



I hate it when Karens say things like "men shouldn't be making laws about women's bodies."
Here's some feminist logic, for everyone. If we live in a "patriarchy" and men shouldn't be making laws about women's bodies, then women shouldn't have any power, whatsoever. They shouldn't be speaking when not spoken to. They shouldn't doing things outside of the kitchen. They shouldn't be having jobs or driving on their own, or going anywhere without a man's permission. They shouldn't even be complaining about the supposed "lack of rights" they already virtually everywhere outside of the Middle East.
We can agree to only let women make women's laws, but at the same time, women should also only do "women duties:" cooking, cleaning, and popping out babies. I have a funny feeling they won't agree to that fair compromise, though.
So... We can either live like adults and stop basing laws and our ways of society on dumb-ass anecdotal evidence ("only x can understand x"), or we can be stupid-ass, useless fucking feminists who literally achieve nothing noteworthy or positive for any single person in society, like failing to understand basic logic about the world and how it works, while being given EVERYTHING and still bitching about it. Upper middle class, college "educated" white women are literally the most protected class on Earth besides the super-rich. And they still bitch about every-fucking-thing.
Also, if men control women's bodies, then why don't would-be fathers have literally ANY reproductive rights, or any legal persuasion about abortion? I mean, it's not like women can reproduce asexually and all (as much as feminist Karens would love that). Maybe the government (men) aren't controlling women's bodies after all? Maybe it's just another stupid silly distraction, just like all the other hot button issues they push out there every year. Nah, that's silly! Why would all the Karens out there complain about something that's never going to be repealed?
So you felt like the question was aimed at you and you wrote a long ass rant. That only anwers my question perfectly.
by the way you are using the term "Karen" incorrectly.
I don't want kids and I'm not even pursuing women now, but nice dodging of any of the points made there. You can tell someone's a real Big Brain when they reply to someone and have fuck all to actually say. So thank you for showing the world your intellectual depth. Which is literally none.
I seriously doubt anyone would want to have kids with you, so this also shouldn't be an issue that concerns you, either.
Wanna cookie for being so "smart" big guy? 😂 You are really not. And most of what you wrote just proves that. The reason I didn't reflect on every single bs is because I am not gonna waste my time analyzing all that nonsense. There's no point.
"I seriously doubt anyone would want to have kids with you, so this also shouldn't be an issue that concerns you, either"
You can't even make a "point" without getting personal. 😂😂😂 Says a lot about you.
They are not. Your demanding that you should have the right to murder some one else who isn't you i. e. not your body, and that some one else is the child of the man which you are saying should be forced to stand their and watch as you murder his child while telling him it doesn't affect him (even though again, you are murdering his child) and thus he doesn't get a say in whether or not you murder his child. That is not controlling women's bodies, you dont' get pregnant by magic and their are multiple different forms of birth control out their so you have literally no excuse for getting pregnant except that either you wanted to get pregnant (in which case you have no reason to murder your child), or you where simply to stupid and immature to use contraceptive and practice safe sex and to except the responsibilities that come with it (in which case you should not be having sex). its a really straight forward situation.
Guess you never took a sed ex class. It shows dude.
That is the stupidest comment I have ever heard. Are you insane? Are you suggesting that women just spontaneously get pregnant? Are you seriously trying to argue that?
Do you even have a brain?
Yes, its quite large, why? Again, what is your argument? Are you arguing that women have absolutely no control over pregnancy? Are you arguing that babies are not in fact alive and human? What is the argument your trying to make? So far as I can tell its that you want to do what ever you want, whenever you want, and never ever be held accountable for your actions. So far your argument has been that you want to be completely irresponsible and if that means having to kill the life YOU created, then you think that should be allowed. So if that is not your argument, what is?
It's not all men, it's just those who can't mind their own business and are unhappy with their own sex lives trying to ruin everyone else's
But how else will they be they pretend to be the dominant sex
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Got to love how some women want to blame men. Newsflash, the vast majority of Pro-life are WOMEN and not men.
