Why You Should Go Vegan (Page 3)

[Anonymous]

Sorry but where's your proof vegans live longer? It would literally take over a hundred years to prove something like that since you have to study someone who is a vegan and someone who eats produce from livestock or the livestock itself and you have to know it isn't from other variables. Sorry but that second point is B. S. You don't have the science to back it up. Meat and other products from animals is fine in moderation. I doubt the people who have lived the longest in the world were vegans.

[doodlecake]

I like meat. Fuck those animals. God gave them to me too eat and they taste damn good. Besides they are mindless soulless beings incapable of thought. So I don't feel bad about eating their flesh. I don't believe in animal torture, but I'm a meat eater, to be otherwise is against nature and against my brain.

[Anno_Domini]

I'm not a vegan, but you've clearly never spent time with animals. They are very much capable of thought and intelligence. Just look into an orangutan's eyes and tell me they don't have souls.

[adquidorator]

"Besides they are mindless soulless beings incapable of thought. "
Not according to the worlds leading neuroscientists who in 2012 agreed that at the very least every bird, mammal and cephalopod is conscious in the same sense that we are.

[doodlecake]

@Anno_Domini I've spent time with animals, but I am of the same mind. Besides, I don't eat apes. But I don't care about chickens or cows. They are meat, and I am higher on the food chain.
@adquidorator
Well those neuroscientists are wrong, I'll believe them when a lion shoots me with an M16 assault rifle.
They are not capable of love, or ideas, or having a dream to be something more. They just have genetic programming to eat and reproduce.

[Anno_Domini]

Dogs are capable of unconditional love. Humans are not. Let that sink in.

[adquidorator]

"They are not capable of love, or ideas, or having a dream to be something more. They just have genetic programming to eat and reproduce."
Most tribal people don't do much more than that, but yes they are capable of love, they have the same parts of the brain/neuroreceptors that we do that are responsible for feeling love. As for a lion shooting you with an M16
THEY DON'T HAVE APPOSABLE THUMBS!!!

[doodlecake]

@Anno_Domini ... Okay it sunk in,
1) I don't eat dogs.
2) I suspect it's due to evolution, if they 'love' their masters it's good for survival.
3) I love my mom unconditionally. I mean, unless she was a serial killer. There is nothing to stop me from loving her.

[Fearless_banana]

Nope.. veganism isn't very healthy. Most guys I know that are vegan are complete cultist that look frail and weak. I will always and forever eat meat and diary.

[Takada]

The comments on this MyTake are fucking cancer-inducing.

[adquidorator]

Ditto that, so much idiocy -_-

[Takada]

@adquidorator It's just a MyTake on some reasons to go vegan, no personal insults whatsoever. And people are freaking out about it. Shows how insecure everyone is.

[adquidorator]

My thoughts exactly :D

[ThatBritishLad]

You forgot to mention that you're a vegan. I wonder if meat eating animals ever think about veganism?
They don't do they?

[ASexyPotato]

most people who decide to go vegan do so because they are so dull in personality that instead of feeling the need to relate to human beings they find more sympathetic value in being on a one sided relationship with farm animals then actually going out and making real friends.

[ASexyPotato]

real medical research proves that eating meat is better for your neurotransmitter health since on meat protein contains the amino acids responsible to make these neurotransmitters. these neurotransmitters are responsible for mood and many psychological disorders, which is why vegans are three times more likely to suffer from anxiety, depression, eating disorders, and many more. Often the babies of vegan mothers die from a vitamin deficiency when they are breastfeed, and pregnant woman are also recommended by their doctors to eat meat as a medical concern regarding the health of the child's brain.

[Josht11]

Vegan mothers do fine and have low levels of complication. I don't think you a 14 year old know jack shit about why people go vegan and meat increases risk of heart disease and cancer.

[nog6422]

@Josht11 You got a source for that claim?

[ASexyPotato]

@Josht11 people think that by going vegan, they are saving animals, but actually, by eating a tofu burger, you actually aren't doing jack shit to help animals. Also, they thing that Veganism is better for you, even tho there is no real published medical research done that proves it in any way shape or form.

[xobrowneyedbeauty]

babies of vegan mothers do not often die of vitamin deficiencies. you can get the essential amino acids needed to make neurotransmitters from many fruits, vegetables, grains, vegetarian protein sources, etc. the age the woman's ob/gyn is is a better determinant of if they will suggest she eats meat - the older the ob/gyn is, the more likely they are to suggest it. but prenatal vitamins exist for a reason. the fetus's brain can develop perfectly fine if the mother is a vegan, given she gets the proper prenatal care and takes vitamin supplements. and actually, these supplements are even suggested to women who do eat meat because the body needs more of the vitamins to support the growing fetus.

your opinion is your opinion. if you think all vegans are boring, that's totally on you. i think there are plenty of interesting vegans in the world, but that's me. i just had to correct your facts. kudos for knowing what neurotransmitters are at 14 though, that's pretty impressive.

