Men.Fought and died in wars (frankly for nothing long term unfortunately). So that we have these things going on now. We got plenty of respectless simps and cuckolds, who adore the ground, that the pinks walk on and buy their used bath water and underwear. Simps worship the bad girls, who couldn't care less about him.The patriarchy was destroyed. This is what we are left with. The underground of men is the last stand, that we're left with. Some went rogue, some went MGTOW but most of all they have fallen Bruno Mars Grenade style.Girls don't have respect for you if you don't have any respect yourselves. The choice is yours alone to make.
Simps - the real definition of the word - need to have more respect for themselves if they want respect from respectable women. Everybody deserves respect for being human, yeah, but in reality in this life respect is earned, especially if you want more of it.
When I say "the real definition of the word," yes I mean the REAL definition, as in putting women (or anybody) on a big pedestal and making your whole entire life revolve around that. Be prepared to get hurt by doing that too. Same goes for us as well; it's a negative for both genders. And I specify that because many men who ARE simps want to make it look like chivalrous men are the simps. No. Ever notice how men who use terms like "simp" and "fuckboy" usually ARE the simps? Not that the words don't have meanings because they do. but chivalrous men tend to get the women, and sure, throw bad boys in there too because who doesn't love some confidence. (Not smart on our part - speaking of women - but hey, let's be honest.) What the simps call "simps" though is another story: it's an average guy who can't be a bad boy and doesn't want to be chivalrous so therefore he gets no women.
So, you want the truth? Either be a gentleman and earn the respect or be a bad boy and go after the disrespectful women. Either of those two will get you a good amount of women. And if you're good-looking then by all means pick one or the other. Make up your mind which one you want because you can't be one then try to turn to the other and be liked the same (like bad boys who wanna all of a sudden turn good in their 30s). That'll only get you more disrespect. But the point is: you can't not respect yourself and revolve your life around everyone else and expect respect from other people. Being a gentleman will get you respect of the ladies who want a good relationship, and being a bad boy will get you the respect of whores who want nothing but a confident ride. Being a "simp" and sucking up to everybody will get you nowhere. So pick one: chivalry or badass?
As far as what I as a woman respect: I respect a gentleman. He respects himself, he respects other people (this includes women), he respects tradition, and he demands a partner of the same demeanor and same self-respect in return.
Real simps are the ones who end up going MGTOW too because usually somewhere in the middle there's a stage of either hurt and shame or incel life (involuntary celibacy). Although I do know a gay guy who is MGTOW lol
MGTOW is mostly gay anyways, it's clear they hate women. However, If a guy were truly chivalrous would he get multiple women? Attract multiple women sure, but getting and or using them takes away the title and then he is the bad guy. Of course not all relationships work out, but when people engage in modern relationships they can't be chivalrous long. You have to play by an entirely different set of rules.
@Gravit1 Maintaining chivalry / being a gentleman and using the women are two complete polar opposites. Yes, a man who is known for his respect to both himself and others and known to be a gentleman usually has women begging for him. The negative of this for him is that he doesn’t truly know if the woman he chooses is what he demands or not until a date or two in because anybody can put on a show, and unless she’s absolutely known to be a whore then he has no way of knowing the difference in if she’s a hardcore feminist or a more feminine woman. So being a gentleman can be risky, no doubt, but I’d say it pays off overall because he ends up with the kind of woman he wanted that he otherwise wouldn’t have gotten. Plus being a gentleman is usually like me being traditional - it’s a way we were raised and we grow up on it.
If I said he would “get” women and it sounded like that I’m sorry, that’s not what I meant. I meant “get” as in he would be able to have the kind of woman he demands.
Fair enough, I took your wording wrong. The difference is those that gripe about their lack of physical entanglements often hold the same lack of honor as those who have many. They're most often complaining about their inability to degrade themselves, but given the opportunity they just as quickly would, because they have no honor and have no regard for God. Some revel in in their lack of honor and others wish to remove it from people. Ultimately all of that mentality falls under a lack of honor and through comparing and envying other's lives. There can only be one wife, but as time goes on people gain new friends, though the level of friendship will be extremely limited once the highest level is achieved. People opposed to this feel entitled to entanglements as some kind of ego stroke and power show, that is inherent to Sin Nature.
