I don't actually see that ever if anything woman date down. I dont see attractive ass guys with unattractive woman what most hot men mean by unattractive but dateable is a fat pretty girl.
There a lot if you search them in google also a lot of them rather keep the relationship in private. Also attractiveness is subjective for your information. If i show you a picture of an unattractive girl dating a hot guy, that guy may not be hot but the girl may be attractive for you
Yeah i just looked it up and as suspected not a single ugly chick with hot guy only hot girls with only guys. Look up attractive guy and ugly girl and yeah not 1 ugly girl and handsome guy. Also yeah in real life not once have i ever seen an obviously ugly girl with a hot chick only way i see it if the guy is fucking that ugly chick. I mean shit anyone can look it up on google and it not 1 ugly chick with a handsome guy.
Because we don't just need to be handsome in order for us to be considered attractive. Also yeah you can see vice versa a lot in google because they're just addressed. You mean to say there are more women dating ugly guys addressed? Of course because we have something else in our standards
Pull up an imagie of an ugly girl with a handsome guy you can't because it doesn't happen lol. Some unattractive men are single because they refuse to date at their level because they do feel way too good and like they could do better.
Like what I said, That's not adressed that much. Do you want me to take pictures of strangers? And what part of "attractiveness is subjective" do you not understand? There are more standards women give to men not just looks that's why.
She's not even ugly she's litearlly just fat lets be real attractive fat people dont struggle dating either this ALSO applys with guys my ex was like 300 hundred obesss pounds but he had a face of a God and i still dated him so fat attractive people dont coumt find me a real ugly woman
Because it is subjective. I don't think she's ugly but compare her to that guy. There are people who think she's ugly, there are people who don't because we all judge things differently.
Im attractive enough to not be single right now or really ever. I've always been able to have a man even at my worst and i was still pretty cute so. Lol post the pic now doe i actually want an attractive guy i would actually go for in real life to change my mind. Other than that no im sorry I've never had any issues with dating.
"Im attractive enough to not be single right now" Cool but i have a different opinion sorry to say. Not just me but probably more people. I dont think he is refering to you but he's talking about feminists in general only with a typo. Nice braging your experiences without any evidence and you still think this is all about you. If you don't have any problems with dating then chances are you have the schemes just like how some guys having no problems with dating. Not assuming anything usually those people who don't have problems with dating specially those who always think about how good they are are the ones who play or gold dig as they don't care about their partners but only thinking about them being so "attractive" giving their partners problems not them. I would say that personality don't attract me or lots of people.
Aiko stop trying to talk me like you're a guy I'd actually go for you're not and please don't try and lie to yourself. You aren't even my type to be trying to talk down on me like I've said let a real attractive man I WOULD actually like talk down on my looks. I look good and i know that but i say that in the humblest way I'm definetly not the best but I'm definetly not gonna date guys who aren't cute at least. Even a big guy with a cute face has a chance with me only thing you have to be is cute and very smart :). Also no just stop you dont know me and you don't get to decide how i choose to date. I'm not playing anyone and im not a golddigger i dont date men for money or lie to them pretending to be something I'm not for their money. Stop trying to pin all this random ass bs on me tbh.
You don't want information? Fine. I can still give that information to anyone here. Ofcourse I don't know you that's why I'm not assuming anything. Just telling you the odds ok? And more like I don't know you so stop bringing your experiences because we doubt people we don't know so you stop lying to yourself.
It's just like you're gonna say you're attractive to anyone and you can tell all your experiences to anyone but if we don't think so, you're just gonna say we don't know you? We don't know you so of course we have the reason to doubt you. Why not? I can always base things on the empirical data proven.
I explained before. They don't "Deserve"; they "Want". They tried and failed. They lowered their standards, still nothing. What happens when you can't succeed? You complain. You go on a rant. Or isolate yourself from everyone and feel depressed.
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Because they're the ones who usually think they're the most entitled. They must have felt like they were entitled to any woman they wanted. Otherwise they wouldn't left me alone the first time I rejected them. I've had two ugly men that wouldn't leave me alone. Even after I told one of them I wasn't interested. Being persistant only works when you're trying to get a job, not a girlfriend. So if she tells you she isn't interested, move on, and leave her alone.
Because most people do deserve love and affection. Plus I see men wayyy less attractive than me who have girlfriends snd wives that are physically way out of the guys league, hypothetically speaking it is assumed they are.
This is not accurate plus size woman aren't complaining about dates. Plus size girls litearlly have men who specifically like them. They want in on the fashion industry they want to beauty icons now just fetishes. Although I dont agree with too much encouragment of being able to plus size that's bad for society.
