Why are men still getting married?

[Anonymous]

Marriage benefits only women. Women get all the privileges and advantages and men get all the liabilities, responsibilities, duties and no reward whatsoever at all. He'll turn into a slave and an ATM and she can boast about it to her friends and family. His money is hers now and he is her property.

And especially divorce, which is the worst. All his money, his house, his car and belongings are now hers and he is left on the brink of poverty. He'll get to pay alimony and child support to someone, who he will never see again.

And men still go for it?
How many more times do men have to get scammed like that until men finally start to pick up on it and stop being taken advantage of like that?
Yet men keep marrying and keep getting divorced and keep returning to poverty once again.

I have no words for this. Any man, who is still falling for this obvious scam has 0 sympathy from me and all he will get from me is a burst of laughter accompanied with "I told you so!". Really at this point they fully deserve it. Sue me!

Power of the p u s s y is too strong. They are possessed!

They're idiots

Nobody told them it's a trap

They delay the inevitable because she places an ultimatum: Marriage or instant break up (same answer as A)

They're deluded (same answer as B)

Other

[KaitieSearching]

I just want a husband to take care of and children to raise. I want to make my family cocoa on a rainy day, make them soup when their ill. I want to be a comfort on a bad day. I want to teach my children, hold my babies. I want someone to put first. I want to do things that may be small, but take away stress from other people. I want to make home a place of love and security. I want to feel like I belong. I want a purpose. I want to create the family that my parents didn’t. I want peace and contentment and security. That’s what I want in a marriage. That’s what I want in a family.
I know that the culture doesn’t favor men. I know that in general they resent that and women consequently. And me consequently. And I’m sorry. I’d give anything for that to go away. I’d give anything for the chance at the peaceful, loving, fantasy I have nurtured as the child or divorced parents.
The only one who resents divorce and marriage as much as MGTOW, is us children of divorce. I’m going to be careful of whom I marry. I’m not going to divorce. Ever.

[GingerGuy]

On the first paragraph, you can have all that and not be married. ie, marriage doesn't equal security. But I do like your thinking. In an ideal world, this would be wonderful.

[Asker]

@GingerGuy exactly. Marriage merely complicates things

[Rica_ChicaUSA]

You're not talking about marriage. You're talking about slavery. Honestly, yes, a lot of women do that to the man - they think they want to get married and they're great in the beginning, but after the ring exchange they become lazy and controlling. (Yes, I'm talking about the women here.)

But just so you know... we are not all that way. I say that because some of us are actually raised to please the man after we are married, not to deny him all the time like a lot of women do. Then again, that's a culture thing.

[Rica_ChicaUSA]

And as anonymous said, you should marry for love - not just for sex. Honestly, if you just marry for sex and not love then you're bound for divorce and failure because she's smart enough to know that's why you did it and not because you loved her. And tbh you won't get much of what you want lol

[Asker]

Marriage, slavery. What's the difference? The former is legal. The latter is illegal. It's slavery with a relatively new name.

[Rica_ChicaUSA]

Not if you marry the right person for the right reason :) but based on what it has become in a lot of people’s eyes... I don’t blame you for thinking that way. Or the women either, for that matter... because like you, that’s all some people have seen. I’m not saying I agree because I’ve seen it the other way around - as a beautiful thing - so not saying you’re right, just saying that if that’s all you’ve seen then it’s understandable that you see it that way. Hopefully someday a woman will come along and give you the happiness and love you expect plus more.

[Asker]

Wow. You're actually so nice and understandable and understanding. And you're a young woman. I am very surprised 😯
Thank you for your good wishes 😊 you deserve a good, faithful and loving boyfriend, who likes to make you happy 💝

[Rica_ChicaUSA]

Aww thanks :)

[sejla]

What money? I didn't see it. We supported my ex's family so they wouldn't starve to death back in his home country since there were embargoes and wars there. If I cared only about money I would have bailed immediately.

Some men want to have kids just as much as women and they'd like to do it in a family unit so they do it through marriage. Marriage isn't necessary but many choose it because of this.

[Anonymous]

Love is a thing. I would explain how people marry for love, but I have a feeling you're too far gone. I hope you find happiness.

[Rica_ChicaUSA]

This too.

[Passinggas]

There still a lot of ignorant sobs out there and they will have to find out the f-ed-in-the-ass way. I see these guys that I knew before, during and after. The married ones no longer have a soul and appear to me like damn yes men zombies that kiss their feminist wives’ asses continuously. I know two divorced ones (one personally) that ate bullets to end it. Yes, the government has taken over relationships, marriage, and the only way out is; hell there is no way out except as I described. I extend your question to relationships also, because I think as the marriage rate zeros out the government will begin heavy regulation of relationships in the same manner.

[Asker]

Well. You are right. I hope they won't put their noses any further into our private lives. I suppose as long as people keep getting married and divorced like that they won't really see a problem with it.