Why does it always do the skin tone thing? Is that a glitch? Is that supposed to be a different skin toned ok gesture? I always see a random square saying skin tone, was the hand supposed to be this color?
“Real simps are the ones who end up going MGTOW too because usually somewhere in the middle there's a stage of either hurt and shame or incel life (involuntary celibacy).” I'm MGTOW cause if the followin reasons A) When I was in my mid teens, I usually have a somewhat Anti conventionalism/Anti group think philosophical mindset B) Movies, TV shows, Reality shows, Music, Every bunch of nonsense I observed seemed to Psychologically brainwash men to believe: •women are the ultimate •Men can't live without em •Therefore, it's a tragedy if you don't get one
Well, I wasn't that type of relationship guy, I'm an introvert by the way, So your argument falls by the wayside, And I've not been rejected cause I saw puttin efforts into AsKinG oUt as Straight up conventional stupidity anyway Coupled with my mindset, I was unapologetically apathetic to that, Now, I used experience situations where my fellow male classmates would fight, steal from each other, or even severe their friendships
... I couldn't just understand how men are just so stupid, mad, brainless, useless, Absurd, demented bastards and S-I-M-PS just cause of women When I got into research, I find out that in LTRs, Men are usually the ones that mostly meet demise For example Men are more likely to commit suicide after a break-up Men take longer to get over a break-up Throughout history, men are more persecuted when they decide to drop women and Society, eg in Rome and Bachelor taxes, Cause of course the goal to to make men blind and stupid slaves Men are more likely to get married after a divorce Men are more virgin shamed Married men are happier than single men, These I've stated above are the other way round for women
I came to a “theo-practical” conclusion that
✓Men are more socially brainwashed to see women as the ultimate, The prices and Apex of their value, ✓If this occurs, Then it leads to Mental slavery and men seeing women as the peak
✓Therefore, Most of the problems men face in life especially in Relationships, doesn't come from women, Rather, From how the place women on a pedestal.
I'm MGTOW cause it's the most rational revived philosophy of this age. Not your assertion, Which is wrong.
“MGTOW is mostly gay anyways,” I'm straighter than a ruler lol “ it's clear they hate women.” There's a in difference between indifference and hate Unless you're going to r/MGTOW (which isn't a MGTOW subreddit) Go to r/MGTOW 2
A MGTOW can't be a Misogynist, It's just Antithetical to MGTOW, cause the focus is on women
@TheLeeyo The fact you had to direct people away from the version of MGTOW you disagree with, shows that version of MGTOW exist. Also according to you it's the first one, so you haven't disproven anything. You've have arbitrarily show that there are variations in MGTOW, but not that there isn't substantial amount of Gays or Women hating individuals. And hoew can you claim to be straight and indifferent to women? You could be asexual, but being straight would mean you're attracted to women, so there can't be indifference. Some reason you resist the natural desire to be with women. You claim it's indifference, not hatred. That is not consistent with being straight, perhaps asexual, but not straight. Maybe you don't even know why you resist.
“ The fact you had to direct people away from the version of MGTOW you disagree with, shows that version of MGTOW exist.”
Nope, There are indeed different “versions” of MGTOW
Rangin from gays, straights, asexuals, teens, middle aged men, business men, STEMS, Celibates.. etc..
But certainly not MiSoGyNists Cause asi said earlier, Misogyny is the very anti thesis of MGTOW The focus is on women
“ Also according to you it's the first one, so you haven't disproven anything. You've have arbitrarily show that there are variations in MGTOW, but not that there isn't substantial amount of Gays or Women hating individuals.”
