Do you think compulsory military service for men would be character-building and reduce male violence?

[Anonymous]

Of course not all need it but maybe it would teach some guys more discipline and responsibility? Would also be good for physical health. It's still in place in lots of the world so why not? (Not suggesting forcing anyone to actually fight just the training)

[GreenLanternI0I]

Yes and no. Historically speaking, Spartans were the most militarized society humanity have ever witnessed, even to this day I believe and yet there still was crime, mostly rape. What I am about to tell you is not a joke or even to make you laugh. It will sound weird but that is the truth. If you want to reduce male violence and wars and crimes by a TON, you have to have a Mandatory and Compulsory daily sex with a girl sessions, the more the better. When guys are completely empty and dry, there is no drive to do anything stupid, dangerous or violent, because all the testosterone and dopamine has been depleted. Ohh and choking your own snake is not the same, as having sex with a real girl, not even close and never will be.

[Jackblue]

Not entirely, an ability to maintain good conduct in the military doesn't always translate into the same in civilian life. Like young adults whose parents were overly strict and controlling, soldiers sometimes do not know how to control themselves once freed from the iron fist they are used to. They often join biker gangs, looking for the sense of companionship and activity, which civilian life often lacks.

[Asker]

Ok I get what you mean, maybe if the right support was offered afterwards though

[Jackblue]

Perhaps, but what about the guys like me who are too weak to handle basic training, if we were dishonorably discharged it would seriously hinder our futures.

[dustybiker]

Biker gangs? lol

[Jackblue]

@dustybiker www.history.com/.../motorcycle-gangs-origins-wwii-veterans

[dustybiker]

Early adrenaline junkies. Now criminals as seemingly implied from bike gangs of twenty years ago.

Crazy how things change. 😁

[dustybiker]

*Not

[Anonymous]

"Not forcing anyone to fight"? Yeah ok but it's not your call if a war breaks out.

[dustybiker]

Wouldn’t hurt. At very least everyone should learn how to defend themselves.

[NamerOfStars]

... You think forcing people into combat slavery, where they learn how to be effectively violent and unthinkingly submit to institutions simply because they're stronger, as well as having their lives declared public property is going to lead to LESS violence?

That's like combating drug use by handing out free drugs. The sexism's just icing on the cake.

[Asker]

Ok it's not slavery is it. And it's not sexism because men are stronger and more aggressive and therefore better suited to military service

[NamerOfStars]

It's forcing people into dangerous labor without their consent; that's slavery. And it's discriminating on the basis of sex- that's sexism.

Dictionaries are your friend.

[Summeroflove]

I don’t believe in it. It’s also sexist. Very sexist. What about women? Women can’t also be violent sometimes? Women don’t sometimes come with their own set of problems?

[Asker]

Maybe but the problems are different and women aren't suited for military in same way men are, are they?

[NathanDavis]

sports can give you the same, and even better results

the absolute most violent and inhumane organizations... are usually formed by military formed psychos...

[snackthatsmilesback]

I don't think military training would reduce violence no. Lol

[TheSpaceGnome]

No, military men are the most violent, mentally unstable people we have.
Video games seem to calm most people down though.

[Anonymous]

No. Make it compulsory for women, and for the sake of equality give women the exact clothes men are are wearing, and absolutely no more, for the sake of equality

[Asker]

If you're referring to the men training in just shorts well that wouldn't be equality to make women train like that would it, because women have breasts.

[Opinion Owner]

Equality is equal, men and women should have the exact same outfit. Very necessary for womens equality. A fact we learned from a Norwegian volleyball (?) team that threw a tantrum over women not having the same outfit as men.

[Asker]

I saw that - handball I think. I mean that's not the same because they were being made to wear less by promotors for the sake of objectification. The men are wearing what they are wearing because those are efficient clothes to do intense physical exercise in and allow the instructors to check on their condition. Nothing sinister going on there. If there were women there they wouldn't be able to wear the same thing because they have breasts which society has sexualised and they would feel deeply uncomfortable, so a t shirt and shorts would be the right compromise. It is another sign of male privilege that men can exercise shirtless.

[Opinion Owner]

It is exactly the same. Women who wanted to have the same outfit as men. Either they can wear the exact same outfit or we can let the women wear even less. Male privilege is just hogwash. This pure objectification of men. Either women should have to be equal enough to wear the exact same outfit as men or they can just admit feminists wish for equality is based on false premises.

[Asker]

I mean that last photo is from Singapore which is a country completely controlled by men. It is men who decided the uniform would be shorts and shirtless for men (and that women volunteers would wear shorts and vests I noticed when I searched for army training photos). It is also men who decided the handball uniforms in that case. See the pattern? Equality isn't about clothes, it is about power imbalances.

[Opinion Owner]

Equality is about being treated equal. As in for example men and women wearing the same thing.

[KrakenAttackin]

Not everyone is cut out for the military, but some kind of public service could be helpful.

[Asker]

Ok, I was thinking the discipline of military would be good but maybe something else would work too

[Anonymous]

Why only for men? I believe in equality for women, so I want to see compulsory military service for women as they have in Israel.

[Asker]

Men are stronger and capable of more violence so they are better suited to channelled agression in the military

[Anonymous]

I'm a feminist man and I want all White women in the military getting shot at.

[Dinklex3]

You think military men aren't violent? 😅

[_piotr]

Quite the opposite!

[boobliker]

yes for both boys and girls too

[Fuentes]

Lol it wouldn't reduce the violence

[Songomatic]

As long as they are all attractive 😆

[In_Trance]

Not at all