Do you think it’s sad what men have become?

Question

Men used to be warriors, knights and fearless etc… now look at men.  what happened?

TheRealPepperPotts · Accepted Answer

I get what you are saying from a romantic perspective, but sadly, in reality the Middle Ages was a brutal time for much of the population. There were of course good men, but there were also cruel ones and rampant lawlessness. I don't totally disagree or agree, I think some more context and nuance is required.

I think in the past, men had more clarity on their role in society, which I think is what you mean. Men knew they were where the buck stopped. They knew that for women and children to survive, their strength and sacrifice were required and they accepted it. There were still con men and cheaters, though. There were still men who didn't step up. But the societal pressure to do so was stronger then, than it is now.

These days, I feel as though many men are kind of lost. They don't have a clear role because society is open to anything and can be very condemning of anything smacking of tradition. For a while, the acceptable role was being the provider post-WWII. Fighting and violence were less acceptable forms of bringing justice to the weak, so prevention became the focus. Provide a good life for the wife and kids, work hard, etc. That became the definition of a good man.

But now, it's changed even more. Being a provider is now viewed as too traditional and even perceived as controlling and an indicator of toxic masculinity. Nonsense, of course, but that's the messaging. Men are throwing up their hands and going, "What do you want from us? We can die, we can serve, we can protect, we can suppress our feelings, we can build cities and innovate, we can work, create art, etc...". But there isn't a clear role that defines and distinguishes "maleness" anymore. And that is troubling, because men (especially intelligent ones) without direction are like atomic bombs without a kill switch.

I don't think it's sad what men have become, I think it's sad how far the pendulum has swung to leave an entire sex struggling to know how they fit into the world. And that is what the breakdown of a society is. Breaking down the small networks of people that make up the sense of belonging leaves individuals flailing and primed to be collected into a larger directive. It's why the political climate is distressing to me. When people don't know who they are, they are more likely to be joiners of causes that promise to tell them the answer.

sage2021 · Accepted Answer

A lot of them are girly men or girly boys.
Yes, it is sad what a lot of men have become.
I just wonder if they will still be able to find enough of the right kind of men to recruit in our military 🇺🇸.

Vegasrunner · Accepted Answer

Not sure what the sad part would be. In reality young men your age have always had to go through trials and tribulations to earn their value. The biggest issue for your generation is that the contrast between where your value stands compared to where a female in your age range stands is at the biggest contrast that its ever been. On top of that you guys failures are more public. The good news is as a man you have so much more time to reach your prime, and the dynamic begins to switch right around the 28 - 32 age range plus your get to keep that advantage throughout life. I would so no young men are ok, learn from your L's right now.

b_lova · Accepted Answer

Sure men were warriors, but they were also insecure and often depressed because they had to repress their feelings. Let's not glorify the fact that they suffered in silence.

Have we swing you far the other way... maybe. But we will autocorrect at some point. Things often pendulum from one extreme to the other until they find balance.

My encouragement to you is to lead by finding that balance for your generation.

wiltingrosepetal · Answer

Are you upset we're moved past the middle ages? You know, where the life expectancy was 30? It's a little worrying that men relate murder to masculinity. Besides, i don't see the problem with how comfortable life is. Does there have to be suffering so men can feel masculine?

NamerOfStars · Answer

Killing anyone who might be a threat to you isn't courage; it's a lot closer to cowardice. Doing so at the command of your government is exposing yourself, your peers, and family to the same risk is the exact opposite of fearlessness.

Men have started to learn that their lives have value beyond what they can do for others; that's worthy of praise, not condemnation.

