Why do men sexualize everything and then feel no shame in it?

[chocolatetwopointo]

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And do you think there's any man out there who would choose to never have sex? ik all of y'all r gna blame it on testosterone, so ill ask a followup

[MisterWack]

As a guy, I pictured the woman eating a banana as sexual though it was literally because of the “sexualize everything” aspect that got me lol.

Okay so, men are more horny than women on average so that is one part to the topic. The second part is, men are more open about being horny than women & will sexualize things since they are more vocal about that while women tend to keep that stuff to themselves unless inquired (social media, colleagues, doctors/nurses asking medical questions, guys asking about her love life before having sex with her, etc.)

This is another aspect I just thought of, humans love finding patterns even if patterns don’t exist or making connections no one would think of…. Connecting one thing to another is very human, the guys having horny thoughts would obviously connect to sex more often than those not horny, same with horny women.

This is just my analysis, though to each their own.

[chocolatetwopointo]

ok so guys r js horny

[MisterWack]

@chocolatetwopointo It is horniness mixed with human behavior of attaching pattern recognition to form a sexualized conclusion. A woman can do it too, though men tend to be more “forward” & “outward” with the expression while women internalize it depending on circumstance. But yeah pretty much lol

[andreasderjuengere]

I see your age. You may still have some romantic illusions.

As a fact - sexuality and human desires have always been the major driving factors in history. I see no shame in this.

The shame that I see is when someone's actions and goals are dominated by it.

Because... there are some other things that are equally important when one attempts to live a useful and/or impactful life.

To ''never have sex'' as a life goal makes no sense. Without reproduction, there will be no continuity, and no ''evolution''.

But as one other fact: some men indeed choose to make no sense :D

(some women do so as well, by the way...)

[chocolatetwopointo]

so men should sexualise women and kids on the daily js bc its natural? my goal is literally to never have sex tbh, good thing i dont want kids.

[andreasderjuengere]

We are NOT talking about kids here, but about YOUR individual point of view.

Provocation ( :) ) ... don't we also 'nutritionize' a good meal? And is this wrong as well?
Is it not also that many women (not you, as much as I have read right now ) SEEK the sexual interest of men... and often exploit this to ''get married'', get ''improvements'' for their lives, and such?
It's usually a two-sided deal (with usually a one-sided advantage on the ladies' side)
But it's a deal that BOTH sides engage with. So if there's ''shame'' - then it goes to ALL participants.

Still - if a woman wants to be left alone, then I will respect it.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah some women do, bc they want that in their life, whats the problem? how is it an advantage for the lady? and wdym shame? ok good 4 u

[chocolatetwopointo]

I don't know how u got me talking ab sexualisation of women to women getting married, no woman will marry u if u tell her she has a good ass

[andreasderjuengere]

It was you who mentioned shame. My understanding of 'shame' is when someone acts in dishonour.
That's a misty word of course. In my own days it meant something that will put you into a bad reputation. That's perhaps only a European thing from ''the past'' meanwhile?
Now... please let me de-escalate a potential tension:
'''Marriage'' is only one (meanwhile inferiour) version of a relationship. These are fueled by mutual attraction. You perhaps think of ''lust'' only (probably even without any other point of attraction). But that's not what I have in mind.
My own sexuality only works when I have a personal connection in other details as well. There are certainly men (or... boys) who just ''fuck'' - that isn't me, though.
And after I had established a (mutual) connection, then ''sexualizing'' my partner is rather an additional compliment (along with other compliments, too) than an insult.

[chocolatetwopointo]

i dont really care and this makes no sense

[Libra97]

No they shouldn't. Unfortunately, many males do hide behind this hormone called testosterone but god forbid we ever try to blame our hormones for certain behaviours 😂😂

You will find that there are plenty men out there that appreciate intelligence over sex also. Just got to attract your tribe 🙏

[Anonymous]

Maybe not never have it, but most girls wouldn’t choose that either. And there are a few guys who will sometimes pick cuddling over sex, at least if that’s what the girl wants.

That being said, you’re not wrong. There are a lot of guys like what you described.

[Apple1996]

They sexualize everything women do because they see us as sex objects and not humans

[Shiprex]

No we don't. We accept what you do, avoid criticising it even when it's poorly done because we know the egos you have are fragile

[chocolatetwopointo]

but u do, maybe not YOU but other men.

[Shiprex]

Most men dgaf about what women do. UNTIL they interact with them then they are trying to read them and determine whether there is something that may result in a sexual encounter IF that is the context they're both in.

[Shiprex]

I see women drive, shop, walk, talk, DO EVERYDAY SHIT and don't think anything sexual just as the dozens of men around me do but of course women know men's minds better than men themselves... CH4 and a flame come to mind

[chocolatetwopointo]

as i said. maybe YOU dont. but other men do. I've been sexualised for simply walking once by a man. so no, they do care stfu and get out

[Apple1996]

@Shiprex you are a decent man then. a lot of guys can't even look at a woman without checking her out sexually

[Shiprex]

@Apple1996
I think I am a common everyday man, nothing special, checking out someone by noticing their positive physical traits isn't a sin is it? Why take something so positive and turn it negative?
It's not personal nor unnatural.
I am sure saying "Women check men's appearance and status out as potential sponsors of their lifestyle desires in spite of being in relationships themselves?"
That's a toxic misrepresentation of how women will judge men based on their clothing, haircut, language, demeanour, gait, etc., as how well bred and possibly WEALTH as a potential provider for their offspring.

WHY DO WOMEN JUDGE MEN ON THEIR HEIGHT AND THUS GIVE THEM NO OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP? There they are using physical traits to set their mating potential. It's ridiculous.