No, they do, a lot. Fattitude. As for the specific guy that’s called a cuck. As in desperate scumbag. Actually come to think of it we found where the complainers go.
Fucking Right ? Like change and do something about it whatever you're doing clearly isn't working. Could be looks but could also be a major personaility fault which is what it falls down to in my opinion. Being ugly is forgiveable for a man as long as he's a genuinely nice man. No not fake incel nice guys who will call ypu a whore the minute they get angry at you lol.
I wouldn't settle wit an ugly guys because i dont have to. It pisses me off when ugly guys think they deserve girls like me or better just because it fits his fantasy ass vision of what a woman he deserves to be. You expect forgiveness for being ugly yet you dont want anyone ugly. If you are like that you don't deserve anything beautiful and thats probably why God made your ass ugly because he knew your heart since the start. You can't be ugly and think you deserve and think you dont deserve to be with an ugly person like come on now. You can end up with an attractive person as an ugly guy but 100% if your mindset like this you don't deserve it and yes you probably will never get it be cause its fucking stupid shallow.
@derek2017 Dude chill she’s a narcissist, don’t you analyse her language? NPD is at an epidemic rise and it’s not only just women, I’ve seen men who think they’re all hot and shit and make other people feel inferior to them. Stay away from toxic people. It’s bad for health. You can’t convince her that she’s an idiot, that’s what the disorder is.
Only mentaldisorders i have is anxiety and ADHD which is recent diagnosis. There's litearlly nothing narcistic about what i said and yes I'm VERY well informed on what narcism is and how it works. Saying that is shallow for an unattractive person to not choose to date another unattractive person because they feel like they themselves and than calling other people shallow for not choosing to look past the same flaw they can't is in no way having any type of inferiority complex. What i can say is if you are offended by what i said than i am NOT sorry because yes it is shallow and fucked up.
It doesn't make sense because. I have an actual therapist and i have actual diagnosis. I would apologize if i felt what i said was actually long or mean. I did say sorry when I felt I said something a bit too harsh o litearlly said sorry for it and anyone can read that. Also people with narcism disorder NEVER say sorry because they lack that empathy and if they ever do its because their forced or to put up a front. Also either ways like I said what i said isn't actually wrong.
You need an actual diagnosis of narcism to be a narcistic silly goose which I've already told you I'm not. All i have is anxiety and its highly narcistic of YOU to believe you're somehow gonna know more than my therapist who's licensed. Sorry thinking its shallow of someone to think their too good for an ugly person as an ugly person is not mean.
Im not buying it im not gonna give these kind of guys a pity party. How are you gonna be ugly and not want to date someone ugly because you feel somehow too special for that. Sike that's shallow asfk and needs to be called out and thats why most them lonely.
look here girly the thing is everyone likes whatever he likes, if a guy is ugly he suffers because he doesn't get any women and feels lonely and abandoned so dont act like you know how that is also like i said if a guy likes a pretty girl he's not just gonna settle with an ugly one and be sad for the rest of his life thats all!!!
Idc if a guy is ugly im talking about the specific ones im reffering to and he suffers because he wants to and is entitled to the idea he truly deserves a better looking woman. Also yes im very aware guys lile to drag along woman for 40+ years while they try and fimd their dream girl and i k ow they end up depressed when they realize thats the best they could do. Fuck guys who do that not only are they ugly but, their cowards instead of letting that woman go and telling her the truth he feels like he's entitled to drag her along and in the end he feels more sorrt for himself. Some men truly are disgusting like that and it is time it's called tf out.
I guess the men that simply find themselves unattractive need to see their beauty and that they were wonderfully made regardless of what others them. Taking care of yourself is the first priority
Being ugly sucks. Not only do you get shit on for trying to date, people also have this presumption about you. I should just get plastic surgery and turn sexy
Wait, so what about the unattractive guys that aren't lonely? Also it's not swallowing pride for those guys that understated their limits, it's using common sense and simple logic.
Yeah but when you say "all unattractive men" then you don't leave any room for doubt that you clumped all of those guys together, so why wouldn't we assume that you have a hate boner for all unattractive men in general? The fact that you don't understand that people dating within their league has nothing to do with swallowing their pride is both worrying and very funny.
