Okay so one thing I've notcied amongst unattravtive men for whatever reason it may be. They all have 1 thing I'm common contributing to their "unfortunate" loneliness they always want to believe they not only should be with a good looking woman but DESERVE it. A woman who is on the same end of the spectrum as them would be considered too low for some of these guys. Yet they complain good looking woman don't want them and their so shallow and mean and complain how unfair it is. I don't understand at all why is a girl whos not deemed as pretty not good enough for you yet you want to harass someone whos way out of your league because their shallow? This Will never makes sense to me honestly and i always see girls settling for whatever they can get and i rarely see guys do it ever I really dont see less attractive woman with a better looking man ever. Yet let a woman not date that ugly man and say it publicly its because he's unatttactive or too big and she'll be seen as a demon to society. This is just my personaly opinion and how i view things keep that in mind and I am not deeming this as ALL ugly men js i know some do swallow their pride.
Why do unattractive men think they 'deserve' a good looking woman?
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Okay well i also know God supposedly gave me free will to have my own conscious so that pretty much means God allowed me to be who I am. Yes i do think you sound stupid and wtf.. Lmao dude are you okay? And the world buddy jesus doesn't even exsist.. Lol
You are somewhat right, but women do this as well. But yeah I think it's more common for men. And I think it's because of their standards; which is for a girl to be pretty. It seems like that's their only standard and they only go for girls they find physically attractive. So it's no wonder they get rejected so often, and some don't realize why they are constantly rejected so they blame those women and label them as shallow. While women have wider range of standards in my opinion; we are not THAT woo'd with men's looks. I see women rejecting or dumping hot guys in a heartbeat when they treat them bad, and women actually grow resentment and become skeptical of hot guys (because of getting burned). While men would keep licking hot girl's ass and do anything just to stay with her because she's pretty. And we she breaks their heart they just go for another pretty girl. They don't learn anything. Men don't consider starting approaching not so good looking women after so many failures with good looking women, they just either continue pursuing hot girls or become resentful towards all females on the planet. I don't know, I see more girls settling with ugly guys then vice versa. And I can somewhat understand why guys keep chasing pretty girls (because they visual creatures), but when will they (actually both sexes) realize that the root of all evil is good looks? Extremely good looking people are assholes 9/10 times. I got burned so many times by these good looking men that I completely started filtering them out. I can't remember when was the last time I liked a good looking guy just because he's good looking. Most of the guys I rejected were these hot guys. I'm not saying I rejected because they are good looking, but honestly I am way more cautious when it comes to them then with average or bellow average guys. An extremely good looking guy would have to impress me and prove his personality worth to me way harder then other guys. So far I haven't been impressed or proven wrong by any hot guy, they are just stupid assholes who use their looks as the only means for success at anything. 0 brain cells and 0 personality. I honestly pity them. My point is that men should also double check their lust for beauty and not be so stupidly charmed by it. I know so many "ugly" or bellow average girls (and no I'm not talking about being fat) who are never approached or are constantly rejected by UGLY guys. Because those same guys are chasing pretty girls who keep ruining their lives. And it's just so sad.
Exactly how men think^ yet they call us shallow if we dare say we want a tall guy or somethink LMFAOO think about thay for a moment x) guys walk around wanting us to feel sorry for them when they do the same shit to us but they always want to make what they do seem higher and for a better purpose x)
@Stephen3355 I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm saying you should stop pursuing those pretty bitches that are obviously not into you. Nothing wrong with approaching once, but if you get rejected or lead on or played or etc. you should freaking walk away and never look back. All I see is bunch of guys chasing after these barbies and not giving up. It's so fucking sad and pathetic. If you really can't lower your physical standards, then accept that you will probably be alone for the rest of your life, and don't you dare blaming them for that!
The difference is most men only want 2 things in a woman: decent looks, and respect. However, women usually have a long list of standards that men must meet. So yer, women are way more shallow than men.
Well guys who are uglt and have that same stupid mentality are single and thats why lmao you think ypu deserve the best when you are litearlly not even what you're asking for. Understand attractive females already have choices and just like YOU woman want a decent lookimg person who respects them. there's litearlly 0 reasons woman who are attractive to just feel sorry for shallow unattractive men because they feel like they deserve them. Why when theirs billions of hot nice guys as well? Do you really think only ugly guys are the nice guys who know how to treat woman? Do you really believe every hot man is just the bad choice all the time becauae he's gonna treat her like shit right? Because hot men are the players and the ones who treat all the woman bad right? 😂. No I'm sorry reality is hot guys can be nice men too and girls are gonna obviously pick them first. As an unattractive Guy you just dont get those same privellages endless for some reason your personaility is magnificent and you brought that woman to knees with it. However i doubt a man whos unattractive and thinks he's too good for unattractive woman is all that a "good guy". he's not only shallow he's also hypocritical and throw ugly on top of that all i gotta say is YIKES your best bet is an unattractive girl whos willing to put up with a bit of a bad personaility.
While I agree with you... it's pretty hypocritical... and I dont get it... my theory is that for those men.. it's their ONLY standard (she doesn't have to be a good person, smart, earn money etc). .. Looks are almost never a womans only standard... so maybe there is a balsve there? 🤷♀️
Fucking exactly! Like it fould be a perfectly good woman. Shit probably more subtabcial than any beautiful woman and yet she'll be pissed on my virtually any man even the ugly ones just because that woman is not the beauty pageant queen they thought they'd end up. I feel lile this is a lot of mens problem in general they always want better. I love how they tried to flip it on us and say it's us but, you know what it's not. Also statistically speaking we aren't even the ones who cheat more often and im over it tbh.
Yeah.. I dont get the focus on beauty tbh. I was an ugly duckling in highschool .. then changed in varsity and I was shocked at the difference in treatment from men i got (I was still the same person). Its kinda sad.. but guess that's the way the world works. Also I am genuinely starting to believe most men are wired differently... and they almost cannot help reacting to looks...
@Stephen3355 when did I say they didnt? I'm not saying either gender adheres to the standards.. I'm saying the standards have historically been different? As for the biological differences- I dont think men can claim to either. That's the whole point of engaging this way... to try and see it from the other genders point of view.
Yer it's bullshit. Any brain dead monkey can cherry pick whatever statistics they choose. Women cheat just as much as what men do, no matter how much you want to deny it.
