Which is more attractive to women, THE BAD BOY or THE NICE GUY?

[coachTanthony]

Which is more attractive to women, THE BAD BOY or THE NICE GUY?

BAD BOY

NICE GUY

OTHER

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Updates

+1 y

Some of you got it but most did not. All I did was create a BAD BOY persona that women could actually be attracted too.

So if Men are everything on my BAD BOY list women should have no problem.

Women can now stop calling BAD BOYS jerks and criminals. I set the new standard. Jerks and criminals are just that JERKS and CRIMINALS.

You are all welcome.

[purplepoppy]

GOODGUY
Intelligent and educated.
BADBOY
Fucked around at school playing the badboy and can now barely read or write.
GOODGUY
Polite, courteous and well mannered.
BADBOY
Rude, arrogant and ill mannered.
GOODGUY
Takes responsibility for his actions and will apologise when in the wrong. Is honest and trustworthy.
BADBOY
Dishonest and cannot be trusted
Blames everyone else. Never his fault but always involved. Will stand on your toe then blame you for having toes.
GOODGUY
Is calm, composed, logical with a well balanced temperament.
BADBOY
Is aggressive, abusive and quickly resorts to violence at the merest provocation.
GOODGUY
Has a real job and/or career prospects. Is hardworking and industrious.
BADBOY
Involved in criminal activities, rarely does a days honest work. Usually gets sacked within a week. Generally unemployable.
GOODGUY
Knows what foreplay is, doesn't "accidentally" hit the wrong hole and sees to her pleasure as well as his own.
BADBOY
Wham bam thank you mam.

For me their is only one choice, the good guy. I'll leave the bad boys to the guttergirls.

[coachTanthony]

That is quite the list you have there!

[lernulo]

It's incredible what you wrote, I'm gonna use it in the future.
Thank you

[DECENTSCOTTISHLAD999]

l agree with everything that you say l am a very decent guy

[StingRayxoxo]

Most women want a nice guy.
A young girl looking for her first boyfriend will search for the good, nice guy qualities. A teenager will experience existentialism and will rebel against many of the norms that her family has laid out for her, in an effort to figure out what she wants from life. Here enters the "bad boy" who will eventually break her heart. That chain of events eventually leads to her seeking out a guy with "nice guy" qualities once again.

[ChefCurry]

Haha. That's a funny way of explaining girls just want dick. And bad boys are there to give it to them.

[StingRayxoxo]

Women want dick from the nice guy too, that's ever present.

[ChefCurry]

I think they'll take dick from anyone as long as its dick.

[StingRayxoxo]

I think that generalization about certain women can also be applied to certain men about wanting pussy.

[ChefCurry]

No. I'm quite selective

[StingRayxoxo]

As am I. Which is why I generalized.

[007-Tarzan]

I think you've just unwittingly proven that most women want a bad boy but then get butt hurt and settle for a nice nice door mat.. aka nice guy..

[ChefCurry]

@007-Tarzan you fail to understand. Bad boys come as good guys. Sometimes they are. No one likes nice guys. Not even nice guys themselves. That's why they have low self esteem and who wants to deal with that.

[007-Tarzan]

Yeah I'm aware of that... my comment was in response to what the girl wrote.

[StingRayxoxo]

No, I think some women THINK they want a bad boy when they're exploring their existentialism and rebelling against the structure that they grew up in. The nice guy is not a settle. The nice guy is the ideal.

[ChefCurry]

This is true. I like to warn girls that I'm an asshole but they hate when I show that side. Girls genuinely want a guy who respects them and treats them good. Even girls that like getting roughed up want that. What girls dont want is someone fake who acts a certain way to get in their panties.

[StingRayxoxo]

You're exactly right with that statement @ChefCurry.

[ChefCurry]

I'm never wrong.

[Mamamialetmego]

No you tell yourself to believe that shit 😂

[Stoner710]

Just to put in my 2¢ most girls want to date the nice guy, They are financially secure and do what there women want but the hate sleeping with then,

When it comes to the men that she wants to have sex with it’s normally the bad boys, There good in bed unlike the nice guys, It’s sex vs security. They want both but normally can’t have both it’s either someone who is good in bed or someone who is a good responsible guy.

Of course after women reach there exasperation date they wish they had gone for the nice guys but by that time it’s to late unless there a celebrity the 40 women have no choice but to go for the 60-70 year old who’s financially stable or go for the 21 year old who’s good in bed, there really is no winning here.

Of course if we went back to a era we’re women don’t have equal rights you’d see an increase in women finding nice guys and settling down because they will treat then the way they want, But until we go back to that time women now have to deal with jerk and A-holes is the want good sex and or nice guys who are bad at sex but good when it comes to money

[Mamamialetmego]

@Stoner710 i know dude alpha beta dualistic mating strategy. I know women's fucking soul.

[Stoner710]

@Mamamialetmego pretty much alpha good in bed but sucks when it comes to money beta a good financially but suck in bed, And unfortunately until we get rid of equal right for women this is going to be the case in the dating scene. Of corse if we tried to take women’s rights away then there would be major backlash. So basically women have brought jerks bs nice guys on themselves and now there really isn’t a good reason to have a relationship with an American women, if you get one of Vietnam Korea China a slovic country or even a French or Spanish women then yea relationship with these women are amazing they shut up the are good in bed and there the type of women who alpha men want to put the golden band on keeps the house clean makes dinner to marry betas get the bitch American women.

Until women’s rights are gone men should not date American women.

No I’m not anti women’s rights but let’s face it it hurts families

[07447117051]

Nice guys

[007-Tarzan]

I wish I wasn't on this thread... keep getting notifications now lmao

[Stoner710]

@007-Tarzan lol fail

[Jamie05rhs]

I disagree about the young girls. They just want popular guys.

[StingRayxoxo]

Why is there an insinuation that nice guys are bad at sex? Just curious

[ChefCurry]

Because girls like getting spanked choked. Nice guys dont have that kind of sex. They do missionary or whatever lame shit.

[Jamie05rhs]

That's not true, @ChefCurry! I'm a nice guy and I can go wild if I need to.

[coachTanthony]

@stingrayxoxo because bad boys will stuff your face in a pillow and give it to you good and nice guys will not. It is what it is.

[Jamie05rhs]

Wrong!