The men you are referring to are elected by their constituents to represent them in congress. If the vast majority of their constituents are Pro-life (mostly women), then does it not make sense that they would vote Pro-life.
Instead of blaming men maybe you should be blaming other women but that will not fit into your "ALL MAN ARE BAD" narrative.
I wish you the best on your "MAN BASHING". Great job on being a misandrist, maybe you should only direct your questions to females, then you may get answers you like.
Newsflash just look at how many men comment on these kind of topics. Here 3 women and over 30 men commented so far.
If men don't want to me to comment on these issues maybe they shouldn't have give me a reason to do it in the first place.
Sorry, my statement still stands. More women are pro-life then men. So go bash your fellow women and get them to choose abortion over life and once you have the vast majority of women on your side then the elected officials (men or women) will be fine with abortion. Go look at any Pro-life rally, 90% women and the guys with them are old or CUCKS. Go to an Abortion rally and again 90% are women with 10% guys that just want to get into their pants.
I will have to admit, you Pro-choice women are a lot more fun then those Pro-life women. Every Pro-choice rally I attended was a great weekend.
However, my point still stands.
None of your points stand no matter how many times you repeat it. Also you seem to confuse pro-choice with pro-abortion. They are not the same thing.
Besides I've seen more women bashing on this site. Just look at this question and how many men replied.
How is Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion not the same, it can also be called anti-life. And yes my statement does still stand no matter how many time you say that it doesn't.
Prove anything that I said is false, you can't.
You are just a angry little child throwing a tantrum, it is actually pretty funny. When you want to have a grown up conversation let me know.
Okay, you can stop projecting it's actually pretty funny.
Anti-life? Lmao. Like the world is not grossly overpopulated as it is. We don't need more people. Just look at India. How many millions of people live in misery their whole life. Would you even call that a life? If everyone would start having children without a care in the world we will be in big trouble, we should actually thank the ones who don't have children. Life is not just about being alive. The quality of life matters. So pro-choice is far away of anti-life.
You have to love (not really) people like you. That still does not change the FACT that more women are Pro-Life then men and this a a battle between Pro-life women and Pro-Abortion women. Most Republican women are can not stomach politics, I can not blame them, so they have their male representatives vote how they desire. You just seem to hate men, which is fine, but when you blame men for the wrong reasons then it just shows you are nothing more then a angry child. Good luck with your anger, you are going to need it.
Lol dude just keep bullshitting. Suits you well.
FYI pro-choice is not pro-abortion. Thought you should know that by now.
WOW, you are not very intelligent at all. Pro-Choice, Pro-Abortion, Abortion Advocate or anything else you crazy people want to call it, is all the same thing. Just because you change the word of the day does not mean what you are about changes. Just like Curvy is another term for fat or plus-size just means you are fat. Not everyone is as stupid or gullible as you people.
By the way my points still stand. Men are not the problem your fellow women are.
Dude I suggest don't embarrass yourself further with your misinformation.
What does curvy have to do with everything? Very bad example. Just because you hate fat people there was no need to bring them up. Go and fatshame elsewhere. Bye!
I must have hit a nerve there, LMAO. Now the truth comes out! You are just angry at men because you can not find a guy that is willing to be with you. Since it is your own defects then maybe you should look inward instead of projecting. It is OK, there is not a shortage of food for you.
That's subjective. The loudest women on this topic want men to have no say in reproductive rights, including fathering a child. That's a problem where two parties are involved. There are also sweeping implications with regard to men's vulnerability in the existing system.
^-- Many people would call this statement misogynistic
There are insufficient defenses in place to protect men as is. Many men aren't willing to surrender the only voice they have now. Men hoping to have a say in their children's life and future are shouted down as misogynists. Current at-will laws are long-outdated and make men disproportionately vulnerable/liable compared to women. That is only going to get worse as the value of men is further eroded.