No i didn't I made it clear this was not about all unattractive men since the start and because some unattractive men im assuming got their panties twisted in a knot at the word unattractive men
Again, still worrying and funny that you don't get it, you must really know some douchey ugly dudes for this to not have even occurred to you. Allow me to point something out, while yeah you did kind of clarify that you didn't mean all unattractive men; leading your argument with, LITERALLY in the first two sentences, the lines "amongst unattractive men" and "they all have one thing in common" will lead most people to assume you are yet another person that believes if a person isn't a 10/10 then they have no worth to you. Yeah the argument for reading until the end is a very valid one but, if you haven't noticed, most people on the internet don't really do that, that's why you see a lot of disclaimers written before the argument.
Wow, I never said that you were either, I implied that's how you come across, doesn't mean that's how you are in real life. Also looking through your other comments on this question, I can now see why you are this way; having a fat ugly dude, that doesn't get that he is fat and ugly, pay for your lifestyle and then act all shallow and stupid will make anybody jaded.
Well that's just calldd people jumping to their own conclusions and deciding things they shouldn't without any solid evidence. Also he's just fat and shallow not ugly also he was not my inspiration for this status doe i know he will eventually change he's really self aware its only a matter of time. Also my inspiration came from a guy on here who complains about not being able to gind attractive woman YET making no real efforts to change himself to actually be good enough. All he does is complain complain complain and thus my question was born now stop jumping to conclusions
Because guys are constantly hounded about unfair beauty standards meanwhile women can reject and shame unattractive men all they want, especially short men. The idea that a guy unfortunate enough to be below 5'9" has to settle for someone that can't control their diet is more unfair than any beauty standard is put upon women.
Attractiveness is somewhat subjective. The argument can be flipped as well. But how often does anyone settle for equal or less? In general we want better. Guys also have sex drives effecting their decision making not long term relationship goals.
Misread your first post. Thought you were complaining about the opposite because of the title and some wording. Almost the same answer, who wants to kiss or have sex with someone ugly? You want someone you are attracted to thats not a logical thought process its an immediate (s) he's hot or (s) he's not.
Yes but you dont have the same choices when you are unnattrcative and if you're aware of it than there should be no reason why you think someone should just feel sorry you were born ugly while you can't have that same forgiveness for someone else and have the nerve to end up lonely and complain about are the horrible shallow pretty woman whI never chose you.
dude just stop complaining get busy with your own life and you'll see that while you're busy with yourself and not paying any attention to girls they will come after you, you won't even have to do anything lol
😂😂😂😂bro take it easy. I am going to be an engineer with a job or a shop in just sometime, going to start a better life. life will find its way , if it loses its path then I am going to be more successful then ever ( not like a billionaire or something , more like peace and plenty)
Derek2017 girls think you're good in study and they can get free notes that's why they try to talk. Happened with me, trust me the note you gave them they are going to come back😂😂😂🤓🤓🤓🤓.
I'm trying to say thats a horrible idea lol if you can't get girls and you're unnatttactive you might be on the shy side or something about your personailty might not be matching up too good with girls but def try and talk more and be friendly tbh friendly guys who are cool do have a good chance at getting any girl endless she's shallow af
Both of you clam down. This is what makes distance between gender a real thing. Just let it be my life is on track, derek2017 go and study @Roxilicious just don't waste time on guys like us, find something better to talk on
I dont see ugly girls complain guys won't date them really ever if im honest I just see a lot complain guys ghost them or something which more than normally isn't even done by am attractive guy and its normally because unattractive guys think they're gonna end up with a beautiful woman if their just nice enough to them than maybe she'll see he's such a good guy
That is your experience then but that doesn't really make it everyone's experience so think about it before you generalize. By the way aren't girls especially those who look like emo or punks with bright colored hair the making videos about how shallow men are because the only preferred good looking girls? Take fat acceptance for example. They make videos shaming men because of the idea that men prefer skinny women so that's why being fat makes them a feminist not the other way around. I don't know not all of them are fat but most of them are. Again what you experienced doesn't really change the statistical average and empirical data society.
Okay and incels exsist whats your point? And it makes sense because men always think their better than those woman regardless of how low he truly is. Men tend to think their better than woman for about the same things its just the way it is I mean seriously. Like even down to the way men have sex they can fuck a "slut" normally a womab with more than 3 bodies and they can hage like 11+ on them and still have superiority over that. Turn around and believe they deserve a woman with no bodys or one men are just weirdly entitled to me.
I never said incels don't exist. My point is that applies for both genders. When did i even say that men are better? I said nothing of the sort but you took it that way. As for you asking questions like generalizing men, i give you examples about what feminists do and that's crossing the line that got you to think that i'm saying men are better? I did not say that. I said "same reason why unattractive women do"
Did i day you or men as in those who complain about attractive woman wanting them but also not ever trying to date any unattractive in their league type woman?