[Jamie05rhs]

The difference is we nice guys ask permission first. ;)-

[ChefCurry]

This married chick made me cum in mouth once. She said her husband never does that

[Jamie05rhs]

Then she's just a whore.

[ChefCurry]

@Jamie05rhs better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission.

[ChefCurry]

Most women are.

[coachTanthony]

@Jamie05rhs I just spit this really good scotch out all over the place.. I should charge you for it.

[Jamie05rhs]

@ChefCurry I think that rule only applies to the newspapers at the hotel.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Coach Sorry, man. Lol

[ChefCurry]

@Jamie05rhs na. Applies for everything. Only passive people ask for permission. If you make a move and she says no. You respect it. But you gotta be a go getter if you want anything in this world.

[Jamie05rhs]

Well... I'm passive.

[007-Tarzan]

How do you remove yourself from this thread? I keep getting notifications of this nonsense

[StingRayxoxo]

@coachTanthony I stand by that a nice guy can give it to you good.

@Jamie05rhs Agreed but also tend to agree with what @ChefCurty said about making a move and respecting what she says.

[coachTanthony]

@stingrayxoxo Fair enough! As long as people are happy that is the most important.

[Jamie05rhs]

@StingRayxoxo Okay, so maybe you're okay with it. But not all women are. I'm pretty sure there are some that would feel violated if you got rough with them with no warning at all.

[StingRayxoxo]

@Jamie05rhs With regards to that, I mean more within the confines of a relationship that trust already exists within.

[Jamie05rhs]

@StingRayxoxo That's what I meant, though.

[Jamie05rhs]

There is such a thing as marital rape.

[Jamie05rhs]

You don't think I'm too much of a feminist, do you?

[StingRayxoxo]

I don't know much about marital rape but I tend to think that only already violent men (as well as religious extremists) commit marital rape.

[Jamie05rhs]

I'm pretty sure a criminal act is defined by the act, not the person. Unless I'm missing something here.

[GreenGold1992]

@StingRayxoxo I think you made a good observation

[StingRayxoxo]

I agree. Perhaps I lost track of your point prior to the marital rape comment? Can you clarify

[Jamie05rhs]

@StingRayxoxo You basically said that only happened if the man was violent of a religious extremist. So calm people and non-religious people are incapable of committing rape?

[StingRayxoxo]

@Jamie05rhs Religious extremists generally think the husband has total rights to his wife's body.
Generally a more violent type of person has already exhibited red flags of possible sexual aggression-- more so than a calmer natured person. Unless you want to delve into the psychoses of other personality types, yes I think they are more likely to rape.

[Jamie05rhs]

Okay. Your explanation does make pretty good sense. Thanks.

[Stoner710]

@Jamie05rhs sure if there in high school once they get out they go for rich guys or jerks

[StingRayxoxo]

@coachTanthony I didn't read your chart before I responded... I will pay more attention next time.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Stoner710 That's the same thing.

[coachTanthony]

@stingrayxoxo It's all good!

[StingRayxoxo]

Thank you for the MHO

[hellacray]

Lol you might as well change the list name to heroes or cowards.

Did an incel make this list?

[coachTanthony]

You can name it anything you want. There are Men on the left and on the right. Most men these days sorry to say are on the right side of the list.

[hellacray]

Umm no... Most men are a mixture of both.

[coachTanthony]

Agree to disagree. Maybe 15 years ago I would say yes but the young men today... sorry charlies.

[hellacray]

You think everything is just black and white?

No one in is ever purely bad or purely good.

[coachTanthony]

I am sure there are many guys who have both qualities. Happy? I deal with the younger gen so I know whats really going on out there.

[hellacray]

Do the younger gen come to you for dating advice?

[coachTanthony]

Of course and they are all screwed up with the characteristics on the right not the left.

[hellacray]

Well there you go. All the guys coming to you actually need help.

Pretty sure there's a bunch of guys that don't need help that would fit in both categories.

[coachTanthony]

Of course there are... but the people I am trying to help I wouldn't call COWARDS. They just need guidance.

[Logorithim]

Most want bad boys, but that declines with age.

[IceMoon]

I disagree, now in days our preference is pretty even. The exemplary image is misleading, it’s inclined to make you prefer bad boys, and misrepresents good qualities of nice guys.

[DECENTSCOTTISHLAD999]

Yes that's true when they have dated bad guys they then want a decent guy

[dogman7q]

I think its better said there attracted to bad boys but want nice

[DECENTSCOTTISHLAD999]

@dogman7q Very true

[Logorithim]

Thanks for the MHO

[Cynicaldreamer]

So wait... I have to disagree with this image-

Why can't a "nice guy" have traits that a "bad guy" has? A nice guy can be assertive, passionate, stands up for himself, and masculine!

With that being said, I am definitely more attracted to nice guys! Never understood why women go for the legit "bad boy" types (ie: a guy that is literally a heartbreaker and causes nothing but drama, stress, and hurts them) as opposed to a good man that wants to take care of her and has his life in order.

[LuvAsh]

Exactly. That image is a lie🤦🏾

[coachTanthony]

@LuvAsh Lies they're all lies!!! (evil laugh)

[Iwant2kno]

I don’t think the lists are accurate. I’ve met nice guys who are more of the bad guy list you have. Sooo I’m not so sure 🤔

[dogman7q]

Id say it needs another category because am in between the two so am with her not accurate plus most bad boys are far from honest 😆 but look at what id say my chategory would be like by the way couldn't simply them all or decide so i described

First subject best said am kinda a geek so unless you share same interest am found boring

Confident

Sexually am not timid or aggressive i tend to take slow on that subject out of respect. might throw something sexual out if its ignored or badly looked at, i avoid for some time.

No judgmental

Genuine

Passive

Passionate

That ones hard i guess it depends. i have had girls i have liked that am shy as can be, and some that it rolls out to smooth and i end up going with it because am actually in motion, then i end up smothering them or making them uncomfortable or something sucks in short i screw it up lol. But allways honest

can't say afraid but cautious but probably looked at like am afraid.

I stand up for myself if it bothers me a lot of stuff people do to have you react and am not indulging them

I can care less what people think about me i can't change so screw it but not to confident only with girls tho :( I don't know

I do apologize a lot

Dont need approval

[SentientBrick]

Thats the problem with false dichotomys. They are rarely true.