[Southeast]

Tbh marriage does seem stupid my partner and I have been engaged for three years and just decided moving from melb to the Gold coast is a much better decision than throwing 35-50k on a wedding I think the current wedding budget is at $34320 fuck that we would much rather a happy healthy life together than the government saying we belong to each other still until we get married I have and plan to continue buying her a new engagement ring every two years she deserves pretty things if she can't get that paper

[Asker]

$35k is the minimum? You can buy a new middle tier but good car with that money! And the governments can go screw themselves. They aren't going to see any money from me "for the love".

[Southeast]

35k is what we're at what with venue , celebrant, catering , decorations , music, price per guest room we wanted had to have minimum 90 guests (130 invited) so yeah it adds up

[Asker]

Look at all that money that can be saved. We're not talking about $5 or $100. We're talking about a whopping $35K at minimum! Just wow!

[LordSnuggles]

Because I love my girlfriend and no amount of incel propaganda is going to change a man's commitment to his girl. I mean, all of this looks on it in the worst possible way that it's difficult to take seriously. It's like saying, "why do people still work out? It just hurts your body, you can get injured, sick, gym memberships are so expensive, and you'll probably get fat anyway. What's the point?" it's purely biased and a bit of a joke. Family benefits society and the economy. We should be promoting the family as well as fitness. For their difficulties, we benefit as a whole from it. All of your "points" crumble if you select your partner wisely which I think is the funniest part of all. Perhaps you couldn't manage it, therefore the system is broken and rigged against you. Just silly.

[Asker]

Oh you won't believe me but even the most loving girlfriend can stab you in the back. Let me know when you'll have marriage problems and then when you'll get divorced. I'll buy you a crate of beer for that.

[LordSnuggles]

You're projecting your failings and fears man. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. You don't care how many marriages succeed. But if one fails it must mean you're right. See how that works? How flawed this way of thinking is?

[Asker]

50% of marriages fail. Statistics don't lie unless they're pulled out from someone's ass.

[LordSnuggles]

And 50% succeed. So in at least half of cases you're wrong, but go on about it anyway. Not a good track record. That means at least half are working out laughing at your ranting.

[DWD1994]

This isn't incel propaganda. Marriage screws men over.

[LordSnuggles]

Except for the happily married ones

[DWD1994]

Also deflecting by saying "50% of marriage succeed" isn't a good argument.

Think of it this way. Imagine you had a bowl of m&m's and 10% of the m&m's were poisonous. Would you still grab a handful? After all, not ALL of them are poisonous.

(FYI, I'm not against dating. I date but I dont marry)

[LordSnuggles]

That's an even worse analogy because people and relationships are not simple to be boiled down to a statistical chance. Plenty of people are happily married despite all these supposed pitfalls. They chose their partners well. Choosing a good partner eliminates any of these issues. Married people live longer, they're happier, they're less likely to be poor. Despite all the poisons of marriage. All the evils. Somehow, someway, people find themselves happily married. How is that. Are they cheating? Did they hack the system? How in the world is it possible when marriage is to bad and so wrought with failure and nothing but a burden on men. Doesn't add up.

[Truthatanycost]

@DWD1994 The irony of calling it incel propaganda is that getting married is one of the best ways to have less sex.

[Asker]

@Truthatanycost and running into poverty and bankruptcy with the cut throat collectors threatening you to beat your broke ass until your skin turns purple.

[Truthatanycost]

Yep. One day I bumped into an old friend and he was smiling and all happy. Said he'd met a woman and moved in with her. From what I remember, they weren't married but I could be wrong. About a year or two later I saw him around and he said he was living with his parents.

I asked him what happened to his house? he said his girlfriend was living in it. Not sure about the details.

Given the gym analogy... if he'd gone that route, he'd probably still have a roof over his head.

[humanearth]

Who says you need a piece of paper. Its just for the governments to make money off your sorry ass.

oureverydaylife.com/...riage-licenses-6644194.html

[Asker]

I know right?

[Anonymous]

This girl at this office job was asking me why I wasn't married, and told me all of the good stuff I was missing out on. She said she loved her husband and she'd been happily married for many years...

Then a few months later she mentioned that because of her out of control spending, shoe shopping, ornaments and other crap... that her husband had to work to pay of debt... and to add insult to injury, she asked me for my phone number.

Wtf...

[Asker]

She's a disaster. Holy shit man!

[Opinion Owner]

She comes in to work wearing trousers that are so tight, I fear for her circulation. Then she came over showing me a video of herself doing yoga in the garden. Glad she's not my problem lol.

[Asker]

Yikes. Dude, why are you dealing with her? Do you work with her still?

[Opinion Owner]

She occasionally works near my area, and on rare occasions worked with me for a short time.

[Asker]

She's no good

[Opinion Owner]

I haven't met even one married woman that showed any loyalty or boundaries. Every single one of them just followed their emotion / needs or desire. This is a pattern I've noticed over the years.

[Asker]

Just wow man.

[EpicDweeb]

People get divorced cause they started making the mistake of basing marriage just on love. Marriage works best if both parties just work well as people. Think of it as lifelong business partners who can support each other in their pursuits and also have some amazing sex from time to time. The purpose of marriage has been lost on most people which is why it doesn't work well. The fault is not in marriage but in the way we treat it and the way we find marriage partners nowadays.

