What are your biggest concerns about the vaccine? (Page 2)

[COMMODOREII]

It causes more harm than good.

[Bee-Hatch]

Don't have concerns about it.

[SushiFushi]

It’s been long enough to find out about the long term side effects...

[SushiFushi]

I meant to say IT HAS NOTTTT BEEN LONG ENOUGH!!

[Goodwifie]

That I can't get it fast enough.

[pigoat]

Some allergic reactions

[IveGotNoName]

I have no concerns about the vaccine.

[Desconhecida]

They say it makes women infertile

[CasaNorba]

being tracked and monitored

[Inexpensivefurniture]

Your phone literally has a GPS in it and is constantly listening to what you say. Facebook, Twitter, even google amnd YouTube monitors what you look at so they can personalize adds for you. You were given a social security number. I promise you they don't need some vaccine to track and monitor you.

[Vencam]

Bruh... We can't track people outside of... Maybe not even one building... By just injecting a fluid in them 😂
Maybe in a couple more decades, when nanomachines work a tad better?

[KerubysiO]

How? Oh no Bill Gates and his vaccines!1!1! Please stop believing in flying pigs

[CasaNorba]

@Inexpensivefurniture you're the 100th moron that I heard this from.

in case you lack common sense you can turn off or crush your phone if you feel paranoid enough and you can cancel all your social media accounts and seize its activities

however let me know how you will be able to defeat a tracker that's inside of you and can monitor your health and everything you put inside your body. as a bonus it can also monitor your brain activity as well which sounds like mind reading to me

[CasaNorba]

@Vencam how do you know the vaccines only contain fluid? did you know that at the moment you can microchip your dog just in case he/she gets lost?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo-Ft84bf84

[CasaNorba]

@KerubysiO your profile says you're from Italy, speaking of Bill Gates didn't your government try to place an arrest order this man for his conspiracy act?

[Inexpensivefurniture]

@CasaNorba bro I think your tinfoil hat is a little too tight if you honestly think there are nano trackers in a vaccine

[CasaNorba]

@Inexpensivefurniture or maybe your brain is severely deprive of oxygen from wearing mask and quarantining like the Big Brother news tells you to

did you know that you can microchip a dog in the very exact way? and guess how they INSERT that microchip inside the dog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo-Ft84bf84

[Vencam]

You really can't fit much into a sirynge.
A short range tracking device? Sure, you can fit one.
Anything more powerful? Certainly not without wasting a substantial amount of money over each and every nanotracker. Kind of a waste for a device that could at most track your position and pulse, considering how phones already do that, in my opinion

[Vencam]

Also keep in mind that chips for dogs have the convenient aspect of not caring about secrecy and whether or not they show up in x-rays or other medical examinations that humans usually go through

[Inexpensivefurniture]

@CasaNorba Mkay even if we go by your "logic" of dog microchips, even those don't have tracking capability.

[CasaNorba]

@Inexpensivefurniture my neighbor's dogs are microchip and the few times they've gotten loose she was able to find them in no time

[CasaNorba]

@Vencam " not without wasting a substantial amount of money over each and every nanotracker."

hello, that's why they're being funded by the infamous Bill Gates.

"Also keep in mind that chips for dogs have the convenient aspect of not caring about secrecy "

yeah I highly doubt dogs value their privacy and freedom as much as we do. that part of life does not pertain to them

[Vencam]

A proximity chip is quite different from a TRACKING chip (a chip equipped with GPS and medium-long range transmission system)
Regardless, I'll reiterate my point: it's impossible to put any sort of meaningful tracking device in a human through a sirynge and not have it show up in scans later. It MAY, MAAAYBE be possible if you spend a few hundred dollars for each singular chip, as that's probably the MINIMUM needed to make such nanomachines possible (IF it is possible at all)

[Vencam]

Bruh... Do you seriously think Bill Gates or any other billionaire would waste his assets just to have informations about you they could already get through your phone or in others cheaper ways?
I mean, even if they could make a tracker for 100 dollars, that's still over a FIFTH of his whole assets just to make one for each US citizen! (I'm considering roughly 150 billions as his assets)

The point I wanted to make about dogs was how those chips are CHEAPER and SMALLER then any counterpart one could think to use on humans as those need to be secretive and not show up on scans. That is a HUGE technical difficulty and ramps up costs enormously

[Inexpensivefurniture]

@CasaNorba Well then she was very lucky because animal microchips have to be read by a scanner to get the owner's info. You can't track them

[CasaNorba]

@Inexpensivefurniture wrong, if they can't be track then it defeats its purpose. all the scanner does it detect if the dog has it or not and if he/she does then it will match it with the owner's info. because after all anyone can find your dog and claim its theirs unless the chip has you as the registered owner

[CasaNorba]

@Vencam he seems to have enough assets to create a pandemic every 20 years and manifest other deadly diseases like the ebola, bird flu, etc. so why not? are you really this naive? do you not know how robber barons work?

and yea you might be right about the dog chips being cheaper and all, but you do know times are different now. there is a reason why PS5, PS4 and PS3 are able to read Blu Ray disc while PS2 and PS1 cannot

[Inexpensivefurniture]

@CasaNorba the entire point is just to have the owner's info with the dog at all times, not to be able to find a lost dog. It's like a permanent collar, so if a shelter picks up a loose dog, they can find it's owner. Obviously some jerk could claim the dog is theirs, it's not a perfect system. But the microchip cannot be tracked, only scanned. I have spoken with vets who perform microchipping about this at length. I'm just passing on what they told me

[Vencam]

@CasaNorba You're focusing on just parts of the argument. Even if someone had the resources and will to put hi-tech hyper-expensive trackers in a vaccine that has the eyss of the world on it (which I don't think makes sense, but it's not important for the point)... That would still be impossible. As I stated multiple times already, there is no technology to achieve what you seem to be worried about (personal tracking (I'm goign to pretend I didn't read the part about mind-reading))

[CasaNorba]

@Vencam how do you know such technology does not exist? are you a scientist in Area 51? do you think the government is stupid enough to inform us on such hardware?