This is just an hypocritically absurd statement You made a claim that MGTOW are mostly gays And you gave no evidence. A claim made without evidence can be dismissed and made invalid with or without evidence My evidence is r/MGTOW2 subreddit
“And hoew can you claim to be straight and indifferent to women? You could be asexual, but being straight would mean you're attracted to women, so there can't be indifference.” Simply say YOU are attracted to women and YOU CAN'T be indifferent to women Stop tryin to impose your infirmities on me This is somethin you bluepillers are fund of sayin ThErE iS nO wAy A mAn CaN lIvE wItHoUt WoMeN Nonsense...
@Gravit1 ... In reality, Men don't really need to be with a woman to experience "Love" I'd explain that Now LoVe is not somethin so "unique" or "special" It's just another chemical in our brains.
Now we'd go through processes that accompany emotions, Let's Embarrassment as an example, Complex biological processes occur The hypothalamus located in your brain is a little drug factory, It makes small string amino acids that our body can become addicted to. Now, you feel the emotion of being embarrassed.
The hypothalamus releases small string amino acids in response to your emotional reaction, the feeling of embarrassment. These small string amino acids make their way into your blood stream with a specific purpose and intent They are encoded to cause the blood vessels in your cheeps to expand, to take on more blood so that your cheeks look like they flush—blushing. This is why when you embarrass someone, they blush moments later So the small string amino acids are messengers to cause your cheeks to blush, but, you can become physically addicted to these small string amino acids. Now, what is emotional need? I would assert that emotional need is really a physical and emotional need, what small string amino acids you are physically addicted to, and what emotions are required to illicit the release of those specific small string amino acids. The same process, along with dopamine release occurs when one takes drugs accompanied with euphoria (Happiness) an addiction Love is therefore the physical addiction of the emotions you have that release specific small string amino acids, or let's say, your physical and emotional addictions...
@Gravit1 ... Your brain exists in pure darkness. If your brain was disconnected from your body, placed in a black box and connected to a computer that could stimulate those parts of your brain that your senses normally would, then you are stimulated to release the same small string amino acids that are released when you interact with real live people, Then where is love created?
It's created in your brain
If your emotions are elicited by a computer program, or by a human being, or by an animal, or a story you read, or a movie you watch, What is the difference? The only difference is which small string amino acids you are physically addicted to. So, literally, anything in your environment that causes you to have any emotion, which releases small string amino acids, you can become physically addicted to. In fact, you can "fall in love" with whatever, wether it'd be a plant, a computer program, artificial intelligence, an object like a rock or car, or a human being. It just so happens we can communicate in more different ways with other human beings than with anything else so there are more oppurtunities to release small string amino acids in doing so, than in any other situation...
@Gravit1 ... Unless you were removed from interacting with human beings, this is what sometimes happens to people who live apart from society, they feel these emotional attachments for animals, or nature, or other things. It even goes deeper. If you are able to communicate with AI in the same way you are able with a human, then the AI has just as much opportunity to make a physical and emotional connection with you as a real live human being might. In fact, this is starting to take place in Japan The Japanese men who prefer virtual girlfriends to sex...
You can redirect the effects of "Love" to attachments with other things You can "Love" Videogames, Philosophy, Books, Music, Art, Science, Sports, Food, TV, Business, Makin money, goals.. etc Anythin!! Nullify the "I Need A Woman to be Happy" mindset You don't need women to "be in love" Infact, platonic Relationships with fellow boys are more Emotionally stabilizin, happier and fulfillin than with women Bromance>>>Romance •SEX? MGTOW doesn't mean no sex. One can still have sex, But it's no protected no strings attached sex and not much hassle for em. It's just a small fraction that are Voluntary Celibates, Monk Mode. They can be men that keep platonic Relationships with women or just shut out women altogether it's just a matter of one's choice.
However, Sexual Urges, Sex drive, libido or whatever can still be controlled, curbed or even destroyed. Like Semen Retention done at extreme stages could literally annihilate your sex drive, A vegan lifestyle helps curb urges, chemical castration is possible. Sex ain't a big issue here.
Therefore, it's very possible to be COMPLETELY indifferent to women
Newton was no Asexual, yet a virgin till death. Infact, he fell in love with a pigeon...