[dogman7q]

Some come close

[SentientBrick]

Which ones?

[coachTanthony]

@Iwant2kno Maybe you are the definition of BAD BOY LOL.

[dogman7q]

The one's of birth sign allmost hits the mark on everyone i know not perfect but vary close

[Iwant2kno]

@coachTanthony, that’s what I initially thought but I realized that’s not the behavior of only bad guys, that’s also the behavior of some nice guys I know and I am conflicted about it. It sounds like the nice guy is the loser side and I don’t agree with it, sorry 😄

[dogman7q]

Well between exptions and all other things that make hard to put in two categories its not bad. But i will say iv noticed girls are attracted to bad boys, mostly because there more flashy and noticeable i think but when the nice ones are given the chance not judged in first 20 seconds i think it most would like the nice guys.

Tbh i dont know what side i fit on best i posted what from eacg side i fit was wondering if someone would say am one or the other becouse its about even traits from each side lol.

[coachTanthony]

You see the entire point of this exercise was to show how titles can throw people off. Just get rid of the BAD BOY and NICE GUY titles and break it down by the list.

The list on the left is what women want. The one on the right definitely not. Comes down to that.

[dogman7q]

Yup but kinda god off subject 😆 but wasn't alone

[strraku]

they r not nice guys they are bad boys

[Iwant2kno]

They are not bad boys, I think they are hybrids! 🤣 I just can’t decide for one side when I find something of both personalities attractive! 🤷🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️😄

[Iwant2kno]

I voted Other! 😆🤣😂 Just to stay neutral!

[strraku]

u r somewhat cool

[Iwant2kno]

@strraku , thank you 😊

[strraku]

u r also not accurate u r also both cool and hot

[strraku]

😊😊😊😊

[Iwant2kno]

@strraku, I can’t be accurate if the given options linear and inaccurate 😄 and thank you for the direct compliment.

[SentientBrick]

Why, why must you be gross. Is it so hard to not make a dry hump of a comment.

[Iwant2kno]

@SentientBrick, I’m sorry but I don’t understand your comment?

[strraku]

me too also I don't got whom is he asking to

[Iwant2kno]

That’s ok, I hope he elaborated in his point, because I want to understand. 😊

[Moonchild714]

He is completely off on the Types!!! No Clue only a woman can list an Accurate Bad Boy vs Nice Guy list.

[coachTanthony]

@Moonchild714 So if BAD BOYS was not above the list on the left... would you agree with the list?

[Moonchild714]

Take out Sexually Aggressive, Unapologetic, & Don't Need Approval that would be the Nice Guys List!!! Everyone Desires Approval!!!

[coachTanthony]

@Moonchild714 That's fair. Thanks for the response.

[Iwant2kno]

This is just how I view bad guys & good guys (you don’t have to agree):

Bad Boys:
-Exciting And Fun
-Decisive
-Sexually Aggressive
-Non-Judgemental
-Authentic
-Masculine
-Passionate
-Unafraid to Live
-Stand Up For Themselves
-Unapologetic
-Rebels, Arrogant, Egoistic
-Has almost no standards, limits and morals

[Iwant2kno]

The Nice Guys:
-Smart, exciting and fun
-Decisive and confident
-Respects sexual boundaries.
-Uses logic
-Is genuine and authentic
-Masculine & Passive
-Unafraid to live
-Knows his worth and don’t bs from others
-Secure and confident because he knows his worth
-Apologizes when he needs to, it’s part of being humble, accepting & learning from mistakes.
-Has standards and self worth

[Moonchild714]

You're welcome and thank you for explaining why you made the list the way you did.

[SentientBrick]

Its wasent directed towards you... I'm just being a grumpy ass, I apologize.

[Iwant2kno]

@SentientBrick , ok no problem! 😊

[Moonchild714]

Your Nice Guy list is very accurate.

[Moonchild714]

I would add Immature.

[Iwant2kno]

@Moonchild714, thank you dear. I think the lists are very flexible because everyone has a different perception and definition of what a nice guy/a bad guy is. 😄

[Moonchild714]

Right. Thid did turn out to be a fun convo.

[Iwant2kno]

@Moonchild714, yes indeed! 😄👍🏼

[Moonchild714]

First of all your Description of both are Wrong, Especially the Nice Guy!!! I don't lnow what kind of Nice Guys you've met in your life but you are way off base!!! You are describing Mama's Boys not Nice Guys!!! Most Nice Guys know what they want and are honest about it and People Respect Them!!! Bad Boys often are the Brooding kind keep people at a distance so People Fear Them more than Respect them!!! Bith can be exciting and fun one adds danger and the unknown to it. Both can be confident, decisive, indecisive, & lack confidence these are individual qualities not types!! Both can or can't Sexual, Judgmental, & Non-Judgmental again Individuality not a type!! Both can be Passionate most Bad Boys Lack Life Purpose to whereas Nice Guys have their Purpose or Goals figured out. Bad Boys are very Insecure and trult desire everyones approval which is why they do so many wild, crazy, and dangerous things. Nice Guys also want approval (Everyone wants Approval) but are quite secure in themselves and get approval in their Daily Living Doing the Next Right Thing!!!

I use to date Bad Boys but only Love Nice Guys!!! Bad Boys were for the Danger and to Piss Off Family!!!

[Jamie05rhs]

Well said.

[coachTanthony]

@Jamie05rhs Probably one of my favorite comments of all time actually!

[Jamie05rhs]

Awesome!

[Moonchild714]

@Jamie05rhs thank you

[Moonchild714]

Thank you coachTanthony.

[Jamie05rhs]

You're welcome!