[Vencam]

That's quite the nonsensical reasoning you're trying to make there.
I could say "right back at you: where are the nanomachines you fear? You think nobody would be able to hack even a smidge of information about it?" but that is just making assumptions
What I can tell you for certain is that consumer technology is decades far away from what you're fearing, while military applications aren't much ahead as there is no point in this sort of technology at the current state (other then very specific medical applications).
Then of course, we could shoot around hypothesis about what the government is hiding, how someone in Iraq can hack into any body's bank account with a snap of his fingers and how China is controlling the weather to make some specific countries dry and others prosper... But those are all speculations, in which I dislike delving, so I'll leave you to those, unless you'd rather back your reasoning up with logic and evidence (of which, there has been quite the lack so far)

[CasaNorba]

@Vencam you pretty much annihilated yourself by saying "in which I dislike delving"

you obviously admitted that you choose not to do any research of your own and would rather believe it what you're being told by losers that brainwash people for a living.



you're a prime example of the image above. you obviously rather believe that headline because you refuse to DELVE on the fact that fishes are aquatic animals that live in water and therefore can't drown

[Vencam]

Bruh... You're nitpicking at bits and pieces of sentences to make a "point", are you convinced that's a valid way to argument anything?
Regardless let me explain even more clearly for you: I am not interested in having a conversation over this topic based purely on speculations. I think those kind of discussions bring forth more absurd ideas then solid ideas as the base is not facts, but assumptions themselves
Up to where we discussed if your worry was founded on a technical standpoint there were plenty of facts we could use to reference the conversation, but if you want to justify everything with your suspicions, then I won't be onboard with the conversation anymore.

[CasaNorba]

@Vencam I'm not nitpicking any sentence, I'm actually nitpicking your logic.

obviously there is no such thing as 100% correctness, when you discuss something you're bound to hear some speculations at some point. better yet what exactly isn't speculations to you? the things you hear our government funded news talk about that "sound" true?

till then yea the real reason why you are no longer onboard with this conversation is because you're obviously not a CRITICAL THINKER yourself. you believe the news is God and therefore they "must never LIE and only what they say is considered FACTS. and everyone else who disagrees or questions them in nonsense is automatically being ABSURD!"

[Vencam]

Now you're making a sounder argument.
In this context I used "speculation" to refer to any information that is just an assumption of ours (eg: the vaccine is being distributed is a fact; nanomachines being in the vaccine is a speculation). While I do not have an issue with discussing speculations themselves (which is what we've been doing up to a point), I prefer not to base tho whole conversation on those. Which is where this seemed to go when you answered with what I called "nonsense": trying to make an argument over assumptions rather then a solid starting point (The technology existing is an assumption, having incredible advanced science in area 51 is a assumption, the government possessing information over nanobots in the virus is an assumption not much different from "the virus has nanobots" itself)
I wouldn't mind discussing a single assumptions of these as there is (more or less) a good starting point from which we could say "OK, we both agree things are like this, but here's the thing", but when you try to justify a whole conversation with those, it's not to be expected that whoever you're talking to share those same assumptions

Referring to the last part of your answer: it's quite rare for me to watch any sort of news, so I'm not even sure what sort of media are you assuming controls my mind...

[CasaNorba]

@Vencam you did not answer any of my question. all you did was repeat the same shit you said before in a longer and reworded format

[Vencam]

I think I did answer your (2) questions in the last comment and made clearer why I don't think it's productive to discuss the "vaccine may have trackers in" by looking at it politically: too many assumptions to get any-meaningful-where

[Iron_Man]

I’m getting it soon I don’t want a fever

[summiter]

None at all. I can't wait to get one.

[bklynbadboy1]

Tuskegee Airman Need I say more

[Jmmmfi4]

I have no concerns cuz I'm not mentally retarded

[casserolie]

dying

[eagle1951]

to new not tested enough

[Dweezil]

Who gives a fuck?

[Justneedtokno]

It’s up to you what you want to do

[Dweezil]

Yep!!!

[Justneedtokno]

So? Are you going to get it or not

[art84]

Maybe getting an allergic reaction to it.

[Anonymous]

Too new not enough data.

[Paulychicago10]

I have no concerns

[Anonymous]

That it is too new.

[Anonymous]

Nothing

[jimmy2]

I got my first shit... ohhhh my body hurts

[KerubysiO]

Better than diynig of covid 19 or making your parents sick because you got the condo before them

[Farmer_Phil]

Not getting it

[Anonymous]

The side effects and if it really works

[Anonymous]

Infertility

[cb24l]

I'm not taking it