Or to make it clear, you are talking about unattractive men not talking about me so i am talking about unattractive women not talking about you. Postscript, if you're going to say not all unattractive women are like that, then that would make you a hypocrite if you don't like it if i just point out that you are generalizing unattractive men.
Can you read the title of your question? I did not even accuse you saying all but the you generalizing still stands. "why do unattractive men complain" as in in general yeah? I just did exactly what you did. what is the problem?
You said in generalizing unnatractive men which i am NOT. I'm talkimg about specific unattractive men who bitch about not having no one yet refuse to date girls in their league.
"Why do unattractive men complain?" That title says enough tho. It's just like saying black people are shit but all of them are. And I didn't see the word "specific unattractive men" in your title.
No feelings were hurt here. Why can't I just point out about your title? Unless you're hurt because I pointed out about the title. In fact your title still stands
So what if I make a mytake saying women are bs as a title then start saying things like not all of them are in the rest. I bet many women will complain about being offensive. So it's like it's ok for you to generalize unattractive men because you can always change the story in the details but when I point that out, I'm silly now huh? You're the point of double standards.
No i hate when specific ugly men complain about not being able to specifically get attractive woman they THINk they deserve. Idc about ugly guys being ugly complaining about thay shit but i have a problem when they also feel too good for an ugly girl like no -,-.
I don't care if this is offensive wtf lol it is shallow of these guys to not want to date in their own league yet bitch about how they can't get attractive girls sorry thats dumb to me.
I mean care to explain how im shallow without just basically it being i hurt your feelings for calling someone out for being a hypocrite. Once you can find me one line in there and quoted please I'll apologize 😆.
i never said that you were shallow, so don't feel attacked and defensif, i said ugly women can be as shallow and judgmental as ugly men (your topic question is attacking shallow ugly men after all...), and you are hypocritical because you can't admit that ugly girls do that too. if you need a "quote" your conversation with users hellacray, Aiko_E_Lara and CT_CD
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Why do so many mediocre looking women have such high standards?
I don't actually see that ever if anything woman date down. I dont see attractive ass guys with unattractive woman what most hot men mean by unattractive but dateable is a fat pretty girl.
CT_CD dropped that truth bomb
@Roxilicious why do you always base on your experience? That doesn't change anything you know. Your experience is not what everyone else experienced.
I mean show me a guy who has dated down Nd not just some cute plus size chick.
There a lot if you search them in google also a lot of them rather keep the relationship in private. Also attractiveness is subjective for your information. If i show you a picture of an unattractive girl dating a hot guy, that guy may not be hot but the girl may be attractive for you
Another source if this counts but i see them in real life just like how you are basing things on your experience
Yeah i just looked it up and as suspected not a single ugly chick with hot guy only hot girls with only guys. Look up attractive guy and ugly girl and yeah not 1 ugly girl and handsome guy. Also yeah in real life not once have i ever seen an obviously ugly girl with a hot chick only way i see it if the guy is fucking that ugly chick. I mean shit anyone can look it up on google and it not 1 ugly chick with a handsome guy.
Because we don't just need to be handsome in order for us to be considered attractive. Also yeah you can see vice versa a lot in google because they're just addressed. You mean to say there are more women dating ugly guys addressed? Of course because we have something else in our standards
You don't hear a guy saying "I'm not gonna date you just because you're beautiful" but the other way right?
Pull up an imagie of an ugly girl with a handsome guy you can't because it doesn't happen lol. Some unattractive men are single because they refuse to date at their level because they do feel way too good and like they could do better.
Like what I said, That's not adressed that much. Do you want me to take pictures of strangers? And what part of "attractiveness is subjective" do you not understand? There are more standards women give to men not just looks that's why.
You don't see a guy dating rich, dominant and capable of risking their lives that often.
And to be honest, I don't even find those girls in the picture attractive.
And here's that picture you're looking for. I saw it from an incel or MGTOW here who blocked me long ago. I'm not siding with him tho just the pic
She's not even ugly she's litearlly just fat lets be real attractive fat people dont struggle dating either this ALSO applys with guys my ex was like 300 hundred obesss pounds but he had a face of a God and i still dated him so fat attractive people dont coumt find me a real ugly woman
Because it is subjective. I don't think she's ugly but compare her to that guy. There are people who think she's ugly, there are people who don't because we all judge things differently.
And we do get comments like "I'm not gonna date you just because you're good looking" So? Because being good looking don't always mean attractive.
And according to me, those girls dating "ugly" guys aren't even attractive. I find them common. Here's why fatness is objectively bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjE2p1xmrNA&t=643s
And here is why you think average women are attractive but average men aren't. You know the saying women are special but men are generic? tvtropes.org/.../MenAreGenericWomenAreSpecial And this as well en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_are_wonderful_effect making you biased and also makes average women "attractive".