[chocolatetwopointo]

@Shiprex oh come on like you’d date a flat fatty💀

[Shiprex]

@chocolatetwopointo
I have dated a woman who was 50% heavier and same height as me. The flat chest wasn't there but that's not what attracted me or what put me off in the longer term

[chocolatetwopointo]

@Shiprex lmao yeah thats doubtful💀

[Shiprex]

@chocolatetwopointo
It was in 1999 and she was a Canadian nurse working in Florida, called Carla I went to visit and within hours we were at it. Took me to a bar the first night and had her hands up my kilt while sat at the bar.
Within months she came over to me and we were at it then ALL THE TIME. Probably the horniest woman I had known at that time. Overwhelmingly clingy though and became toxic and abusive when things didn't move as fast as she wanted.
So it was over.
She was about 90-95kg at that time, long blonde hair and a nice face.

[chocolatetwopointo]

still doubtful

[Apple1996]

@Shiprex you don't get it because you've never had to live as a woman and be objectified constantly. It's annoying

[Agape93]

Shit, my friend even sexualizes sandwiches. I shit you not. He uses them as sex toys.

[andreasderjuengere]

May I insert a ''yes, but..'' - when I ''sexualize'' a woman, then because I find her fascinating and inspiring in this respect.
Which not necessarily means that I will ignore her other qualities :)

[Apple1996]

@Agape93 oh god no 😖

[Agape93]

Yeah... subway in particular. Meatball subs.

[Shiprex]

@Apple1996
Likewise you've never lived as a man and seen a woman who you're not objectifying in spite of her being told by media that men are doing that all the time so they learn to fear men and treat men with disdain.

[Shiprex]

@chocolatetwopointo
Ahh, gaslighting again from more women toward men they don't know.
You've never lived as a man let alone me and therefore have no actual knowledge of who I have been with but of course because YOU don't want to accept it other's lives are therefore dismissed as being lies. Smh!

[chocolatetwopointo]

what gaslightning? if u say so🤷‍♀️

[Shiprex]

@chocolatetwopointo
Isn't gaslighting telling someone how THEY think in spite of YOU not living THEIR life like you know their mind better than they know themselves? ESPECIALLY on the internet

[Kingofkings1992]

@Apple1996 you said you wanted your husband to give you rough sex, And that you don’t like the “romantic shit.” Now, you’re complaining about men seeing women as sex objects, and not humans? Which one is it? It’s almost impressive how good you are at contradicting yourself.

[Shiprex]

@Agape93 Don't women have the monopoly on sex toys (inanimate objects) for actuall enacting of gratification while men only think it and may express it they're not shagging pumpkins or porking pies like women will grind their soft toy/pillow, stuff the lipstick, brush handle, etc.

[Apple1996]

@Kingofkings1992 i can't like rough sex and also want to be seen as human? 😂

[Agape93]

Never heard of flesh lights?

[Kingofkings1992]

@Apple1996 you can’t like rough sex, then complain about being perceived as a “sex object.” Those are two contradictory values.

[Apple1996]

@Kingofkings1992 lol how? Like you can have rough sex and still view that person as human rather than a sex object

[fish5505_87]

That's a little strong! its like me saying all blondes are air heads?

[Shiprex]

@Agape93 What's the rate of men having them versus women having a vibrator or dildo?

[Agape93]

Dude shut the fuck up and don't talk to me

[RingOfFire]

How can you follow up when you already understand that men have much more testosterone than women and that is the hormone that determines your sex drive.

Need any more be said to answer your question?

If you drink five shots of whiskey you can't resist getting drunk. So if you've got five shots of testosterone in you you can't resist being horny.

That doesn't mean that man sexualize everything all the time, but it definitely explains why they sexualize more things more of the time than women do.

Am I wrong?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[chocolatetwopointo]

sure it explains, and nobody would complain if they didn't talk ab it all the time. like how men cat call women bc they find her sexy, if they would’ve js let her walk, and the men thought to themselves ”oh she's hot” no harms done. but when u express it, thats when its a problem.

[RingOfFire]

In a civilized society that's the way things would work. And as chaotic as it seems, it's still a lot more civilized than it was at any other time in the 200 million year history of modern humans. There are lots of violations still, but for the most part men are required to control their natural instincts and most do.

[MySunflowerSophia]

I'm with @chocolatetwopoint wedges anymore (they're like fries but cut into apple slices) because a bunch of idiots wouldn't stop making inappropriate jokes about them. Cucumbers are ruined, bananas are ruined, and peaches are ruined too! I feel like I can't even eat fruit anymore!!!

[CaptainObivous]

We feel no shame because we don't sexualize everything. Most men do NOT sexualize inanimate objects or non human animals, the few who do, do it because they have a fetish. When it comes to humans, most of the time we don't sexualize, were too busy thinking about other things. This question reminds me of a BuzzFeed video where woman asked why men constantly think about sex (video got rationed for sexist stereotypes).

[chocolatetwopointo]

many do tho. yet men sexualise kids and women on the daily online and irl all the time..

[CaptainObivous]

Most don't, your just spreading a false narrative to paint men as evil sex crazed monsters. The only men who sexualize kids are pedophiles and they are a minority of men who deserve life in prison.

[chocolatetwopointo]

but MANY do. i mean, am i wrong?💀 all they think and want is sex anyways lmao. yh no shit? but did i only say kids?

[Shiprex]

You've been told by multiple MEN on here they don't, you don't like that answer then use examples of BOYS in school or whatever as examples to support your claim that has zero evidence base to support it.

[chocolatetwopointo]

oh yeah cuz 5 men = 4 billion. ur making 0 sense rn. boys r js younger men? and I've seen grown men do it. dont blame this on others.

[Shiprex]

Boys are immature men just as you're an immature woman. They're not developed or socialised properly so NO they are different just as women are FAR more into USING inanimate objects for sexualising than men are but they don't express it openly while men are less afraid of their sexuality and are more likely to express it in public.
Maybe if women learned to be OPEN about sexuality they'd have that in their minds more readily, be more into it more often and less sexually oppressed (their own selves are behind that) that they might end up enjoying it more readily instead of blaming men for them not getting satisfaction they feel entitled to when they complain.

