Like for example people born naturally with good looking faces, slim body in their youth, naturally have abs. They could totally look like this if they even spent a minimum amount working out and ate healthy:
What they do instead in highschool and college and beyond. They drink like sailors, smoke, eat junk food, don't work out, do drugs and this totally trashes not only their body but you can definitely see a wear and tear on the face.
So these people are run through by the time they are 25. Even those who get the apifiny to work out and start eating healthy can't escape the side effect results on their face, and body. Not to mention they increase their risk now of hypertension, diabetes and so forth. This predisposes their kid.
Why the fuck do people shit all over their genetics?
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I find it's always the below average/average girls who take fitness serious to get nice body; see butterfaces. They then look waaaayyy better than the hot girl who had nice faces, and natural slim bodies but spent their time partying, doing drugs, and going out every night in their late 20's.
Lol for one why the fuck do you care? its none of you business. And don't give me some Nicole Arbor bullshit stating that you are concerned about their health. You're just concerned that there is not enough supply of bangable pussy for you to choose from because we all know thats all you care about not because you actually care about them as people. Fake ass fuck. I have never met a fat person that gained weight on purpose. Like MOST fat people don't go "let me gain weight so that society can ostracize me and treat me like a fucking subhuman. Also let me eat all this shit so that I will actively destroy my body and kill myself faster. Yeah sounds like a plan!" Motherfucker no. Most of the time people gain weight when they are depressed or mentally ill or using SSRIs and wrongfully turn to food for support. But thats what happens when you're not mentally healthy. Shit happens. SSRIs and antidepressants will make you a shit ton of weight. Also they were probably never taught good eating habits and they don't know where to start. They might have a thyroid/hormone problems like Oprah or High FSH like Khloe Kardashian. They could have a tumor. They could just be inactive. It also could be that they truly simply eat a lot for no reason other than pure gluttony but thats actually not most people. Most people get fat when they get depressed. Like Prison Break actor Wentworth Miller: www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...ng-meme-resurfaces.html It could be a lot of reasons. People are ridiculous with body weight they over exaggerate. Is it good to be fit? YES! Should you kill yourself trying if you are only slightly overweight simply to get people to like you? Fuck no. Its ideal to just to it for yourself because YOU want to. Not to impress some incompetent, useless dickhead who doesn't give a shit about you either way. And stop reading Return of the Kings. lol. I swear this is what you people look like when you see "fat" people. So fucking ridiculous.
Why do i care? Because people who are fat end up getting chronic disease like diabetes, hypertension, obesity. All of which puts an increase strain on the countries medical cost which results in an increase in taxes on the citizens. Do you know america one of the fattest countries in the world has a medical cost nearly equal to the rest of the world?
Why do i care? Because I don't want to see kids being genetically predispose to condition because their parents were just too much of a dumbass to look after their health.
"American healthcare costs are rising so rapidly that they could reach $4.2 trillion annually, roughly 20% of our gross domestic product, within ten years. We spend $300 billion a year on pharmaceutical drugs––almost as much as the rest of the world combined. We pay more, yet our health outcomes are worse. About 65% of Americans are overweight and almost 75% of healthcare costs are spent on preventable diseases that are the major causes of disability and death in our society."
A lot of stuff like this could be reduce if people weren't so fucking lazy.
LMAO like you give a shit about the average citizen! You're so full of shit. Are you now these peoples' parents? Are you their doctors? Are you their therapists and psychologists? No. So shut the fuck up. You couldn't possibly care. If you are being an honest person you will admit that the ONLY reason you would would get your little panties in a bunch over the sight of a FEMALE "fat" person is because you didn't find them bangable enough for you so thats one less person to have sex with. That must suck since you only have so many options anyways. Lol. Because if they were fit you wouldn't be making posts on the internet bitching about it. If you don't want to be with a fat person then DONT but don't act like you want fat people to lose weight because you care about total strangers at all. Thats very disingenuous, even for you.
What a dumbass just because a naturally skinny person gains weight doesn't mean that if you mate with them their children will be fat too. The children will inherit the DEFAULT genetics. Just like how a women who gets plastic surgery and has children her children DONT INHERIT her plastic surgery.
And from your response and angry rant I can honestly guess your an obese girl who just upset that someone is challenging you to work out and not sit the sofa. Looks like i hit a nerve.
And you keep bringing this back to pussy. Sorry hun but women aren't always the center of a man's universe.