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i always see thisin feminists, being ugly and complaining for not getting any D
Im attractive enough to not be single right now or really ever. I've always been able to have a man even at my worst and i was still pretty cute so. Lol post the pic now doe i actually want an attractive guy i would actually go for in real life to change my mind. Other than that no im sorry I've never had any issues with dating.
"Im attractive enough to not be single right now" Cool but i have a different opinion sorry to say. Not just me but probably more people. I dont think he is refering to you but he's talking about feminists in general only with a typo. Nice braging your experiences without any evidence and you still think this is all about you. If you don't have any problems with dating then chances are you have the schemes just like how some guys having no problems with dating. Not assuming anything usually those people who don't have problems with dating specially those who always think about how good they are are the ones who play or gold dig as they don't care about their partners but only thinking about them being so "attractive" giving their partners problems not them. I would say that personality don't attract me or lots of people.
Aiko stop trying to talk me like you're a guy I'd actually go for you're not and please don't try and lie to yourself. You aren't even my type to be trying to talk down on me like I've said let a real attractive man I WOULD actually like talk down on my looks. I look good and i know that but i say that in the humblest way I'm definetly not the best but I'm definetly not gonna date guys who aren't cute at least. Even a big guy with a cute face has a chance with me only thing you have to be is cute and very smart :). Also no just stop you dont know me and you don't get to decide how i choose to date. I'm not playing anyone and im not a golddigger i dont date men for money or lie to them pretending to be something I'm not for their money. Stop trying to pin all this random ass bs on me tbh.
You don't want information? Fine. I can still give that information to anyone here. Ofcourse I don't know you that's why I'm not assuming anything. Just telling you the odds ok? And more like I don't know you so stop bringing your experiences because we doubt people we don't know so you stop lying to yourself.
Yeah you're not playing on anyone. As the info I gave wasn't really pointed directly to you.
It's just like you're gonna say you're attractive to anyone and you can tell all your experiences to anyone but if we don't think so, you're just gonna say we don't know you? We don't know you so of course we have the reason to doubt you. Why not? I can always base things on the empirical data proven.
I explained before. They don't "Deserve"; they "Want". They tried and failed. They lowered their standards, still nothing. What happens when you can't succeed? You complain. You go on a rant. Or isolate yourself from everyone and feel depressed.
Because they're the ones who usually think they're the most entitled. They must have felt like they were entitled to any woman they wanted. Otherwise they wouldn't left me alone the first time I rejected them. I've had two ugly men that wouldn't leave me alone. Even after I told one of them I wasn't interested. Being persistant only works when you're trying to get a job, not a girlfriend. So if she tells you she isn't interested, move on, and leave her alone.
Can we just accept the fact that both women and men suck, and we're doomed as a species. End of debate.
Women are a bit worse though.
Because most people do deserve love and affection. Plus I see men wayyy less attractive than me who have girlfriends snd wives that are physically way out of the guys league, hypothetically speaking it is assumed they are.
For the same reason “plus sized” women do, they refuse to fix themselves and expect the world to change for them
This is not accurate plus size woman aren't complaining about dates. Plus size girls litearlly have men who specifically like them. They want in on the fashion industry they want to beauty icons now just fetishes. Although I dont agree with too much encouragment of being able to plus size that's bad for society.
No, they do, a lot. Fattitude. As for the specific guy that’s called a cuck. As in desperate scumbag. Actually come to think of it we found where the complainers go.
Imagine saying that we're not attracted to fat women in this society. We would get slapped.
However, it's okay for women to not be attracted to fat men.
so damn true. then they complain theyre "cursed", its "fate". lmaoo grow up
Fucking Right ? Like change and do something about it whatever you're doing clearly isn't working. Could be looks but could also be a major personaility fault which is what it falls down to in my opinion. Being ugly is forgiveable for a man as long as he's a genuinely nice man. No not fake incel nice guys who will call ypu a whore the minute they get angry at you lol.
exactly!!! looks is not be all end all. omg they need to learn how to self reflect.
dude its all about who he likes!! he's not gonna be sad for the rest of his life for settling with an ugly girl!! would you wanna do that?