[chocolatetwopointo]

boys r young men. and im a girl. yes bc women do it in PRIVATE where its acceptable, acting like men dont jerk off to strangers they see onlin everyday. or maybe, men could keep it in their fucking pants, how could this be womens fault? why would we need to be open ab smth so private? okay what the actual fuck. so ur for men sexualising KIDS and young girls? what. the. actual. fuck. wdym more into it? why would we wanna be more into it? oh yes blame men for touching, raping and sexualising us is such a problem.

[Shiprex]

Where is women's fault mentioned? YOU say MEN sexualise EVERYTHING and have been told by multiple men that's bollocks.
Boys are to men as babies are to toddlers as toddlers are to teenagers... get the drift? They're not the same.
Open about sexuality is about having it NOT be seen as shameful. THAT is another of YOUR assertions you get wrong. It's NOT shameful because everyone (you included KNOW people do it) being hung up about it is self inflicted and harmful to YOUR sexuality and not the fault of MEN or society.
Doing it is STILL sexualising THINGS whether expressing it or not it is STILL DONE and if you can't be open about it it's a hang up of yours. Just like EMOTIONS are all so great to express and share and that being around men who are able to manage and empathise and all those other behaviours women expect of men is THE SAME love language for WOMEN as SEX is for men.
Seems like feminism STILL wants to control MEN to behave like women and seeks male girlfriends in their partners.

[chocolatetwopointo]

oh my fucking god. once again, 5 men do not equal 4 billion. I've seen it happen and so has many others. i never said its ALL men, have i?
i do not care what someone is to u, im talking ab facts. a boy is a young man. the same way a girl is a young woman. end of discussion.
it is shameful tho. it should be. sex is smth u talk ab with friends, partners or usually in private, not with strangers esp not minors.
the problem is many men express it and tell little girls comments for doing such things. that is not okay on any level. why should i accept being sexualised, touched or raped js bc im not expressing my sexuality?

[Shiprex]

@chocolatetwopointo
You said why do men sexualise EVERYTHING when it's a ridiculous concept in itself.
A boy IS A BOY and not a MAN. Why can't you accept that either? I work with BOYS and girls in teenage years and THEY talk about things like quantum physics, video games and NEVER have I heard them talk about SEXUALISING anything even though there are girls all around.

What I do agree with you is about the adults being suggestive in front of minors though it shouldn't be off limits as they are at ages where if you make it shameful they will hold on to that shame so a compassionate and informative way of dealing with those issues is absolutely the right thing to do.
If there are people touching you and it makes you uncomfortable then you need to speak to someone in authority or say kindly and politely (you're a young girl so being aggressive will possibly trigger ah behaviour) that you are uncomfortable and would like them to stop. Being a bitch and screaming making a scene isn't wise until it becomes persistent BUT make sure you have people around you to step in adults ideally and probably other trustworthy adult MALES like teachers who may be aware but as male teachers will be very sensitive to stepping in to things like this due to potential consequences for them. Female teachers may be capable of helping but again they're not as physically dominant against some ah abusers.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yes whats the problem with ur first sentance?
a boy is a young man. thats biology. and u think they wanna sexualise stuff like that infront if an adult? fkn retard. obvi they won't bc they’ll get shit for it.
this is common sense. im not ever gna go out with my dad or my male teachers.

[Shiprex]

They're NOT they have different behaviours and different mindsets.
Where tf does it get out that you GO OUT WITH ADULTS ffs? I said WHEN someone does something you find offensive DON'T act like the spoilt brat you are being here with them. You're being immature and that approach is infantile.
Have an adult that can deal with someone making you feel uncomfortable or DON'T hang around with boys if you're going to act like you're immature.

[chocolatetwopointo]

obviously, but they’re still the same thing. js age difference. ”other trustworthy adult MALES..” in ur last paragraph. u probably meant school, but i dont only ever go to school yk. i won't act immature bc ik they might get angry.
im not gna go out with an adult all the time. i dont talk or hang with boys, i think we’ve made that pretty clear

[Shiprex]

How tf can you experience this if you don't go out with boys? You make no sense and are just making shit up to be angry at because you don't even know wtf you're on about.

[chocolatetwopointo]

bc I've SEEN it happen u retarded fuck🤦‍♀️. ur seriously the stupidest person I've ever talked to on here, and that says a lot.

[Shiprex]

LOL so you've not experienced it only seen it and have zero grasp of the concept of how age changes people's behaviour and that you're demonstrating the same level of immaturity that is evident your comprehension of things is suspect.

[chocolatetwopointo]

omfg💀 so i need to be sexualised to know it exists? r u fucking serious? as i said, I've seen it happen plenty of times, thats enough proof.

[Shiprex]

JFC lol you're on some rampant mental gymnastics course aren't you.
SEEN it happen without knowing context and that because you felt "violated" at someone elses experience, you're throwing tantrums and abuse as well as outlandish toxic claims that you've no ability to back up but still keep coming back here for attention
Get a grip
@chocolatetwopointo

[chocolatetwopointo]

r u fucking serious? in what context would sexualising a kid be okay?

[Shiprex]

@chocolatetwopointo
Where is anyone saying that apart from your addled mind? It's even greater attempts at olympic level mental gymnastics. You aren't even sticking to the same thing by conflating adults with children eating banana with suggestive commentary and sexualising children.
Stop smoking whatever it is you're smoking and grow up.

[chocolatetwopointo]

no joke. but ru like high rn? ur making no sense. and pls answer this seriously, is English ur second language? ur making no sense at all?

[Shiprex]

LOL You know you're hilariously comedic but I don't think you realise just how bonkers you come across as.
I'm the one using proper English with grammar and you're using some playground text as a teenager on a digital forum where textual communication with context is not as easy as facial expressions and body language can pass across.
You've said "making no sense" multiple times and not once referred to anything specific about things I've said. Try harder @chocolatetwopointo
I get it you're enjoying the attention and that's fine but it's getting boring now and I don't want to ignore you because you're quite funny (honestly hand on heart making me chuckle)

If I said Scots was my first language would that make you smile or scowl?

