Is fat acceptance ok?

Question

I usually try to stay out of controversial issues but I have a hard time with this one. Winter is the slow time of year for us and I tend to get comfortably lazy. With that comes all the goodies associated with the holidays and yes, I will be the first to admit it, my jeans don't fit quite as well as they used to. In fact, my sister, (Yes, the evil, middle one again) sometimes goes as far as to lovingly call me "Porkahontas".

Now, while I may have a little bit of extra cushion to sit on over the long, winter months I don't just sit there and say, "My fat ass is big and beautiful just the way it is!" while face fu**ing myself with more chocolate.
I look forward to spring when I know I will be more active and fit back in my jeans again. It's all good.

What I have a hard time with is fat girls on (and off) social media who have no intention of trying to lose weight or better themselves in any way and do say "My fat ass is big and beautiful just the way it is!" while face fu**ing themselves with more chocolate and all their followers are rooting them on with fat woke acceptance bullshit. Basically watching and promoting a slow suicide live online.

It is not ok to be a fat ass cow for many reasons. It is not ok for me to accept them or myself in that way. That's the same as telling an alcoholic it's ok to be drunk all the time. No, it isn't. Go get help. (And it is sugar addiction in both cases. 1 gets drunk. 1 gets fat)

And I am not talking about cases where there are legitimate medical conditions or losing weight in an attempt to look like a model just 'cuz society says u should. I mean being at a good HEALTHY weight for your own benefit. I can accept myself and others for having a fat ass WHEN I know I am doing something to better myself about it. But to just sit there doing nothing, no. And maybe stop ordering 5 Big Macs and a diet Coke there, Porkahontas.

So, what do you think? Is fat acceptance ok?

nolabels · Accepted Answer

Fat acceptance is BS, making excuses for behaviors that could be altered.
Don't these people know that they'd feel much better being at a healthy weight?
In my opinion, if individuals want to accept themselves as being unnecessarily fat, that's their business, but advertising it to others as a normal way of life is a disservice to the world.

I exclude those who struggle with weight due to actual medical reasons.

I'm going to go somewhat off topic now, because alcohol was mentioned in the body of the question.

I'm an alcoholic.
I drank beer very heavily as a teenager and young man.
I quit drinking completely for over 35 years.
Doing so didn't miraculously change my life, but it was nice to no longer have horrible hangovers.

I returned to controlled drinking several years ago soon after discovering that I liked to smoke cigars, sipping on a bit of bourbon to pair with the cigars.
It was enjoyable.
I did quite well with moderate drinking for 5 years or so.

A couple of years ago, greatly increased physical pain due to age, illness, and injuries, not treated by the medical community, led me to drinking more heavily as a means to control the pain.
Alcohol serves extremely well as a painkiller.
Unfortunately, my alcoholic tendencies led me to once again drinking extremely heavily, to a very dangerous degree.

I had to stop drinking or I'd likely be gone by now.
In fact, early last year, I was gone.
I twice went into cardiac arrest as a result of a widow maker heart attack.
Obviously, I was returned to life.
Another long horrific story all on its own.
That was a fun day.
NOT!

Thankfully, my pain has very recently begun to be treated by the medical community.
The side effects of the pain medication are almost as undesirable as is alcohol withdrawal, but much less dangerous.

I'd love to be able to sip on some bourbon in moderate amounts, both as a pain medication and for the enjoyment of it, but I found that I'm no longer able to moderate my drinking, so I've stopped.

Being on prescribed pain medication absolutely requires that I don't drink.

I shouldn't drink because of many other medical issues, anyway.

I'm in counseling to help me stay away from alcohol, and, for the first time, I have a few people in my life who offer me wonderful support in my efforts.
They tell me that they're helped as well by our conversations.
Win-win!
I thank God for them.

Please wish me luck in my endeavor to stay away from alcohol, if you would.

Back on topic, I used to pack on a few extra wintertime pounds, but come springtime, they'd be quickly worked back off by a bit of outdoor activity.

For various reasons, I seem to no longer pack on the winter pounds.

Thanks for the question, affording me the opportunity to share my story.
I find it to be therapeutic to write about it.

I love your analogy of face fu**king oneself with chocolate!
Some interesting images instantly flashed through my mind when I read that choice little phrase.