And since you keep bringing up yes men like slim women. We don't like fat chicks (most of us). Similar to how women don't like introverted guys. It seems todays women are entitled little princesses who think men should throw away their standards and take whatever they can get. While women should still hold onto their standards of money earning, height, face and so forth.
"What a dumbass just because a naturally skinny person gains weight doesn't mean that if you mate with them their children will be fat too. "
Looks like someone can't fucking read. I said they predispose their kids to disease. A kid whose parents are fat is more likely to become fat due to the enviroment and food their parents will serve them. A parent who eats like shit isn't going to put their kid on a completely different meal plan. The kid will be expose to the same shit and not know better. Things like diabetes, hypertension, chronic obstructive lung disease all have a predisposing genetic factor. i. e. if it runs in your family you have an increase risk of getting it.
The children will inherit the DEFAULT genetics. Just like how a women who gets plastic surgery and has children her children DONT INHERIT her plastic surgery.
While I do agree that children end up copying their parents eating styles obesity achieved by a naturally skinny person with skinny or athletic genes WILL NOT create other fat fucking children even if they themselves are fat. The only way their children will get fat is if they're feeding them a ton of unhealthy food. The only time you can inherit fat genes is when you get with a NATURALLY fat/large/thick person. www.ghanascoop.com/.../...3.jpg&size=article_large Diabetes is not inherently fat gene there are PLENTY of skinny people born with diabetes that have high blood pressure, heart disease and high cholesterol. There are vegans that can have high cholesterol. Again you are not forced to be with a large person but don't act like you care just admit that you're simply shallow and have super specific beauty standards. People can see through that bullshit.
You--> I agree that children end up copying their parents eating style
You---> I do not agree that a natural skinny/athletic person who ends up getting obese will not create other fat person.
Me Que.
My point was this. Natural skinny/athletic people who were naturally nice bodies due to their metabolism, lifestyle, and perhaps eating habits. They go to college/highschool and beyond get lazy. Stop training. Start eating like shit, going out to parties. They are now fat.
They have kids later on. The kids The kids may develop slow metabolism and end up getting fat or they may have fast. In any case it's nature vs nurture. If the parents serve the kid shitty food and they are uneducate on how to eat healthy they will become fat and the cycle repeats. This can staved off for a while if they play sports/work out.
Diabetes is not a fat gene but it is acquired (type 2 not the autoimmune BS) from eating excess amount of glucose.
Sugary foods make u fat. It also predisposes you to developing diabetes.
"PLENTY of skinny people born with diabetes that have high blood pressure, heart disease and high cholesterol."
All of which if we trace back in most cases is due to family predisposition because their parents are obese. (I'M SURE YOUR GOING TO SAY NO)
"Again you are not forced to be with a large person but don't act like you care just admit that you're simply shallow and have super specific beauty standards. "
And women entitlement mentality and thinking the world revolves around their pussy comes up again. Sorry but some of us men actually have a backbone and not one of the pathetic white knights constantly praising you girls on social media of how pretty you are. We actually care about the stability and welfare of society.
You misread what that was trying to imply. If a person that is skinny all their life gets fat because they I don't know get depressed and overeat like actor Wentworth Miller even if they have children while they are fat the babies will grow up to be skinny if the parent gives the children the right foods because they inherit the default genes. They don't inherit the fat the parent gained. Thats why I used the plastic surgery example. Its the same thing in most cases. However, even though the baby has skinny genes if the fat parent continues to eat unhealthy they will teach the child to do the same by example and the child will get fat not because of their genes but because of the environment. Nature vs Nurture. Also if your concern is diabetes realize that skinny people can also get diabetes and being skinny with diabetes is actually WORSE than being fat with diabetes healthland.time.com/.../
I think most people even super fat people prefer to be fit and healthy. Personally there is nothing wrong with being genuinely concerned for the person because they are unhealthy and because you care about them and love them. Anybody with common sense will have a hard time believing though that a person that is not family or has medical qualitifacations telling a person to lose weight is because they care if they are a A) a complete stranger and B) especially a man telling this to a woman. Its only a problem when people tell other people to lose weight for aesthetic reasons, that they should lose weight because your precious fucking eyes can't stand the sight of an overweight person. Pleasing a strangers aesthetics is not a valid reason to lose weight, health is. So you feeling entitled enough to tell a complete stranger you couldn't possibly care about to lose weight so they can fit your aesthetic is incredibly fucked up.