[chocolatetwopointo]

you’ve alr said that yk. sure, but ur still not making any sense. bc nothing of what u say makes sense, like everything in the message should be somewhat connected, but its not, so it makes no sense. so ur js gonna ignore EVERYTHING I've said?
if u said that, i would not care tbh.

[Shiprex]

I have ignored NOTHING that you've said and addressed it all above. YOU just don't like it because it's clear and you're angry that it's disagreeing with your bigoted and irrational opinion.
I don't want to be rude and call you names about it because I know you're not a bad person BUT you keep blethering on about stuff that's been clearly explained just NOT the way YOU want it to be.

[chocolatetwopointo]

you have ignored plenty of my statements. im not angry at all. 🤦‍♀️ please reread my questions and my responses and maybe one day you’ll get it! im way too tired of a man ignoring every problem until it comes to them. bye

[Shiprex]

@chocolatetwopointo Ok No I am not high and have never consumed a cigarette or narcotic drug except when given it for medical treatment.
in reverse order a lot of your making no sense at all with a question mark at the end AREN'T questions so answering them is with a shrug.
I answered what my language is and YOU didn't answer back. How rude.
"You said why do men sexualise EVERYTHING when it's a ridiculous concept in itself." you asked what's the problem with that sentence. There is none. Unless you can spot something in it that is a problem.
Boys do not want to sexualise stuff in front of an adult but may in front of a girl they're trying to either engage with, get a rise out of or flirt with.

[Shiprex]

Going out wasn't what I meant because I said that IF someone does something that makes you uncomfortable then GET AN ADULT to resolve it NOT go out with them (I hope you weren't thinking about hanging out with adults in a social context apart from family gatherings)
You should NOT be expressing your sexuality toward adults in the first place. I think I answered that above as well.
" boys r js younger men? " not a question just another wrong statement by you.
"but MANY do. i mean, am i wrong?" yes you're wrong. Some do and they are wrong for doing it and get a whole lot of shit if they're found out and not just from police because a lot of adults will take a seriously dim view of any adult behaving in a suggestive inappropriate way toward or around children

[Shiprex]

The rest is your angry rants and unfortunate feelings toward men. That's unfortunate for you as you will miss out on the most benevolent elements in society, the ones who will change your tyre when you get a flat, step in to a situation where someone is pestering you and they see you're uncomfortable, make way for you if you're in a rush and need help getting stuff that's heavy, difficult to reach and touch to move, save you when in crises, protect you should there be a need and probably die for your life to go on in safety and comfort but those guys you won't and don't recognise or notice. They're all around you doing their life without bothering anyone quietly without fanfare.
I hope you meet one someday but you probably have just didn't notice him

[236color]

We have more testosterone in us than women do. Testosterone is the hormone the results in sexual desire. Chemicals in our blood drive us crazy with horniness, so we do and say stupid things. Yes there are men that never want to have sex, not many, but some. The thing is, if they never want sex, women are completely unnecessary.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah but everyone can keep it in. can't blame that one on testosterone

[Cormac995]

Because men find dirty jokes and other such things funny. It's really not that deep it's just funny that's basically it. Dirty jokes are as old as humanity. I'm not even kidding when I say we have tones of examples of dirty jokes from ancient Rome some from records some from archeological finds. Dirty jokes are funny to men, they've always been funny to men and they always will be.

[mstbooblover]

Are you sure only men sexualize everything? Everyone has sex in one or another way, and it's the basics of life's instincts. Taboos and many forms of education often make things worse by frustrating natural tendencies.

Depending on our mood and circumstances, even unwillingly, many objects and situations remind as well men as women of something around sex. No reason at all to feel any shame, at least if no harm to anyone is intended.

[BobbieBoy666]

Men's sexualization of everything and lack of shame is a complex issue. Some men may sexualize inanimate objects or non-human animals due to fetishes, while others may not sexualize anything. The sexualization of feelings can differ from healthy arousal. Some men may be starved of normal positive interactions, leading to a different mindset towards relationships. Sexual objectification can have destructive effects on men's mental health and self-esteem.

[Spencer10]

I think women can sexualize things too. I have it on good authority that when women get to together they would make the average men blush... the difference is women have better self control then men and keep their thoughts private until the timing is more appropriate.

[HighlyQuestionable]

I am that man. I find crude sexuality distasteful. Testosterone is just a hormone, its effects are easily mitigated by the conscious mind. The desire to fall in love and be with the one you love, that is something entirely different. No one should be cheated of finding love.

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay?

[Staximus]

If you have some sort of past trauma you need to deal with, you should talk to a therapist instead of looking for reasons to hate all men and live like a nun. If you don't then maybe you should just become a nun or a lesbian or both if men disgust you that much. If you never want sex then no man or woman is going to want to be in a relationship where they are not desired. You might as well just be friends.

[chocolatetwopointo]

haven't got any. read the womens comments now.

[leahzrc]

I don't know but I am gonna be lesbian real soon because it's actually sick how much men objectify that I exist

[Summeroflove]

Moss don’t lol. Very small percentage of men do and women can do it as well.

Most men are thinking about a lot of other things besides sex.

[Anonymous]

What is the best thing about being a girl?

Read the comment by the asker and then u'll know why men sexualize... such women do not have anything else to offer other than their bodies... and only such women are sexualized... so from next time before pointing out towards men, just look a bit into what women are offering too...

[chocolatetwopointo]

so u think women r js objects? u have to be a little smart to realise those r fucking trolls u retarded fuck.

[Opinion Owner]

Here u are the retarted idiot… women themselves are objectifying themselves…. Loser…. Just see what women hv to provide before blaming the other gender u moron dumb shit….

[chocolatetwopointo]

omfg🤦‍♀️ are ALL women objectifying themselves? a little 5 yr old girl is NOT sexualising herself. tell me.

[Opinion Owner]

Exactly…. Now you got the point…. Similarly not all men are objectifying women…. so it’s better to blame the peraon and not the gender…..
Anyways, the laws against such crimes have also been brought by your so called “evil men” only…. So try to know the difference between good and bad people and not generalise the whole gender…

[chocolatetwopointo]

yet ur blaming all women tho.. there's more bad men then there are pornstars yk.