[DizzyDesii]

Why tf are nice guys indecisive and doubtful? Lmao that shit kills me 😂 Its why me and 3 of them failed. Nice guys however are not boring and dull. Maybe emo guys 😂🤷‍♀️ Bad boys are more judgmental then nice 🤔 Nice guys are not meek. They talk A LOT and i love it. You just have to get them out of the shy stage first. Its ok if they’re timid cause so am I. Why would it say nice guys are inauthentic? Hardly anyones real these days 😂 Passive is ok but non-masculine pisses me off. I've met some masculine nice guys (like my ex). They lack purpose in life? Wtf who made this up. Theyre afraid to let women know what they want? Um no. I like that they can tell me what they want in a more gentleman way rather than the douchebags who’d say “drop to your knees and suck my mf dick”. Insecure/low self esteem? Welp at least we’re on the same page 😂 Apologize for everything? Lmao lies. Its so hard to make them apologize. The bad guys are smart enough to apologize so they can “get what they want”. Lmao i respect that 👌 Needy/seek approval? Im not bothered by that. At the end of the day, the only thing i like about “bad guys” is the fun and more dominant side. I dont agree that theyre more passionate, genuine, decisive, and honest. And the nice guys i know def dont let others “abuse” them. Maybe verbally, but not physically. Nice guys can fight and i like it 👏💪 i like to think my guy is a mix of bad/nice but mostly nice :D

[coachTanthony]

I guess as long as the man in your life "THE NICE GUY" is only getting abused verbally and not physically then it's okay?

[DizzyDesii]

No i meant guys in the past that were nice often got verbally abused but if it came down to physical, they could kick ass. Now the man in my life he doesn't let anyone walk over him. He stands up for himself in verbal and physical fights. But lmao look at this one

[coachTanthony]

Yeah I have seen that one. That is just as funny as mine! LOL

[DizzyDesii]

Its more accurate than yours although not spot on lmao

[coachTanthony]

Well the point of this poll is to show the biggest contrast between two types of people. Everyone will have their own accurate opinion on what's what I believe.

[dogman7q]

Id say it needs another category because am in between the two so am with her not accurate plus most bad boys are far from honest 😆 but look at what id say my chategory would be like by the way couldn't simply them all or decide so i described

First subject best said am kinda a geek so unless you share same interest am found boring

Confident

Sexually am not timid or aggressive i tend to take slow on that subject out of respect. might throw something sexual out if its ignored or badly looked at, i avoid for some time.

No judgmental

Genuine

Passive

Passionate

That ones hard i guess it depends. i have had girls i have liked that am shy as can be, and some that it rolls out to smooth and i end up going with it because am actually in motion, then i end up smothering them or making them uncomfortable or something sucks in short i screw it up lol. But allways honest

can't say afraid but cautious but probably looked at like am afraid.

I stand up for myself if it bothers me a lot of stuff people do to have you react and am not indulging them

I can care less what people think about me i can't change so screw it but not to confident only with girls tho :( I don't know

I do apologize a lot

Dont need approval

[CarpetDenim]

Nice guys, and I think the chart in the image you provided is complete bullshit. Bad just means bad. Nice just means nice. Bad doesn’t mean exciting, confident, honest, or passionate, and being nice doesn’t stop a guy from being any of those things either. My boyfriend is nice and respectful, and he’s also very fun, sexy, accepting of me and my flaws, genuine and honest, passionate, secure in himself and our relationship, dominating and masculine, and he has a very confident attitude and no fear of expressing himself or his desires with me. Nice =/= low quality!!

[Anonymous]

I think women's ideal man might be a mix of the two:

1. Desires fun and change but keeps in mind responsibilitys
2. Confidence tempered with cynicism.
3. Sexually forward but with consideration of her needs.
4. Open minded but not apathetic
5. Honest but capable of holding their tongue.
6. Dominant but not abusive
7. Passionate but flexible in thought
8. Knows what they want, but willing to sacrifice their wants for her needs.
9. (Rewording of #2)
10. Stands up for themselves but does not start fights for every imagined slight.
11.(rewording of #2)
12. Willing to apologize when they wrong someone but will not accept blame when in earned.
13. Appreciates approval but his sense of self value does not hinge on it.

Humanity's evolution bears out what is best for us. Hyper-Masculinity makes for abusive risky individual that is not a good reproductive partner. Hyper- emasculated man makes for a passive, skiddish and apathetic man that is not a good reproductive partner. BUT one tempered with the other makes for a more balanced human that gives offspring a better chance at success.

[coachTanthony]

You might be right!

[DevilsAngel]

The list is inaccurate. You have made bad boys lose their edge which makes them bad and nice guys as insecure mommy needing boys. The traits you have listed of bad boys are actually traits of a confident man which is insanely attractive. Let me give you a hint, bad boys are disloyal and are selfish. Your list lacks those terms. Also nice guys are considerate but are not timid and lack purpose in life. Seriously, where did you find this list? Also please change the titles. From bad boys to confident men and from nice guys to insecure meeks.

[coachTanthony]

The traits you have listed of bad boys are actually traits of a confident man which is insanely attractive.

Most men want to be bad boys... so I created a new BAD BOY for them to aspire to be!

[DevilsAngel]

And I was talking about the traditional bad boys and nice boys. You didn't say anything about it in your post. Bad or nice, confidence, honesty and kindness never go amiss.

[RolandCuthbert]

haha! The list is hilarious and the responses are even funnier.

It reminds me of when I did something similar.

What Are Masculine Traits? ↗

The list of course is subjective. But I was trying, like you, to get discussion going about what did people think. Maybe you will be more successful, because instead of talking directly about what we never speak of in this forum, which is "WHAT DEFINES BEING A MAN", you took an indirect path.

But I specifically wanted the males in at the forum to participate. The women could chime in. But because so many of the men at the forum think it is so healthy to be defined rather than actually have their own standards and definitions, I wanted their input.

[coachTanthony]

Seems to be working so far except for the but hurt guys who can't get over the list as being "purposefully" bias. I have to explain that to them LOL.

[RolandCuthbert]

Yeah, those are the same guys who argued with me about what it means to be a man. They did not want a list. And it was insulting to even suggest that masculinity even existed.

[coachTanthony]

Strange new world my friend!

[ScottSummers]

you two should get a room already

[coachTanthony]

@ScottSummers You should come with us big boy!

[ScottSummers]

No thanks delusional grandpa!

[RolandCuthbert]

@ScottSummers Feelings!

[coachTanthony]

@ScottSummers Maybe next time cutie!