"You misread what that was trying to imply. If a person that is skinny all their life gets fat because they I don't know get depressed and overeat like actor Wentworth Miller even if they have children while they are fat the babies will grow up to be skinny"
The child may or may not grow up to be skinny. For one the other parent is a factor. What sets a fat kid and a skinny kid at an early age is your metabolism. Those who are born with slow are more likely to become fat kids than those with fast. People who suffer depression are also likely to predispose their kids to depression. Fun fact: depression is genetically related.
So chances are if you suffer from depression your kid has an increase risk of becoming depress later in life---> Lead to binge eating as a possibility---->Getting fat
"if the parent gives the children the right foods because they inherit the default genes. They don't inherit the fat the parent gained. Thats why I used the plastic surgery example. Its the same thing in most cases."
I agree with this. I'm never said that kids inherit fat genes from their parents. I. E. If your parents got fat you would naturally be fat. I made a point multiple times if you look back that the eating behavior of parent is what predisposes the kid to becoming fat.
Again i said this before in my previous comment over and over. I never said anything about kid becoming fat due inhering fat genes from the parents. I said increase risk of getting chronic conditions.
Yeah I suppose that is true but things aren't always so black and white. Like you could come from a perfect fit, healthy family that is happy and gets along and is well off in life but later in life they get bullied, raped and lose all their hair. That would definitely depress anyone. Or maybe somebody gets depressed observing the fact that life is inherently fucked up. Or by considering that if there is a God he's probably really evil and we're all fucked anyways.
So depression depends on circumstances and events that happen in a persons life as well as states of mind and though forms. The point is to not treat fat like its some type of STD. Its not ideal to health but you can always lose it. It can be fixed. Its not like you were born without a leg. And many people gains weight at one point its really not that big a deal. As long as you're not allowing that to determine the value you have as a human being. We're all going to get old and die and rot anyways. There is no point in giving yourself a brain aneurysm over trivial shit. Especially when it can be fixed
"So depression depends on circumstances and events that happen in a persons life as well as states of mind and though forms."
Depression also is genetically linked.
"The point is to not treat fat like its some type of STD. Its not ideal to health but you can always lose it."
The funny thing about your analogy is that most STD can be cured (i. e. lose it). Also as you get older fat becomes harder to get off. You know how many old people who didn't take care of their bodies are gym rats everyday hitting the gym trying to take off the excess fat from their you.
The point is. You should put yourself into going an early grave when you can avoid it by just having self control and eating properly. All these chronic conditions people develop and have to go countless doctor's appointments for could be avoided if they just took better care of themselves.
"As long as you're not allowing that to determine the value you have as a human being. We're all going to get old and die and rot anyways. There is no point in giving yourself a brain aneurysm over trivial shit. Especially when it can be fixed"
Quality of life is important. Would you rather die an early grave, or late in life in a hospital bed. Or live a fulfilling life where you won't debilitated.
Yeah physical health is important but mental health is MORE important. So if you are fat because you are overreacting because you're depressed you have to address the depression first because that is the cause. Once the depression is gone the reasons to overeat are gone as well. If you are fat because are taking Celexa, Paxil, etc because of depression than consider stopping those pills if possible and exercising. Celexa is commonly known to make people gain 80+ pounds. If you are overeating because you are a glutton you have an eating disorder just like how anorexia is an eating disorder and also need to see a mental health professional. Overeating is no different than anorexia.
*Adding: and an eating disorder is a mental health problem. People get fat MOSTLY due to mental health issues. its not cool to make fun of fat people for the same reason its not ok to make of heroin addicts.
"Yeah physical health is important but mental health is MORE important."
Wrong. In medicine a wholistic approach to patient is treating both equally. Often physical health can play a role in mental health like depression (e. g. body dysmorphia, bulimics). Mental health can have an effect on physical health like anxiety can play a role in high blood pressure.
No YOU are wrong. Sure both matter but you can be the physically healthiest person in the world and if you're not mentally stable your physical health will go to shit ANYWAYS. If you are mentally stable but not physically healthy you can still act as a functional member of society unless you are severely disabled. Given you're not a complete vegetable physically or have cancer you can get you get your health back. Also both anorexia and obesity are caused by mental illnesses. The mind controls the body not the other way around. Fucking obviously.
Asker, I don't understand. You say your only concern is their health. But if that were true, wouldn't the question be "why do people let their bodies go?" rather than "why do naturally attractive people let their bodies go?"
"Butter faces" can pass down genetic diseases just as well as attractive people can. So can you explain this?