While I agree with you 100%, the guy in the image was not making the point you think he was. He was just clumsily making a point that IF we are to criminalize abortion, men should bear half the legal burden.
Yeah I agree, it was just for illustration. 😄
From a legal standpoint, men consent to having children and all the baggage that comes with it by consenting to sex in the first place. Women are not currently bound by that same requirement, which raises a 5th Amendment equal protection of laws question.
It's about women's bodies as much as it's about men's bodies, zero. It's about actions you take and the consequences of them. Don't want to risk the potential consequences? Don't open your legs, same dilemma men face.
No, it's not. Women have to go through pregnancy and not men.
With your last sentence you just showed what a misogyinistic prick you are, blaming women for everything. Great job!
You can avoid backlash by not opening your mouth.
If all you have to say about abortion is women should keep their legs closed just shows how out of touch and idiotic you are.
Where did you see me talking about myself? My personal life doesn't concern you.
What do guns have to do with abortion?
Foolish how?
More foolish than answering "Don't open your legs" to an abortion related question? Lmao
Are you deaf? This question is not about guns.
You don't control me sorry.
"But you're not a reasonable person are you?" Says the man who compares guns to abortion. I don't answer your question cause it has nothing to with abortion and besides I live in a country where most people don't own guns so.
Some people love thinking that they're right all the damn time about everything.
Some people like to act like the world revolves around them and that it's either thier way or the highway.
Oh yeah, also because some people just like having power and control over others.
Nothing new I'd say.
Because I am Mel Gibson. I need to have control over women's bodies so I can play a banjo.

We as men don't claim those pigs. Hell their bacon don't even taste that good.
What fucks with me is how these laws come from religious beliefs. Fucking fairy tales basically. It's one thing to have an imaginary friend, but these fools live in a whole ass fantasy world; one where women are admired when they're cute and dumb, but if she dare show a mite of intelligence, they wanna yell burn the witch.
@Yamama Careful incelosaurus.
@Yamama Do you expect me to take you seriously?
@Yamama Well I don't. Your kind is impossible to take seriously.
@Yamama Your poor wife. Hope you can manage your anger issues around her.
I always find it odd how whenever anybody argues against abortion, pro-choice people feel the need to insist that our motives are not about abortion. You know what that tells me, that you know that what you are doing is wrong, the worst crime of our age in fact. What will our descendants think?
The original reason men made the majority of the rules governing a woman’s body is that men made up 99% of the government and therefore made all the rules.. about everything.. women getting more involved in government is the only way this changes. It has nothing to do with sexism and everything to do with who founded the nation and did all the judicial, constitutional, civil and legislative work.
This is more about religious connotations and the fears of Evangelicals fearing that baby jesus might get aborted. It may seem like men but its do to the same people who pay out for Israels brown baby killer machines. Realistically, most men don't care.
Men can get pregnant, or do you think its physically impossible for a trans man to get pregnant pre operation? Are you that transphobic? Oout of equality people should have the same rights. Or do you perhaps think its ok to for example only let some women vote? Fine men should not make laws about womens bodies. Lets just ban abortion everywhere where men made it legal!
Those who downbote my comment are transphobes
No one said men can't get pregnant. I meant cis men in my question I am sorry if it wasn't obvious. My bad.
That Lance guy you posted is kinda racist for singling out white men. But your are right, men should not control womens bodies. They certainly should not have been allowed to legalize abortions since they are so male, right?
True, it's not just white man but that was only an example.
I don't think most men are, I just think the people full of the most bullshit happen to be the ones with the loudest voice even if they are in the minority.
So.. you think that the UK should rescind the laws the mostly male politicians made giving women the right to choose what they do with their bodies?
Well thats certainly a colourful attitude but personally i think you are a bat shit crazy feminazi witch who should probably stop speaking and posting in public forums until you can pull your head out of your ass.
Far from a fan of the extreme feminist shite but what special laws were we given?
