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You have to find a balance between encouragement and harassment. I'm a fitness guy, I work out 5-6 days a week, obviously my opinion would be that people should make their health and fitness top priority. I don't like "Fat Acceptance" per se, I think it should be encouraged for all of us to be fit, not even for superficial reasons, but just for your overall health. So much of healthcare in the US is based on treatment instead of prevention, and I think that's ass backwards. The healthcare system makes bank off of widespread obesity, so I don't think it's a priority for them. Why would they want to cut profits for blood pressure and cholesterol meds, diabetes care, etc? It seems like everything is geared towards making money at the expense of our health. Watch a football game and note the commercials: beer, soda, potato chips, takeout pizza joints... all garbage. At best, they'll advertise some pseudo-healthy yogurt with as much sugar in it as a bottle of Coke. I saw an ad for avocados and I almost fell out of my chair. We're taught to eat a balanced diet to some degree but then I think the commercials and convenience of fast food win out, and that needs to stop. I'm not saying you can't order a pizza once in a while, but your body is going to reflect what you eat most consistently. I feel like a lot of people don't have much personal discipline, and that's what really needs to change. Obviously we're all built differently, different genetics, but 99% of us are 100% capable of being fit. You don't have to have washboard abs, but just keep it reasonable, and not for me or anyone else, you should want that for yourself. You wouldn't walk yourself into oncoming traffic, so why would you set yourself up for health problems with something as controllable as your diet and lifestyle choices? And if you're a parent, you should instill this in your kids. Again, you don't have to get them ready for a decathlon, but just simply teach them to make wise dietary choices and at least stop and think before drinking that Pepsi or having that second cheeseburger. You can still live, just don't go crazy and eat bacon with every meal. I saw this yesterday and got a laugh, but really, it's sad. Kid looks about 8 years old and he's double-fisting some kind of candy or meat on a stick or whatever, cruising on a hover board, on his knees no less, because god forbid you make the kid walk anywhere😒
Oh, forgot my overall point: as much as I encourage fitness and discourage poor diet and lifestyle choices, you gotta let people live their own lives. Being a dick because someone is heavy doesn't help anyone. Encourage someone if they ask for help or advice, but other than that, you can only live your own life. I think "acceptance" is more about just having general respect for people. I think it's foolish to not prioritize your own health, but I think it's important to be respectful of everyone. Mocking someone's weight isn't cool, and it's not going to help them. I think most heavy people know they're heavy, and probably don't need mockery on top of it.
I think people with weight problems should be taken more seriously. Like special rehabs and such, it's devastating to their health and often their lives as well. I'm not sure about forcing them onto fat loos camps but the camps as an extension of health care and voluntary is a good idea.
Here's my take on the whole situation.
1) Do you I believe that obesity is attractive? No I don't. I think many shapes can look attractive with good proportions, from the skinnier side to the heavier side but still in the range of Healthy.
For example: This is obese and I don't find it attractive, I don't want to have a body like this.
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On the other hand, these girls are considered plus size, but in my opinion they are very attractive and their body is sexy and proportioned although it's "on the heavier side of the average"
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Sometimes, what some magazines call plus size is ridiculous , for example this model is Normal in my opinion, no fat rolls or anything, yet she's a "plus Model " in an Australian magazine.
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2) Know what about the really severely obese people, should we accept them? Yes obviously, of course, shaming them will never solve the problem, if anything it will cluster them and make them hate themselves even more. It will worsen their case instead of helping them. Most of the times people eat their feelings out, it can be hard to control in some situations, shaming them will only make things worse for them.
Solution? We should promote a healthy lifestyle without marginalizing them! We shouldn't make them hate themselves and instead love themselves and it's because they love themselves and because they should love their body that they have to make a change.
Yes, we should make more clothes for obese people by giving them more choices and make them feel more beautiful, we should stop shaming them and bullying them, it's actually the first step to fight obesity in my opinion.
We have been doing that for years and fatties have just gotten fatter. Forget the carrot its time for the stick. In the fifties we would shame the fat and it encouraged them to lose weight. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. This is how you help fat folks to put down the fork by taking away the food.