[Opinion Owner]

most women have accepted seducing their superiors in order to get promoted or even get a job... so u can imagine urself if its men objectifying women or are they themselves doing it

[chocolatetwopointo]

LMAO ”most” okay give me ur source then. its 100% men.

[Opinion Owner]

Girls, have you ever sucked your boss for extra pay or maybe to retain your job? ↗
see the answers... now prove your 100% men claim

[chocolatetwopointo]

ah yes 5 women are ”most” u do realise there's 4 billion women on earth right? a question like that isn't a reliable source and we dont know if they could be lying either. okay sure, then i can show u a question ab men.

[chocolatetwopointo]

u can check basically any of my questions💀

[Opinion Owner]

look who's talking now... now u know how it feels when based on a portion of people you judge the whole gender... u just had the taste of ur own pill...

[chocolatetwopointo]

as I've said. there's a huge difference in the women who have sucked cocks for work and men who rape, murder and kidnap etc. guess which one is higher.

[Opinion Owner]

So something that’s is low doesn’t matter? Anyways i rest my case here…. Nonuse of talking to dumb shit who reports your opinion when shez proven wrong🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣…. Such a loser attitude

[chocolatetwopointo]

omfg u really r retarded🤦‍♀️u js proved in 5 ways u didn't understand, probably didn't even read what i said.

[Opinion Owner]

Yes you’re right… whatever you say is right…. U’ve seen the whole world you must know what is right…. May god bless u

[chocolatetwopointo]

proved my point, once again.

[Opinion Owner]

Lmao..🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Agape93]

Because that's how society teaches them to be. Women are objects for men to enjoy then shame.

[Gwendoline]

Boys will be boys.

[Crazyced]

1st I'll say you wording is not accurate, might as well also claim that every woman have baby fever. 2nd A lot of women who get on testosterone therapy get a small window into the answer

[ChicoFromThe305]

It's a lack of self control, in its own ways, people should learn to tell the difference on what to say and what not to say, they call this thinking with the wrong head

[Makeushiver]

Why would I feel shame about sex. I've never had a lover who didn't get as good as she (they) got.

[Shiprex]

Huh?

Men don't do that. What makes you think they do?

[chocolatetwopointo]

r u fucking serious rn?

[chocolatetwopointo]

u have to be fucking kidding me rn💀

[Shiprex]

I'm siting on my sofa that I am NOT sexualising, the table in front of me is not sexual in the slightest, the television to my left is not sexualised and the gym workout I am about to do is not sexual in anyway. That's just a tiny bit of a not sexualised EVERYTHING in this man's life that you're ignoring

[chocolatetwopointo]

u have to be kidding me💀 men sexualise EVERYTHING esp what women do.

[Shiprex]

No we don't, that's some ridiculous mental gymnastics you're doing there

[chocolatetwopointo]

yet other women agree with me… look at the one woman who responded, and then come back in a few hours to see what others say.

[andreasderjuengere]

On a humorous side: ''fucking'' serious and ''fucking'' kidding are sexualizations as well, in some way :)

[chocolatetwopointo]

in this context its not, so no🙂

[andreasderjuengere]

There you have an answer, then :D

[chocolatetwopointo]

how is that an answer?

[Shiprex]

ONE woman and YOU telling men that THEY know MEN'S mind better than the MEN themselves?
Are you paying attention to what you're saying? Gaslighting is not a genetic formality because you lack a Y gene.

[chocolatetwopointo]

personally I've heard loads of comments from men sexualising esp kids, even more on the internet. so id say im pretty sure.

[Shiprex]

The key words here are ON THE INTERNET like that's something NOT trying to get a reaction

[chocolatetwopointo]

so? its still disgusting. and as i said, I've also heard it irl multiple times, js more on social media.

[Shiprex]

Well maybe you're the one with the sexualisation mindset when everything others say is somehow sexual innuendo.

[chocolatetwopointo]

wdym? how is it not sexulisation by talking to a girl who’s eating a banana sexually?

[Shiprex]

If you're eating it sexually and he notices how is HE responsible for YOU'RE behaviour? (eating it sexually)
You are aware that there is a long connection between bananas and blow jobs. It's been used in adverts since forever so it's hardly surprising that unless you're eating it with a knife and fork then you're going to eat it sexually:

Try snapping it in half then peeling the skin and putting it in sideways to see if the same "sexualisation" interpretation occurs. You could always try the whole thing sideways to show a smily or a sad face if that's your thing.

[chocolatetwopointo]

i dont think a kid would eat a banana sexually. and why the fuck would anyone do that? ah yes cuz women r supposted to do everything bc men can't keep it in their pants, r we shocked? not at all. its like its always been. men get what they want js bc they’re men. wdym with ur last sentance?

[Shiprex]

What? Are they getting a bj because you ate a banana in a suggestive manner?
NO, they NOTICE you're eating it suggestively, point it out to you, you get offended because you didn't want them to notice you were eating it suggestively but wanted them to see you do it instead.

My last sentence is a way to make eating a banana not suggestive by eating it in a way that is more comedic and off the wall bonkers that instead of thinking you're eating it suggestively to get their attention and instead a comedy genius who is quirky and observational.

[chocolatetwopointo]

OMFG IM NOT TALKINH ABOUT ME. I WIULD NEVER FUCKING DO THAT. I AM TALKING ABOUT INNOCENT KIDS U FUCKING RETARD. seriously. why are men so fucking retarded. IM. NOT. EATING. ANYTHING. SUGGESTIVLY. NEITHER IS A FUCKINH CHILD.

[chocolatetwopointo]

u cannot be this retarded seriously?

[Shiprex]

LOL you're describing a situation as if it WERE you ffs. Try being concise and clear and whether it's MEN or BOYs you're trying to disparage.
You used the example of eating a banana and I've carried that on because its about the maturity level of YOUR communication skills.