[orphan]

@xobrowneyedbeauty a diet that requires vitamin supplements... pretty much says it all

[xobrowneyedbeauty]

@orphan vitamin supplements are recommended to every pregnant woman regardless of whether she eats meat. you stopped reading my response a sentence too early. :)

[orphan]

@xobrowneyedbeauty getting your b12 from fortified foods is about as unnatural as it gets.

[xobrowneyedbeauty]

@orphan most people, vegans and meat eaters alike, consume some types of fortified foods. there's nothing wrong with fortified foods. almost anyone who eats breakfast cereal is eating fortified food. i get that a meat eater (or even a vegetarian) who also eats all their fruits and vegetables will be obtaining their nutrients more "naturally." but plenty of people who eat meat also need vitamin supplements because a lot of people just don't eat right. i never said a vegan diet is the healthiest or most natural diet, i was just making corrections to some assumptions about it being detrimental to health.

[orphan]

@xobrowneyedbeauty fortified food is processed food.

[xobrowneyedbeauty]

@orphan plenty of organic foods have vitamins added to them. if we want to start getting into the nitty gritty of things, it's possible to do that with meat too. plenty of meat and dairy products come from animals who were treated with artificial growth hormones and consumed genetically modified foods. some meats have preservatives, nitrites and nitrates (which are a risk factor for gastric carcinoma), and food dyes added to them, among plenty of other things.

[orphan]

@xobrowneyedbeauty sure meat can be fortified with additives, but it's not required for optimal health. the point is a vegan diet on its own is lacking. is it worth it? sure. hence its popularity.

[electromagnetic]

I'm not vegan per say. But I don't even meat in general. I hate eggs and I'm lacrosse intolerant so those are out. The only thing I eat is seafood. I guess that makes me Pescetarian.

[Noxifer626]

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[06CuriousMind]

i understand where you're coming from. I hate how animals are treating on animal farms; its disgusting. But i also think there is a food chain set up for a reason that helps maintain population size. I dont think i could go a day without eating meat.

[myTake Owner]

I agree with you, food chain does exist. And honestly I would have no problem if people treated those animals better and in a more humane way. It's a known fact that our brain wouldn't make it this far without meat, but people also need to remember that thousands of years ago people were hunting, not producing meat in factories

[Josht11]

there is but t do you not realise meat is fucking that up the animal life is fucking massive because of un-natural human change and rainforest is being cut down for this shit delicate ecosystems.

[Hemoglobin]

Here will be a triggering opinion, but I do think dogs and cats would be better off if humans consumed them. There are many dogs and cats in shelters that have miserable lives (because of the no-kill policy) so they’d be better off being eaten by humans who don’t have food.

[Anno_Domini]

Our planet sadly has too many people on it to sustain an *ethical* meat-based diet.

Is it possible for a guy who is chronically anemic to be healthy on a vegan diet without having to supplement with artificial vitamins?

[Anno_Domini]

The truth is... Humans evolved to eat meat (we're omnivores). If we hadn't eaten meat, we would probably still be living in caves, because our brains wouldn't have evolved nearly as much.

[adquidorator]

We have no traits in common with omnivores that omnivores don't already share with herbivores -_-

[Anno_Domini]

@adquidorator doesn't change the fact that the human brain wouldn't be as developed as it is if we were herbivores.

[adquidorator]

And that doesn't change the fact that evolution isn't contingent on past circumstances.

[nikki_24]

I absolutely hate veggies so it would never work for me. I love meat a lot. Burgers, chicken, bacon and turkey 😋

[Josht11]

fuck was thinking of doing this mytake but much longer with studies guess I'll wait a few more months.

[Kiwedin]

Wow, people hating on vegans so much when we're literally the one's saving the planet that they're so ignorantly destroying.

[Sasha_Kotelenets]

Animals have been eating meat since the dawn of time. Why is it okay for other animals to eat meat but not for us? Exactly, just cause you're vegan doesn't mean you're better than everyone else.

[Kiwedin]

@Sasha_Kotelenets Correction: carnivores and omnivores have been eating animals since the dawn of time, and contrary to what many choose to believe, humans are 100% herbivores. Eating animal products is against our nature, and as a result, it causes and increases our risk of many debilitating diseases and has been a known cause or at least linked to 12 of 15 leading causes of death in the U. S.
That being said, humans evolved to be much more intelligent than other animals and thus developed a profound understanding of ethics and morality. Knowing that humans do not, in any case, require animal products, this means that the killing of animals is unnatural, abnormal, and unnecessary. Animals are sentient, they feel pain, they feel fear, and they have a strong desire to live. On top of the harm eating the bodies of non-human animals causes, it's also the leading cause of global warming and environmental destruction.