[HOAAH]

Young but wise, you are

[EpicDweeb]

@HOAAH Thank you :) I sincerely appreciate it.

[Anonymous]

Yes it's a huge scam a big part of the problem is no one tells men how horrible the laws are to men about marriage.

The laws of divorce and marriage are so fuckup many people don't even believe them if you tell them they think it cannot be true a woman can just get bored of you and the horse you and you have to pay her alimony for life.

[Asker]

It's all so until it's too late. Those SoBs can't be saved. Oh well. It's their problem, not mine!

[InfobotsMom]

Maybe you should just not get married and not worry about what other men decide to do? 🤔

I mean, I think you worry too much about things outside of your own life. Maybe get a hobby 👍

[Asker]

Meh. I still like to look at "what if" things like that, so that I learn from the mistakes of others rather than doing the mistake myself.

[Kitty46]

I don’t know if I want to get married, what wrong with living with your boyfriend? I rather live with him than married him.

[Asker]

What's your reason? Marriage has so many benefits for you women.

[Exorcist_Rampage]

Not all women mistreat men in this manner and some women are flat out ashamed that members of their own sex are making a mockery of marriage.

We have some of the most beautiful women on g@g and I'm fairly sure a good number of women would not screw over a man even for personal gain or to get back at him for doing her wrong. She is mature enough to see the evil structure and doesn't handle things that way.

[Meditatingsquirrel79]

It's just like when people starting a new thing to do. Marriage. Everybody in my family is married. I am not. No children too. It is a trap. Once married, you're in a Prison Cell. Then after years, not. Divorcing. That's worse.

[Anonymous]

Then don’t get married. What other people choose to do with their relationships really isn’t any of your concern, it’s sad that you would waste your time evening thinking about it.

[Opinion Owner]

Good for you.

[CasaNorba]

they are idiots!

like Einstein once said, stupidy has no limits

[DDpsy]

Indeed.. Let's not forget that even that guy was a wreck when it comes to relationships with women.

[sejla]

@DDpsy Didn't he cheat on his wife?

[UncleTouchyFingers]

I definitely think it is because a lot of men are desperate. It is very sad that they cannot control themselves.

[Anonymous]

Some of the community here is seriously bitter huh?

You poor sod.

[sejla]

And bitter so young. It took me decades to get half way bitter then I let it go.

[PondyPand]

or because most men don't have trust issues to such incel degrees.

[DWornock]

The reason men continue to marry is because there is always a large supply of young men that lack the experience or they are unaware of the disadvantages.

[Liam_Hayden]

Man or woman, whichever earns substantially more than the betrothed, is an idiot to marry in any no-fault state.

[NerdInDenial]

There's great societal pressures to get married and settle down.

[Asker]

How about they start going against it? Women did it with feminism. Now it's our turn.

[NerdInDenial]

They can, but they won't. You see the other comments; they use the shaming tactics against men who do not want to conform to society's expectations. Some men are ready to see the harsh realities, while many just want to drink the Kool-aid. I don't blame them for going with the status quo; it's just easier.

[Asker]

Ah, so they are pussy whipped. There's no saving them then. Well, at least we get to see it rather than to experience it first hand.

Maybe men became even weaker than the women if women achieved feminism. What the hell happened? Men can't fight for their rights anymore. My goodness!

[NerdInDenial]

The government is a huge obstacle; the MRA has mostly failed. There's no point in fighting; just find your own path and reach self-actualization.

[Asker]

Ah, yeah. Our brethren from MRA. How unfortunate. Guess there's really no way but to disconnect from the system and the government as much as possible. How sad but true.

[esotericstory]

Men do it in my country because otherwise they dont have the same parental rights as the mother.

[2os4ngeles]

A wedding ring is supposed to be quite the lady magnet...

[bamesjond0069]

Why dont y'all get a prenup and marry a virgin church girl? This is how you have a good marriage. Thats why i dont date hos.

[Truthatanycost]

Prenups can be thrown out of court. As for marrying a church girl, a lot of them are just pretending. I saw a girl comment on a Youtube video saying that she was a virgin and how proud her husband was to have married one.

But she said she couldn't stop wondering about other men so was in the process of convincing her husband to move to a bigger city so she could have more options to cheat with.

Who knows how many others think the same way.

[bamesjond0069]

@Truthatanycost that's nonsense. Virgins are not fantasizing about men and hoping to cheat. You don't really understand the human brain very well. But ok believe one anonymous comment online that its typical. How many virgin girls have you fucked that cheated on you? None i ever did cheated. A couple of sluts did but not most, most sluts didn't either. But no virgins did. So they are definitely less likely in my experience to do such a thing.

[mensasnem]

Men marry because it gives them access to eggs. Yes, women have the power because they have the eggs and there's is no shortage of sources for baby sauce.

[nerms123]

I actually don’t know why they do it lol

[Anonymous]

Or why they EVER did?

[Anonymous]

That's so true dude.