Correction: I actually HAVEN'T been to my doctor to confirm
Thank you so much for this!
Thanks! Still thinking
Well don’t wait too long because it takes two weeks after every shot to kick in. And you certainly don’t wanna get sick laying in bed
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You had covid you already have antibodies for it no need for the shot in my opinion
@PeacefulRainDrop I would rather have it than risk any natural immunity ebbing away, leaving me open to getting another load.
@PeacefulRainDrop covid antibodies from catching it only last around 36 days, you can catch it multiple times quite easily
My friend has had antibodies for over 7 months now. He just got tested positive for them, and it has been nearly 8 months since he was infected.
@NobleFlight That certainly does not apply in all cases. I am taking as few risks as possiblei. First jab next week.
I'm sure I came across a study talking about life long immunity in plasma...
Thanks for your opinion
@PeacefulRainDrop Your opinion is incorrect.
Good. I’m gonna get my first shot in a week.
Also, there are multiple studies indicating that the number and type of T-cells that result from a covid infection are different than those that result from vaccination. The ones that result from vaccination are longer lived and more robust than the ones that result from infection. There is absolutely no reason to not be vaccinated.
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Thank you so much!
I should add that some people do get more side effects like body aches, fever and chills, headaches and other things like that. ... it's more likely after the second shot, but you can also get it on the first one. This is normal. It doesn't mean you are sick, it just means your body is reacting to what it THINKS is the virus even though it isn't. After two or three days it should all go away.A very small number of people also get an allergic reaction right after they take the shot, but you will be told to remain there for 15 minutes or so after you take it just to be sure you don't. And if you do, they know how to take care of it so you are safe.Nothing is 100% risk free. But in my judgement, it is safer to get the vaccine than not get it.
One last thing... the needle they use is very fine and short. If you have a competent person administering it you probably will barely even feel the shot. It's nothing.
This guy's post:"And by the way, a family member of mine had both shots. Now they stink of mold. Their entire room stinks. Other family members that spend long enough around them feel ill too. Their blood pressure went from 120 (before shots) to 155 (after), they started to suffer stomach issues. Then a few months later they were taken to hospital with bowel spasms and severe pain... and now they no longer have control over their own bowels and can only take a shit with the aid of laxatives."🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I think he need a shot of an anti-psychotic drug!Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!
(I can't send a private message to you as I don't have the status. But I saw a post by you from a month ago about trying to warn your family. Did you have any success at all?I am in the same boat... and I find it a continual hell that my 2 grownup kids - and the rest of all my family, and almost all my friends - can't hear me through the propaganda [I live in the UK too]. Knowing the real potential dangers only too well, I wioud be so sad to see them get hurt in the months/years ahead due to the injected untested chemicals.On top of that there's the frustration of their feeling sorry for me for being gullible to conspiracy theorists, etc!Anyway, I am looking for a way to approach my children - whom I normally leave alone when it comes to the Cov Great Divide - with a good set of logic, or something - which would penetrate the hypnotic barrier. I'd appreciate any thoughts you might have. Your post was one of very few relevant responses which came up in a [duck and go] search.)
@McBryde Hi, you're welcome to message me of course. I hate to be defeatist, but honestly, I think some people, or even humanity as a whole, is going to have to learn its lessons the hard way. The house of cards is primed to tumble in a monumental way.No, I had no success with my family. They tried to fear me into getting the vaccine (which of course I rejected). I tried to warn my sister and her husband, they pretty much jeered me. I tried to show them the yellow card deaths from the government's own website. I'm guessing I got such a visceral reaction from them because they weren't aware of the deaths, it frightened them, combined with the usual cognitive dissonance and collective arrogance. It's shocking that people don't even seem to be aware of the basics (the yellow card scheme, the high number of deaths and adverse incidents, the fact that it only has emergency use, long term effects unknown, manufacturers indemnified from liability - kind of tired of repeating it). Unfortunately, my week was pretty bad as well. There was one girl who I had a conversation with. She wasn't getting the vaccine either. But it was quite a painful experience talking to her. I was talking about 'freedom day' and how I predicted it was going to be put back. And she was like, "oh, I thought we pretty much were free, we had most of our restrictions lifted, we can still do most things, go to the pub, shops, etc". And then I got the further sinking feeling, that she's all chill, unbothered by it all. And I'm looking like a lunatic to her by getting visibly angry or upset about it all. The problem too, is like you say, the great division. But if you take a firm stance on it, you're essentially creating a division and a distance between you and those who you seek to inform or influence. Thus your strategy is nullified.