I wouldn't settle wit an ugly guys because i dont have to. It pisses me off when ugly guys think they deserve girls like me or better just because it fits his fantasy ass vision of what a woman he deserves to be. You expect forgiveness for being ugly yet you dont want anyone ugly. If you are like that you don't deserve anything beautiful and thats probably why God made your ass ugly because he knew your heart since the start. You can't be ugly and think you deserve and think you dont deserve to be with an ugly person like come on now. You can end up with an attractive person as an ugly guy but 100% if your mindset like this you don't deserve it and yes you probably will never get it be cause its fucking stupid shallow.
With* and also i didn't mean the first part so harshly i just realized how mean that sounded
im not ugly though...
I wasn't reffering to you
oh sorry...
@derek2017 Dude chill she’s a narcissist, don’t you analyse her language? NPD is at an epidemic rise and it’s not only just women, I’ve seen men who think they’re all hot and shit and make other people feel inferior to them. Stay away from toxic people. It’s bad for health. You can’t convince her that she’s an idiot, that’s what the disorder is.
Only mentaldisorders i have is anxiety and ADHD which is recent diagnosis. There's litearlly nothing narcistic about what i said and yes I'm VERY well informed on what narcism is and how it works. Saying that is shallow for an unattractive person to not choose to date another unattractive person because they feel like they themselves and than calling other people shallow for not choosing to look past the same flaw they can't is in no way having any type of inferiority complex. What i can say is if you are offended by what i said than i am NOT sorry because yes it is shallow and fucked up.
@SaintRaghu lmao!! you're right man!!
Who’s even gonna read all of that, it’s of no use to me.
@derek2017 Do some research, she’s a typical narcissist. And don’t reply to this nonsense.
It doesn't make sense because. I have an actual therapist and i have actual diagnosis. I would apologize if i felt what i said was actually long or mean. I did say sorry when I felt I said something a bit too harsh o litearlly said sorry for it and anyone can read that. Also people with narcism disorder NEVER say sorry because they lack that empathy and if they ever do its because their forced or to put up a front. Also either ways like I said what i said isn't actually wrong.
So if it has no use to you you're not gonna read it? But, im narcistic Hmm very very intersting
You need an actual diagnosis of narcism to be a narcistic silly goose which I've already told you I'm not. All i have is anxiety and its highly narcistic of YOU to believe you're somehow gonna know more than my therapist who's licensed. Sorry thinking its shallow of someone to think their too good for an ugly person as an ugly person is not mean.
Bless you🙏🏻
Well they could have mental illness (es), but then again women are notoriously cruel to men who suffer
Im not buying it im not gonna give these kind of guys a pity party. How are you gonna be ugly and not want to date someone ugly because you feel somehow too special for that. Sike that's shallow asfk and needs to be called out and thats why most them lonely.
You seem to know a lot about a person's inner psyche and struggle...
How is it a struggle to not be able to date people out of your league but also not want anyone in yours?
look here girly the thing is everyone likes whatever he likes, if a guy is ugly he suffers because he doesn't get any women and feels lonely and abandoned so dont act like you know how that is also like i said if a guy likes a pretty girl he's not just gonna settle with an ugly one and be sad for the rest of his life thats all!!!
Idc if a guy is ugly im talking about the specific ones im reffering to and he suffers because he wants to and is entitled to the idea he truly deserves a better looking woman. Also yes im very aware guys lile to drag along woman for 40+ years while they try and fimd their dream girl and i k ow they end up depressed when they realize thats the best they could do. Fuck guys who do that not only are they ugly but, their cowards instead of letting that woman go and telling her the truth he feels like he's entitled to drag her along and in the end he feels more sorrt for himself. Some men truly are disgusting like that and it is time it's called tf out.
I guess the men that simply find themselves unattractive need to see their beauty and that they were wonderfully made regardless of what others them. Taking care of yourself is the first priority
and getting money and having a goal in life are also pretty big priorities!! we ain't have time for girls!
Being ugly sucks. Not only do you get shit on for trying to date, people also have this presumption about you. I should just get plastic surgery and turn sexy
If that's you in the profile picture, you're not ugly, just average. You are still able to attract women.
Yea I agree with the guy u ain't that bad you'll find someone
I get what you are saying but this post is super negative 😓
This is all false because the men you find unattractive are attractive to other girls.
Everyone has their own preference.
Wait, so what about the unattractive guys that aren't lonely? Also it's not swallowing pride for those guys that understated their limits, it's using common sense and simple logic.
Well than they have nothing to do with what I was reffering to why woild they? Also wait what?
Yeah but when you say "all unattractive men" then you don't leave any room for doubt that you clumped all of those guys together, so why wouldn't we assume that you have a hate boner for all unattractive men in general? The fact that you don't understand that people dating within their league has nothing to do with swallowing their pride is both worrying and very funny.