PositiveNote · Answer

Men rise to the occasion. If there is a fight to be won, they win it. If they need to protect the innocent, they fight to do so, etc. Presently, there is not as much of a threat on the common American man—applies to other developed nations—as there used to be. When there is a threat of any sort, any man will step up. If there is not a threat, men would rather enjoy sports or other distractions. Pretty simple. We are not looking for a fight in every corner.

patois · Answer

Where I live, plenty of men have been soldiers or still are, men build things, hunt, work hard, etc. Many are tall, strong, and tough. It seems like you just live in a prissy commie city. There are a lot of men all over the country. Maybe you are just describing your rainbow jerk circle at the local glory-hole rather than men.

TommyMountainFigure · Answer

It depends on where specifically you're talking about. Different parts of the world have extremely opposing beliefs, and as such expect men to behave differently.

Therefore I can only speak personally. and I'm pretty pleased with the way I have turned out!

Lionman95 · Answer

Yes though I don't think all men should be warriors since there is no necessity to so many warriors in the world, but nonetheless I agree. What makes me sad the most is to see how comfortable and comfort seeking many people have become and how weak people's self control and discipline have become. Since many people are addicted to junk food and softdrinks and what seems fun over what is necessary and healthy.

OlderAndWiser · Answer

I get my pride from what I am, and not what other guys are. I follow the same standards that I learned almost 70 years ago. I don't need to drive a pickup truck to know that I am a man.

Jeilasoyun · Answer

I disagree, back when there where knights lots of men where defenceless too that’s why there where men that stood up for the others that’s not different then it is now. Besides now there are women too that fight and defend

exitseven · Answer

Guys today have no sense of manhood. They deny their inner manhood. This is one of the reasons there is so many suicides. You cannot turn your back on thousands of years of evolution just because somebody on Tick Tock tells you to.

RebelinSteel · Answer

Men are marines, infantry, pilots, engineers, half a dozen physical jobs. Play rugby, soccer, Australian Football, etc

Nikki1989 · Answer

Yes, look how they bitch, moan and whine on here. It is really disturbing.

slatyb · Answer

Prople are the same; circumstances change. Happily there is a lot less war in the world. Do you imagine that men went happily to war in the past? Then you have never been in combat. Read "All Quiet On the Western Front"

JonCobretti · Answer

Yeah Men used to have so many wives, Slapped their wives when she did something wrong, spanked her to discipline her , kept the woman in the kitchen... we changed a lot , maybe we shouldn't have?

Nirmroth · Answer

Men were Knights, fearless? Do you ever held a history book not upside down in your hands.

normalice · Answer

There is no need for those things. Now intelligence reigns supreme.

dustybiker2 · Answer

Right/ terrible. Now they are doctors, firemen, police and military...

CrabCakes11 · Answer

You’re upset less men murder eachother? That’s pretty strange

NathanDavis · Answer

I'm still slaying some dragons during the weekend... speak for yourself

Apple1996 · Answer

Definitely is sad that men aren't manly anymore 😔

msc545 · Answer

We got smart.  Women, who now say they don't need men, can fight their own fucking battles and risk their own bodies and lives.

andreasderjuengere · Answer

I'm cool with it. It gives better chances for myself on ''the market'' :D

lokiloko · Answer

Oh jesus krist not these stupid all men are warrior fantasy again... You need to read a book and just learn majority of men (majority of population) in the past were opressed peasant.

Anonymous · Answer

The computer and smart phone came along, so now men are trolling and living out Walter Mitty-like dreams on the internet.

handsomelad70 · Answer

I know what I am, and other guys' behaviour is not my business.

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

Why you think less of men for not being warriors?  You think life should be a Hollywood movie or show?

nudeNhorny · Answer

I wouldn't generalize because it hasn't reached that point (yet), but some things that are accepted now... 🤦‍♂️

AngryCarl · Answer

We found ways to settle our differences without violence. I consider that progress.

Anonymous · Answer

I think it's sad what bot genders have become.

Anonymous · Answer

No, the men of old were culled years ago and now all men will get the same treatment

HelpfulWoman · Answer

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pinconon · Answer

it's a bit disappointing to say the least

Anonymous · Answer

I definitely miss men being men.

strateguy632 · Answer

no..

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