True or False: The difference between a nice guy and a bad boy, is that the bad boy is physically attractive to women?

[Chthou95]

True

False

[Alli112]

Are we saying "nice guy" as in a creepy manipulator who pretends to be nice to gain affection and affirmation, or just generally someone non-problematic compared to the idea of a "bad boy"?

Regardless, it is more of a vibes/personality thing.

[Chthou95]

Personality can't be seen when you meet someone

[Alli112]

Then how am I supposed to know if a dude is a bad boy (as opposed to someone who just like has a bunch of tattoos or dresses a certain style), let alone a nice guy (who could literally have just about any appearance)? Like, "nice guy" and "bad boy" are functions of personality and aren't immediately visible.

[4ngelic]

nice boy = good natured dude (who can also be a bad boy) OR wholesome church boy type who doesn't drink etc

bad boy = dude who looks or/and acts rebellious & tough (can be warm and friendly, or really nice) OR a dude who acts cold, careless and hard (as a facade but is secretly sensitive or even hurt inside). when a woman says she likes bad boys usually it means the first thing

nice boys and bad boys aren't separated by hotness, you can be a hot nice guy and a super bland badboy

[4ngelic]

*was distracted so wrote too fast. for the bad boy thing, if you're an asshole you'd still be considered a bad boy it doesn't have to be a facade, but that wouldn't be remotely attractive and no girl would mean that if they say they like bad boys

[Nirmroth]

Its a personality thing, the confidence and cheekyness a person carries is visible.

[Chthou95]

But a lot of people get rejected before being able to show their personality so how would they really know

[Nirmroth]

Ye but that wasn't the question right? Furthermore in Person its not that bad. Its only men who care about looks that much for women social status is nearly as important.

The instant rejection you're talking about happens on dating apps which isn't reality

[Chthou95]

You brought up the personality part. And that's a cope. Women care about looks just as men do. There's nothing wrong with that, its natural. They just lie about it and are more politically correct and say it's personality. Human nature isn't that different from online and real life

[Nirmroth]

Thats not a cope and you brought up personality. I mentioned confidence and cheekyness and social status.
Social status includes how you treat people around you and how you get treated by others.

Men care less about that but women do. Its proven that men care way more about looks than women do. Never wondered why women wear make up while men focus on career/work as example?

Yes looks attract but as man your social status can keep aswell or how would you explain always seeing couples were the man is uglier than the women but never in reverse?

[Nirmroth]

And online dating is vastly different from irl even my female friend said, she's way more picky online than in person.

[Chthou95]

The man isn't ugly. He's usually just an average guy. And just because goldiggers exist doesn't mean women still don't care about looks. Men and women equally care about looks. What people do is far more important than what people say and looks initiate majority of the time

[Nirmroth]

No one said that. Or is your agenda that average guys can't get girls bec I got a big surprise coming for you then.

Again I dont agree with you on that, men are simply more primed for looks than women. Meaning a women doesn't need a good career or ambitions or high social standing. Different for women.

[Chthou95]

Its possible for average guys to succeed but it is harder to succeed. That doesn't mean mem care more about looks than women. Both look for different things but physical attraction is universal. Not gender based

[Sharkstealth]

Women will always spend more time preening on looks. If makeup was not invented then they would have found other ways. That is actually a reality check to women placing looks higher than the "proven" statistics.

[Nirmroth]

Nah its more about the fact that its what men favour. Deep down we're rather simple.

[jahaims]

Opinions aren't true or false. Facts and fallacies are.

[blueonblack22]

Women are intentionally vague in their terminology when they describe men. They are supposed to be better at being “expressive” but they keep using phrases “cute”, “nice guy”, “bad boy”, etc. can mean so many different things given the context.

For example I usually cringe when a woman I’m interested in calls me “sweet” or even worse a “nice guy”. But there have been a few encounters in my life when a woman said that and had very real feelings. A those women wanted to bang my brains out too. On top of that they were very attractive. Sadly those are in a minority circumstances but it has really happened.

Anyway I wish women could get away from weak vague ambiguous labels when describing men. But they do that intentionally so they have “wiggle room” just in case they change their minds.

Men on the other hand are usually better at being direct when we know what we wanted or we just stay quiet we are unsure. But we don’t use vague terminology to give ourselves “wiggle room” bs when describing women.

[ProbablyClueless]

That is completely false, the difference is mostly about intention. A bad boy disregards the woman and generally treats her poorly. And he also happens to be attractive.

The Nice Guy treats the woman well, but he's doing it with a motive.

[Chthou95]

"And he also happens to be attractive" bro...

[ProbablyClueless]

Yeah, and he TREATS HER POORLY. The nice guy does the opposite. He treats her well but he's not doing it because he's actually a nice person.

[Chthou95]

doesn't matter. Even if he was legit a nice person, wouldn't change anything if he's ugly

[ProbablyClueless]

It does matter. The way each man is treating her is entirely the point. It's true that women will put up with more crap from guys they are attracted to, but you're talking about two men treating the woman totally different ways.

The bad boy is treating her mean BECAUSE she's keen on him. The nice guy is hoping that she'll become keen on him because he's not being mean.

[Chthou95]

They're the same guy but women just have scopes on the nice guys while being blind to the bad boys

[ProbablyClueless]

And I'm telling you that that perspective, in my experience, is not accurate.

[Chthou95]

Let's agree to disagree

[Tannhauser]

The whole "nice guy" facade is just a coping mechanism

The reality is whoever calls themselves a nice guy is just boring, not confident in themselves, and likely out of shape, not to mention their personality lacks charisma

Everyone loves beauty and confidence. If you have neither then work on yourself

[ReginaGeorgeIsMaBoo]

Not all men are the same. My experience with bad boys is that they aren't really bad, they just act like it. We mostly define a "bad boy" as someone who smokes or drinks or has tattoos, but that's not always the case.

[Chthou95]

I disagree most of us men are the same in the way we operate and think. We're not that unique or special.

[Anonymous]

100% TRUE 🫵

Dont believe anyone else and don’t believe otherwise.

Great genetics on a man are irresistible.

[Opinion Owner]

All these women who seem innocent by saying “it’s not true”, don’t know their own psychology. Because they can say looks don’t matter.
But when you see them out about , when you see them in action;
You’ll see the opposite of what they claim.
🫵
Black Pill is the truth

[war_daddy]

it's not physical at all. it's personality differences

[Chthou95]

Upon meeting someone you don't know anything about their personality

[war_daddy]

so what?

[Chthou95]

How could it be personality then

[Ryannnnnnnwithtwo-N]

This opinion is immature as fuck but Idgas... Bad boys are the best !

[Chthou95]

I know

[PrettyCrumblBb]

Bad boys are ugly

[Chthou95]

Yeah sure...

[PrettyCrumblBb]

You are

[Chthou95]

Hey leave Mr Rogers out of this

[PrettyCrumblBb]

I couldn't see your pic. It's tiny

[Chthou95]

Anyone could tell its Mr Rogers

[Phoenix98]

No clue.

[MacDaddyRico]

Does that mean the nice guys are gay?

[Stef12]

No. They're just fake.

[DishLady]

False.

[Crazzyyworld]

Pimp?

[Chthou95]

What?

[Crazzyyworld]

Girls who couldn’t find sugar daddy and grown up looking to become a prostitues and when she find herself as prostitute she doesn’t know how to see sex so she look for a pimp. Pimps are ugly men

[Crazzyyworld]

Sell not see*

[Chthou95]

That's just the horn effect. You associate bad things with ugly people and the halo effect is the opposite. You associate positive and good traits in good looking men