I think men just want to be able to say we do even doe its just not true. Also lets not forget men are seen differently as well for the same behaviors as woman. A man who can get woman and sleeps with many woman is a player and thats usually seen as a good thing by men he's so "badass" cuz he's so great with woman. Woman sleep with a lot of men and we get dragged and calles whores for it and it won't make it the coolest bitch on the block who knows the most about men. Do you seriously think men wouldn't cheat more often than woman when its litearlly A LOT MORE SOCIALLLY acceptable to do. A lot of guys litearlly draf along woman cheat on them and than turn around and say "well im not a cheater but she's not the right one if i was with the right when than I would calm". Not once in my life have a heard of woman just casually cheating on someone because their not the right ones. If you look at marriage and whos the one calling the wedding off first more than often of the time it is woman. You know why because, a lot of woman SPECIFICALLY from this era are putting up with less and less. If woman were the real cheaters breakup their family or that was actually even. I'm 100% what was socially acceptable would be. A lot different and men and woman woild be calling for differces more often and im sure all this just like now would have statistics to show. Im sure if it was actually even you'd see that in society don't forget cardi B makes music for woman that if a man would be rapping and instead rapping about bitches not guys you know it would be normalized and no one would try and call him out ever for talking about fucking hoes in specific. Tell me when there was backlash because a man talked about sex on his song. Pleaee dont try and sit up here and say woman are just as much of cheaters as men when it isn't even socially acceptable for us to even have sex as often as men or even like one.
Women do cheat as much as men, I just think women are better at hiding it. What I've seen over many years is that women do cheat just as much as men. Many women even lie about who the father of their baby is. And yes, a man who sleeps around will get called a player, but that's because it's usually a lot harder for a man to get sex. Most women can get sex very easily, but it's usually a lot harder for a man. And yes, women do divorce more than men. Of course they do, because the divorce laws tend to favour women and very often women divorce the good men and run off with the bad men. Women today are very manipulative and deceitful. I know a woman who admitted a few years ago that almost ALL of her female friends who are married have cheated on their husbands. She said that women pretend to be these genuine faithful people, but it's all a front. Based on what I've seen and researched over many years, women cheat just as much as men.
No we don't just magically somehow cheat better than men. That is literally a lie men use to comfort themselves and feel less guilty. You want to pin cheating and all the same things on us as well. Even doe we aren't even treated the same socially at thr end of the day 😆. We dont get to be cool for being whores not ever not even today when its getting more socially acceptable. Also okay and still not as often as you'd like to believe. Also shut up no its just because men have HAD that privellag. also You dont now because woman are coming back at y'all differently we bouncing out a lot quicker. Also no its not LMFAOO woman don't just wake up wanting to get divorced for some benefits 😂. Also whoever makes more by default has to give money this happens to woman who make more than their husband as well has nothing to do with favoring men. Just courts know if a woman left she might have been depending on her husband more or clearly vise versa if it's the other way. Also I do agree courts do side with woman more during court issues over children since usually courts tend to feel like its worse to take children from there mother for biological reasons. Thats why you see at some point courts ask the kids where they feel they want to go because there really is a lot more to consider when you're breaking a family apart. i do see some woman going throuhh the same things man do but as a woman you have to REALLY fuck up for that. My aunt was on child support all dat she didn't get my cousin until rn that she's 16 also. I do feel like that's unfortunate for men because they dont even have to necessarily have a bad record to not get all their rights to their own baby's. Anyways Marriage divorce is easier to deal with whever makes more will be the one to get fucked in the ass in the end.
You can keep spewing as much poppycock as you like. Women cheat as much as what men do, in my experience and from what I've seen over many years. The difference is that women always have to play the poor victim.
Okay let's ignore all facts and just pretend woman did in fact just as much as men even doe realisticly that doesn't really sound as realistic. Like seriously exactly what you say is a common mindset amongst men " i THINK woman do cheat as often but are just better at hiding it" do you not realize how insane that is. Why in the world would a female cheat better? If she's doing sneaky shit its gonna be obvious af. Girls aren't just such good cheaters we're never caught men just put that in their heads to feel better about themselves. Also yes woman turn around ans say they cheated because they werent getting enough emotionally out of the realtionship of he already cheated thats why more than normally the woman also. leaves the man for the other man. Men tend to cheat litearlly just because they want to and feem they dont owe the woman their dragging along any loyalty there's no real reasons behind it most of the time.
You haven't provided any facts though. All you have provided is a load of ignorant claptrap. I told you, I know a woman who admitted that almost all of her female friends have cheated on their husbands. I've seen women cheat time and time again. Only a deluded imbecile would believe that women don't cheat as much as men. Women cheat for all kinds of selfish reasons, just like men do.
That's every guys argument supposedly he has a female friend who knows her and all her friends cheat. Shutup lmao girls shame other girls for being cheaters and whore still. Also very few woman cheat im sorry the statistics are right and you can litearlly use a little logic put two and two together to figure out how that shaped soceity and also if you're honest with yourself men can do things woman just can't and it is more accepted
Not true at all. Women cheat just as much as what men do. Woman are liars and manipulators. They get special treatment and get away with things that men can't. Deny it all you wish. It's a fact.
Yeah and being a sexual beimg in any way is not one of our privellages its the man's. Guys THINK we cheat just as often and were supposedly hust sneakier. Like no it doesn't even make sense im sorry there's no too many genius ideas on how to cheat and woman aren't somehow these cheating genuises that keep fooling society. Men are the cheaters and yes out of guilt you guys want us to be the same so bad. Statistics say different and just in general its probably obvious how its true its cheating men who are in denial about that shit.
You just don't get it. My belief that women cheat just as much as men is the result of what I've seen over many years. When I was at school I seen lots of girls cheating on their boyfriends. And throughout my adult life I have seen women cheat on their boyfriends and husbands, many times. You can pull as many statistics out of your ass as you like. I go by real life experiences. Women are liars and manipulators and cheat just as much as what men do. I'm sorry that you're female pride won't allow you to admit it.
Everybody needs to vent! I don't consider myself unattractive but I am no male model when it comes to being attractive. I guess I cried myself to sleep too much during my mid-to-late 20's and come the turn of my 30's I just didn't care anymore that I wasn't getting laid unlike my peers and that I have no wife and kids by now and a house. It's not the end of life for me, I just got stuck with enjoying those things later in my life, I hope.
These guys need to come to terms with their situation like I finally did with my situation. It's unhealthy to wake up each day and compare yourself to others, I know! Besides, if these guys learned to accept their looks and try to improve their social skills they might actually better their chances and win over women not by their looks but by connecting with them on such a level that no male model face ever can, because they are all face and no heart like the ugly dude. So goes my hypothesis!
We are all dealt our hand BY GOD and we need to learn how to play that hand and hopefully shuffle through enough cards to come out winning the game or winning enough out of this game called LIFE!
