
Would you be willing to pay double in taxes if US spent more on mentally ill with treatment and institutions?

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No I wouldn’t be willing to, because the government takes enough in taxes already they just mismanage they’re funds and spend it on things that aren’t as necessary
No although I do think treatment for the mentally ill is important. Money is already tight as it is.
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Honestly I would totally love it if they did more about the mentally ill... but lets be real people any system we put in to place would be corrupted. Most the money would go toward people trying to tell the rest of us sane people that we should be more accepting. Then shame us for not giving a shit about people that failed in life and now need us to validate them for being just as good as us, when we all know they are not.
Every thing I was taught as kid about what's right and wrong, good and bad today has been turned on its head by these bleeding hearts. Honestly I was told not to do things, don't make those choices in life... it you do that you will end up like loser bum on the street and you don't want to be a loser bum. So I work hard and made smart choices, and not it wrong to call loser bums, loser bums and we are supposed to do more for them because we can, but we will always expect and accept less from them.
They would corrupt the program by forcing their tender heart, rainbow and unicorns bull shit on us hard working types that can cut it in the real world while these people collect welfare, unemployment and workers comp and now use this metal health bullshit to qualify for even more assistance when we all know damn well they have no intention of making a honest contribution to society.
I live in a residential neighborhood, so such a facility wouldn't be allowed to be built next to my house. I'm in single and double family homes only.
But low-density group homes. where a few people live would be fine. However, I think there is a need for larger scale institutions that will hopefully graduate people to group homes and then back out into the general public. But SOME people will need a lifetime of institutionalization. Mentally sick people should NOT be in prison, where the majority of them are today. It's shameful.
Equally shameful is the homeless problem which is also populated by the addicted and mentally ill. These people are so out of touch with reality they might get help temporarily through medication and therapy, but once they feel better, they stop getting help and descend back into fear and madness.
Why double? I'm guessing you just plucked that number out of thin air.
About 5.5% of US spending on healthcare goes on mental health. The UK spends 14.8% of its healthcare budget on mental health, and there's also the NHS, providing universal healthcare, free at the point of delivery.
The average tax rate in the US is 22.4%. The average tax rate in the UK is 23.3%.
So how about, instead of asking if people would be willing to pay double the amount of tax, you ask if they'd be willing to pay 4% more tax, if the US spent more on mental health, and you got universal healthcare thrown in too?
No.
I pay PLENTY already. I need as much as I can keep for me and MY family.
They get enough money. Be a good steward of our money and don't wasted so much and cut programs if they show that they aren't working.
I know how budgets work though... once a department or program is created... it will live forever. They need check to see if it is necessary or is getting the intended results and they aren't scaled back or disbanded. You have to spend everything in your budget so that at the end of the year they can just raise the budget for the next year.
There are people out there who seem to think people work and toil 40, 50, 60 hours a week... just to fund the politicians in office and that we aren't working for our own lives and families... who NEVER think enough taxes are taken and who are ALWAYS looking for new ways to take more tax money away from people.
What I would pay double my taxes on is the legalization of sterilization. I have nothing against the mentally ill as people but they are mentally ill because there is something wrong with their genetics.
In the 1900s and earlier many of them wouldn't have survived to adulthood because back then there wasn't the health care or sympathy for them and as... to be extremely blunt... they contributed little nobody cared. Much like how many of the slugs on welfare - drug addicts, drunkards, etc and nothing else wrong with them - would've likewise died off back then.
Because western society has become so weak kneed and coddles to such people their numbers are ever increasing. When naturally - again as in the 1900s - that wouldn't be the case. Because nature doesn't like anything - be it human or ant - that contributes little to survive and reproduce.
*and sterilization won't just be for such but welfare slugs, repeat criminals, etc. They did it in some US states up until the 1930s possibly 50s if I remember my history correctly
Why would it involve doubling taxes? The reality is the reason Europe doesn't have many of Americas social problems from mass homelessness to mass shootings is we intervene in mental health issues early on. It's better to pick someone up, dust them off and send them on their way than leave him on the ground to be trampled on until he can't stand up, but hey to you guys that's communism.
No Freedom of speech in Europe, You allow Muslims to just rape women and do nothing because they were not dressed correct. No military , you still depend on US to protect you. Europe is dysfunctional
I don't know about "double" because I pay enough as it is. I also feel that instead of spending $Billions on illegal immigrants and Putin's War, we should be dealing with our own problems - namely mental health seeing how craziness has overtaken our country.
I'm not in favor of it.
People in general do not take mental health seriously and therefore would not seek any psychotherapy. Or they don't even understand mental illnesses. Which is why professional psychologists are being selected carefully, not the type, that says "eat salads and lift weights and smile at the mirror".
The other problem is that freeloaders would take advantage of these services while taxpayers finance those services and most likely do not use these services themselves because refer to what I have said above. I know way more people, who don't go to the doctors than those, who do.