What can we do? I'll have to admit, most of my own works have been ineffective against the tor**** of propaganda. I guess, probably for our own sanity, we have to realise that certain things are beyond our (karmic) control. Seek solace in a higher power. Try not to get too entangled in arguments. Keep things simple and focus on key shocking facts and statistics (Such as covid deaths according to the ONS being 1% of total deaths, and total deaths being under the five year average). This is a learning curve for us all. Don't get bewildered by intellectual arguments. Speak from your moral core. Be outraged by the key injustices and the lunacy of it all. Hugotalks videos can be good at conveying key facts succinctly: hugotalks.com/.../Most probably won't watch though.We also need to seek community and ways bypassing and ignoring restrictions for our own sanity. This past year plus has been extremely isolating.But yeah, what can you do, if people aren't even willing to do the most basic of research? Even the fundamentals are off here. And it's all easily and quickly verifiable. So realistically, if people are too lazy for that, how are you supposed to help them?
By the way, my interactions with that girl illustrate something interesting. if people are comfortable, their brains pickled with furlough, McDonalds, and Coronation Street; or at least they are comfortable in their own situation; then they will never wake up. Only when something effects them personally, do they actually care. The government is likely aware of this in their extensions of furlough scheme, till what, September is it now?
Thanks, Levin. I appreciate your responses. I've continued in messages - as it's slightly off topic for this forum I reckon.
@McBryde I had the same problem with my family, and unfortunately there is nothing that can be done. I had to let them go and make peace with it. You could show them solid evidence and they would still deny it. Remember the brain washing has been going on since birth. After taking the shots the health of my family has gradually declined, and pre-existing health issues have become worse. But the vaccines are never to blame. They even ended up in hospital... but it's just a coincidence.My advice to you is to accept it and make peace with it. Logic will not do a thing. Even when people are presented with decades of data about masks not working, they still wear them, and still ignore it. It's the same with the vaccines.People should ask themselves why they are testing vaccines on children for a virus that has such a low mortality rate, and that has dozens of therapeutics and safe forms of treatment.
Thanks for this
Covid is not the flu.
@msc545 My point was the whu flu vaccine is under an EUA, the typical flu shot has full FDA approval.
You didn’t have C0ViD! You’re a fkin moron. You eat everything in sight. You’re probably overweight. So you have all kind of complications and different sickness and diseases in your body probably a heart failure your kidneys are failing and etc. now you’ve taken a lethal injection. RIP! You dumb fk!
@Rok4bakARRIP to me? Thanks.Rot in hell to you.
One less useless eater
@Rok4bakAR Yep, that'd be you.
Here's the link to the study I referenced.www.cdc.gov/.../p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html
Thank you so much
why are you ask random people you don't know to take it?
But if she has a bad immune system if she does not take the vaccine it be much worse and she could end up at the hospital, somethng that with the vaccine is prevented.
@kitty71 talk to your doctor? he or she might prescribe something to boost her immune system or write a doctor's note excusing her from ever taking the vaccine
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And when you’re natural immunity ends, will you get it?
@On_cloud_wine latest research shows a lifetime of natural immunity.
Nobody lived that long to see the day lmao
@On_cloud_wine I'll take my chances.
But you’re telling this young lady to take it
@On_cloud_wine Right. She didn't say she had covid. She's older so however small her chances of getting severe covid are higher. Risks are still low for any death or damage from the vaccine.
Lmao thank you
By the way, cases have doubled in my area in a week, (as of today ). Our 3rd wave is on its way, fuelled by the India variant. It is gonna come your way, so be prepared. 60% more infectious indoors than the original variants.
@Jessica405 Ok, what did I tell you last time? Telling me “cases have doubled” means NOTHING. How many cases did you have previously? What are they now? What is your population?
It went from 13 to 29 in 7 days. Two weeks ago it was 7 cases. Population about 100,000. A while ago it was 50. Sure, I live in a very rural area where there is not much transmission, but it will keep doubling. For what it is worth, UK had 8125 cases today. It was less than 1900 four weeks ago. It has gone up more than 4 times. Ignore my figures if you so desire. I don't give a fuck. It is not the actual figures that are scary. It is the RATE of increase
@Jessica405 the actual figures DO matter. I could say to you OMG Cases have doubled!!! When it goes from 1 to 2 in a population of a billion and it’s insignificant.Even at your “doubled” numbers, it’s.02% of the population. That means 99.98% do not have Covid-19. This really isn’t a nightmare scenario.
