Don’t you believe incels aren’t real?

[Anonymous]

They aren’t. It’s a defeatist mindset. I don’t care if you’re ugly. If that loser grafted consistently on his career, physique and confidence and stopped typing pornhub on Google pretty girls will be after him 💯

By which time he won’t give af about those bitches

I agree it’s just a defeatist mindset

I disagree

[Agent_Elflord]

It’s defeatist, or at least it is for one guy I know. He wasn’t the best looking, didn’t have a good home life, and had some odd behavior, but it could have just been because it was high school. The biggest problem was his home life, apparently his family’s cats weren’t taken care of that well because his clothes often smelled like cat pee, he had long hair and facial hair that didn’t suit him, and thought sometimes acting creepy was funny. We tried giving him advice because a good haircut, a shave, a shower, a better choice of clothes or at least a well planned outfit (freshly washed), etc. aren’t tough problems to fix, but he always ignored our advice. One of the girls in my group even took a picture of his eyes once for an art project and discovered that they were really pretty! Poor guy just kept wallowing in his depression though. I haven’t heard from him in a while, and I hope he’s doing better now.

[hahahmm]

Incel is a stupid concept, if you ask me. These women think vagina is worth so much when any guy can buy it for peanuts if all he really wants is sex. So there's no such thing as involuntarily celibate. There's guys who feel like they can't get the kind of female they want or can't get a real relationship. 99.99% of dudes on earth were in that situation at some point in their life.

[LazerBean]

I actually do agree. It's never that they can't actually get someone to sleep with them, it's pretty much always just that theor standards for wen are way higher than the standards that they themselves meet. So when I hear the word I never take it to mean that they actually can't get laid, I take it to mean that they are repulsive delusional extremely perverted just generally stupid.

[FilmGuy93]

I disagree. The problem with InCels is the "Involuntary" part. They aren't doing this shit by choice. They don't know how to make themselves more desirable to women.

[Anonymous]

Incensed are a manufactured name generally wielded by women to insult guys. I've been called it before on here 🤣. But I've had my opportunities. Sorry, I'm just "celibate" not "in". I'd say that's 99% of guys that are labeled this. There's plenty of women that'll still sleep with them. They're just not interested in those women. Same with 99% of the women who complain about guys on here. Most the time they're chasing a guy that simply is not interested. At least nothing more than an occasional smash every now and then.

[inhua]

involuntary celibates do exist though.

even then the word "incel" is meaningless as I've seen it used on pimps, fathers, dudes in relationships etc. those people just happen to say something that makes women look bad so they're apparently "incels"

[Chris_675]

It could be a defeatist mindset for some guys if they have unrealized potential.

I'm not sure what watching adult entertainment has to do with anything though. In the past when I was in relationships we used to even watch porn together and have sex after or during.

[UniquelyBasic]

Doesn't it just mean a person is involuntary celibate? So, it does exist but I dont think that all of them are losers or bad people which some use as an insult even if the person isn't technically an incel.

[Asker]

Well technically even girls are incels as they can’t get the guy they want. But we never hear of that

[Asker]

I’ve seen a guy with no arms get a pretty girlfriend 😂

[Guy13]

Interesting logic. Got lost on last third of argument

[TroyDT2]

Definitely a mindset.