@Gravit1 ...“Some reason you resist the natural desire to be with women.” I'd say I brutally murdered it. I'm not the kind of person that struggles with things, I just eliminate em.
I'm a vegan tho.
“You claim it's indifference, not hatred.”
You first said MGTOWs hate women. That's a rebuttal to that claim.
@TheLeeyo It's a fact that MGTOW is gays and incels. That's proven every time you meet somebody form MGTOW. Men can live without women and women can leave without men. Most people are normal and choose to appreciate each other though. The problem is when one takes advantage of the other, like in feminism. I'm a woman and I hate feminism. But even feminists... they still get into relationships with men. Because they're normal human beings lol (except for their insanity to take advantage of men but I think you see my point) Yes, we CAN live without each other, but we choose not to. Unless, of course, we feel unwanted by the other gender and need back-up because we can't speak for ourselfves so we call ourselves something like MGTOW :)
The real conclusion I'm seeing here is that you're just crazy and abnormal. A crazy and abnormal individual can't speak for the whole species. Sorry bro.
So you're also mentally retarded too? (No, I don't mean that offensively. Forgive me if I sound offensive.) I mean really... because you just quoted him and you said “You claim it's indifference, not hatred.”
You first said MGTOWs hate women. That's a rebuttal to that claim.
Uhhmmm, that's his point. LOL He's saying that YOU "CLAIM" it's not hatred and that it's indifference but he's saying that it IS hatred. So he's right and he didn't contradict himself. But considering that you come across as mentally ill, this explains a lot lol
Well, I was gonna try to help, but for somebody who's abnormal and mentally ill that's not my specialty and I'm not a therapist so have at it.
“ It's a fact that MGTOW is gays and incels.” *Your assumption, And not true.
“ That's proven every time you meet somebody form MGTOW. ” What?
On the MGTOW subreddit I'm in, I meet asexuals or even MGTOW PUAS there MGTOW is a mixed multitude Misogynists of course are treated like outcasts r/MGTOW2 is an example. Maybe you could call r/MGTOW. And a MGTOW can't be an Incel and vice versa Infact MGTOWs and Incels are somewhat confrontational One camp believes that women don't define men's worth, The other asserts worthlessness in not being able to get women Me, I DON'T CARE WETHER I GET WOMEN or not...
...“Men can live without women and women can leave without men.” True that, as long as it's true.
“Most people are normal and choose to appreciate each other though.” A man can still appreciate his fellow man platonically So he's still “normal” I do that. However, In areas of no real mental infirmity,“Normal/abnormal” is subjective.
“The problem is when one takes advantage of the other, like in feminism. I'm a woman and I hate feminism. But even feminists...”
Yeah and you'd curse em a million times too I know.
“ they still get into relationships with men. Because they're normal human beings lol (except for their insanity to take advantage of men but I think you see my point) Yes, we CAN live without each other, but we choose not to. Unless, of course, we feel unwanted by the other gender and need back-up because we can't speak for ourselfves so we call ourselves something like MGTOW " My reason for goin MGTOW isn't cause I felt “unwanted” I didn't want to feel “Wanted” in the first place and I disbelief in placin my validation and value on someone
I want myself please.
“The real conclusion I'm seeing here is that you're just crazy and abnormal. A crazy and abnormal individual can't speak for the whole species. Sorry bro.” “Crazy and abnormal” is subjective in this case, but I can as well turn around and say you're crazy and abnormal cause the whole essence of life is on a future husband. You'd still struggle for all the unnecessaries in life, Waste your time adherin to society, Shacklin yourself in a relationship.
At last, you'd end up cruisin with worms underground
Me I'm choosin my own way and principles to adhere to And I do things on my own terms. And live a happier, more fufilled life *In an Atheist's voice* "I am my own god" So much for CrAzY aNd aBnOrMaL Maybe you spelled Freethought and Freedoms wrongly lol.
Matthew 19: 4 - 6 (4) Jesus answered, “Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ (5) and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’ (6) So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."