No i didn't I made it clear this was not about all unattractive men since the start and because some unattractive men im assuming got their panties twisted in a knot at the word unattractive men
And what? That last part doesn't even make sense.
Again, still worrying and funny that you don't get it, you must really know some douchey ugly dudes for this to not have even occurred to you.
Allow me to point something out, while yeah you did kind of clarify that you didn't mean all unattractive men; leading your argument with, LITERALLY in the first two sentences, the lines "amongst unattractive men" and "they all have one thing in common" will lead most people to assume you are yet another person that believes if a person isn't a 10/10 then they have no worth to you. Yeah the argument for reading until the end is a very valid one but, if you haven't noticed, most people on the internet don't really do that, that's why you see a lot of disclaimers written before the argument.
I never typed i feel better than ugly people and would not date them in any shape way or form try again
Wow, I never said that you were either, I implied that's how you come across, doesn't mean that's how you are in real life. Also looking through your other comments on this question, I can now see why you are this way; having a fat ugly dude, that doesn't get that he is fat and ugly, pay for your lifestyle and then act all shallow and stupid will make anybody jaded.
Well that's just calldd people jumping to their own conclusions and deciding things they shouldn't without any solid evidence. Also he's just fat and shallow not ugly also he was not my inspiration for this status doe i know he will eventually change he's really self aware its only a matter of time. Also my inspiration came from a guy on here who complains about not being able to gind attractive woman YET making no real efforts to change himself to actually be good enough. All he does is complain complain complain and thus my question was born now stop jumping to conclusions
He doesn't doe he's really superficial and believes he deserves the best - doesn't sound like someone that's all that aware to me
This isn't about my Sugardaddy just stop
The siren song of the failing argument
you litearlly are trying to talk about something that has to nothing to do with what i said
Because guys are constantly hounded about unfair beauty standards meanwhile women can reject and shame unattractive men all they want, especially short men. The idea that a guy unfortunate enough to be below 5'9" has to settle for someone that can't control their diet is more unfair than any beauty standard is put upon women.
Attractiveness is somewhat subjective. The argument can be flipped as well. But how often does anyone settle for equal or less? In general we want better. Guys also have sex drives effecting their decision making not long term relationship goals.
Thats men you can look up attractive woman with ugly men and there's a ton of photos yet unnatractive woman with good looking men just doesn't pop up
Misread your first post. Thought you were complaining about the opposite because of the title and some wording. Almost the same answer, who wants to kiss or have sex with someone ugly? You want someone you are attracted to thats not a logical thought process its an immediate (s) he's hot or (s) he's not.
Girls can and do reject guys its up to them.
Yes but you dont have the same choices when you are unnattrcative and if you're aware of it than there should be no reason why you think someone should just feel sorry you were born ugly while you can't have that same forgiveness for someone else and have the nerve to end up lonely and complain about are the horrible shallow pretty woman whI never chose you.
wait have the nerve to end up alone? wtf does that mean? lol
Yup we complain a lot, cause of jealousy and not getting anything. (Atleast I am complaining everyday)
dude just stop complaining get busy with your own life and you'll see that while you're busy with yourself and not paying any attention to girls they will come after you, you won't even have to do anything lol
So for him to get girls all he has to do is not talk to them as an already struggling man in the dating world?
I'm going to take your single yourself and don't actually even have girls who talk to you.
😂😂😂😂bro take it easy. I am going to be an engineer with a job or a shop in just sometime, going to start a better life. life will find its way , if it loses its path then I am going to be more successful then ever ( not like a billionaire or something , more like peace and plenty)
And roxilicious I don't get you , what are you trying to say
no i have girls that talk to me but i dont talk to girls anymore because im busy with my studies
Derek2017 girls think you're good in study and they can get free notes that's why they try to talk.
Happened with me, trust me the note you gave them they are going to come back😂😂😂🤓🤓🤓🤓.
I'm trying to say thats a horrible idea lol if you can't get girls and you're unnatttactive you might be on the shy side or something about your personailty might not be matching up too good with girls but def try and talk more and be friendly tbh friendly guys who are cool do have a good chance at getting any girl endless she's shallow af
you talking to me? @Roxilicious
Both of you clam down.
This is what makes distance between gender a real thing. Just let it be my life is on track, derek2017 go and study
@Roxilicious just don't waste time on guys like us, find something better to talk on
Same reason why unattractive women complain.