Considering our leading killers are all due to diet and lifestyle, I think eating unhealthily and not exercising is a huge problem. I'm all for self-love, but one thing that I learned in my own weight loss journey (I used to be 195 pounds) is that truly loving yourself is not only about your mindset, it's about how you actively treat your body. Feeding your body poison with shitty food, not giving your body the exercise that it needs to thrive, and harming yourself with cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, etc. is not loving yourself. It's essentially self-harm since you're shortening your life, your raising your risk of developing chronic disease, and sabotaging your own health. I don't think this is entirely about weight, it's about how we treat ourselves. I have an extremely healthy friend who is just naturally thick and that's okay. I have another friend who is skinny, but doesn't work out or eat healthy, and I don't think that's okay.
Genetics do play a part, but it's not an excuse and if anyone thinks so, they should familiarize themselves with epigenetics. Lifestyle and environmental factors can literally turn on and off certain genes. You can have a predisposition to obesity, cancer, etc., but your diet and lifestyle plays a much bigger role in whether or not these genes become triggered. I feel like the only valid excuse for poor health is one's financial situation and/or location. Healthy food isn't available to everyone and that's a problem.
Anyways, I think we should all be kind to each other and never discriminate against others for their weight, but we should definitely be encouraging true self-love by treating your body right with proper nutrition and physical activity.
Well said.
Fat Acceptance isn't about encouraging people they should large size their fries at McDonalds. It's about allowing people to love and respect themselves because society as a whole is not nice to fat people. In fact, Fat people are discriminated against in society. Doctors will misdiagnose someone because they are fat. Ie. someone with cancer being misdiagnosed because the doctor said they weren't feeling well because they were fat. We are hearing more and more about these sorts of things.
It's more about mental health than it is about physical health in my opinion. If you are mentally well, you will be more likely to want to eat healthy and want to take care of yourself.
Bullying people to lose weight only creates more problems, some people turn to yo-yo dieting or just plain starving themselves which is never going to help the problem.
Someone who loves themselves is going to be more likely to want to take time out of their day to do things that help them and their health. That could mean exercise, eating right, or even taking time to see a doctor.
I think a lot of people miss the whole point of the Fat Acceptance movement.
I feel like the focus should be more on the overall health of the person and not their outward appearance. Someone who is overweight, may still be overweight but may have just lost 50lbs. You don't know someone's health just by looking at them. There are plenty of unhealthy skinny people or even unhealthy average people out there too.
We should just learn to be nicer to everyone overall and not worry too much about outward appearances.
yeah being curvy/ having a heavy body is one thing, but being overweight is another because it's unhealthy. some people are stubborn and lazy so they probably are beyond help, but especially with youth it's important to have them on the right track of healthy eating, and exercise.
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neither of the two.
it's their choice, I'm only looking out for myself. If someone asks me for help, then I'll consider it. but im not going to go out of my way to change the lifestyles of other people when they didn't ask for it, even if it looks like they're suffering. it's not my problem until they make the decision to involve me.
As long as there is such a thing as government sponsored or subsidized health care, people should be strongly encouraged to work go be the healthiest they can be. Otherwise they become a literal drain on society. That being said, encouragement should never come in a form that deliberately makes you feel ashamed of being fat, or in the form of legitimate bullying. Also, the idea of actually encouraging people to accept being overweight and out of shape and not even make an attempt to get healthier or fitter (AKA "fat acceptance") needs to stop. It does no good, only harm.
People should always be strongly encouraged to strive to become the best versions of themselves that they can be and to never settle for mediocrity or worse, being sub-par. People should never be taught to be proud of the fact that they settled for something significantly less than what they could have been. This applies to all areas of life, not just fitness. It just applies even more to health and wellness than other areas because of how your choice to settle for less can make you a burden on the people you love and society as a whole.
Nobody is accepting obesity! For real, we are trying to combat it because obviously it is unhealthy. Schools are serving healthier foods and fat people are getting made fun of.
Sure the media is showing more plus sized people, but it is due to the fact that fat people need clothes too! What do you want? Them to walk around naked until they lose weight? No! They need representation as well go get a sense of what the clothes would look like on them, right?
But the thing is... Fat people are people too. They have thoughts and feelings just like you. They don't need the fact that they are "gross" and unhealthy thrown in their face day after day. They shouldn't be forced to lose weight, but encouragement is always welcome.