@OliviaOfTheScots Abortion.
In 1967.
So a choice over our autonomy?
@OliviaOfTheScots Sorry Im not quite sure what your point is or where you are going with this.
I think i have addressed the issue raised by the OP, if you think i haven't or have some new issue then you will have to elaborate.
Just finished a discussion with someone about how women should be thankful we have rights and I thought you were going down the same route
Sorry for barging
@OliviaOfTheScots Not at all, I am just pissed off with this seemingly endless stream of sexist pigs who want to rail about sexism.
Seems to me that if you want to do that, as the OP does the first thing you should be doing is figuring out what sexism is.
In her mind a man can't make the right choices for a woman because he has a penis. Thats absurd and more importantly, sexist.
I'm half and half on it, guys should definitely be more involved in the decision especially with couples, but as a whole I personally think it should be down to the couples/individuals
@OliviaOfTheScots There is no ideal to be had.
The long and the short of it is that its happening inside the womans body and because it is she has to choose, anything else is barbaric and that means that men just dont get to choose and further more can be exploited etc but that is how it has to be because if you dont hold the man to account in the form of child support inforced and or recovered by the state then society ends up unfairly picking up the tab for the children the men help to make.
Alright so you're basically the man the question is about. 👌
@asker I really dont give a fuck what you think you retarded bitch.
You dont have an argument.
Then why are you here? I will tell you. Cause you felt called out by the question since this is exactly the type of men you are. Men who think they could do anything and controll women. Don't get your big girl panties in a twist tho. I don't care about your so called "argument". Since there is none. Especially cause you try to make your point by degrading women in every single comment you make. As far as I am concerned the biggest bitch here is you.
You are such a fucking moron.
Again. Just proved my point. Thank you 😂
Guess you are feeling like a big guy now.
There just isn't any point trying to explain anything to you because you dont know what it is to make an argument, you aren't interested in the truth, you dont care that you are wrong.
You want to hate men and be a sexist fucking prick? Fine, you are a lost cause, carry on being the problem you claim to want to remove from the world.
Im not attacking women, I am attacking you, not because of your gentials but because of your ignorant and degenerate mindset.
You like to tell yourself that you are fighting for equality, but you aren't, that is infact what i am doing and you are the enemy of it.
📞 Ma'am, sorry to bother. Your abortion is alive and posting nonsense online. 📞
Why dont you have a go at actually making an argument?
"Well thats certainly a colourful attitude but personally i think you are a bat shit crazy feminazi witch who should probably stop speaking and posting in public forums until you can pull your head out of your ass."
That was your "argument". In case you forgot.
Fail.
Why dont you try again?
PS. You want to hate women and be a sexist fucking prick? Fine, you are a lost cause.
I'm not attacking men, I am attacking you, not because of your gentials but because of your ignorant and degenerate mindset.
Are you incapable of grasping the concept here?
You are being invited to make an attempt to offer an argument which supports whatever position it is that you are taking up.
Fail.
Why dont you try again? Maybe this time you should call me names again to prove your "argument" or whatever it is.
What are you afraid of?
You clearly think that you are right and that you have a valid argument and position so why dont you just stake your claim and defend your position?
You keep avoiding the main substance of my posts, choosing instead to try and focus on the attacks i have made against you.
I am happy to accept that personal attacks are not valid arguments, so lets consider those removed.
I still have a stated and defended position after that.
You haven't addressed the question about whether or not you believe the laws in the UK regarding abortion should be rescinded or not based on the fact that they were inacted by mostly males.
Perhaps you could have a go at that?
I could ask you the same thing. You called me a feminazi, cunt, witch, bitch and retarded without any reason. And here you are crying about me not giving a proper answer? Bitch please. You are just one of those men who support the oppression of women. That's more than obvious by now.
But anyway here you go.