[Kiwedin]

@Sasha_Kotelenets Research it, there are great resources here: https://essenaoneill.com/#/veganisminfo/

[Sasha_Kotelenets]

The sun can cause skin cancer, smoking causes lung cancer, improper diet can cause cancer and so on. Anything can cause cancer but there is no link between cancer and meat, there's very little evidence of that. If we can survive without meat then how come without it we would be pale, anorexic, and deficient in protein, iron, and vitamin B12? (I know a vegan girl at my school who's really pale and looks anorexic) I have done my reasearch. I will never go vegan. We need meat. If no one at meat then the animal population would grow out of control and we would be eating chemicals from supplements and vegan products.

[Sasha_Kotelenets]

*ate

[Kiwedin]

@Sasha_Kotelenets That's not true, processed and red meat are considered carcinogens and have strong mechanistic evidence backing them up. You've said it yourself, improper diet causes cancer and you're completely right, but animal products are not part of a proper diet. Vegans have the lowest rates of cancer because we don't consume these animal products that contain exogenous hormones, N-nitroso compounds, heterocyclic amines, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, casein, large amounts of methionine (an amino acid that can cause cancer if too much is consumed), and also raises an individual's IGF-1 levels (insulin-like growth factor 1, increases risk of cell mutation and lowers cell turnover rate, resulting in cancer). Animal products do increase risk of cancer, there's no denying that. Your risk for cancer is raised by 18% when you consume processed meat, even more so when you consumer other animal products. Processed meat is listed as a class 1 carcinogen and so are cigarettes.

[Kiwedin]

@Sasha_Kotelenets So you know one vegan person and all of a sudden you're an expert on all vegans? Do I look pale, anorexic, or anemic to you? How about Fully Raw Kristina, Rawvana, Ariana Grande, and Miley Cyrus? They all look plenty healthy to me and all of them are vegan. Trust me, I'm in University studying Nutrition and Dietetics, on my way to becoming a Registered Dietitian. Vegans are not in any more risk of developing these deficiencies as anyone else. There is not a single essential nutrient that can't be found in plant foods or from non-animal sources, including B12. Do you even know what B12 is? It's a bacteria found in soil and it's injected into livestock since they aren't allowed to go outside and eat it themselves. Even if they could go outside, we're also facing a huge problem called soil erosion, which makes the soil void go nutrients and the leading cause of this is animal agriculture. No one needs meat. We'd all do better without meat.

[Kiwedin]

@Sasha_Kotelenets The only reason there are so many animals in the first place is because we breed them. We artificially inseminate the females and then kill and/or kidnap their children. Think about it, if people stopped eating meat, it would be a slow process allowing plenty of time for farmers to stop breeding such large amounts. Of course, you're 13 and probably won't be taking an economics course anytime soon, so I'll leave you with a little term you can google called "supply and demand". If demand for meat decreases, the farmers will lower their supply, since they lose out on profits if there is a surplus of any given product. Cows, chickens, and pigs will not suddenly overrun us and take over the world lmao. What makes you think we'd be left eating chemicals from vegan products either? You've never heard of apples before? How about potatoes, lentils, beans, broccoli, spinach, pineapple?

[Sasha_Kotelenets]

By chemicals I mean things like vegan butter, vegan milk, vegan pizza, vegan cheese etc. If we were all forced to go vegan then prices for food would rise like hell, since we would need more transportation to import/export vegan goods it would cause more pollution, since no one is going to eat animals, the animal population would grow out of control, and countries where food is scarce only would have meat and if they were forced to go vegan then they would end up starving to death because they have nothing else to eat. If our pets would be forced to go vegan, you're actually killing them in the slowest way possible, especially cats since they're carnivores. If everyone went vegan our world would be destroyed.

[nog6422]

@Kiwedin "humans are 100% herbivores" Where the fuck did you get that? Humans are omnivores.

[Kiwedin]

@nog642 That's what they teach you in school, but they forget to mention that humans are behavioural omnivores, not physiological omnivores. The labels (omnivore, herbivore, carnivore, frugivore) that we give to animals does not refer to what they are capable or incapable of consuming, but refers to the diet that allows the animal to thrive. A lion (carnivore) thrives on consuming flesh and would become ill if too many plants were consumed. The lion can digest small amounts of plants, but too much and his/her digestive system would suffer. An omnivore (dog) can consume plants or flesh without suffering from digestive issues (minus the select foods, like chocolate, avocado, onion, garlic) and can thrive on either a completely plant or flesh diet. A herbivore (gorilla) thrives best on a completely vegan diet, but does have the ability to digest meat if it comes down to it. However, if a gorilla relies on meat for too long or consumes too much, he/she would become ill, just like humans.