You are wrong!! Those figures are the INCREASE! Not the number of extant cases. Total cases to date are 4,550,944. That of course includes those who have recovered. Out of a pop of some 60,000,000 it is a fair percentage
@Jessica405 I’m not wrong, and you suck at math and risk assessment. The number of cases vs. the total population is more important than cumulative cases. Furthermore, really only hospitalizations and deaths count. Who gives a shit if someone is asymptomatic with covid-19. The pandemic is over in the US. Sorry your country isn’t as fortunate.
ROFLMAO!! You have no idea of my qualifications. I cannot talk to people like you who think they are so smart. Anyway, I am having the jab next week, and my brother is is another 2 or 3 weks. I will still keep my distance and wear a mask. I do not go into cafes etc, but use tables outside.End of convo.
@Jessica405 lol, you’re right. Because you’re not making any sense. So if you are some sort of mathematician, might want to take a statistics class.
Can the numbers be trusted? How many cycle thresholds are they using on their pcr tests at the moment? This is an interesting article. off-guardian.org/.../
Go and get infected and infect others then.
@kitty71 I work in the grocery business which means I am a front line worker and have not gotten sick in the last year and half so think I am safe. I have seen where a lot of nurses are refusing to get the shots, might being trying to tell you something.
I know people who work at hospitals and neither one is refusing a vaccine. If you believe n some conspiracy theories, then that is stupid., Or if u beleive the vaccine has some chip on it or things like that that is so dumb to believe or that it changes your DNA anotehr stupid thing to believe.
That’s from the very common MMR vaccine not Covid. Do you know how many have received that MMR vaccine over the decades with no problems vs the extremely small number that had a bad reaction to it? I guess contracting measles, mumps and rubella is a better option in your mind. There was a reason that vaccine was developed. Know why? BECAUSE CHILDREN WERE DYING
This story is FAKE NEWS
Uh, oh!! A bunch of butt hurt Fauci ass kissers!!
I have immunity and I’m young and very healthy so I’m not getting it.
So what if you have immunity you can still be a carrier.
by the way in your 30's isn't young people younger then you have died.
@EyesOfGod are you saying I’m in my 30s?
It has emergency approval from the FDA.
Yes, but that's not "approved" in the normal sense
Yes well covid has not approved at all. What do you think is higher? Your chances of dying from covid or your chances of dying from the vaccine?
For a healthy individual with no health concerns, COVID isn't dangerous at all. Too little data exists to understand if the vaccine is dangerous to anyone.
If she's this stupid. She should take it. I'd say.
@Rok4bakAR that’s exactly how our masters see it... I’d prefer not to align myself with their dark ways
Yah with all the endless in our pockets. Still you get morons acting uhmmm.. should I like shove my knife in my ass?
Endless informations in our pockets**
@Rok4bakAR its emotional mind control they are victims of
My people will perish for lack of knowledge ignorance is a choice in 21st century
Care to name a few ways of avoiding covid? I guess one would be self isolation.
@Jessica405 keeping your immune system strong, self isolation is the WORST thing! Stop listening to doctors who make you sick. Go outside and roll around in the dirt, pet a dog, eat some food you just dropped on the floor, take vitamin d and c every day, eat mushrooms and high nutrient foods, drink lots of filtered water, get exercise and sunlight, SOCIALIZE!!! Hug people, be around people!
@Jessica405 Since when were our immune systems designed to benefit from isolation?
@turth yah take jab and die! One less useless eater
This is just pathetic.
@msc545 Yes! You have just made my day. Covid cases, most of which are the India variant, have doubled in a week in my area. I also read that daily cases in UK have gone from under 1900 per day to 8125 as of today. More than 4 times the rate in 4 weeks.USA!! Watch out!! It is coming your way. 60% more infectious indoors than the first variants.
@Jessica405 enjoy your cult!
YOU enjoy long covid like I have done for 5 months. There is no effin' way I am going to risk another load in a few months. It was evil. You can take my place!
@Jessica405 get ready for even worse if you take that shot. There is something going on and iv been feeling fkd for 5 months now but im starting to feel better and i ain't riskin my health with these god damn vaccines, and if you do, then you will bear the consequences
All the senior members of my family, and friends too, have been jabbed for months. Not a single problem.
@Jessica405 alright cool do it then what r u waiting for? Its totally safe right? Wait 10 years and tell me how that goes. Ofc none of your conditions will be from the vaccine, they will all be unrelated, I’m sureEnjoy!
If you’re really 13, there’s ZERO reason for you to get the vaccine. You’re more likely to die from the vaccine than from Covid-19.