When I was fat and made fun of every day, I literally wanted to kill myself rather than persist and try to lose the weight. Perhaps a little kindness would've helped more, and it did. My personal intuitive helped more than anything, along with encouragement from people who cared.
That's just my two cents though.
I was the same when I was fat and thanks to the constant name calling and ridicule especially my high school gym teacher I shed the weight. If not for that I would have just carried on being fat thinking it was normal and acceptable.
Oh boy, I have a feeling that this is going to anger a lot of people. I agree though, I'm not going to "accept" that you're probably eating yourself into an early grave. This is coming from someone who could gain from losing a good bit of weight. This is not something to "accept" and just forget about, people need to worry about their health. It's not about looks, it's about what you're doing to yourself. Instead of putting forth the effort to better your life, you expect everyone to accept you as you slowly kill yourself. There are plenty of people who have an actual condition that makes them like that, but there are also people who just don't want to stop eating.
Unfortunately it might be a case of forgetting the adult population as its too late and most are set in their ways. Instead we should focus on kids. No parent should allow tgeir child to be overweight let alone obese.
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I dont dont really care if they lose weight or not, Im just tired of them trying to portray that as attractive. You dont get to decide whether or not you're attractive, other people do. Same with being funny, you can't go around saying you're hilarious if nobody ever laughs at your jokes.
Lol, this does seem pretty accurate...
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There are extremes of everything. I do believe they should be accepted and allowed to live their lives, without being discriminated, or bullied. I also believe that people shouldn't lie and pretend that fat is beautiful. Although, yes in some cases I do believe that social services should remove kids from parents who allow them to become obese. That is already a form of animal cruelty in some places. Children deserve at least the same protection an animal can get.
Do you believe an obese person should be made to buy two seats in an airplane, bus, train, cinema etc?
Only if they actually take up more than one seat, as that would prevent the company from selling the other ticket.
Have you ever been crammed into a window seat beside a sweaty fatty on a four hour flight. Its a nightmare.
It isn't a nightmare. It bothers you more than it should.
Some sweatty fat guys fat folds ontop of you dropping sweat and in your space.
I seriously doubt you have ever been on a plane, where a fat guy just poured down sweat on you.
I have h got out of my space after I accidentally elbowed him in the tibs a few times
If he was able to get out of your space, then you weren't in some nightmare situation crammed next to him for four hours, as he dripped sweat on you the whole time.
Binge eating and emotional eating are eating disorders please educate yourself. why would marginalize someone who is already being discriminated against. Mental illness is also a problem more than 70 percent of the population has it, anxiety, depression should we all be tested for it so we then can get discriminated against to try to force ourselves to get over it? mental illness also cause a host of health issues like cancer , heart disease, weight gain, high blood pressure... etc just because mental illness isn't as visual as being fat doesn't make them anymore different. stop being an idiot, yes we need to help over weight people get the proper help a psychiatrist and a economy that allows people to be able to eat healthy.
Our over prescription of mind altering prescription drugs for depression is what is causing an epidemic in mental illness. Its time to return to the methods of the past to motivate fat people, fat folks find themselves marginalised by their own hand not normal society all fat acceptance does is to encourage the already fat to get fatter because its acceptable to be obese.
You sound literally dumb, you ignore fact and think with tour feelings lol
No obese people in the past thats a fact.
Anti depressants make the clinically depressed more depressed and addicted to prescription medication destroying their mental capacity and their internal organs.
Right , so should you marginalize them? You should make them feel included as a society we tend to make them seem non human. make them feel included and get them the mental help they need just like so many have mental illness don't know it and need help
Its not medical help they need its a strict diet and a treadmill.
See, your choosing to be ignorant.
Hey I was obese growing up thank god people set me straight and didn't kill me with kindness my stuffing donuts in my mouth no the pointed out that I was a "lard ass" and that I should do something about it. God bless my gym teacher.
Yea, you may be smaller but it's evident that you still have underlying mental issues. you maybe physically healthy on the outside you maybe not on the inside but your definitely not mentally healthy.
No im fine but I care about helping people but real help not a condescending speech about how we are all unique and individual snowflakes are a story about how a fat ugly duckling turned into a swan. I tell people like it is, yes your fat how are you going to deal with it? Stuff your face or hit the gym.