Derek you're good looking? At supposedly I'm the ugly one right? Post a picture right now and you BETTER at the least be a guy I'd actually like in real life. Trying to call me ugly won't make me any less attractive i kmow some y'all trying to call me unattractive because what i said hurt your feelings. Howevwr i also do know its not a bumch of attractive guys id even normally date in the first place.
i dont know how to upload a picure but i can describe myself if you want... im 180 cm tall, muscular and lean, i had a beard before but now i have a little goatie i think i looked better with the beard not sure though, i have black hair, my face looks a little like an anime character not sure how to describe it and i have black eyes not the prettiest guy you'll ever see but im pretty though
@derek2017 Just remember, "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder". What are you trying to do, or prove, by posting pictures? Pictures are supposed to be worth a thousand words yet our eyes don't bother to read everything on first glance! So, a woman needs to get to know me and I need to work on my personality because I know I am not trying as hard as I should. Enough said.
Haha let's not forget that women started the fat acceptance non sense.
You talk about ugly guys complaining. Well fat women started a whole movement saying that you can be fat and healthy. And people need to find them beautiful.
So... in my opinion ugly guys complaining is not that big of a deal.
Wait im sorry you are actually right i just meant the incel community and also fat girls aren't mad about guys not dating them its actually because they want to be included in beauty standars as in be able to be in magazines be the ones playing lead roles as beautiful woman. They want more clothes for them and basically for people to respect them as a human being. Big girls can get boyfriends endless they aren't attractive. When i was big I still pulled but I was sad i wasn't like a model or anything. Im not now either but, still lol not sad about that anymore.
Well incels isn't really a movement. It's more of a little community for lonely guys.
And well reason why fat people are not often promoted by beauty standards is because it would promote obesity. And believe me America doesn't want to make that problem worst.
There are people that do find big girls attractive, but saying being fat is healthy and that people need to accept it is a bit ludicrous.
A little community? And some of these guys are actual threats to society doe they truly believe attractive people are the bad guys. Also I understand that I'm definetly not for making this a fat friendly world but when i was fat i guess I understood. Than again my health is more valueable than being accepted and yes just like saying attractive peolle are shallow for choosing not to date attractive people and its also crazy to unattractive and not actually want anyone unnatractive yourself but still expect pitty.
Yes... And actually from what I found before incels are more likely to commit harm on themselves than to others. Cause these guys are extremely depressed and they surround themselves with people that's depressed as well. And they even post memorials when they know a fellow incel has committed suicide.
Of course there are extreme cases like the infamous Elliott Roger shooting. But just don't believe everything you see on the news.
Like if a plane crashes of course the news will report it, but think about how many times the plane has landed safely.
And yeah these guys do complain. But they are definitely not a movement and they're not spreading it around, unlike the fat acceptance people.
@Roxilicious It's more about the 1% wealthiest elite of the media who control and influence what the masses beauty standards are, not average like the "typical men" that some people think it is.
No some guys are really fucking dangerous especially where im from when i was pregnant i had a gun pulled out on me and my homegirl because, we told some old ass creep to stop following us in our car. We just went to get some food at 711 a block from my friends house. Some creepy mad lonely guys take it too far and its scary asl. Also its just ANNOYING af to always hear these incels complaining. They don't even have to know of the group to be an incel but these men exsist and im geting sick of it.
Yes he MORE than likely was he was fucking creeping on woman in the streets I really do doubt he had any actual relationships. I do know what it stands for but the way some of these guys act is pathetic. They want good looking woman while at the samr time woman in their realistic league are not good enough. Also i could go down the street to 711 whenever tf i want and no I shouldn't get shot for it and no i wasn't asking for it. there's really a community of men out there like you who put the blame on woman something happens to her. Also it was broad daylight and even if it was night it stilk doesn't mean shit. He is the only one responsible for himself he was the one being a creep. He was the one doing something he wasn't supposed to be doing. I was going to Fucking 711 down my street broad day light. If you think its my fault and i somehow put myself at risk for litearlly just trying to get some snacks you can go fuck yourself.
Okay and i should still be able to go to 711 and its not my fault people are psychos also its not thugs who are a problem for me at least since im not a guy but its just weird legitmate creeps
It's hypocrisy to call someone shallow and then act the same way. One thing is being sad because girls that you are attracted to don't take interest in you, other is feeling entitled to have those girls' attention. Fist one is ok seconde one is not. On top of that calling them shallow for wanting handsome guys... that is just jealousy and self anger wishing to be more like them. Like you said not all do that. Thank God many are actually decent people. Also like you said I am used to see much more ugly guys with really hot girls than the other way around. Girls far for what they hear and guys for what they see I guess. One point I don't totally agree with you is that both genders will be socially criticized for saying they don't want an ugly or fat date. They will be seen as superficial no matter if they are male or female. In my opinion each person has the right to be attracted to whatever. We don't control who we are attracted to why should we be judged by it? It's just our taste, our preference it's like pointing fingers at someone for liking pasta more than rice. It's a personal preference.
As an ugly guy, I have tried to date women much uglier than me. They ALWAYS reject me because of my looks. Being ugly is worse for guys than girls, since girls can get a boyfriend if they lower their standards enough. I don't have this privilege.
I don't think an average/attractive person should act like they know anything about what ugly people have to go through. I don't feel entitled to a relationship, but I do see the multiple hypocrisies made by normal/attractive people.
1. It is actually the normal/straight people who feel entitled. They complain when they go a few weeks without sex, while many ugly people never had sex before and accept it.
2. Normal/attractive people are always in relationships, and they try to tell ugly people that relationships don't matter, when normal/attractive people don't even know what it's like to be alone for over twenty years.
3. Attractive people act like they are better than ugly people.
4. Attractive people rely on their appearence for pride. They need a certain amount of likes, views, etc.
5. Ugly guys are made fun of all of the time on social media. Nobody demonizes them...
No stop i doubt you've went for actual woman lower than you whatever you mean you probably just mean obese woman or bigger woman I dount you've went for an actual ugly faced woman. Guys think shapeless/big woman are easy and yeah because all unattractive people do is complain attractive people won't date them and how we're so shallow for it. Yet more than normally they won't actually go for someone in their league and it's true tbh an obese woman also just isn't the worsr option or somehow gonna hust settle
You don't know anything about me, and you never lived my life. I don't care if you doubt it, but it's true. I went for women with physical deformities as myself and they rejected me.
See how entitled you are? You think you know everything about others and look down on ugly people. Very typical.
I need proof of that because i really do doubt it tbh. Also i look down on ugly people who call attractive peoll2e shallow for not dating them yet dont date anyone like them also if you would have read i made it clear to say i KNOW NOT ALL UGLY MEN
You say not all men, but you automatically assume you know my entire life based on generalization and your own flawed personal beliefs, and you demand proof like the entitled person you are.
I am one of the very people on Earth who is actually ugly. I was bullied my entire life especially by women, can make barely any friends, nobody has complimented my looks not even my parents, I have no chin, a large bottom lip but small and thin upper lip, no jaw, balding, massive nose, small eyes. Women look at me with disgust, and I, in my desperation I try to date the ugliest women possible. They ALL rejected me, every single one.