Granted paying for (mental) healthcare seems sort of like a barrier to basic human rights as-is. But my point is if you need psychotherapy, go and get it. Most people don't go consulting with psychologists. Or worse they argue against the medical professionals.
I am willing to sacrifice for this and any other cause that makes people, neighborhood, community better off and safer.
The shooter recently was not cared for properly before he went on his rampage at the school. Most shooters are suicidal. I would rather spend my money on solving the real problem instead of enforcing some unnecessary gun control. Ya I will sacrifice for that.
no, I'm willing to tell people to go back to God, get out of the school system indoctrination system, stop taking drugs and vitamins including prescribed drugs, eat real food instead of junk food and grow it yourself, turn off the media garbage and take responsibility.
Then, I'll pay more for mental health.
Trow money at it is never a solution
Money is not what is needed its to be more effective
So I am aginedt this, I will however be all for a org to come up to help spunsored by the goverment that shuld help, as they be smaller and more likely more effective on what they do then a goverment can hope to do
Don't know what it's like in the US but we are already paying tax on everything. TV licence, road tax, councils tax, water rates, bin collection, pole tax, inheritance tax, beer tax, fuel tax, income tax, vat, national insurance. Even tax on alcohol, sugar, pasties
I don't think the ill need to be instutitionalized. We tried that already. Doesn't work. But, we do need to spend more money on less weapons and more on welness of people
THe same people who say "don't tread on me", also say "abortion is murder"
Taxation is theft. the Government would use it to funel drug and gun money through the Ukrain and the mental facilities would be nightmares. the Government has negative insentive to run anything properly its a rule of market forces. Businesses prosper when they succeed. Governments prosper with failure. "yes weve been taxing you for 100 years to fix the roads... but the roads are trash so we have to raise your taxes to fix the roads..."
The mental health treatment budget is a small fraction of what is spent to prop up and enrich military contractors and weapons makers (Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, General Dynamics, Raytheon, etc). Use some of that money.
As for a facility next door to me - sure! I could walk to work!
No, id rather just vote for democrats who will spend the tax money I already pay on such things, instead of republicans who spend it on subsidies for the rich.
keep believing that. the democrats bank roll corporations
@normalice Dude you’re the one who started caterwauling about Republicans and Democrats but OTHERS will believe anything? 😂 God, the projection really is amazing to see.
despite what so many will claim in public, most will come down very firmly on the side of "no."
it's not b/c of lack of desire for caring for the ill; rather, the lack of government to actually do anything about it. imposing a tax for a specific purpose is too often all smoke and mirrors. that's why we have so many wandering the streets now.
Double from when? We have paid double and double again and double again.
oh , you must triple your taxes
In that case, I will need the mental health services. 😱
probably so, you know taxes are going to explode , next year. Middle class with get hammered
I would pay double in taxes if we had a results based approach to gun violence.
Why pay to help the mentally ill, if that does not result in children being safer in classrooms?
Lets take the 70 billion dollars we will be spending on the illegal aliens Biden has let roam inti the country and spend it instead on mental health care for citizens. After all, they are the ones who paid taxes all these years.
You know we used to have this and yet we pay more taxes proportionally to wages. It's not about the money it's about the corruption
We just sent another $40b to our Ukraine Proxy war. Maybe our government should stop sending all of our tax payer money overseas and start following a budget like most Americans have to.
I would hope they get help, there are cherities that help those that have no insurance... But health care is not a right its a privilege. No one is entitled to the labor of another. Period. To say otherwise is to endorse slavery.
No, because I myself am mentally ill and the dang Yankeeland is polluting too much of our taxes into animal agriculture and animal testing and G-d knows what other evil deeds. How about using that dough for helping us instead?
Why on earth pay double taxes when we're already sending 40 billion dollars overseas at the drop of a hat?
It's not the job of the USA taxpayer to fund the world. How about we just fund the USA and enjoy the massive savings.
They do not want to fix mental illness or homeless. They do not properly use the taxes they get now on the things they say its for!
Well healthcare should be a Medicare for all system anyway and we don't need to pay more taxes.. just give less to big business and more to we the people.
My insurance covers mental health. Taxes wouldn't double over it, it doesn't need THAT much funding.
No. I am struggling to survive. More money out of my check could make me homeless
Just spend the money they send overseas and spend on our own people for treatment
No I don’t care about mentally ill people the world would be a better place without them.
If you double taxes you would have even more mental ill people, all you would do is make the problem worse
Government institutions are very mismanaged, Corrupt, Rough and notvery well organised. There's a lot corruption involved, and the Services are poorly structured.
I would supoort the Automated Deposit Tax
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Nope. Stop fucking sending money to other countries and spend it on Americans.
It shouldn’t cost that much
$77,000 cars shouldn't cost that much either
You can improve mental illness care for everyone without doubling people’s taxes. Just raise them a little. Or take it out of the military budget.
we are heading towards world war 3 , you don't lose it on purpose
No. Let those in charge of them pay extra.
That $40 billion to Ukraine could've done wonders.
No. Fuck that. Cut some other spending.
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