The patriarchy was destroyed. This is what we are left with. The underground of men is the last stand, that we're left with. Some went rogue, some went MGTOW but most of all they have fallen Bruno Mars Grenade style.
lol. i feel like this could be a great caption for a post-apocaplytic social comedy.
i don't understand all your fancy new internet lingo, but i think, in general, yes. men these days are guilt-tripped to the high heavens if they have any boundaries, they need to submit to female entitlement constantly. they are usually painted as the bad guy if they don't, or have to deal with sex withholding or other abusive behaviors from their woman/women
It's true. Sometimes I get angry about women who humiliate and cuckold their husbands. I also dislike the men who get pleasure out of dominating other men by sleeping with their wives. In reality it's the cucks that need to be slapped or fucking locked away in a mental hospital. Some men and women will always be evil and degrade others, but it's the cucks that are really responsible and need to man up. They are the only reason white women get away with this shit.
The apparent connection between cuckoldry and the general decline of modern man is clear and unmistakable, but that doesn't mean there aren't some valuable benefits to be had from this kind of lifestyle. I believe that many of the undesirable conditions you have highlighted are arguably the result of the unending war of attrition being waged against the entire Western world and men in particular -- from what passes for higher education, governmental and corporate policy wonks and of course, the single greatest enemy we've ever faced as a nation -- the media.
My hubs fought in the GWOT and did two tours in Iraq. He likes to watch me get fucked. I think that what gets you off in your own private sex life can indicate your level of "manliness" as you suggest, but not necessarily. There will always be enough men to fight and defend what we have. Our problems are the elites that lead us and who never fight - they get us into problems our war fighters - however manly they are - cannot get us out of.
Realistically none of us are as tough as the older generations. We had no reason to be, no real obstacles to overcome. That being said the rise of simps is kind of sad. It's ridiculous that relatively average looking women can get rich just taking nude/semi nude pictures and posting them online.
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I think this hole cuckold and simp thing has just been blown put of perportion. There has always been cucking it's not like its a new thing we just now have porn so people are more aware of it.
And simps paying for porn was the norm for the longest time so paying for porn isn't new.
Yes they are. There is no masculinity or self-respect in them. They are a disgrace to true masculinity and integrity. And yes, they ARE the fall of men. It's dudes like those that contribute to the degenerecy of (western) civilization.
Most cuckold porn is about the cuck knowing and approving, maybe even encouraging her, that seems to be a lifestyle choice, the real cuckold is more like she is cheating behind his back or if he knows can't stop it, it is two entirely different things. I have been in both types, I had a wife that enjoyed black cock, something I can't provide for her so I let her go out and get what she needed then she would come home and life would be normal until she needed another fix, she never lied, always told me where she was going and where she had been, never a problem for us. The other was my first wife and we were young, she was always looking for fun, she would sneak around, lie about where she was going, etc. Not a good relationship.
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Other men dont define me. Neither do bitches. We can't control others so focus on yourself and your relationship
Its funny about the whole patriarchy thing. Without it we'd be living in grass huts. When shit breaks down and it becomes hard to actually survive these females will realize why we were in charge in the first place. All it takes is a hard reality to return to where we came. and its coming soon I'm sure
Yeah, incels ad cucks are often not considered as "men" and most women don't fall for them. So your last sentence doesn't fit the people OP is talking about.
@TruthBringer I agree. That was my point. Regardless of the existence of incels and cuckholds, they will never be the fall of men. Exactly because they are not really men in the first place.
@thisismyopinion I see your point. However, the problem is that more and more simps and incels are becoming a reality. If it keeps going the way it does, then there will not be many real men left. This could lead to the fall of men in general.
@TruthBringer youean men will have less power due to the increase of those type of guys? Hope it never reaches that point. Our generation is on the verge of teaching the next generation and I hope we do a good job.
Can you imagine being the son in a family, where the father is a cuckold and he teaches his son the way of simping e. g. He tells him to focus on making tons of money only to hand it to the careless girls and then he says "this is you providing for your girl"? Simps do exactly that.