Even the ugliest of women can get boyfriends. I know, because I was willing to do so. However, I gave up on relationships a year ago.
Do you even know what it's like to be ugly like me? Imagine everyone ignoring you, barely having any friends, men looking at you with disdain, getting bullied everyday your entire life growing up, never having a relationship or even thinking you have the possibility of having a relationship.
Attractive/Normal people don't know what they are missing. A person born into a rich family has no right to make fun of poor people, just like attractive people shouldn't talk shit about ugly people.
People in public think they are far too attractive for me, so I ended up looking for even less attractive women on the internet. I had the most luck on Discord since nobody on dating websites wanted me. After we agree to meet they say it wouldn't work between us.
It's pretty true. Below average guys who loudly complain, are often as shallow as they accuse women of being.
Fact is, there are below average guys who date the hot girl. They are rare, but it happens. You know what those guys don't do? Sit around moaning until the girl falls in their lap.
Fucking EXACTlY THANK YOUUUU !!! It happens all the time it's not uncommon that a woman sees a guy a little below her standards thay makes her feel good falls for him!
few people are ugly by birth, they choose to evolve into ugliness — change what you don’t like about yourself — it’s very difficult to change, it takes commitment, patience, lots of hard work, and maybe some money. Most beautiful people work hard at being beautiful and feel they deserve the same in a partner. So guys, up your game and quit whining.
I don’t really see that at all. Usually guys complain about specific bad events that happened with specific people that have happened in the past because that’s how they vent. Guys in generally don’t complain about fantasized long term relationships/marriage and deserving to being wanted. A lot of guys don’t really even get lonely...
Gee, can’t imagine why anyone might think your shallow. It’s not like your going around telling people to date in their league or anything. Defenitley not like you’ve admitted to using ugly dudes for their money or anything like that. Not like your being super judge mental with almost every comment you make or anything like that. Anyone else seeing the pattern?
Um I don't care I'm not shallow im realistic i date who i can date and thats it. Also use is not the word i WORK as a sex worker itd a job i dotn use or lie to anyone. there's nothing wrong with being a sex workers there would be if i lied men into relationships that were exclusively for money. I have never done that any guys I've date and I've dated unattractive guys before well not interactive just bigger men before and it never has been about money. My work life and love life are two separate things and shallow i am not. There is an explanation why us as humanbeings date who we date and unfortunately the scientific reason has little to nothing to do eith feelings. Also unattractive people actuallt are self aware and can also see when someone else in unattractive but, this could be a problem for unattractive peolle because scientifically well do go with who most appealing and most like us. This could clearly be a problem for aware unattractive people but regardless im tired of unattractive people blamimg attractive people for that. When all i see is unattractive people go for whats out of their league and they dont even want someone like themselves. Perfect example was the guy complaining about how he doesn't want obese or ugly girls yet he is both. That to me is silly and to me a lot of unattractive men hold this same ass mentality like ew.
I know i hope a few ugly complaining mens feelings but tbh i don't care its true. Pretty girls dont have to date you and it doesn't mean she's shallow for it. Also not ALL MEN i said some but if you felt you fit thw description than yes be offended i meant you :).
Honestly it’s fascinating to watch this, it’s almost like deep down you want to prove my point. Every word you type about this just makes you look worse. And yes you seem to fit the defenition of shallow quite well.
Shallow: not exhibiting, requiring, or capable of serious thought.
Synonyms: superficial, simplistic, ignorant.
You look at things only from your point of view. IGNORANT
You judge people only by their appearance, and assume things about them because of how they look. SUPERFICIAL
You continue to spout nonsense about people you have never met and do not know, and speak in generalized terms. SIMPLISTIC AND NARROW MINDED.
Er wrong i never judged anyone for just being ugly 😄 im judging ugly peolle who think their too good for other ugly people than turn aroumd and bitch about it
Well “ugly” is a subjective term. What one person calls ugly another might call gorgeous. And literally everything you said has been judging people based on their looks. You said and I quote “people need to stay in their league”. Well who are you to say who is in someone’s league. You keep saying it annoys you when people complain about things like this. Yet here you are bitching about people in an online forum. Your literally saying people should be segregated based on an arbitrary judgement of appearance. God woman get over yourself already.
I never said people need to stay in their league not once. I said guys who are unattractive yet won't date unattractive girls because they feel higher make no sense to me.
I don’t disagree with some of your points. People who act like that are being kind of hypocritical. My problem is your complaining about other people’s shallow behavior when you yourself are presenting an example of what they are complaining about. Your just as bad, If not worse than them. I’m not the only person seeing this, take a look at the rest of the thread. Almost everyone here is telling you your acting shallow and conceited. Shouldn’t that tell you something about the way your acting? Your complaining about other people’s problems, do you have any empathy for other people at all? Physical attraction is arbitrary, and it’s the basis of the vast majority of romantic relationships. Of course someone’s going to complain when they put themselves out there and then get shot down. It hurts, even if you are expecting it. When they start insulting the other person they’ve gone to far, but sometimes people lash out when they’re upset. It doesn’t make it ok, but it does make it understandable. My problem with your viewpoint is that you refuse to look at the situation from their point of view. Are you telling me you’ve never gotten upset when someone turned you down? If not then I have to praise you on your stellar emotional control, in that department you would be a wonderful example to all mankind.
Wait so how am I acting shallow or conceited for saying unattractive men complaining about attractive woman not wanting them yet refusing to date ugly woman somehow makes me shallow and conceited? HOW EXACTLY.
Funny how you are bashing men for something women primarily do. Only a small portion of men (incels etc.) feel entitled this way, most unattractive men settle for less attractive girls. On the other hand, even the ugliest fattest trolls among girls absolutely NEVER want to settle for an even average looking guy.
Not one word of what you said is true. Men today have the lowest standards ever because you women have thousands of options. Each of you has a minimum of 1000 dicks hunting you and in the end you reject them all. Guys who are 10's compromise and get with a 5 or lower because the 10's who are supposed to be with them prefer "love" from their millions of thirsty twitter, Facebook, instagram followers and then whore themselves literally with cute selfies and semi-nude pictures. So no, this is not about ugly guys wanting gorgeous women. It's about women having no idea who the fuck to choose. Why stick with just one man when you can have millions on instagram who will also provide you with beta bucks for a few bikini photos?
I've never been in a relationship. I've never been able to get a girl who likes me. Who's fault is that? Mine. It's my own damn fault that I slacked off for a lot of years, and didn't make the improvements and adjustments necessary to being able to attract a mate. I think it is foolish for the man to blame the women for rejecting him, but not taking responsibility for his own situation. For me personally, I have a long ways to go to be able to find the type of woman I would want. For the record, I probably have had pretty high standards from a looks standpoint in the past, but whenever I got rejected, I didn't blame the woman. I blamed a lot of other scapegoats other then myself, but I didn't blame the woman herself. I certainly think a lot of men get frustrated, and take out their frustrations on the women. It's a pretty weak route to go I agree. Many just need to learn to love themselves.