[Shiprex]

Ad hominem is further evidence of immaturity in communication. GROW UP

[chocolatetwopointo]

ur literally saying ”you” obviously im going to take it as in ur talking ab me💀 what? its both? both men and boys? wtf? im talking ab when a KID K-I-D is eating a banana and a man sexualise it. and maybe even comments on it. retard.

[Shiprex]

JFC can you not grasp how writing in the first person is easier to relate to?
You used girl eating a banana as an example and said YOU'D heard thing IRL (in real life) so putting 2 and 2 to get 4 is hardly a jump off the planet.

[Shiprex]

As for the men sexualising everything notion.
Which gender is more into USING inanimate objects for sexual gratification?

[chocolatetwopointo]

u gotta be clearer, not my problem u can't write🤷‍♀️ what ab my example?
u tell me, i dont know why anyone would need to know that fact

[Shiprex]

Is English your second language? Or are you on something?
Basic concepts clearly explained and you're struggling with them I can't understand it for you. You stated MEN SEXUALISE EVERYTHING as it written in YOUR query. SO I and others have told you you're wrong and then you bring up an incident that you're describing as a child eating a banana and another child saying something suggestive. That's not MEN SEXUALISING EVERYTHING, that's a BOY being crude to another child (girl I suspect as it's you because you MAY have been eating it in a way he figured was suggestive and YOU probably did too. When you were called out you took offence and it's embarrassing for you so you're trying to switch the blame around on the observer for observing someone doing something intentionally suggestive.

So rewriting your query in a more likely format

Why do women constantly perform everyday acts in a lewd manner in front of boys just to get attention? And when they're noticed they claim victimhood because men are such pigs?

[chocolatetwopointo]

u didn't explain tho.
bc oh my fucking god. js bc u and some other men say it doesn't mean no man ever does it. I've seen plenty of it. i never said a child says smth innapropriate. it can be grown men. seriously when did i say a child sexualises other children? what? i have never done that? and seriously WHY would i eat a banana suggestivly? i have never in my entire life done that. ah yes blame everything on women cuz men do no wrong. fkn retard. i never got called out since its never happened to me. and once again. never have i or any other CHILD eaten a banana suggestively.

OMFG WHY DO U BLAME EVERYTHINH ON WOMEN?
i am talking about when GROWN MEN comment on a 5 YEAR OLD GIRL eating a banana. this has never happened to me i have seen it and heard it happen tho. a 5 yr old wouldn't eat a banana suggestivly. IM SO FUCKINH DONE WITH MEN. fkn retards

[Shiprex]

READ YOUR QUESTION AGAIN then ffs
You're going off a one off maybe did maybe didn't happen thing YOU might or might not have thought you heard and you say MEN SEXUALISE EVERYTHING. BE specific as it's a fucking bore trying to decipher wtf you're actually getting at.

Now you're getting to a specific incident about a 5 year old and someone saying something inappropriate and YOU*VE chosen to label that ONE incident as a defining trait of MEN because you're toxic and immature.
Grow up

[chocolatetwopointo]

OH MY FUCKINH GOD. U CANNOT BE THIS FUCKING RETARDED MAN.
yes bc i have seen it and heard it, as I've said 5 times now… ur making seriously no sense, is English ur second language? if its not, ik damn well u failed English.
it has always been the same example ur hs fucking retarded. as I've said now, SIXTH time. i have seen and heard it happen PLENTY of times, meaning MORE THAN ONE. so no, its not js ONE. GOD I HATE MEN.

[Shiprex]

YOU said a ONE off example of an inappropriate comment made about someone eating a banana that was neither aimed at you nor have you specified exactly what was said JUST your interpretation of what it meant.
Examples or it is another "things that happen in your imagination for 200 please" query
This also does not mean MEN you've said yourself BOYS trying to tie boys and men into the same narrative.

[chocolatetwopointo]

so u seriously believe that has never happened? boys and men r the same js different ages. accept it.

[Shiprex]

FFS do you read? I said you heard of or heard directly a comment that you've not been specific about and you're making a ridiculous generalisation then getting pissy because you're called out on how ridiculous it is.
MEN of different ages are not the same. A 80 year old is different to a 50 year old is different to a 30 year old and an 18 year old is different to a 15 year old but you seem ignorant of that because you're immature and angry.
There are absolutely men who are inappropriate and that's a pity for those who are subject to them just as there are women who are cruel and abusive and inappropriate who get a lot more breaks for their bad behaviour around minors than men do. No one is standing up for any of that but you're ranting crap about half the population (the half most likely to step in and deal with shitty situations and put themselves at risk in case you didn't realise) which says more about YOU and your misandry than anything else

[chocolatetwopointo]

well I've heard the one example i gave. how is that ridiculous?
omfg🤦‍♀️ a boy is a man under 18. a man is a boy over 18. not that fucking hard. THEY’RE STILL THE SAME THING. may not have the same mentality or maturity but still the same.
not many men would stand up for girls. yk that damn well. we both know you’d never do it.

[Shiprex]

Men are not boys because they've got different mindsets and things going on in their bodies just like a girl is not a woman. Neither girl or boy is fully emotionally, socially or psychologically developed until well into their 20s.
It's totally wrong that men would not stand up for girls just look on Yt about social experiments and see who steps in when a girl/woman is being harassed or even shouted at. THEN see how the same thing happens when it's done in reverse. Your mind will burst.
I've personally stepped in to a girl and another girl fighting and had to endure their terrible behaviour when separated. I've also dragged boys away from girls being viciously abusive while boys DIDN'T even retaliate.

[chocolatetwopointo]

omfg🤦‍♀️ men and boys r the same thing js different ages, maturity levels and different mindsets. why r u still on this?
ah yes u believe those staged stuff?💀 naive asf. shows ur retarded, again.