@Unit1 cuckholding is more of a sexual thing isn't it? Where the guys looks at his wife having sex with another dude? I don't think that is something they teach their kids. Even if you mean a guy who kisses the floor that the women steps on I would fear that is not the father who will teach him to be submissive to women. His mother will.
Aye. Sucks to be that guy. Normalizing homosexuality is one thing. But cuckolding is pure degeneracy. I remember one argument was given by a cuckold and he said "she won't feel the need to cheat on you" like bitch, she's already having "your permission to cheat on you" (it's not like she even needs permission), so like what's the difference 🙄
And some mothers raise their boys to be like simps and be taken advantage of by gold diggers? Not that I know. Just speculating. Usually mothers would look out for their kids.
Always shame a simp or a cuck for being a simp or a cuck. This is an effective way to set an example for other (young) men not to become like them. It is also an attempt to wake the person up and see their own flaws. Plenty of simps that have quit acting like a simp. That gives me hope
@thisismyopinion Depends on the context. In many cases, men are being victimized. It is up to the man to role in as a victim or not. I choose personally not to.
@TruthBringer I see it being beneficial either ways.
If someone's a simp, they'll devalue themselves and that makes for less competition for us. If we helped them out of simping and into the way of a normal man, then good, we helped out a fellow brother, who needed to be shown the way. Less simping one man at a time (and 3 more because people won't stop giving birth and raising simps).
@Unit1 Yeah I've also looked at it that way. The problem however is that it's thanks to simping that women are becoming overly entitled and arrogant. To a point that many men (even high quality ones) aren't willing to do deal with. And I perfectly understand it
@TruthBringer Well, it's not like we're gonna reduce the amounts of hoes if we shame simping and ban OnlyFans. Hoes will be hoes. The good women will find a way to separate themselves from it. The few women I talk to I asked them "Do you love money?" I got in response "I work for it" and they speak for nobody else. And of course these ladies are already married.
@thisismyopinion I would hate to be living in America for many things. Including the entitled women. Seems like it's very bad over there. Here in the Netherlands, it's a bit on the better side, but still not great
@TruthBringer I am from Portugal. I am married so I don't really feel much how it is here anymore. While I was dating, well honestly I never found any girl who made me say "Crazy bitch". But I was probably lucky.
I usually respect anyone choices but yes this shit is super cringe, these the types of men who would literally throw away 1000 thousands of dollars to women than complain about being broke. I am thinking to myself what you expect you gave a girl all of your money, you put that problem on yourself.
Simps are as old as history itself. According to the Bible, for example, Adam acted like a simp. He couldn't say no to her when Eve gave him the fruit to eat. If you read the Bible, the rest is history...
@1truekhaleesi Lol... And only reason he would use a quote from somebody else (can't even say it himself) is if what you said offended him and was therefore true.
@TheLeeyo Maybe that was her reason for her comment, I don't know... But Fixing simps will only get themselves out of that. Real men don’t subject themselves to women :) Simps don’t make or break other men. Actually, they make it easier on the real men if you think about it because women won’t go for simps and the real men have less competition. Read what the other guys said. They said the same thing; it’s true.
Anyways, yeah, sorry for being intrusive but that was my only point.
“you are a member of mgtow” One can't be a “member” or “part” of MGTOW MGTOW decentralized and just a philosophy, NOT A movement or club You can only be a MGTOW Or live MGTOW The Same way is more rational to say you're a Christian or an Atheist NOT a member of Christians and Atheists
Your statement shows you don't know anything about MGTOW to start with. “ Don't say that doesn't mean you hate women.” Imposin opinion Fallacy I'm a MGTOW and I don't hate women You made an opposin claim Well prove it Your statement still stands INVALID.