I think all men are like this and women are getting sick of their shit, getting higher education, making more money to care for themselves bc men aren't reliable
That's scientifically not true the only people actually struggling are unattractive people for whatever reason they may be deemed unattractive. Also if you are attractive struggling dating it could be because of serious issues within yourself but realistically attractive or average People don't struggle dating. There is an actual scientic reason behind this there is a science to how we find partners for ourselves and yes a big part of it unfortunately does have to do with looks. Take a look at this and you will clearly come to find first before anything there has to be lust and its true examinedexistence.com/.../
Your right, just ignore this chick. She’s to caught up in herself to listen to anyone else. Going around calling people ugly and unattractive, out of her league my ass. Wouldn’t touch this one with a 10 foot pole. Attraction isn’t just looks, it’s personality too. And this ones personality could scare off a pack of rabid dogs.
Lmaooo I dont care what I said wasn't fucked up. It is silly of an unattractive male to bitch about not being able to get attractive woman YET still feel too good for woman in his league.
Also the fact that you're saying im saying people are out of eachothers leagues is false asfk i never said that at all in any way i literally just said exactly what i said above if that ofends some guys and they felt like it attacked them personally than WELL SHIT idgaf.
Wait I did say people are out of eachothers leagues because thats scientifically correct BUT i never said its impossible to date someone whos more attract than you as a guy
And there we are talking about unattractive people and leagues again. ATTRACTION IS ARBITRARY!!! How hard is that to grasp? People are attracted to who they’re attracted to. Some people like skinny people, some people like fat people, some men, some women, some people are attracted to inanimate objects. I don’t care, my point is you keep saying people shouldn’t complain about people out of they’re league rejecting them. By what almighty standard are you judging peoples appearances? Because you sure as hell aren’t qualified to be judging anyone else.
LMAOO you know their unattractive because their litearlly complaining about woman not dating them for it. there's not way around that when they say it themselves and also call woman shallow for not seeing how much of a great guy they are. They unattractive men do tend to have shitty personailitys because once again if they didn't they more than likely would have a partner.
You know, I’m done with this. Your obviously not trying to find a legitimate answer to this question. Your just looking to circle jerk with a bunch of judgmental asshats like yourself. Stick to selling your body to highest bidder lady, your not really good at much else from what I’ve seen. And for those who might be offended by this, I’m not implying she’s a prostitute she already admitted to it.
I'm not a prostitute im a camgirl in other words and doesn't really chang that fact that I'm entitled to my opinion. I still don't care if it offended anyone I know I wasn't insulting ugly people or some shit. I'm saying HOW ARE YOU GoNNA BE UNATTRACTIVE ACTING LIKE YOU'RE TOO GOOD FOR SOMEONE WHO IS ALSO UNNATRACTIVE. if that offends anybody than good because you are litearlly killing your own chances at happiness.
Let us get this straight. We aren't really talking about physical attractiveness. "Attractive" men are basically men who are good at attracting and dating women.
The reasons why unattractive men complain are varied. Some have a few legit gripes. Most simply are either too ignorant or too stubborn to do what is required to be more successful at dating.
He is Turkish actor look better than his wife i have seen things like that in real life if they fall for their personality hot guy's with average girls.
That girl is not average lol she's hot i think this one is more opinion based because to me personally they look like they fall on the same end of the spectrum
Lol i knew a half Turkish guy once and to this day that still my #1 papi 😂😍 # i vouch doe and damn she an average turk girl? 😭 jesus Turkish woman slay than 😍
I guess pride becomes more important to you if you're unattractive. They feel like they must make themselves think they're all that to not be depressed. Dunno, just a guess!
Exactly ! They just want to make society the bad guy while at the same time not making any actual efforts to change. You can litearlly tell guys who do this what would help and they litearlly won't take the advice and just sit in their own depression because of it. At some point you have to get a grip of yourself face up to what you have to i strongly believe anyone can get someone is they are 100% at their best looks and most definetly personaility wise.
I used to be like them when I was a kid then I grew up got a little better looking as I got older but the most important thing was I don't suck to be around anymore.
People complain due to a negative situation or personal factors that they couldn't prevent or control. They are expressing their feelings of not being satisfied, ruminating on setbacks instead of focusing on progress, or this could be an ingrained habit. Complainers won't think anything will work well. It's a lack-mindset possibly among many other bad habits they picked up depending on how they were raised and whether or not they chose to get help during their adult years.
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So it's okay when women complain that they are ugly and fat, and start a whole campaign about being healthy when they have reached the lowest point in their lives that they find the need to complain to other people when its really their problem? i think its fair to say you are being hypocritical and you dont know what your saying
Girl no this doesn't even make sense? What campaign even is this? I've never heard of a campaign of woman that complain about being fat regardless of the fact that they aren't even doing anything yo fix it. I feel like you don't actually even know what a campaign is and hust throw some random gibberish together. Also try a different example because either ways this one didn't even fit in.
I thought men guys had an easier chance of finding high-quality women, being that we live in the age of validation-seeking and a decent contingency of women (not all, maybe not even most, but a noticeable amount) just want a man whose existence makes them feel validated and superior.
Okay but to me it makes no sense when unnattrcative guys call attractive girls shallow because they choose to not date them while they turn around and refuse to date ugly woman
I don't actually see that ever if anything woman date down. I dont see attractive ass guys with unattractive woman what most hot men mean by unattractive but dateable is a fat pretty girl.
There a lot if you search them in google also a lot of them rather keep the relationship in private. Also attractiveness is subjective for your information. If i show you a picture of an unattractive girl dating a hot guy, that guy may not be hot but the girl may be attractive for you
Yeah i just looked it up and as suspected not a single ugly chick with hot guy only hot girls with only guys. Look up attractive guy and ugly girl and yeah not 1 ugly girl and handsome guy. Also yeah in real life not once have i ever seen an obviously ugly girl with a hot chick only way i see it if the guy is fucking that ugly chick. I mean shit anyone can look it up on google and it not 1 ugly chick with a handsome guy.
Because we don't just need to be handsome in order for us to be considered attractive. Also yeah you can see vice versa a lot in google because they're just addressed. You mean to say there are more women dating ugly guys addressed? Of course because we have something else in our standards
Pull up an imagie of an ugly girl with a handsome guy you can't because it doesn't happen lol. Some unattractive men are single because they refuse to date at their level because they do feel way too good and like they could do better.
Like what I said, That's not adressed that much. Do you want me to take pictures of strangers? And what part of "attractiveness is subjective" do you not understand? There are more standards women give to men not just looks that's why.