[Shiprex]

THEY ARE NOT the same.
These things are not staged. They are tests and show the way society has bias based on superficial perception. You only need to go and do it yourself and you'd quickly find no one steps in to a man being abused and women being saved
Delulu is your middle name it seems

[chocolatetwopointo]

yes they are, and yes they are🤦‍♀️ ur so naive istg. nobody would step in, everyone minds their own business in sweden, and if somebody did anything to me i wouldn't want anyone helping me, i could do it myself

[Shiprex]

@chocolatetwopointo
AWWW you're soo cute in your ignorance. Living in your world would be such an escape from reality. I hope you are capable of protecting yourself I know when two dudes want to put your ass into hospital they'll not stop kicking you in the head till you can't get up and stamp on your body to make sure you're out that you're able to do that. As a girl worse could happen and that would be awful but if you're sure you can stop that then good for you. Don't scream or run kick their ass and end their reign of terror. They do it for power whether your male of female.

[chocolatetwopointo]

omfg🤦‍♀️ they’d obviously not do it if anyone was around. so nobody could help me anyway. ill accept my death.

[chocolatetwopointo]

and u honestly think a man would even care if that happened? if anythinh he’d join in and assult me

[retarb]

It's not so much that everything is sexualised, and moreso lack of modesty has lead to women doing literally anything being an eyegrabber.

[chocolatetwopointo]

you couldnt tell me three things women do that men can't and hasn't sexualised.

[HungTexan]

I think it’s just a guy thing. Many men are raised that way. Fortunately, for me, I wasn’t.

[DrPepper12]

Middle school mentality never leaves when we're together. Well show that side to her when we're comfy with her.

[grega239]

Women sexualized only fans, twitch, ig, twitter, haloween costumes, casual clothing. Dont blame men for what women do.

[chocolatetwopointo]

seriously what makes u think that?

[grega239]

Men didn't make women prostitute themselves on the internet.
Women did that because it pays well to be a whore.

Men didn't make women wear sexualized costumes. Women did that because it gets them attention a free drinks.

And ig premium was made specifically for 18+ content

[chocolatetwopointo]

and whos paying them exactly?💀
stop watching porn then. then pornstars will stop and get broke and everyone will be happy, no?

[Anonymous]

sexualizeing everything is a little much hate to break it to ya buddy but not every man is a total pervert

[Manuelwe]

Actually you find qirls and women who sexualise items like banana and do on

It is a part of the fitting game

[chocolatetwopointo]

but im talking ab men.

[Manuelwe]

And that is who is replying

[chocolatetwopointo]

yet ur bringing up women. the one time its ab men and u wanna avoid it. basic man, trying to run away from responsebilities.

[Manuelwe]

If a woman is rubbing a pencil between her breast. Looking you in to your eyes. That means she wants you to go a sex act on her.

But if you are talking about smut. That is adult male jokes. Then I sudjest You ignore it.

Smut is jokes about sex using non sex things as sex objects like banana.

What you should complain about the women who get paid to act out these jokes.

YES MATURE BEAUTIFUL 21 TO 30 YEAR OLD WOMEN.

Not girls

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay? am i talking ab that? no.
women and girls r basically the same idc

[chocolatetwopointo]

and im talking ab men in general saying sexual things to women and girls doing normal stuff. fkn retard.

[Manuelwe]

So what are going to do about those women who act out the fantasy. In the picture you use or given. It is a blonde woman sexualise the banana, not a man.
So what are you going to do about it . You should complain to gag for choosing a picture that make your point stupid

[Manuelwe]

I know you love me. But it is clear that you are jealous of sexy big breast women who know how to turn on a man.
A lesson you still have to learn
Or your girlfriend

[chocolatetwopointo]

nothing? what would i be able to do? what? wdym picture?

huh? wtf r u on ab?

[Manuelwe]

Your like those women who would do porn and call it an art film.
Your argument is lost by the picture gag used. Loser sent you.
And as I told you before. I will leave you the final word again.
But this is the answer you wanted to to answer but did not.
Remember

[chocolatetwopointo]

no? porn is porn idc what people do with their lives.
i didn't even know they added a picture, but when i saw it, it was js a blonde woman eating a banana? whats the problem?
no answer my questions. its not that hard.

[Manuelwe]

Part 2

Well my sister boyfriend had a secret that soon we all discovered.
He came from northern city. But left in shame.
It turned out he finds children a sexual turn on. He is a convicted paedophile. His youngest victims were one year old.
His mum and late dad like to blackmail their victims too.
So when he had to go, He had videos and photos of my sister doing sex acts on him.
I heard she paid him money to stop the only fans account. But he took her money and left the sex videos and pictures on site.

End of Parr 2

No matter what sex you are or age too. If you read a romantic book and start to get wet between your legs or start an erection.
Kate Winslet Helen Mirian and even Belle Berry got Oscar's in What we call dramas, though others call porn.
Book , art , ink , words and so on.
The picture shows a woman putting a banana in her mouth but looked into the camera at you. But if she was not in the picture. Then it is only a food object not a sex object.
Like some people find women breast feeding sexy. But feeding from a bottle not.
Imagination

[chocolatetwopointo]

i seriously dont care? wtf r u on ab?

[Manuelwe]

There is no fool like you bye

[chocolatetwopointo]

what?

[Steve-the-lion]

Why should a man feel shame in being sexual? If you don't like it then stay single and go live on the moon.

[chocolatetwopointo]

bc if u tell a kid something sexual for eating a banana, why should you not feel shame? tell me. im waiting. and i would LOVE to live on the moon single, how u wanna bet some man comes up and rapes me?

[Steve-the-lion]

Being sexual to children is a different kettle of fish. But in general a man shouldn't feel ashamed of his sexual desires.

[Anonymous]

Men are genetically programmed to be sexual. If they weren't, the human species would have gone extinct ling ago.

[chocolatetwopointo]

so? why do they need to bring us into it? and thats not an excuse.

[Opinion Owner]

Oh, I see. You're too young to understand how sex works.

[chocolatetwopointo]

no ik how sex works. im asking why dont men have self control?