Enjoy your holiday goodies and dream of springtime and getting back into your jeans!

Levin · Accepted Answer

Porkahontas is actually quite funny.

Well, I must admit, I'm not very sympathetic. I'm pretty much extreme ectomorph and it is almost impossible for me to put on weight. The most I would get is a bloated belly from over-eating.

So while I do eat quite well, in terms of nutritional, high quality, often plant based whole foods, I definitely do binge at times and it doesn't affect my weight. Having said that obviously if I eat crap it does change my health.

And I agree with you. I was watching some deoderant or whatever it was advertisement and there was a girl who must have been about 18 stone (252 lbs). I get the notion of 'all shapes are beautiful', which I suppose is legitimate in a higher sense, but in terms of this material realm that we do occupy, obviously that is not right. This girl was obviously extremely unhealthy and the company should not be advertising that. Unfortunately this woke ideology is infective and if you approached the company they'd think you are a monster and would parot the sacred ideology.

A few things to add. I'm extremely active so I probably do at least 1 or 2 hours of exercise or specific activity a day. I strength train for 2 hours 4x a week. I walk for at least an hour a day. And on off days I do all my stetching, meditation, taichi etc. Health is very holistic and must encompass emotional factors.

The other thing is honestly I don't see winter as an excuse. Sure, it's the season to become a bit more comfortable and 'build up some reserves' as it were. But with home workouts, you can get a pretty brutal work out in 20 minutes and if you're striving for efficiency, it is all you need.

Apulu_backagain · Accepted Answer

Even I try to stay away from the argument, instead of accepting being obese we should try to discuss solutions for it in a healthy way like we do for cigarettes and alcohol.

I'm almost obese now, 75 kgs with 159 cm height. And I hate it. I can't accept how I just gained 20 kgs in less than 1.5 years. I'm trying to lose weight and I hate when few of my acquaintances are like accept the way you are and love yourself.

No tf I don't want to accept myself unhealthy and insecure. I want to move around freely and boldy without thinking about all that fat in my body jiggling. I hate it so much. I miss how I used to randomly run and jump and dance without a care but now I don't even bother moving much in public because I'm worried it'll look weird and it feels weird. It is nothing to glorify. As soon as high school gets over I'll have a lot of free time and I'll lock tf in to lose all that fat.

FreyaRed · Accepted Answer

Semaglutide is the solution. This makes their intestines less active and they eat automatically much less. Probably would save money even if this medications cost a little bit.
That's maybe harsh but my instinct feels disgust when I see like obese people put those fast food meals greedy in their mouth openings. However those people are so greedy to stimulate with massive food consumption their reward center in brain they aren't even capable for a millisecond to change their point of view and see themselves from outside to see the gluttons they are.

AliceGregory · Answer

No, fat acceptance is not Okay. But we shouldn't hold ourselves to the standard social media sets either. And this isn't because it's impossible to be in as good shape as the models we see on social media isn't attainable for most women (it is). It's because most of us don't have ribs that give us a perfect hourglass shape, the hip insertion for a perfect bubble butt or genetics that will deposit all of our fat in our boobs while leaving the rest of our body skin and bones. We should set a high standard but one that's attainable to most women.

exitseven · Answer

Weight is a funny thing. On the one hand we have a nation of porkers, not just girls but guys too. On the other hand we have scores of teenage girls sticking their fingers down their throats to make themselves puke.

RFK jr is looking at a holistic approach to obesity. Part of the problem is out food supply. Too much processed , high calorie meals. The other issue is Americans live an extremely sedentary life style. . Kids do not walk anywhere and they do not go outside and play like previous generations did.

It took a long time to get this way and it cannot be changed overnight but it is a big health issue in this country.

Many people get rejected from joining the military because they were too fat. it is embarrassing.

purplepoppy · Answer

If an alcoholic wants to be drunk all the time or an obese person wants to eat cake that's their right. I don't like to see people staggering around at 2pm or getting squashed in a plane seat but its not my job to save these people.