She's not even ugly she's litearlly just fat lets be real attractive fat people dont struggle dating either this ALSO applys with guys my ex was like 300 hundred obesss pounds but he had a face of a God and i still dated him so fat attractive people dont coumt find me a real ugly woman
Because it is subjective. I don't think she's ugly but compare her to that guy. There are people who think she's ugly, there are people who don't because we all judge things differently.
Im attractive enough to not be single right now or really ever. I've always been able to have a man even at my worst and i was still pretty cute so. Lol post the pic now doe i actually want an attractive guy i would actually go for in real life to change my mind. Other than that no im sorry I've never had any issues with dating.
"Im attractive enough to not be single right now" Cool but i have a different opinion sorry to say. Not just me but probably more people. I dont think he is refering to you but he's talking about feminists in general only with a typo. Nice braging your experiences without any evidence and you still think this is all about you. If you don't have any problems with dating then chances are you have the schemes just like how some guys having no problems with dating. Not assuming anything usually those people who don't have problems with dating specially those who always think about how good they are are the ones who play or gold dig as they don't care about their partners but only thinking about them being so "attractive" giving their partners problems not them. I would say that personality don't attract me or lots of people.
Aiko stop trying to talk me like you're a guy I'd actually go for you're not and please don't try and lie to yourself. You aren't even my type to be trying to talk down on me like I've said let a real attractive man I WOULD actually like talk down on my looks. I look good and i know that but i say that in the humblest way I'm definetly not the best but I'm definetly not gonna date guys who aren't cute at least. Even a big guy with a cute face has a chance with me only thing you have to be is cute and very smart :). Also no just stop you dont know me and you don't get to decide how i choose to date. I'm not playing anyone and im not a golddigger i dont date men for money or lie to them pretending to be something I'm not for their money. Stop trying to pin all this random ass bs on me tbh.
You don't want information? Fine. I can still give that information to anyone here. Ofcourse I don't know you that's why I'm not assuming anything. Just telling you the odds ok? And more like I don't know you so stop bringing your experiences because we doubt people we don't know so you stop lying to yourself.
It's just like you're gonna say you're attractive to anyone and you can tell all your experiences to anyone but if we don't think so, you're just gonna say we don't know you? We don't know you so of course we have the reason to doubt you. Why not? I can always base things on the empirical data proven.
I explained before. They don't "Deserve"; they "Want". They tried and failed. They lowered their standards, still nothing. What happens when you can't succeed? You complain. You go on a rant. Or isolate yourself from everyone and feel depressed.
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Because they're the ones who usually think they're the most entitled. They must have felt like they were entitled to any woman they wanted. Otherwise they wouldn't left me alone the first time I rejected them. I've had two ugly men that wouldn't leave me alone. Even after I told one of them I wasn't interested. Being persistant only works when you're trying to get a job, not a girlfriend. So if she tells you she isn't interested, move on, and leave her alone.
Because most people do deserve love and affection. Plus I see men wayyy less attractive than me who have girlfriends snd wives that are physically way out of the guys league, hypothetically speaking it is assumed they are.
This is not accurate plus size woman aren't complaining about dates. Plus size girls litearlly have men who specifically like them. They want in on the fashion industry they want to beauty icons now just fetishes. Although I dont agree with too much encouragment of being able to plus size that's bad for society.
No, they do, a lot. Fattitude. As for the specific guy that’s called a cuck. As in desperate scumbag. Actually come to think of it we found where the complainers go.
Fucking Right ? Like change and do something about it whatever you're doing clearly isn't working. Could be looks but could also be a major personaility fault which is what it falls down to in my opinion. Being ugly is forgiveable for a man as long as he's a genuinely nice man. No not fake incel nice guys who will call ypu a whore the minute they get angry at you lol.
I wouldn't settle wit an ugly guys because i dont have to. It pisses me off when ugly guys think they deserve girls like me or better just because it fits his fantasy ass vision of what a woman he deserves to be. You expect forgiveness for being ugly yet you dont want anyone ugly. If you are like that you don't deserve anything beautiful and thats probably why God made your ass ugly because he knew your heart since the start. You can't be ugly and think you deserve and think you dont deserve to be with an ugly person like come on now. You can end up with an attractive person as an ugly guy but 100% if your mindset like this you don't deserve it and yes you probably will never get it be cause its fucking stupid shallow.
@derek2017 Dude chill she’s a narcissist, don’t you analyse her language? NPD is at an epidemic rise and it’s not only just women, I’ve seen men who think they’re all hot and shit and make other people feel inferior to them. Stay away from toxic people. It’s bad for health. You can’t convince her that she’s an idiot, that’s what the disorder is.
Only mentaldisorders i have is anxiety and ADHD which is recent diagnosis. There's litearlly nothing narcistic about what i said and yes I'm VERY well informed on what narcism is and how it works. Saying that is shallow for an unattractive person to not choose to date another unattractive person because they feel like they themselves and than calling other people shallow for not choosing to look past the same flaw they can't is in no way having any type of inferiority complex. What i can say is if you are offended by what i said than i am NOT sorry because yes it is shallow and fucked up.
It doesn't make sense because. I have an actual therapist and i have actual diagnosis. I would apologize if i felt what i said was actually long or mean. I did say sorry when I felt I said something a bit too harsh o litearlly said sorry for it and anyone can read that. Also people with narcism disorder NEVER say sorry because they lack that empathy and if they ever do its because their forced or to put up a front. Also either ways like I said what i said isn't actually wrong.
You need an actual diagnosis of narcism to be a narcistic silly goose which I've already told you I'm not. All i have is anxiety and its highly narcistic of YOU to believe you're somehow gonna know more than my therapist who's licensed. Sorry thinking its shallow of someone to think their too good for an ugly person as an ugly person is not mean.
Im not buying it im not gonna give these kind of guys a pity party. How are you gonna be ugly and not want to date someone ugly because you feel somehow too special for that. Sike that's shallow asfk and needs to be called out and thats why most them lonely.
look here girly the thing is everyone likes whatever he likes, if a guy is ugly he suffers because he doesn't get any women and feels lonely and abandoned so dont act like you know how that is also like i said if a guy likes a pretty girl he's not just gonna settle with an ugly one and be sad for the rest of his life thats all!!!
Idc if a guy is ugly im talking about the specific ones im reffering to and he suffers because he wants to and is entitled to the idea he truly deserves a better looking woman. Also yes im very aware guys lile to drag along woman for 40+ years while they try and fimd their dream girl and i k ow they end up depressed when they realize thats the best they could do. Fuck guys who do that not only are they ugly but, their cowards instead of letting that woman go and telling her the truth he feels like he's entitled to drag her along and in the end he feels more sorrt for himself. Some men truly are disgusting like that and it is time it's called tf out.