[Anonymous]

I have met a guy who I really thlught was a nice guys and rejected him because they had the characteristics of the "nice guy" in the list. It was awful trying to be around them just because I assumed this is what I should date and I would have rather been single than be with a man like that just because he was nice. I have also been with a guy with the "bad boy" characteristics. When I met him I assumed he was a nice guy, he seemed to have morals and care about me and treat me well as well as respect others. I was really drawn to how happy he was around children, he would take his nieces out skating, to the movies and park and out for ice cream and always encourage them to get good grades and te them how much he loved them. He was so exciting and bubbly. I assumed he was nice but after so much time had passed it became clear he was not a nice guy but he also wasn't a "bad" guy. He just started showing his true colors and I didn't like it because what he wanted didn't include my best interest. But later on I talked to the "nice guy" and tried to give him relationship advice because he expressed wanting to cheat on his girlfriend and wanting to break up with her because she wouldn't have sex with him. He was completely wasting her time and all I could do is roll my eyes. Men are men. Whether they are nice or bad is not up for women to measure by what they say but what they do.

[hhues]

The bad boy is definitely more appealing than the nice guy list you've got here. According to this list, my boyfriend is a bad boy, except for sexual aggressiveness and unapologetic. He respects me and he knows when to accept that he's wrong.

I dont think most of the terms used to describe a bad boy are bad. The "nice" guy described here is terribly uncertain and immature. If you assume that the bad boy here is also respectful and understanding, that's near ideal.

[devilman666]

Why do men need to fill a gender role and avoid uncertainty in order to be mature?

[hhues]

In any gender, being:
-Inauthentic
-Afraid to let people know of desires
-Afraid to live life
-Let people abuse you
-Indecisive
-Insecure
-Very judgmental
is a sign of being immature.

It's not about gender roles, it's about being a productive person with desires and goals, and the means to achieve them. I am attracted to people with things to say, and people who know they can do them. Some women might prefer a man they can control, I'm not one of them. He's not controlling me either though, we both operate independently and love each other even more for it.

[devilman666]

Fair enough then, if you honestly expect that of both men and women then I can agree with that, those are all good traits to have. I'm sorry I misunderstood, I assumed you expected men to be certain of themselves just because of gender stereotypes.

[hhues]

No problem! With things like this it easy to see implications even when there may be none.

[hhues]

I hold even myself to the same standards.

[devilman666]

Good to know! Thank you for clearing it up in a kind way, I appreciate it.

[awesometjgreen]

I said other because it depends on the woman. Having an actual good girlfriend for longer than a week has taught me a lot about relationships. For instance we were standing outside once and this obvious bad boy type of guy drove by in his truck with these big wheels. He sped up as he turned out and of course everyone looked to see who was driving all crazy. I looked at my girlfriend, laughed and said, "that's a real man" in a joking manner. She turned up her nose and said, "ewww no way, I hate that". I was shocked because that's the same reaction previous women have reacted to my advances yet here I was with a girl who is into me and doesn't meet my preconceived notions.
So yeah everyone is different, just gotta keep looking for what you want

[cherryqueen01]

There has to be a balance. No one wants to date a jerk and most women who end up with a jerk (with exceptions of course) do that because they were fake-nice at first and hid their worst traits.
No one wants to date a fool either who is always happy and nice and gives you flowers everyday and compliments you every second and coddles you like you're a baby.

Also those lists are ridiculous. Nice guys aren't automatically insecure and needy and the only men in the entire world who are secure, masculine, genuine and don't need approval are not bad boys. Usually it's actually the genuine nice guys who are secure and stable, they're at peace with themselves and happy with their lives therefore they don't need to act like jerks to get attention. It's really the bad guys (and fake nice guys aka the ones who are only nice because they expect something for it) who are insecure and needy.

[ecfresh]

Change the title of the red list to “Men”. Here are 10 bad boy attributes, add a column for them:

Selfish, abusive, unlawful, dangerous, loser, uses others sexually, cocky, lying, substance abusers, criminal history

[coachTanthony]

The list is just for fun but I love how you think BAD BOYS all have criminal records... LOL

[ecfresh]

Ha ha I get what you are doing and agree it’s for fun. My image of a bad boy is a Harley driving smoker who is dragging his victim outside the bar by her hair because she made the mistake of talking to the bartender.

Having been in jail myself I can imagine a bad boy is in it for short term gains and has less respect for the long term outcome when making decisions.

[coachTanthony]

That is the point.. everyone has their own definition of bad boys, nice guys, good guys, I just like seeing people pee themselves trying to explain to me their definition. I want to say YES I understand but that's no fun LOL.

[The1Guy]

The listed nice guy traits are simptoms of a problem within society, the lack of adequate understanding of how to raise and teach boys to become confident and accepting of what they are, men. Education in western society is very female-centred. (Not that girls have it any better. It actually only seems that way).

I think, that most men manifest at least some of those traits at one or more points in their lives. But some suffer greatly.

There's no other way for them to live a happy and fulfilled life, but to face the fact, that the way they live and act is wrong and it will make it impossible to reach their desired goals in life.

[Clarity01]

The titles are wrong lol. It should be confident guy vs insecure guy. Bad boys make you feel worthless, and nice guys make you feel wanted

[coachTanthony]

Those are not the new BAD BOYS... the list on the right is the NEW and IMPROVED BAD BOY. You are now talking about JERKS who make you feel worthless.

[Tammy94]

Wow, where did these definitions in the picture come from?

For "bad boy" I could also list "sexually pushy and inconsiderate, domineering, uncaring, player, user, selfish, egotistical, reckless, irresponsible."

For "nice guy" I could write "sensitive, caring, respectful, generous, gentlemanly, responsible."

[Jamie05rhs]

Thank you!

[JustADuDuDude]

Honestly... with a list like that... do you expect anyone to say nice guy after that? Lol.

You've basically painted bad boys as confident genuine people who don't give a fuck, and nice guys as just idiots who have no life.

[coachTanthony]

You've basically painted bad boys as confident genuine people who don't give a fuck, and nice guys as just idiots who have no life.

Exactly! Nice observation. Nobody wants to be the stereotypical NICE GUY they want to be a bad boy so I just make a new definition of what one was. Be the guy on the left not the right.. thats all.

[AynonOMouse]

I have 10 of the ones listed on the "bad boy" list, and 1 from the "nice guy" list. I'm a good guy, not a push over, and not a jerk either so I don't match what many people think of the typical nice guy or bad boy stereotypes.

Yet I'm not a bad boy at all. Bad boys are the type that talk crap a lot and try to bully people they think they can get away with bullying, they cheat on their partners/have done casual hook ups, they party (drinking or drugs), and act like money is the best measure of someone's value.