Yea, you still aren't acknowledging fact vs your feelings. stop being illogical.
Feelings aren't going to help you lose weight, you might feel better about yourself but your still fat. Im glad people motivated me to lose weight other wise id still be a fatty.
isn't my motivation feelings? and I need you to stop trolling.
Hey fat acceptance just tells people its ok to be fat.
It's called body acceptance. And it tell people to love the body they where born in and the body they have now. and if they want to gain or loose weight to feel better that is up to them, Its about telling people specifically women you don't need plastic surgery to be beautiful , being a large percentage American women have had something done and many men. I don't understand why you don't understand it. But whatever your choosing to stay narrow minded
My experience of American women us that so many are grossly obese and should not love their bodies and are risking their health. When they are going to have their legs amputated because of self inflicted diabetes should I be opened minded and tell them to love their fat bodies? Would you tell an alcoholic thry should drink as much as they want?
Stop , just stop you are choosing what to understand and what you don't. and if you where actually overweight, you may have lost the weight but you haven't lost the mental illness, you are not a healthy person. So work on yourself before you judge
And yet I have a positive mental attitude and im successful in life. I dont sugar coat things as its not helpful to people sometimes you've got to be cruel to be kind rather than what your proposing with fatties killing with kindness and donuts.
Ps I was fat thank god some people set me straight.
O. k. talk to a psychiatrist , just cause your successful doesn't mean your mentally healthy. Alright I'd be lying if I said it's been nice talking to you, so bye
Ok bye. I dont take mind altering psychotropic anti depressants that screw up my brain chemistry like others so I will be ok.
First thing a psychiatrist does is hand out anyi depressants to weak minded people who then pay him for drugs and an extortionate amount for his time. Some doctors and psychiatrists are more like drug dealers than anything else.
Proper nutrition and exercise should be taught in schools and be encouraged, with the first step being that school cafeterias not sell food that is unhealthy.
I don't think we should be criticizing or excluding overweight and obese people from society. I think that if they feel accepted, they will be more confident, and subsequently more prone to want to improve themselves. Body weight is being associated with physical and mental health, and as such it's a personal matter. When people are poor, it's cheaper to buy unhealthy food. When people have psychological problems, this can make them not care for themselves. So, we should see how we can help those people, finding them a job, giving them money or emotional support.
Your right about the schools but social services should also remove obese kids from their bad parents.
I disagree completely about the schools. That is how we got into this mess to begin with. The obesity epidemic didn't happen until the schools started to teach about the food pyramid, which by the way is the same method used to fatten livestock. We simply can not trust any government body, to protect the health of the students, over the massive food industry during this period in time. Remember this is the same government that declared pizza as a vegetable. I hate to sound like a conspiracy nut, but history has shown, we simply can't trust this to the schools.
@heavensgift2girls the problem is that it's not sufficient to just show to the kids the food pyramid and expect them to get it. It's important to give examples, or do workshops, to show how to implement it in everyday life. And of course there are much more to learn about nutrition.
The problem with the food pyramid is its from an era where we were told eggs, butter and whole milk were bad for us among others based on no actual scientific evidence.
They did give examples, and they did do workshops. That is why people got fatter. They taught people that simple carbs like bread and pasta, belong on the bottom of the pyramid. They have sugary fruits at pretty much same level of importance as leafy green vegetables. They even told people they have to eat dairy, even though the majority of the earths population is lactose intolerant. The government screwed everything up, trying to cater to different special interest groups instead of putting peoples health first.
@heavensgift2girls the pyramid is very basic actually. There are many more to learn, as you said.
The pyramid wasn't just basic, it wasn't right. For one thing a diet heavy in carbs, stimulates the appetite in a lot of people, promoting over eating. These people then look like they lack self control, just because their body reacts differently to the food than some other people.
There are also plenty of additives the government allows in food, that are designed to increase hunger. message is a famous example, and now they don't even have to list message. They can just hide it under the name spices, which could be just about anything. The government clearly doesn't want us to understand what we are eating.