I guess the men that simply find themselves unattractive need to see their beauty and that they were wonderfully made regardless of what others them. Taking care of yourself is the first priority
Being ugly sucks. Not only do you get shit on for trying to date, people also have this presumption about you. I should just get plastic surgery and turn sexy
Wait, so what about the unattractive guys that aren't lonely? Also it's not swallowing pride for those guys that understated their limits, it's using common sense and simple logic.
Yeah but when you say "all unattractive men" then you don't leave any room for doubt that you clumped all of those guys together, so why wouldn't we assume that you have a hate boner for all unattractive men in general? The fact that you don't understand that people dating within their league has nothing to do with swallowing their pride is both worrying and very funny.
No i didn't I made it clear this was not about all unattractive men since the start and because some unattractive men im assuming got their panties twisted in a knot at the word unattractive men
Again, still worrying and funny that you don't get it, you must really know some douchey ugly dudes for this to not have even occurred to you. Allow me to point something out, while yeah you did kind of clarify that you didn't mean all unattractive men; leading your argument with, LITERALLY in the first two sentences, the lines "amongst unattractive men" and "they all have one thing in common" will lead most people to assume you are yet another person that believes if a person isn't a 10/10 then they have no worth to you. Yeah the argument for reading until the end is a very valid one but, if you haven't noticed, most people on the internet don't really do that, that's why you see a lot of disclaimers written before the argument.
Wow, I never said that you were either, I implied that's how you come across, doesn't mean that's how you are in real life. Also looking through your other comments on this question, I can now see why you are this way; having a fat ugly dude, that doesn't get that he is fat and ugly, pay for your lifestyle and then act all shallow and stupid will make anybody jaded.
Well that's just calldd people jumping to their own conclusions and deciding things they shouldn't without any solid evidence. Also he's just fat and shallow not ugly also he was not my inspiration for this status doe i know he will eventually change he's really self aware its only a matter of time. Also my inspiration came from a guy on here who complains about not being able to gind attractive woman YET making no real efforts to change himself to actually be good enough. All he does is complain complain complain and thus my question was born now stop jumping to conclusions
Because guys are constantly hounded about unfair beauty standards meanwhile women can reject and shame unattractive men all they want, especially short men. The idea that a guy unfortunate enough to be below 5'9" has to settle for someone that can't control their diet is more unfair than any beauty standard is put upon women.
Attractiveness is somewhat subjective. The argument can be flipped as well. But how often does anyone settle for equal or less? In general we want better. Guys also have sex drives effecting their decision making not long term relationship goals.
Misread your first post. Thought you were complaining about the opposite because of the title and some wording. Almost the same answer, who wants to kiss or have sex with someone ugly? You want someone you are attracted to thats not a logical thought process its an immediate (s) he's hot or (s) he's not.
Yes but you dont have the same choices when you are unnattrcative and if you're aware of it than there should be no reason why you think someone should just feel sorry you were born ugly while you can't have that same forgiveness for someone else and have the nerve to end up lonely and complain about are the horrible shallow pretty woman whI never chose you.
dude just stop complaining get busy with your own life and you'll see that while you're busy with yourself and not paying any attention to girls they will come after you, you won't even have to do anything lol
😂😂😂😂bro take it easy. I am going to be an engineer with a job or a shop in just sometime, going to start a better life. life will find its way , if it loses its path then I am going to be more successful then ever ( not like a billionaire or something , more like peace and plenty)
Derek2017 girls think you're good in study and they can get free notes that's why they try to talk. Happened with me, trust me the note you gave them they are going to come back😂😂😂🤓🤓🤓🤓.
I'm trying to say thats a horrible idea lol if you can't get girls and you're unnatttactive you might be on the shy side or something about your personailty might not be matching up too good with girls but def try and talk more and be friendly tbh friendly guys who are cool do have a good chance at getting any girl endless she's shallow af
Both of you clam down. This is what makes distance between gender a real thing. Just let it be my life is on track, derek2017 go and study @Roxilicious just don't waste time on guys like us, find something better to talk on
I dont see ugly girls complain guys won't date them really ever if im honest I just see a lot complain guys ghost them or something which more than normally isn't even done by am attractive guy and its normally because unattractive guys think they're gonna end up with a beautiful woman if their just nice enough to them than maybe she'll see he's such a good guy
That is your experience then but that doesn't really make it everyone's experience so think about it before you generalize. By the way aren't girls especially those who look like emo or punks with bright colored hair the making videos about how shallow men are because the only preferred good looking girls? Take fat acceptance for example. They make videos shaming men because of the idea that men prefer skinny women so that's why being fat makes them a feminist not the other way around. I don't know not all of them are fat but most of them are. Again what you experienced doesn't really change the statistical average and empirical data society.
Okay and incels exsist whats your point? And it makes sense because men always think their better than those woman regardless of how low he truly is. Men tend to think their better than woman for about the same things its just the way it is I mean seriously. Like even down to the way men have sex they can fuck a "slut" normally a womab with more than 3 bodies and they can hage like 11+ on them and still have superiority over that. Turn around and believe they deserve a woman with no bodys or one men are just weirdly entitled to me.
I never said incels don't exist. My point is that applies for both genders. When did i even say that men are better? I said nothing of the sort but you took it that way. As for you asking questions like generalizing men, i give you examples about what feminists do and that's crossing the line that got you to think that i'm saying men are better? I did not say that. I said "same reason why unattractive women do"
Did i day you or men as in those who complain about attractive woman wanting them but also not ever trying to date any unattractive in their league type woman?
Or to make it clear, you are talking about unattractive men not talking about me so i am talking about unattractive women not talking about you. Postscript, if you're going to say not all unattractive women are like that, then that would make you a hypocrite if you don't like it if i just point out that you are generalizing unattractive men.
Can you read the title of your question? I did not even accuse you saying all but the you generalizing still stands. "why do unattractive men complain" as in in general yeah? I just did exactly what you did. what is the problem?
You said in generalizing unnatractive men which i am NOT. I'm talkimg about specific unattractive men who bitch about not having no one yet refuse to date girls in their league.
"Why do unattractive men complain?" That title says enough tho. It's just like saying black people are shit but all of them are. And I didn't see the word "specific unattractive men" in your title.
No feelings were hurt here. Why can't I just point out about your title? Unless you're hurt because I pointed out about the title. In fact your title still stands
So what if I make a mytake saying women are bs as a title then start saying things like not all of them are in the rest. I bet many women will complain about being offensive. So it's like it's ok for you to generalize unattractive men because you can always change the story in the details but when I point that out, I'm silly now huh? You're the point of double standards.
No i hate when specific ugly men complain about not being able to specifically get attractive woman they THINk they deserve. Idc about ugly guys being ugly complaining about thay shit but i have a problem when they also feel too good for an ugly girl like no -,-.