[TonyBologna25]

I’ve always been good to the women I’ve dated, yet the left list applies to me in every way compared to the right. Hmm.. maybe people are actually multi multi-dimensional in their personality and not all men are of a generic cut out? Who would have thought you can have good values and morals and not be a pussy? Crazy shit man.

[Kru2020]

yeah that list seems a bit one sided. You're pulling a Fox news with this one.

[coachTanthony]

It's supposed to be. I don't know any bad boys who are needy! Just saying.

[Kru2020]

I'm not a bad boy by any means, but im confident and im probably the strongest in the gym i go to. Where does that put me? lol

[coachTanthony]

Not a bad boy by any means? Which attributes are you NOT from that BAD BOY list then? Just curious.

[Kru2020]

Lets forget this list. It's shining a light on "bad boys" that is not entirely accurate. I have a structured life and career and i don't do stupid shit. When i think of "bad boys" i think of alcoholism, bad choices and a heavy drug user...

[coachTanthony]

Ok well thanks for the comments!

[Ann-Sophie]

Jup, definitely not accurate! I know a ton of nice guys whit a ton of these 'bad boy' traits

[coachTanthony]

@Ann-Sophie Look here... this list come straight from the BAD BOY doctrine held behind enclosed glass in the museum of Characteristic Integrity.

100% accurate! Check it out yourself.

[RolandCuthbert]

@coachTanthony Too funny! I am in tears!

[morimeme1]

From your given picture - bad boy. But that usually is not the reality, bad boys are irresponsible, arrogant, selfish, judgmental players. Nice guys (and I mean really nice guys not just those who call themselves nice) are way better that described there, the way described there falls in another category - human waste.

[coachTanthony]

Okay take BAD BOY off of the list. Do you want the characteristics on the left in a man?

[kawaiiguineapig]

These lists are unaccurate to me. The "bad" guy on this list is my absolute dream guy, but I usually prefer nice guys in real life.

[coachTanthony]

Bad boy not bad guy. LOL

[Ellie-V]

The criteria listed above are inaccurate details of both “bad boy” and “nice guy”

[coachTanthony]

I just made a new BAD BOY for 2019 and beyond that women can actually like. That's all. LOL

[Ellie-V]

I’m sure you believe that. Kudos.

[Farawlaa]

I think that list is completely stereotypical and inaccurate.

[Moonchild714]

His list is completely wrong!!! Based on his list no woman can answer this Honestly!!! He has No Clue what a Nice Guy is or a Bad Boy!!!

by the way, coachTanthony their calledcBad Boys for a reason they haven't Grown-Up yet, whereas Nice Guys have Grown into Adult Men who take the Bulls by the Horns in Life!!!

[coachTanthony]

@Moonchild714 I don't mind discussing it. You won't respond back. You just keeping angrily trolling me which I find quite satisfying.

[Moonchild714]

Hahahaha, don't flatter yourself. I'm not Trolling you.

[Mamamialetmego]

All women here say nice guys are just flat out liers. You guys don't you understand no women ever will give their pussies key to you by telling to truth.

It’s not good for them evolutionary. Any man can fake that but they want real dominant bad boy type guys. They test you by telling you they want nice guys like you.

It’s all evolution. Women tell we want nice guys and then go to bad guys. Women tell we don't get horny to nice guys and then they scream and moan and worship dick under bad guys. Women tell we want someone caring to nice guys then never forget about bad guys who dominate them and making them their sex slaves.

Women lie all the time about their sexuality. It's evolutionary deffence mechanism.

Guys the day you don't want juicy sexy girls the day we can believe women into nice guys. But that day will never come.

[Anonymous]

Bad girls like bad boys
Nice girls like nice boys
Next

[WalterBlack]

The column described as "bad boys" should be called "normal men". Bad boys are called bad boys because they have problems with behavior such as being disrespectful to authority figures, having anger issues and impulse control problems, narcissism, alcoholism and other types of substance abuse, frequent high-risk behavior and sometimes criminal behavior.

[coachTanthony]

Normal men? Paleassssssssssssse

[WalterBlack]

The poll only lists positive qualities for bad boys and only negative qualities for nice guys, which creates a bias. I'm saying that in the real world, "bad boys" have lots of problems. Come on, they used a song called "bad boys" as the theme song to a show about criminals getting arrested (COPS). I'm not just making this stuff up.

[coachTanthony]

Creates a bias? Duh. What do you think I am doing here? I am trying to evoke emotional responses for people to get them to open up and comment. It's so funny how people say... the list isn't fair, or inaccurate or bias... if it weren't it probably wouldn't be promoted on the FRONT PAGE of GAG.

[WalterBlack]

Interesting.

[Alice2398]

I don't like how nice guys are portrayed as a weak, pushover. I see most "bad boys" and they are so up their own arse and immature it's cringe worthy.

There's nothing wrong with being a good, nice person and people shouldn't be shamed for it. I deliberately go out my way to avoid fuck boys and only go after nice guys who genuinely want a serious relationship and I know even if sex is at the back of their mind they'd be honest and caring with me.

[IlyaTheImpaler]

>tfw I'm everything on the right and people call me a villain

wtf

[coachTanthony]

Everything? Wow

[_Tou24che_l]

Overall, women want a nice guy, nice guys are respectful and considerate. However, being the extremely shy woman I am and based on your description of a bad boy and nice guy, I'll definitely go with the bad boy because my personality is in line with the nice guy and I would not want to date my boring self. I need adventure and excitement, and the bad boy would provide me that. If I was not so shy, nice guy here I come.

[Anonymous]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Co9Uf8PRBeg&t=104s

Women like assholes I maybe young even I can see this to be the truth already they may say they dont but they do, at least until they hit the wall then they will want a nice guy

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

They want nice guys all their lives. They just want the right kind of nice guy. You can be nice and not a pushover and a manly man.

[dressed2kell]

Am I 18? Then the answer is bad boy.

Am I 28 and a little bit slow on the uptake? Ok, well then the answer is still the bad boy.

Am I past 28 and have managed to remove my pretty head from my warm ass? Yes? Ok, great! Then nice guy x1000. Multiply that by infinity and boom! That's the correct answer.

[Tonytoutouni123]

No nice guy on planet earth should accept to stay lonely until women are older than 28+. The descriptions of bad boy and nice guy are complete bullshit by the way.