You can totally be against abortion. I just don’t think it’s right to impose your beliefs through a vote on other women’s bodies. If my actions directly affect your life or the chances of you getting into heaven then we can talk, but until then I don’t think abortion should be a political issue. And you could have 1000 women in your life that you truly adore and praise and worship, but until you are a woman in this society you will never understand what it’s like to be a woman. If you were raped and then forced to carry a baby and then take care of a baby on your own with absolutely no help your perspective might be a little bit different. It’s really no different than me helping to fight racism as a white woman in this country. I will never know what it’s like to be black so I won’t ever fully, fully understand Because I don’t live it on a daily basis. Basically what I’m here to say is there is no actual reason to be pro-life. Whether a woman was raped, has health problems, or just doesn’t want to have a baby, then she has the right to get an abortion. That is the reality, and if you deny that reality then you are delusional. If you’re so “pro-life” maybe worry about the hundreds of actual living children that are starving and abused. Oh, I forgot, you only care about children when they’re in the womb, you don’t actually care about children outside of that.
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There is no ideal to be had.
The long and the short of it is that its happening inside the womans body and because it is she has to choose, anything else is barbaric and that means that men just dont get to choose and further more can be exploited etc but that is how it has to be because if you dont hold the man to account in the form of child support inforced and or recovered by the state then society ends up unfairly picking up the tab for the children the men help to make.
I am not pro life.
I also dont view my skin colour to be any kind of impediment to my ability to see the wrong in racism or stand against it.
Why?
Because Im not a racist... so I am not going to take up a position which says white people can't do X because of the colour of their skin.
Why do you think I should just ignore all the names you have called me? Typical male idiocy. Acting like and an ass but demanding valid anwers and blaming the woman.
To answer your "question" no but it seems to me you didn't even grasp what the og question was about and twisted it into something it isn't and right after you called me a feminazi witch even do I didn's say anything just asked the question about why guys are obssessed with controlling our lives.
Gosh it's a not about racism. It's about you don't know something truly you don't experience. You don't what is like to be a woman. Period.
Its not relevant.
I dont need to know the full experience of what it is like to have my legs torn off by mountain lions to know that it is undesirable.
Besides, it isn't even about the UK. Haven't you heard what's going on in Texas?
Still, you have no right to tell someone whst they should or shouldn't do with their body.
I agree it sucks, its not fair. Remember You still have more reproductive rights then the men your complaining about.
I'm a male and don't try to control any female bodies sooo
Thenypu are the 1%.
@Yamama If you have nothing relevant to add to the conversation I would suggest you take your misogynistic ass elsewhere.
@Yamama You get off ot something when you spew hateful bullshit like this? Tell these things to your wife she must appreciate it.
@Yamama Why am I slut?
@Yamama Why I am a feminazi?
By men, you mean in this case Republican men, or religious men. Get it right.
It's not a shocking thing that men always wants to be in control
Why do women want to control men with them? ;) And control guys every other way? ;)
Because women like to dress like whores. It’s not good for society.
Incel spotted.
Then I feel sorry for your partner and kids. What a narrow-minded prick they have for a father. Yuck.
You just proved my point again.
I suppose you think you are a "good man". ROLF
Okay if you are sooo in love with the idea of a good man maybe you should find one for yourself.
And how about you stop replying to every single post here spewing hateful shit? It's rather pathetic.
You are not a man you are just a whiney bitch with a tiny penis who thinks they can do anything.
Hope one day that kid will be proud of his dad being a misogynistic prick online.
I could ask you the same thing since you are throwing around the words bitch and cunt way to easily just like a little boy who recently discovered them.
Because it takes two to make a baby, so why the hell shouldn't a decent father have a say?
It didn't say the father should have a say it's about men and their laws are controlling women's bodies.
Just keep your legs closed hunny
Again telling me what to do with my body. If you have nothing relevant to say just move on. The question wasn't about me but I love all the butthurts guys here calling every girls sluts when they loose an argument have nothing sensible to say. You just proved that. Well done!