OneViewpoint · Answer

It's not appealing to me. Free choice and all that. People can do whatever they want. Be obese if you want. But I won't be hanging out with you or telling you you look great to soothe your insecurities about your self image. I try to surround myself with mentally and physically fit and healthy people. That is my free choice.

aaron13547 · Answer

To have food in abundance is a privilege I think we take for granted. I'm very glad we live in a world people can get fat. However I wish people were more aware how lucky we are. We are our own problems. And I believe problems take care of themselves. its terrible to say but all the health problems that come with obesity are proof we are not suppose to consume more then we need... Excessive pleasure always leads to suffering. I don't believe it's ok to fat.

DJB72 · Answer

It's dangerous to your health to carry too much weight. But don't go by BMI because it's bullshit. Rather get a professional to measure your muscle, water and fat content and calculate what your percentages are. Most people are supposed to be about 20-25% fat with the rest being bone, muscle and fluids.

Pro athletes get to about 9% fat. I read somewhere that by Rocky 4 Stallone was at 5% but to get there is seriously hard work.

genericname85 · Answer

no it's not ok. cause it's litterally "being ok with very slow suicide". cause that's exactly what being obese or becoming obese does to you. you're slowly killing yourself. cause you're engaging in behavior that will in terms of absolute objective truth shorten your life considerably.

llorando · Answer

In my personal opinion as someone's who's overweight, I do not agree with fat acceptance, being over weight is unhealthy and first step to losing weight is not accepting your fatness (at least for me it is). That said, while I don't support fat acceptance, I also don't support discrimination or hate towards people who are over weight, and yes, in my opinion this can be achieved without all the fat acceptance.

Sonorous · Answer

I have been fat before. Around 5 years ago I was ~190-200lbs (30-35% body-fat) & even then I knew that fat acceptance was bs lol. People who usually push fat acceptance are usually only doing so because they find it difficult to lose weight. Then of course you'll inevitably have some toxic positivity skinny people with the same mindset.

loveslongnails · Answer

Not sure what you mean by fat "acceptance". Do I want to say to a person " hey, it's great that you're obese, you are what you are" ? No, I just won't say anything.

ohsheeT · Answer

Sorry will have to come back to this Question. I've tried many times but for some reason can't get passed the face fucking myself with chocolate part . I'm sure I will agree with you what ever it may be.

Mmm chocolate

Cidknee · Answer

Live and let live i say. If you wa t to praise a person for being fat, ugly, and unhealthy fine. If you want to make fun of them that's fine to as long as they don't hear it. I don't go for bullying.

AviatorTom · Answer

Accepting someone who is grossly overweight encourages them to stay that way, which is unhealthy. Better to try to get them to eat healthy, exercise and lose some weight.

AngryCarl2 · Answer

If you're happy being fat then no one should be giving you hassle for it. That doesn't mean we should be promoting poor diet and a sedentary lifestyle or prescribing drugs that cause catastrophic weight gain. It doesn't mean we should be treating obesity as a lifestyle.

I used to be fat and I hated it. I'm now at the upper end of my ideal weight and it's okay.

Gwendoline · Answer

No its immoral. there's the greed of over eating, how it drives up healthcare prices and the high carbon footprint of being obese.

bunnyboo24 · Answer

No just like anorexic thin acceptance is also not okay

DeeDeeDeVour · Answer

This ridiculous "body positivity" movement is unacceptable.

RedInnocent69 · Answer

Extra padding in winter is a necessity. Especially if you’re an outdoor/rural girl. Having said that, this winter I’ve resolved to take up some new things. Next year will be the best yet

ChiTown33 · Answer

Within reason.

Everyone has their natural builds some people are thicker, some are thinner. But as long as a person isn't COMPLETELY sedentary (barring a health situation that prevents them) that's all that really matters.

fuddly · Answer

I agree with what you're saying Society is getting obese and it's hard to shift those pounds I've they go on And now everyone is taking weight loss drugs eg ozempic

seeyounexttuesday · Answer

Whenever I watch those shows like 600lb life... I'm like "WHO IS PAYING FOR ALL THIS FOOD?"

Xawyx-2 · Answer

Sure, I don't support discrimination, but it's not healthy.

Paige90 · Answer

I don't like fat

CherryLove007 · Answer

Between them and their doctor.

Nikki1989 · Answer

Of course.

BlondeGoneWild · Answer

No it's glorifying mental and physical illness

beefcakebradybatson · Answer

Ol' boy isn't into fat a** broads !!!

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