Lol I only used the term "butter face" to quote the Asker, just to be clear on that! 😉 But yeah, he claims to be worried for passing down health conditions as a result of weight, such as diabetes or hypertension. But he seems only concerned with attractive people doing that, rather than everybody. That's what I was calling him on.
Some of the questions here push me to wonder where do these people live to get such a skewed interpretation of reality? Are they basically uneducated or do they have an opinion that they must voice even though it's incorrect. Your question fits that category. If that were true then the most attractive women would not all be over 25 but they are. Those are the ones who get movie star status while the younger girls have to wait their turn. I know of no educated woman who allows their body to go to hell. The less educated and the more females with emotional problems the more they eat and sit around doing nothing. Most people overeat out of emotional reasons not genetics. You are so totally off base that to go any further would require me to write a book.
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Sorry but I've seen your behavior in other questions/mytake and you definitely come off a misandrist so I'm not really going to take your opinion as serious.
Considering the fact that you use the expression, "shit on their genetics" and therefore sound like exactly what I described, an uneducated person, I must take your putdown with a grain of salt. I tell the truth you probably don't like hearing it.
So because of my choice of word you think you know my education background. Sounds like a snob. You seem to be a girl who tends tries to use big word as often as possible so people know how smart you are. Guess it's just another thing i can tick off of disliking. I don't like elitist assholes. So again your comments mean even less to me.
Now this is a great question!!! It's very complex, there's many reasons. I think they probably don't realize how lucky they are to have those genetics and because of that they don't care and do whatever pleases them. I used to be skinny and not sexy skinny either I was scronie, thankfully about a year ago I fell in love with fitness and I have completely changed my lifestyle and body.
I'm curious as to why this bothers you? I agree fat is a choice (and not a good one), but you centre your point around genetics, which doesn't affect you unless you somehow intended to have children these people?
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Because it kind of baffles me how someone can just throw away something that was handed to them.
It's like a guy/girl who were born attractive because their parents were attractive (nice face, good bodies). They literally have an advantage in life because attractive people are more likely to advance faster in their career and get hired, they are also more likely to have others percieve their work as better than someone less attractive. So in short you win the genetic lottery and are basically set up.
You squander it all away putting your body threw drugs, excessive alcohol, drinking, and eating like shit. Now your face is not so good, your body is wrecked and you've acquired several conditions that could of been avoided.
My original question was why would people who have a golden ticket just throw it all away?
Dude... nobody can 'naturally have abs'. Nor can they look like the girl in your top photo without sticking to a pretty intense regimen of squats on a regular basis, on top of many other things.
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Yes people can naturally have abs.
This is Ulsies Jr son. The kid hasn't even hit the gym and has the ab potential. They are guys and girls who never worked out in their life and have the ab definition already in place. s18.postimg.org/.../..._2015_12_08_at_08_31_00.png
Again wrong. I actually no a girl whose 1/2 italian and 1/2 black who doesn't work out, eats like shit and she has the body above. Genetics are hella thing.
Tldr I agree that most people who are unattractive could actually be good looking if they tried to take care of themselves, however you don't know their life story or why they live life the way they do. Sure many simply do not care but theirs probably plenty of people who are trying to cope with difficult situations.
Do you really care about them? Or your just preaching or trying to shame them? Their fatness dont make u sick.
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It's a combination of disgust of not utilizing what was handed to you. It's a kid born into a rich family who just takes money for granted and spend spends spends. While you were born in middle class and have to go to work everyday to gain wealth.
I also care because when fat people are abundant it puts a strain on everyone through taxes and having more kids being born with health problems is not a good thing for our society.
*Analogy: It's like kid born into a rich family who just takes money for granted and spend spends spends until their family wealth go under and they have not a single clue on how to make money. While you were born in middle class and have to go to work everyday to gain wealth.
I don't believe you. You just love trying to tell what others to do when in reality, their problems weren't yours to solve. I'd betcha you 'll wimp out when you have to face a fat person one day and tell them this is what they should do to be slim like you. They will whip you with one punch since they have more strength than you.
I think a major problem is because schools dont teach kids or anybody about nutritional value or exercise science. Nutrition should be number 1, before math, before everything.
The only betrayal is that she married a fraud that clearly only loved her because of the way she looked not because he gives two shits about who she is as a person or that he even views her as a human being with emotions at all.