[GAGsucksballs89170]

Last I checked, there were female strip clubs too. Girls who go to see naked/half dressed men

[chocolatetwopointo]

yes bc its a place that is sexual💀 fkn retards

[GAGsucksballs89170]

But we have feelings too

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay? whats ur point

[Knightwatch27]

Uh oh, she's back. With as stupid a question as ever.

[chocolatetwopointo]

see how every woman agrees with me?

[Knightwatch27]

Every woman being two. And your only response to critique is "u fUcKin kIdInG mE". You reason as what you are, a child.

[chocolatetwopointo]

js wait a few hours. bc this is common sense💀 men do sexualise everything. if they didn't have the rapes of the world wouldn't be happening.

[Knightwatch27]

Rape is either a bad culture or a lack of clear values from a good culture. Far from all men sexualise women all the time and women sexualise men just as much. Sorry, end of story.

[chocolatetwopointo]

lmao ok so whats ur source?

[Knightwatch27]

journals.sagepub.com/.../1363460720967657
www.economist.com/.../the-sexualisation-of-men-not-women-in-film-has-worsened
ifstudies.org/.../promiscuous-america-smart-secular-and-somewhat-less-happy

Having to put you in your place now. Last one is particularly interesting. The higher iq women have the more promiscous they are in far greater capacities than men.

[Knightwatch27]

By the way, where are the tons of women agreeing you promised little girl?

[chocolatetwopointo]

that wasn't what i asked the source for, obviously ik men r sexualised. where does it say js as much as women sexualise men?
they’re right there, r u like blind or smth? even some men.

[Knightwatch27]

Geez louise, you aren't very bright.

[chocolatetwopointo]

what do u not understand this time🤦‍♀️

[Anonymous]

I dont have sex since I have social phobia i feel uncomfortable with women. I am mostly and like being alone.

[jethalaal]

Men are more physical and sexually driven. If he is not committed to you or anyone and he sticks around you it's obvious he thinks about you when he wants to jerk or do anything.

[MikeRJ]

Some men (and women) are celibate, and not all men sexualize everything.

[The_Iceking]

I mean I honestly try my best not to do it, but in some cases it is really hard cause our second brain down there just takes over.

[Anonymous]

Because they are perverts but I'm asexual so I have no desire sexually

[Anonymous]

The same reason Women Sexualise themselves and feel no Shame.

[chocolatetwopointo]

usually bc they’re strippers and OF creators, so r men also doing that?

[Opinion Owner]

No because most Men are not strippersand OF creators.

[chocolatetwopointo]

so then its not the same💀

[Anonymous]

This day and age a lot of men do it very crazy and a lot of them don’t know how to treat women right.

[Dargil]

Why should we? Sexualizing is in our DNA.

[chocolatetwopointo]

how is saying to a kid ”good job” while eating a banana not shameful?

[Dargil]

Or licking the contents out of a taco vertically.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah, how is that not shameful

[Dargil]

Ya gotta eat!

[chocolatetwopointo]

dont feel like it if there's men around, I don't know what they’re gna say.

[CaptainObivous]

"how is saying to a kid ”good job” while eating a banana not shameful?" It's not shameful when it's your kid and they have a habit of only wanting junk food and your praising them for eating something healthy.

[CaptainObivous]

It's no different than telling a kid good job for eating their vegetables.

[chocolatetwopointo]

im talking ab grown men saying that to a 5 yr old STRANGER. not their daughter or sister. fkn retard.

[xkildy]

LOL, this is a funny pun right.

[zagor]

Because girls make our penis's hard.

[chocolatetwopointo]

oh so the little 5 yr old girl makes ur penis hard?

[zagor]

Of course not. She'd have to be at least twice that.

[chocolatetwopointo]

oh so u are a pedophile? proved my point. all men r the same.

[convo_king89]

It’s in our dna to fuck to pass our genes

[chocolatetwopointo]

is it also in ur genes to sexualise and touch kids for eating a banana?

[convo_king89]

Well not gonna lie I’m sure some guys get off on that. But we can be interested in different things.

[chocolatetwopointo]

so u think its ok for men to say that to young kids? MINORS?

[convo_king89]

I not saying it’s ok, but it’s just reality some people are like that. This reminds if that show “to catch a predator”

[chocolatetwopointo]

no its not in ur nature to be a pedophile stop excusing pedophilic behaviours.

[TonyMetal___86]

I don't know, do they?

[chocolatetwopointo]

r u retarded or smth?

[TonyMetal___86]

Thanks for your respect towards me!
My conversation with you is over!

[chocolatetwopointo]

answered my question

[TonyMetal___86]

Learn how to be polite and respectful first, especially i'm at the age of your father, my son is older than you!

[Redstang88]

Why would be ashamed of anything?

[Johnkramer98]

as if women dont...

[chocolatetwopointo]

that wasn't my question.

[msc545]

Sex is generally not worth the cost.

[Britney2002]

Cause women do it also.

[chocolatetwopointo]

tell me when women say ”good job” to a little kid eating a banana.

[Britney2002]

That’s creepy. Their lot of creeps.

[chocolatetwopointo]

no fucking shit. its sexualising a kid. fkn retard.

[CaptainObivous]

How is it creepy if it's your own kid who has a habit of refusing to eat anything but junk food and your praising them for eating something healthy?

[chocolatetwopointo]

what? im talking about SEXUALISING fkn morons istg

[CaptainObivous]

When someone resorts to name calling that's a sign they've lost the argument.

[chocolatetwopointo]

so ur js ignoring my response? ill call whatever tf i want.

[Anonymous]

But, to be fair, women do too.

[chocolatetwopointo]

OMFG THESE MEN. the only time the focus is only on men, THATS when they bring up women. ur so fucking selfish until it comes to an actual problem. god i fucking hate men.

[Opinion Owner]

Yes, you’re being so rational. Why don’t all these men just hate themselves?

[chocolatetwopointo]

retard

[dudeinohio]

I don't

[chocolatetwopointo]

then why r u here

[dudeinohio]

Entertainment primarily