It even legalized pink slime, without confirming how the company removes the ammonia from the food so that we know if it is actually safe or not. The food industry just has too much money and influence on the government at this point in time. The government might look out for us 9 out of 10 times, but we can't trust them 100% of the time. This is one time we can't count on them.
@heavensgift2girls I agree that additives in the food should be listed. Though, it's not good to eat processed food often anyway. Food pyramid says we should eat carbs everyday. Here a nutritionist would furthermore explain that: Carbs should consist around 1/4 of our meal, unless someone is an athlete. Non processed ones daily, processed ones only when you need an energy boost.
I voted D, because I had the exact same sentiments 2 years ago when I saw a pair of grossly obese toddlers at Golden Corral sitting with their fatass parents... they don't deserve to start life out that heavy just because their parents don't care to feed them right.
Here we go again...
Bottom line... always chose to be kind... Sprinkle that shit everywhere you go... It's free!!!
I know of which I speak. Shaming has never worked. My body, nor anyone else's, is your business unless said person wants it to be. So in absence of that, always just choose to be kind.
This fsir dust you sprinkle is a new thing shaming has a long history of working. Better to cruel to be kind than kind and cruel.
No, it's actually not better to be cruel. You are dead wrong on that, but whatever. Do tell me though, what would it cost you personal to just be a kind human?
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Better not to spare the rod than to kill with kindness.
I call BS. Let me ask you a question. Have you ever been obese in your life?
Yes my parents shoveled crap down my throat and told me I was fat because of their genetics. Thankfully others set me straight.
I don't believe you that you were obese because you would never take this approach of fat shaming had you been. Furthermore, I'd love to know why you keep posting this question. This isn't the the first time you've tried to start a shit storm with the whole fat shaming bit. Apparently you aren't getting the response you desire because you keep posting it. You have a great day.
The problem with your position here is that you see acceptance and change as mutually exclusive concepts.
"I accept you as you are, now let's help you change."
Is the only approach that actually works.
Forcing the obese into concentration style fat camps to force them to lose weight and prevent them from getting bigger would be better. They'd be resistant at first but when they slim diwn to regular people size they would be grateful.
Or, like actually worked with my wife...
I accepted her as a bbw when we married. In fact her size was one of the first things I knew about her. I knew it from her online profile.
We got matched, became a couple and married.
Years later, with her own internal motivation and with my complete support she embarked on a life changing program that resulted in the loss of 175 lbs. She is now the healthiest she has ever been in her life and looks younger than her age of 51.
Love works.
Support works.
Encouragement works.
Shaming does not work.
Shaming treats the value of the person inside as being wholly dependant on a single, difficult to manage, external factor.
This leaves a person feeling essentially worthless. People that feel worthless, rather than being motivated, adopt a fatalistic view of themselves and their physical health.
You want to change people by hating the fact they are fat.
You actually do successfully change people by loving them as they are.
No they wouldn't be grateful. You are basically suggesting putting them in prison until they get skinny. Many of them don't want to live the type of lifestyle just because you think they should want to live like you. There are far better options, such as to stop the government from subsidizing unhealthy foods such as corn that is used to created corn syrup, and compete against the sugar industry. You know the same corn syrup that is in all of the "healthy" low fat products they tricked people into buying so it would help them lose weight.
@heavensgift2girls we havd tried the carrot for years and it hasn't helped people just got fatter and fatter. Its time to go back to a time without this acceptance bull like in the 40's where people had never ate better or bern healthier. This fat acceptance business just isn't working.
I think some people confuse accepting people's flaws (e. g. "you're not a failure because you're overweight") which is good, with rewarding an unhealthy behaviour (e. g. "it's great that you're overweight and no one should mention it") which is bad.
People who are fat aren't evil or failures but being fat is not a good thing.
i think we should accept everyone but always encourage a healthier lifestyle
Its an immoral lifestyle choice
that's really only your opinion and not one shared by the majority of people
accept and educate. bullying hurts more people than it motivates.
The thin privilege comic, oh my god.😂😂😂
Its easier to accept and let them be tbh, we need to develop ourselves, not the world
Honestly don't care about how anyone looks-- if you're nice to me I'll be nice back, if you aren't I won't.
D and B, but encouragement is not the same as ridicule.
We should ration food and help them exercise.
we should help people to lose weight
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