[Kiwedin]

@nog642 Animal products do not allow human beings to thrive. We can survive just fine, as would a gorilla eating meat, but it’s not healthy for us. Animal products (meat, dairy, eggs) have been found to cause or at least be linked to 15 of the 16 leading causes of death in the United States. This includes heart disease, malignant neoplasms (cancer), chronic lower respiratory diseases (emphysema), cerebrovascular diseases (stroke), prescription drug side-effects, Alzheimer’s disease, diabetes, nephritis, nephrotic syndrome (kidney failure), influenza and pneumonia, septicemia (blood infection), chronic liver disease and cirrhosis, essential hypertension (high blood pressure), Parkinson’s disease, and pneumonitis due to solids and liquids can all be prevented and reversed through a plant-based (vegan) diet. The human race thrives when animal products are left off our plates and this is a scientific fact.

[Kiwedin]

@nog642 Humans are anatomically and physiologically herbivores, or frugivores to be exact, meaning that we thrive on a fruit or starch based diet. Our brain is fuelled by glycogen which we derive from carbohydrates, we sleep 8 hours per 24-hour cycle, we have a small mouth opening, our jaw joints are located above the plane of the molar teeth, we have great lateral and forward mobility in our jaw, our canines are rudimentary, short, and blunted, our incisors are broad, flattened and spade-shaped, our molars are flattened with modular cusps, we have smooth tongues, large salivary glands, we have an alkaline pH, we require fibre to stimulate peristalsis, our small intestine is 9 times our body length, we have flat and blunt nails, we cool ourselves through sweat glands, we walk upright, it takes 12-18 hours to complete digestion, and we can’t metabolize too much cholesterol -all of which are characteristic of plant eaters. Humans are herbivores/frugivores and thrive that way.

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

sorry, you must've confused how many people are in my profile pic with how many fucks i give. if you want to know how many fucks i give, you have to take the derivative of 2...

[chintita]

that cow looks really edible

[adquidorator]

Yeah, try killing it with your fearsome claws and ripping into its bloody raw meat with your canine teeth and return to the kill every now and then over the course of a week as the flesh putrefies and each sitting consume 10-20% of your won weight in one sitting and when you eat the meat, swallow it whole and then tell me how "edible" it is.

That's how ACTUAL carnivores AND OMNIVORES eat meat :)

[Conrad_Kelsiven]

Well, interestingly... raw beef is fairly safe to eat if the animal was healthy when killed, and proper precautions were taken while butchering. Also, there are countries in the world where animals are left to dry 'naturally' (without additives or artificial heat/cold) in the open air.

Apparently that meat is pretty safe to eat too. Just sayin.

[adquidorator]

@Conrad_Kelsiven But animals don't carefully butcher their prey they rip into it and eat meat that's been sitting out in the hot sun for days.

[Conrad_Kelsiven]

... but we are animals... and we DO carefully prepare our food. Being human does not separate us from being part of nature. If you truly do not consider us wild, then also consider that many tribal cultures have been practicing cannibalism for ages. Humans have been hunting and killing animals for far longer than they have been cultivating and domesticating plants. Our teeth are designed for eating both meat and vegetables. Meat provides essential sustenance that requires a combination of plants to reproduce- and it is only modernly that we have such an array of vegetable life to choose from.

Going by 'nature' then we are a primarily carnivorous race, as shown by the native American tribes people that lived mainly off of buffalo, and countless other groups that come from regions lacking in cultivation.

One could even go so far to say that our modern diet consists of FAR more plants and vegetables than was sustainable in ancient times, due to our own advancements.

[adquidorator]

@Conrad_Kelsiven "Our teeth are designed for eating both meat and vegetables. "
No they're not, not even close (FYI are canines are vestigial)

[MSamu3l]

@adquidorator I suppose the snakes that strangle or poison/liquefy and swallow their prey whole are also not carnivores. After all, all carnivores must have "fearsome claws", "canine teeth to rip bloody raw meat", "eat exactly 10-20% of their own weight in one sitting" in order to be an "ACTUAL carnivore or OMNIVORE".
I'm not here to argue with you about the morality of meat eating because we already had an overly tiring argument on that. However, you need to stop putting out fallacious arguments that are based on super weak logics. Like I said before, if you are going to claim that humans have the capacity to be vegetarian, I have no problem with that. Saying we are not omnivores because we don't behave like wild cats is pretty illogical and extremely naive in the face of evolution.

[adquidorator]

@MSamu3l Snakes aren't mammals and we are, pretty much all terrestrial mammal carnivores have these traits.

[DesiUwU]

I wanna be vegetarians but my dad and brother are next level carnivores and couldn’t give two shits about all of those reasons

[ElissaDido]

Nah, humans ate meat since the begging of times, it's in our nature...

[TheDevilInside]

One reason to not go vegan: to not satisfy people like you.

[Oxi112094]

I applaud this lifestly very much. However, I love meat and cheese too much lol. Especially taco bell <3