[BrittBratt2416]

I don't see how having those traits are considered "bad boy"? I mean most people want those type of traits in a partner- minus masculine for women when it comes to guys. But who doesn't want a guy/girls who is confident, unafraid to live, fun and exciting, stand up for themselves, and doesn't constantly need the approval of other people? I mean if that makes you a "bad boy" or "girl" then heck yeah, it makes total sense why a lot girls choose the "bad boy".

[lightbulb27]

I think can have most traits of the listed "bad boy" and still be a nice guy. It's core is self worth/confidence. Some of it is exclusive to certain types... e. g. physique, skill, intelligence will dictate how much one stands up in certain scenarios. Surivival is important and one must factor risks. Bad boys... often don't care, nice guys... probably do. But a smart nice guy can use his brain more, and that's hot to the girls!

[AndrewMG]

Why would you ask a question with 2 options where one of the options is massively affected by personal opinion? An idiotic definition of both a "bad boy" and a "nice guy" I know plenty of girls who are both attracted to bad/good boys.. hopefully none of them would be attracted to a guy who asks such a ridiculously worded question!

[coachTanthony]

Ha Ha Ha... you must be a nice guy!

[TripleAce]

Women like the hot guy that’s a bit above their dating league. It works for girls cause guys don’t mind casual dating. Ya she’s not perfect but she will do for now

It ends up being the bad boy because since he’s a bit above her in dating leagues she never gets a chance to really win his heart
And He always feels like he could do better

So the term got coined girls like ‘bad boys’
When it really just a mismatch

[datgirl]

Ew, normally i like nice guys with a bad boy streak, but with the list you have here for nice guys I'll pass and take the bad guy 😆

[coachTanthony]

Bad boy... not necessarily a Bad guy LOL

[datgirl]

Lol you know what i meant.

[coachTanthony]

Just making sure !

[Moonchild714]

His list is a Complete Lie!!! No Accuracy to it whatsoever!!!

[coachTanthony]

@Moonchild714 Why are you so angry? LOL

[Moonchild714]

Not angry, just annoyed at your inaccuracies!!!

[coachTanthony]

@Moonchild714 You assume I think they are accurate. I already know they aren't. That was the point of putting up the poll to get some emotional responses on what people really think. I have said it like 20 times in comments on the post.

Take away the titles and just go LEFT LIST or RIGHT LIST... what would people be attracted too the most... then nobody would have an issue and just pick left... but with BAD BOY above it.. people lose their shit!

[Moonchild714]

Yeah because Grown- up women like me have lived and know that is not Bad Boy Qualities or Nice Guy Qualities... I worry about the young ones on here that think that's all legit and make their minds up based on this.

[coachTanthony]

@Moonchild714 Men are too stigmatized with THE NICE GUY. No man wants to be THE NICE GUY. They want to be the bad boy so... I created a new bad boy to choose. Some women might not like a few on the list but overall it's a good list.

[Moonchild714]

You see women like me have gone through the Bad Boy Stage as most female unfortunately aa a rebellion against family social status. But when we Grow-up clean off our wounds we realize the Nice Guy is truly what we Desire!!! Women say they want the Bad Boy to Rebel and or Fix, many I thought I could Fix. Some did Change into the Nice Guy, then I didn't want him because he Fit my Family and Friends Expectations!!!

Women are Extremely Confusing I will give you guys that Clue, don't try to figure us out!!!

[coachTanthony]

@Moonchild714 I am around your age. I get it. I have guys sending me emails weekly in their 20's who have no confidence to get out of bed less try and figure a woman out. It's like we are starting from scratch with this new generation. It's tough.

Baby steps!

[Moonchild714]

I'm having trouble with this new generation male and female. Their mixing it all up LOL

[justsomeperson2u]

As much as I'd want to say nice guy, that bad boy list is spot on. Sexually aggressive is a must for me.

[patrickstarz]

Good girl

[justsomeperson2u]

Thanks?

[Anonymous]

That is not 'A Nice Guy' that is bullshit.
I am a good guy and I am not aggresssive or 'dominant' but I am fun, have a purpose in life, high self esteem and never lets anybody abuse me.
I have a girlfriend she absoultely loves me and I think of her as my world and we also have a nice sex life.

Like WTF that is a 'creepy loser guy' not nice guy traits.

And girls would prefer a 'REAL NICE GUY' over a shitty 'BAD GUY' anyday.
And also those are not "BAD GUY" traits at all.

[Ann-Sophie]

Thinking the same... this list is completely wrong!! Normally me too, I would go for nice guys but this list is crap... nice guys tell you what they want, they actually respect you and have goals and dreams

[DizzyDesii]

I agree that list hella confused 😂👏

[Opinion Owner]

Thanks girls for understanding.
That list is absoulutely not what a nice guy is like.
And I personally believe girls love real nice guys much more than bad guys.

[Blightly]

for this image, its all the positive stereotypes of being a bad boy and the negative stereotypes of being a nice guy. Throw some negative stereotypes of being a bad boy in there with some positive ones of being a nice guy.

what about the bad boys who are physically abusive to girls and those who use girls up and dump them while nice guys do the opposite.

this should be ideal bad boy vs deceptive nice guy

[Juxtapose]

The list is incredibly biased and is part of a troubling trend where people are afraid to even call themselves nice if they are nice.

Would you rather be nice or not? Think of all the people who did kind things for you and imagine if they lacked that empathy.

[coachTanthony]

You must be a nice guy?

[Juxtapose]

Not particularly, I value self-preservation above sacrifice, I'll tell people the truth even if it hurts their feelings, I make a lot of troll videos where I do sadistic things to people in video games on YouTube, I get bored if I can't have argument or contention for a while and so on.

I do favors for people I care about and generally treat strangers politely, but even mafia bosses will do that and few would say they're nice once they get to know what they have been up to

[coachTanthony]

Well that is pretty cool! My favorite troll is "ImMarksman"

[Juxtapose]

I'll have to check him out later.

But let's be real, "Bad boys" can be terrible, think of sociopaths or people who would cut someone's throat open just to get a few extra dollars. I'm sure assassins can be quite appealing if they are socially intelligent. Empathetic people can have charm as well however while unempathetic people can be boring and short-sighted, it all depends on the *individual.*

Generalizations are too short short-sighted in most situations.

