core being is what you do even if it is just friends.

[Asker]

Yes you can tell some times but context of this is that this is a stranger who you do not know. Why should this stranger who you do not know should be given personal information about you right from the start? As stated there are men who see their sexuality as threaten having liked/approach a transwoman and react violently. So why should transwomen be so forthcoming with information to strangers right from the start?

The discussion men make is that they should be given information right from the beginning to not waste time on said woman. I brought up similar analogy of woman being HIV+ in which said personal information should only come up if the person knows said person for some time or topic of having sex come up.

As stated previously as an example, there was literally a boduilder purposely targetting and assaulting transgender women in las vegas.

[Anonymous]

No. be upfront. you're really wasting someone's time if you hide something like that. the whole "killing you" argument isn't very good just based on the fact that the chance is substantially lower if you're up front about it. you aren't making them look stupid. that the whole point of the "killing" it's bc of anger of being deceived. it gets higher and higher the more you waste his time on something he isn't interested in being involved with.
first vid was hilarious though.

[Opinion Owner]

that 2nd video is also why i would never step foot in india.

[Asker]

So should a CIS woman disclose her status as HIV+ to any man that approaches her because otherwise she would be wasting that person time?

[Opinion Owner]

if you know there is a man pursuing you and you two have gone on dates, on the first or 2nd date, yes. you need to disclose sexual diseases and/or being trans.

[Asker]

Your changing context. This is not after meeting the person several times and then when topic of sex come up reveal you are trans. This is about men thinking that a transwoman should reveal right away (to a complete stranger) their trans status and then consider it deceit if you tell them later. Neglecting the fact that there are many men who will assault or hurt trans women that they approached because they though she had a pussy.

So what your advocating is this:

1. Tranwomen should disregard their safety for sake of CIS men not wasting their time.
2. It's ok for CIS men to react violently or verbally abuse if the prize (aka pussy) they are after is not obtainable from said person.

[Opinion Owner]

what, how am *i* changing context? you literally asked me about sexual transmitted diseases. you're a waste of time lol

[BeMuse]

Nope. If you try to con someone and they’re mean to you or you catch an ass beating for it, you should learn not to con people not make deluded rationalizations about those men… It’s just going to keep happening if you keep playing the same game. Go to gay bars or type that you are a tranny in your dating profile and then you’ll find other gay men like yourself that might be interested.

[The_Dean]

If I go for a girl, assuming she was born female and I find out that the person has/had a dick, I will drop them so fast. Make it known before any talk of sex happens so that straight men know to avoid trannies, unless it's their thing... which would technically make them gay...

[PcSucks]

Listen a trans and a girl is not anywhere near close to being the same thing and if you trick a guy into thinking you are a real girl and then he finds out you have a dick he has every right to not only be mad but to flip on you so don't sit here and act like you are a victim you are a sicko get mental help

[Anonymous]

The problem in that scenario is not the behavior of the guy who was deceived by the trans person. The problem is the deceitful trans person who was not upfront and honest in the first place.

Try being honest for a change, or you're just setting yourself up for people to be angry with you. And they have every reason to be angry with you.

[TripleAce]

They don’t go to asshole. They go to wtf cause he’s the nice guy but yet girls don’t value that much so it’s probably frustrating to the nice guy

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[Britguy100]

You would feel some disappointment as a guy I understand but it’s a move on and get over it situation, just look at it as a girl you liked has no interest just get over it and move on and don’t be nasty 🤢 that’s my motto 👌

[Sweatyotterr]

If i get lied to and decieved like that im gunna be pissed and someone is getting punched

[Anon-ymous1]

"[Exaggerated" Ohhhh so, you mean... fake?

So then why are you posting it as evidence of... something. When it's fake. This is dumb.

[name_is_eric]

That's any guy in his right mind.
Being angry after beind deceived is normal and to be expected.

[quickiecool]

We have male and female and just like that we have trans. I don't mind dating a tranny

[aa180]

Hahaha the first video 😂

[EDWINDUNDEE999]

Trans to blame pretends he is a chic