I'll say it again, Just keep your legs closed.
You should keep your mouth closed. Since it's full of shit.
So basically you think a father has no rights to his child?
He should not force the woman to give birth if she doesn't want to. That's the point. But I see now you are just one of those "men" who likes to controll the bodies of women.
So you think it's strange that someone will get pregnant from sex?
Did you even read what I wrote?
It takes two to make a baby. If she can choose, then so should he
For the same reason women seem to be hell bent on controlling men's money and parental choice.
I wonder why so many men hate women and want to hurt them
Women just can't but revolt for their right to get naked and win in the attention competition. slut alert.
Incel alert.
They aren't. These bills are supported by women too.
Thanks for the down vote asker. No rebuttal?
Because we’re talking about another human life not destroying it
Does it impact your life if a random women has an abortion? That's right. It doesn't.
All these pro-lifers like you only care about it when it's still in the womb once it's out you don't give two shits about those children. Maybe you should focus your energy on the already existing children living in orphanages and fostercare. They don't have good lives. So I suggest you to adopt a couple of them and give them a loving home if you truly care about their lives.
If you truly care about your human race you should be pro-choice since the world is already pretty overpopulated as it is.
See? You don't really care about those kids after they are born. You want your OWN kid. Well that's pretty selfish considering you are pro life and advocating for no abortions.
So you chickened out I see. Then if you yourself in no way shape or form are helping the already existing lives you have no say on this matter futhermore don't judge others by their personal decisions that don't affect you. Good day!
*sigh*
My ideas are not evil, they are logical and supported by proof. If you can't comprehend that that's on you not me.
What are you talking about proof this has nothing to do with a Proof situation this is a life-and-death situation On making the right call. You don’t take a life because you change your mind and don’t want to raise a baby because you’re selfish or you can’t afford the baby you bring the baby into the world and adopt him out.
"You don’t take a life because you change your mind and don’t want to raise a baby because you’re selfish or you can’t afford the baby you bring the baby into the world and adopt him out."
Take your own advice then and adopt all the babies you can since you are such a nice man who cares about everyone's life.
Also you said you want your own child. It's way more selfish than adopting a kid from the system. Just saying.
😂😂😂😂
What you need is to educate yourself on overpopulation and why it is harmful and also look into adoption. First take care of the lives that already exist and not make more.
You just preach and don't act. You just judge and don't help others. What kind of Christian are you really? I would say a very bad one.
Your last sentence summed up perfectly how immoral you really are. Also it's nice to see when you don't have anything even remotely reasonable to say you are just getting personal and calling me names and tell me what should I do with my body. So you are exactly the man in question. Congratulations.
Now you've hit below the belt every time I get into a debate with somebody that's losing on the site they hit below the belt because they can't continue to be competitive with me because I proved them wrong just like I proved you wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about and you're dead wrong on everything you've just said. Obviously you're trying to piss me off on purpose and others as you hide on pink Anonymous like a coward. You have no real serious thoughts and ideas on the subject matter all you want to do is troll to get kicks
Because women seem incapable of taking responsibility for their actions.
doesn't it take 2 to have a kid?
@OliviaOfTheScots It does but women are the ones who get pregnant and decide to kill the child.
I have a question. A woman can only get pregnant once a month but a man can get how many women pregnant in a month? So your answer is to punish women?
Most abortions occur very early in pregnancy, its an embryo, not a baby. They're mostly done when many miscarriages naturally occur as well. Just quit with the "killing the baby" talk already, you look ridiculous and ignorant.
Classic female rationalization. You women can convince yourself of anything if it suits you.
Okay Mr Mansplainer who knows nothing about abortion. :D
I'll mansplain when women are too dumb to comprehend basic facts... I'll also manspread at will.
What am I too dumb to comprehend? Really curious since you don't seem to even comprehend the meaning of the og question.
Power.
Ego.
Control.
Did I say power?
Because it’s our property. Now where is dinner?
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