[coachTanthony]

I don't disagree. The point of the post is to find out if women favor the characteristics of the list on the left to the list on the right. Most will say NO just because BAD BOY is at the top. Let's face it... take off the BAD BOY and NICE GUY from the poster and most would just vote for the list on the left.

[Juxtapose]

Well of course, just juxtapose how positive and negative each trait is perceived and the result will be obvious.

I'm sure a lot of genuinely nice people would take umbrage with the bad boys being given the positive traits of genuine and authentic.

The overall message comes off as: "if you are not a dominant 'chad' then any other positive trait about you is going to be twisted into something similar but negative."

A sexually submissive man all of a sudden becomes meek, as displayed by your list. I'm a switch myself and there is nothing weak about enjoying pain for instance. In martial arts, I could be put in painful joint locks and enjoy it, and that gave me a much better chance to escape them if they were improperly implemented because the pain compliance alone was not enough for me (I also have weaker nerve endings).

Meanwhile, women can be either dominant or submissive and none of those traits will be twisted negatively. "Bad girls" are seen as hot. Think of the edgy, gothic dominatrix who can make a guy's toes curl under her control.

Why us men Let ourselves be subjected to these double standards is beyond me. Excessively focusing on what women want instead of what us men what is not doing us any favors and only turns the dating scene into an example of an imbalanced power structure.

[Juxtapose]

*typos

[CandacePerry]

Most of it just a lie. I prefer to go with shorter guys since they don’t have much competition then other guys. Would prefer a good repectful guy.

[SexyAshh]

Ill take a bad boy over a nice guy anyday,

You just have to learn to tame them down a bit. Not hard and I've had no issues🤷‍♀️

If i wanted a nice guy from that description, id just be a lesbian

[Oram52]

What's your definition of bad boy? The description in the above list or something else?

[SexyAshh]

Yepp but i wouldn't call those description a bad boy, just my type of guy.

[IslanderSparkle_Siki]

Good boys go to heaven, bad boys bring heaven to you. Couldn't help it : )
I prefer a bad boy can be good for me only

[yucel_eden]

If you see only two options for women, then how on earth are you a coach? You haven’t even matured yet...

There are 3 categories:

bad boys
Brave men
Nice guys

Problem is most guys, maybe 90% including you see life as black and white. You don’t mature. They either are too shy and fall into the nice guy or do stupid shit and become a bad boy.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

Somewhere in between.
They want a nice guy with some of the traits that the bad boy has. They want him respectful, but assertive. They want him loving, but aggressive if necessary. They want the yin and the yang. "Balanced, as all things should be".
A pure nice guy or a pure asshole will never have too much luck. Even the asshole needs to show some affection if he wants a solid relationship.
This coming from a nice guy that got lucky once he got some of the asshole qualities for himself.

[Alyssa_K]

I think a lot of men can be both, they can bring out some of those both qualities.

[katiesmuff]

Always remember that there are Bad Girls who are just as Bad as any Bad Boy!
What most girls want is a guy somewhere between the real bad boy and the very meek good guy. Fortunately that makes up the vast majority of the male population.

[Tomsta]

Women love a guy whonis confident and has an opinion. The 'nice guys' in your list are actually doormats

Also id argue that needing external validation doesn't make you a nice or a bad guy. Just makes you someone who needs to learn to not need external validation

[lernulo]

On my opinion there is a huge advantage of nice guys on female term, good guy on male term which is really, really important.
Good guys know how to love, bad guys know how to use.
I think it's something never seen on those pictures, in fact, word love doesn't appear.
Question is, do you think women prefer to be loved or used?

[Marrry]

I voted for bad boy because of the lists given. in reality bad boys will ruin you and u will go crying to nice guys. If u find one to have the patience to deal wirh u u are lucky otherwise you stay alone

[powerfrust]

I was a nice guy once but realized I could take control so I did but now I am older I have learnt to balance it depends on my situation

[coachTanthony]

I think most of us were at one point.

[11110000bbbb]

Well a guy shouldn't be so nice or bad.
He should be genuine and not cocky.
Knows what he wants and is fun without being overly into like the party scene.
Overall he's got to be honest.
So overall he should care and not deceive.

[lifelearner011]

I've known nice guys who have qualities that aren't representative of those traits you mentioned in the right section. I feel it's pretty biased as if being "nice" is a problem.

[coachTanthony]

Well remove the word NICE GUY above the list... I would imagine those aren't traits you are attracted too right?

[Rob19977799]

omg not this nonsense again. why dont you flip the script around and do actual research on the broad and get a chance to talk to her and know her before you jump to idiotic nice guy/bad boy conclusions. Remember google can be your friend especially when looking up a broad online. And remember knowledge is power.

[Rob19977799]

And remember the golden rule of every guy NEVER STICK YOUR DICK IN CRAZY

[BlazeCraftWorks]

The world is fucked up in many ways. Women are blinded by unrealistic fantasies with terrible people that will ultimately lead to a terrible life. Bad boys aren’t good people, they’re terrible people who relish in the pain of others.

[Florancerose404]

My idea of a bad boy is completely different to what's stated.

I'd say a bad boy, is just more of a masculine man and that's why women favour them.

[Moonchild714]

Actually a Bad Boy is a Boy in a Man's Body, hasn't Grown-up yet!!!

[coachTanthony]

@Moonchild714 Wow you are trolling? Didn't take you for one. I responded to you but no response. Got it!

[Moonchild714]

Not Trolling, I was reading what Girls said, then I look in my feedback.

[coachTanthony]

@Moonchild714 Okay just checking... I thought maybe this was my lucky day HA.

[Florancerose404]

@Moonchild714

How so when indecisiveness, doubtful and non-masculine clearly signifies a boy like mentality. I want a man not a mouse, what use is a man who can't make his mind up.

[Moonchild714]

Boys also act out don't think of consequences or care about them lack rational behavior unapologetic unless there's an angle thinks the world is against and owes them impulsive...

[Ayer93]

Geez I consider myself a "nice guy" but I feel almost none of those traits apply to me except very judgmental and apologize for everything. I feel they make the "nice guy" in this scenario to have the most unattractive traits lol.

[coachTanthony]

You might be a "good guy" I think there is a difference. Everyone has their own opinions though. Just threw this up for fun.

[humanitarianz]

I honestly thought my last boyfriend was a nice guy, was shy and insecure. He treated me like crap.