I don't care if this is offensive wtf lol it is shallow of these guys to not want to date in their own league yet bitch about how they can't get attractive girls sorry thats dumb to me.
I mean care to explain how im shallow without just basically it being i hurt your feelings for calling someone out for being a hypocrite. Once you can find me one line in there and quoted please I'll apologize 😆.
i never said that you were shallow, so don't feel attacked and defensif, i said ugly women can be as shallow and judgmental as ugly men (your topic question is attacking shallow ugly men after all...), and you are hypocritical because you can't admit that ugly girls do that too. if you need a "quote" your conversation with users hellacray, Aiko_E_Lara and CT_CD
I have an actual therapist and an actual diagnosis no I'm not. I have anxiety no NPD doe. However going around diagnosing people with disorders even doe you aren't licensed to actually do that would make you a lot more likely to be someone with NPD. Giving advice on something you have no real knowledge on.
Wow! I didn't know you are a sugar baby. I have one question. Do you think there is a demand for guy sugar babies too by elder women? And is the fees of guys less than that of girl sugar babies?
I'll be honest with you it's not normally woman buying male sugarbabys and they do just as good :) a man can still be a fantasy he just has to be attractive
A female who isn't prejudiced i mean my most favorite guy in the entire world that I've been around is a middle eastern guy i know thats not an indian accent but, i love him for him regardless and it didn't really matter if he had an accent i barely noticed it from how much I liked him :)
Thanks for sharing about your friend. Well women who don't have prejudice are rare I guess. They usually look for so called sexy guys who sound like Christian Grey from Fifty Shades of Grey haha
Well your question proves a point that some men complain a lot like me🙈
@derek2017 Because THEY'RE ugly too ! LOL Why would a beautiful woman choose an ugly looking man? He better have an amazing personality, and / or a fat wallet.
Exactly and if you're sitting around complaining how shallow pretty woman dont like you but ugly girls do than yes you are not even ugly with a good personaility which is a big contribution to not getting a beautiful woman. Trust me if you're a womans friend regardless how beautiful she and you keep being her friend and being nice eventually she might see beauty in you thats way beyond just attractivness.
Hell no ugly girls settle for guys in a different way they dont even think about looks. Ugly girls date by which guys has the best personailty since they already dont have a choice. Girls a lot more likely to be more accepting because girls love the idea of love more and will do a lot more for it girls a tad bit more emotional than guys.
As a sugarbaby whos been around actual rich men I'll tell you this it still works the same. My sugardaddy is STILL trying to find a woman who truly loves him and he tries poor baby... I do feel sorry for him but, he's overweight like obese overweight. He also has that same entitlement as most men girls do it as a job but, i think guys sometimes dont really fully fully understand that when they work with us. Its a little devastating if you're emotional like me but, at the same time men have it confused when they think only money can get love or super good looks. You need neither you just need to open up your heart to be loved and no man should have any dating problems if they did in my honest opinion. Hot men are loved already itd be easy to find a girl to love and ugly men need to lower their standards find a girl in their league and she will definetly love him maybe even better than any hot girl. Also all of us will get old and die we dont have much time to be concerned about trying to get the most attractive partner and thats not really what its about I wish more people understood that.
Did you even watch the video? That poor guy has lowered his standards and yet even the ugly women reject him; thus, ugly men are destined to die alone. That’s why they complain because that’s their only outlet.
As a sugarbaby I'll tell you rn my sugardaddy is still single and not by choice. He definetly is a wealthy man and a girl could potentionaly like him enough to stay i would if he had a better mindset. He doesn't doe he's really superficial and believes he deserves the best. My Sugardaddy is obese and he once told me he'd kick a "fatbitch" out his car. He's still single with all that money and wonders why. he's still my friend and i deeply love him but this is the sad truth.
Oh now I get it! You're an entitled barely legal adult that sells her ass to some fat guy, no wonder you don't understand basic logic about dating preferences.
Entitled to what exactly I'm very confused Right now also I sell to fat guy's? No just stupid clients don't look a certain way. Client's are all different guys there's no discriminating with me. Also I don't care if you're " preference is someone attractive while being unattractive and expecting to not date anyone unattractive to you yes I can think you're dumb for that. There is no actual logic behind this other than obvious shallowness.
I suppose sugarbaby has a different meaning over in the US, here in the UK it doesn't work on a client system, it basically works like the girl is a hooker (that only goes and stays with the one guy as long as he provides) that won't put out but will tease him to keep the money going - basically the same thing but less of a business like mindset I guess. So forgive the ignorance, not all of us are well versed in how to sell yourself as if you were cattle at an auction. Again, it's still funny and worrying that you just can't grasp the concept of both somebody dating out of their league and being cool about it and unattractive guys simply not being prideful but rather fine with their limits, not everybody wants a hot girl as most of the time the hotter the girl the more issues she brings - same with hot men.
I'm going to just stop ypu guy's right here because i didn't. ask for nobodys input on my job. I don't give a rat's ass if any of you would like to give me money and make it for me instead than by all means. If not its not your place especially when i never asked lmao. Also what's hard for me to grasp is how I've explained what i said like 30 times and you're still saying the same thing does it ACTUALLY matter what I say. 😂? also okay and if they dont was i reffering to them or JUST UNATTRACTIVE GUY'S WHO DO? Like what is your point lmao
incels= involuntarily celibate men who are too ugly and stupid to get a girlfriend and hate women because of it mgtow= (men going their own way) there is no "involuntarily" here!!! we are men who had relationships some of us were married, got screwed over by cheating girlfriends and golddigging wives, lost our dignity and all of our shit, and realised its not worth it anymore!!
What they should feel is stupid! You stupid if you're ugly and mad because attractive people dont want you and you feel too good for ugly mfs like you like what how dumb is that.
I don't even believe in the bible lol but okay so doesn't really apply to me. Also if you lookup the definition of hypergamy you'll see what it means and you actually sound stupid for one.
reading the bible does that to people when you use actual logic lol.. Now im not denying that there's a possibility there is in fact a God but what i am saying is the bible is bullshit.
@tearout I find it funny how you don’t believe there’s a core in the earth but you do believe there is a god. The first has physical proof, the second’s proof is a book written by humans thousands of years ago.
You can be an atheist without thinking everything is about you. I’m an atheist and I want to use my time in this world to help as much people as possible and in a lasting way (think laws etc), because I know that I’m only going to be here shortly and I don’t matter.
I’m not comparing the core to god I’m comparing the evidence there is for them. There is a lot of evidence for the core and no evidence whatsoever for god. I assume you think the earth is flat? Then how come we can go around it?
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I saw it from an incel or MGTOW here who blocked me long ago. I'm not siding with him tho just the pic 
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