“You're general attitude and cynicism says otherwise”
@TheLeeyo And in today's society women don't really need men. Most people are NORMAL, though, and have what's called a "sex drive" plus nature and yeah that's where being normal comes in. Sounds like you wouldn't know, like you just hate women period so therefore you're an exception so I can see why women don't find you attractive. But regardless, if you wanna live a life without women go ahead. You're the oddball in the circle, that's the point. And simps are men who constantly try to please women above all else. A gentleman who tries to please his girl who also pleases him because it's a mutual passion is an example of a man who can get pussy, something you know nothing about.
“And in today's society women don't really need men. ”
But I still keep on hearin “A Real Man would..(+what men should do for women), still enforcin old trad roles But of course a Real woman is one that drops those roles
@TheLeeyo That "bait and switch" tactic only works with feminists. You can't speak for the whole gender on that - or even the majority of it. There is no bait and switch in reality. I grew up on hearing, "A real woman would..." So you're not very knowledgeable. But why do I take hearing that as a good thing? Because I want to please the man I marry and I want to better myself. That's why. Everything you're saying proves it. lol And we don't need each other, and society takes advantage of that and feminists and males go against each other like crazy, which is ridiculous. I'd do anything in the world for my man (I guess I'm a simp too, to you, so Idc) but if he had even a slight tint of your attitude we wouldn't be together at all; I would avoid him. Does he beg on his knees for me? Hell no. He's a MAN. But does he do small things for me? Yep. Just like I do for him. He's a MAN, not a simp or a weenie woman-hater. You said, "I'm sick of seein stupid men." Then it might help if you stop being one. Like attracts like, and you might wanna take that mirror off the wall. Adios
@Yads_Is_Back “That "bait and switch" tactic only works with feminists. You can't speak for the whole gender on that - or even the majority of it. There is no bait and switch in reality.”
I didn't say All women say that. I said what is being said.
“I grew up on hearing, "A real woman would..." So you're not very knowledgeable. But why do I take hearing that as a good thing? Because I want to please the man I marry and I want to better myself. That's why.” A Real woman is used in terms of female Independence and not servin men While a Real man is used in what men should do or be, JUST FOR WOMEN.
For example "A Real can do it by herself, but a Real man won't let her” “The Real power of a man is the big smile of the Real woman sittin right next to him” (Affixatin men's value on Gynocentrism) “A Real woman breaks old and regressive traditional roles”
Whereas...
"Only a real man can handle enough flesh"
"Only a real man can take care of another man's kids without making any fuss about it"
"Only a real man will sponsor a woman without expecting anything In return "
You know where this is heading to? The term real man is a shaming tactics invented by women, for women to constantly compel you into taking all of their bulshits.
You know who's a real man?
A REAL MAN IS A MAN WHO DOESN'T GIVE ANY STRAIGHT FUCK ABOUT WHAT ANY WOMAN THINKS HE HAS TO DO (for her ofcourse) TO EARN THE GOOD GUY TAG.
It simply to exploit those conservative roots for men only cause they know it's what sustains Society, and of course women mostly benefit from it For example Majority of the tax payer programs go to women Majority of tax is collected from men Government benefits, majority to women Government benefits, majority from men The “Independent women” line is simply to prevent men from seeing that they're in bondage And also like reverse psychology. When Society now says how men are “obsolete”,“not needed”, Well some idiots will hop onto the bandwagon to prove that women need men or men are still needed The immense stupidity perpetuates...
Infact a Real man is one that doesn't care about Society's demise.
“Everything you're saying proves it. lol And we don't need each other, and society takes advantage of that and feminists and males go against each other like crazy, which is ridiculous. I'd do anything in the world for my man (I guess I'm a simp too, to you, so Idc) but if he had even a slight tint of your attitude we wouldn't be together at all; I would avoid him. Does he beg on his knees for me? Hell no. He's a MAN. But does he do small things for me? Yep. Just like I do for him. He's a MAN, not a simp or a weenie woman-hater.” Yes, and you'd take em on trips, He would take ya, You would line happily ever after I Know, it's alright, nice choice.
“You said, "I'm sick of seein stupid men." Then it might help if you stop being one. Like attracts like, and you might wanna take that mirror off the wall.”
Another resort to ridicule lol. Infact bye already.
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