I dont see ugly girls complain guys won't date them really ever if im honest I just see a lot complain guys ghost them or something which more than normally isn't even done by am attractive guy and its normally because unattractive guys think they're gonna end up with a beautiful woman if their just nice enough to them than maybe she'll see he's such a good guy
That is your experience then but that doesn't really make it everyone's experience so think about it before you generalize. By the way aren't girls especially those who look like emo or punks with bright colored hair the making videos about how shallow men are because the only preferred good looking girls? Take fat acceptance for example. They make videos shaming men because of the idea that men prefer skinny women so that's why being fat makes them a feminist not the other way around. I don't know not all of them are fat but most of them are. Again what you experienced doesn't really change the statistical average and empirical data society.
Okay and incels exsist whats your point? And it makes sense because men always think their better than those woman regardless of how low he truly is. Men tend to think their better than woman for about the same things its just the way it is I mean seriously. Like even down to the way men have sex they can fuck a "slut" normally a womab with more than 3 bodies and they can hage like 11+ on them and still have superiority over that. Turn around and believe they deserve a woman with no bodys or one men are just weirdly entitled to me.
And not all but those who fit
I never said incels don't exist. My point is that applies for both genders. When did i even say that men are better? I said nothing of the sort but you took it that way. As for you asking questions like generalizing men, i give you examples about what feminists do and that's crossing the line that got you to think that i'm saying men are better? I did not say that. I said "same reason why unattractive women do"
So before you get all recreational about what i said, rephrase what i said in the first place.
Did i day you or men as in those who complain about attractive woman wanting them but also not ever trying to date any unattractive in their league type woman?
I'm well aware the topic is about unattractive men therefore i give unattractive women as an example. What's the problem?
Or to make it clear, you are talking about unattractive men not talking about me so i am talking about unattractive women not talking about you. Postscript, if you're going to say not all unattractive women are like that, then that would make you a hypocrite if you don't like it if i just point out that you are generalizing unattractive men.
I never said ALL unattractive men i meant the ones who specifically do what i was reffering to.
Can you read the title of your question? I did not even accuse you saying all but the you generalizing still stands. "why do unattractive men complain" as in in general yeah? I just did exactly what you did. what is the problem?
Now you're just going to say that those who you are referring to. You just going to contradict everything at the end aren't you?
You said in generalizing unnatractive men which i am NOT. I'm talkimg about specific unattractive men who bitch about not having no one yet refuse to date girls in their league.
Contradict? No i meant what i mean the specifc unattractive men who do that my question since the beginning made rhat clear.
"Why do unattractive men complain?" That title says enough tho. It's just like saying black people are shit but all of them are. And I didn't see the word "specific unattractive men" in your title.
You can say you are "not" but action speaks louder than words.
My title was just a title? If you read it everything else is clarified just stop for whatever reason what I said must have hurt your feelings.
No feelings were hurt here. Why can't I just point out about your title? Unless you're hurt because I pointed out about the title. In fact your title still stands
Lol at this point you just seem silly
You feel it's silly. No matter if you don't like it, facts don't care about your feelings.
So what if I make a mytake saying women are bs as a title then start saying things like not all of them are in the rest. I bet many women will complain about being offensive. So it's like it's ok for you to generalize unattractive men because you can always change the story in the details but when I point that out, I'm silly now huh? You're the point of double standards.
Because you alway see famous ugly guys with hot women so why should regular ugly guys settle for someone nasty
They live a pretty difficult life man just let them be lol.
They really can't let us be. Women are very, very cruel to ugly guys.
No i hate when specific ugly men complain about not being able to specifically get attractive woman they THINk they deserve. Idc about ugly guys being ugly complaining about thay shit but i have a problem when they also feel too good for an ugly girl like no -,-.
You must be ugly too then, seeing as you're complaining
Okay and how exacy would that make sense
If you don't understand what you're even saying then don't say it.
Also all of what you wrote is to total rubbish. The exact opposite is what actually happens
Na she isn't ugly she is amazing
@Triple7s personality wise she is. white knighting won't help, read how she interact with other men tryin to say that ugly women can be as shallow
I don't care if this is offensive wtf lol it is shallow of these guys to not want to date in their own league yet bitch about how they can't get attractive girls sorry thats dumb to me.
Lol the irony xD
There's nothing ironic about it
ignorance is a blessing i guess :D
I mean care to explain how im shallow without just basically it being i hurt your feelings for calling someone out for being a hypocrite. Once you can find me one line in there and quoted please I'll apologize 😆.
i never said that you were shallow, so don't feel attacked and defensif, i said ugly women can be as shallow and judgmental as ugly men (your topic question is attacking shallow ugly men after all...), and you are hypocritical because you can't admit that ugly girls do that too. if you need a "quote" your conversation with users hellacray, Aiko_E_Lara and CT_CD