@dominiquois Women are more likely to leave a man's ass if he loses his job or become disabled. So again please don't act like women will stick around for you and they love you unconditionally.
@dominiquois He's still with her because he loves her, which is the most common result, it's still a huge betrayal though! She was most likely only keeping a healthy weight to lure in a good man then soon as she had her hooks in him she just lets her self go... yuk!
Yeah but then again she could just lose the weight. Lol, I don't see how anyone would gain weight specifically to piss someone off thats so retarded. Besides, a hot body is only going to matter for a few years. People get old and get shriveled and then die and rot. People act like sex is the be all of all existence. No it isn't. There are tons of gorgeous celebrities that get fat or old. It can happen to anyone. You could lose all your limbs tomorrow in a freak accident. What matters is how you treat other people who are forced on this earth just like you. Existence itself is already strange and painful enough for everyone. Nobody needs other people to be making their lives worse than it already is by being a dick.
Here is a model who talks about how stupid it is to care only about your looks. She's not just any model. She's modeled for Victorias Secret and only the most beautiful of models get to have the honor to work with them so she knows a thing or two about beauty. and hot bodies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM4Xe6Dlp0Y
@dominiquois Just lol. She's an attractive woman she lives in a fucking bubble world where people kiss her ass and give her special treatment that she is not aware of. I've come across an older woman's confession of how she was completely baffled that her perception of the world was wrong when she lost her beauty.
That video you posted is like Bill Gates coming up on TED talk and speaking about how money isn't important. Of course it isn't important to you, you are fucking rich.
@dominiquois No one is asking her to be a model, in her before picture she is even on the pudgy side but still attractive and it's not like the second pic is 20 or 30 years later after life has happened it's like maybe a few years later, she gained a lot of weight to!
She didn't get wrinkly from age, she didn't lose a limb in an accident, she CHOSE to be a pig.
"She didn't get wrinkly from age, she didn't lose a limb in an accident, she CHOSE to be a pig."
Who the fuck are you to judge them? There is a difference between a person saying I'm going to ruin my body on purpose for the only reasons to get men to hate me Like wtf? NOBODY does that unless they're like some psycho femiNAZI. and a person gaining weight because they're mental and emotional illness and use food to comfort their pain. When people have emotional problems like that they THEY ARE NOT RATIONAL and look to things that are not always healthy to do so but things that taste good and often than not that is not carrots and salad.
The only, ONLY reason men insult fat women thinking that bullying people is going to make them lose weight (it never does) is not only a fucking idiot ape but a selfish twat. He only cares that she lose weight so he can find her bangable NOT because he actually fucking cares about her. Period. End of story
@dominiquois What are you even talking about with this comment? it just seems totally random and off topic."There is a difference between a person saying I'm going to ruin my body on purpose for the only reasons to get men to hate me"
again what is with the randomness of this, it has almost nothing to do with what I'm talking about. "The only, ONLY reason men insult fat women thinking that bullying people is going to make them lose weight (it never does) is not only a fucking idiot ape but a selfish twat. He only cares that she lose weight so he can find her bangable NOT because he actually fucking cares about her. Period. End of story"
It looks like your trying to build a straw man here... I'm not making any of the claims you seem to think I am. Also just because weight gain can be an emotional problem does not mean it is and emotional problem.
Well most of the time people that gain weight due to overeating do it for emotional problems. If they are not doing it for emotional reasons overeating is still considered an eating disorder exactly like anorexia and it is a mental illness.
@dominiquois Ok I get what your saying better now.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to not want to be with someone who is mentally ill, that wasn't my initial reaction though but you have changed my mind, initially I thought it was a betrayal but still something that could be worked through. I don't think mental illness is something worth sticking out though, it's life ruining and people almost never recover.
Yeah I think its better to say I can't be with you because your mental illness is draining to me and I have no idea how to help you than say I don't want to be with you because you've betrayed me with your aesthetics. The latter makes the guy sound like a narcissistic dick.
@dominiquois It's not about sounding better it's about making the right choice, there is nothing wrong with not wanting or being able to cope with someone else's mental illness. I grew up with a mother who was mentally Ill and I speak from lots of personal experience when I say it is NOT worth wasting your life on that shit! It's her problem and there is nothing you can do about it, she needs to get help and after she does then she will be ready for a relationship.
If it was a matter of her just being lazy, letting her self go then you can do something about it. You can make healthy meals together, you can find fun ways to be active together and help each other keep on track. It can be a good bonding experience, if both partners want to work on their relationship.
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