So? Only two opinions matter they're those of the ones involved in the relationship. And you can still just walk away from a marriage. It would just involve paperwork.
I'd love to find a perfect woman (not 10/10 looking or a "perfect" personality... but someone who fits with me) I could have for the rest of my life. Unfortunately 1) Those don't exist mostly 2) People change 3) Marriage gives women too much power and I've worked way too hard to earn what I've earned.
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So you're just going to ignore the fact that divorce and infidelity exist?
Er... no. Marriage belongs in a patriarchal society. I don't think guys want to commit anymore to women. Not worth the effort. Women like to control men and women used to be nice to us... but now, women in the west are just not worth it. Marriage is dead to me
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I'm very nice to my husband and very traditional You need to find the right woman.
Not surprised, that people conform Surprised, that people lack the common sense, that the same things can be achieved without marriage and it wouldn't be any more different in a healthy working relationship, except both people aren't legally chained.
@redeyemindtricks What if you don't like rituals? Especially the way the marriage rituals are generally carried out. A lot of the stuff that you do in them makes me wince.
The details of the vows and ceremony are ultimately up to you, unless you are following an extremely conservative religious tradition (which I think I can safely assume you aren't). It's normal for most couples to personalize those things as per their own priorities.
(Yr original response was "Especially the way the marriage rituals are generally carried out. A lot of the stuff that you do in them makes me wince"... which doesn't address legalities.)
If you're talking about prenuptial agreements (and/or the lack thereof), I do think it'd be a better system if those were actually *required*, rather than just being an optional opt-out to the default system. That would remove a lot of the emotional baggage. But, if that's the sort of thing you're talking about, you certainly shouldn't be unable to discuss it with yr future wife!
If that's *not* the legalities you had in mind... what did you have in mind?
@redeyemindtricks This is separate to my previous statement. :) I'm talking about everything that comes with being legally married. To me, it's unnecessary and the law should stay out of it.
@redeyemindtricks You're essentially implying to take the vow of being together with your partner (ritual making) by saying "I do" every day. But guess what? You can be not married and still be there for your partner.
Marriages are not invincible and they make no relationship as such. In my opinion we humans have gone too far with it so much, that we forgot the essential importance of the actual roots, that drew couples together and are holding it together.
Just like fixing a broken pipe. You can use duct tapes to fix them or weld them together. Welding them makes both parts sturdier but they aren't unbreakable, however you might damage the pipes further if welded sloppy.
If relationships are going to an end then it's meant to be that way and it's natural. Let things happen because everything happens for a reason. And so will my break ups with any girl, who NEEDS to get married.
You only get the downvotes because women don't like when the truth is spoken. It might make a man somewhere think twice about wifing some chick up, and they DO NOT like that idea one little bit.
There's no such thing as the 'right' woman to marry. That's like picking the 'right' cobra to share a sleeping bag with, or the STD that's right for you, or the 'right' ticking time bomb to walk around with (and NO indication of when it will detonate).
I was with the right woman for 14 years. We were the couple that everyone admired. Then suddenly she questioned her feelings, wanted to find herself, and damaged the marriage. I am the type that would have worked through anything, but she destroyed the marraige, started dating a rich guy and by the time she realized what she had thrown away it was too late.
You may be the type to work through anything but after years your so may change or not work as hard for it. Nobody can foresee someone changing so drastically. In the end I lost everything.
I'm not trying to be a pessimist but I can't argue with statistics. Also when you constantly hear stories about men getting screwed over in marriage and got his stuff taken then of course guys are going to be afraid to get married. Maybe if many women didn't abuse the system then marriage wouldn't seem so risky.
@Afrochick Oh you sound like such a typical traditional woman. If you want to be traditional than you better do whatever your future husband says since he's the ruler of the house, and if he wants sex than you give it to him too. I mean after all we men are natural leaders and make the orders.
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You can have all of these things without having the government certify your union.
But people don't take it as serious as when you're actually married cause they can just walk out
So? Only two opinions matter they're those of the ones involved in the relationship. And you can still just walk away from a marriage. It would just involve paperwork.
Yes. People in a failing marriage will stay together because they hate paperwork more than each other lol...
I don't know that you can have all these things without a real marriage. It provides a unique sanctity and security.
@Reach500 Yeah you can. The only difference is a little piece of paper.
@Dark_Scorpio exactly ^^ you really can't. A "paper" scientifically proven, makes a big difference. People put much more effort into it.
Scientifically proven? No. People can the same effort in with a simple piece of paper.
I'd love to find a perfect woman (not 10/10 looking or a "perfect" personality... but someone who fits with me) I could have for the rest of my life. Unfortunately
1) Those don't exist mostly
2) People change
3) Marriage gives women too much power and I've worked way too hard to earn what I've earned.
So you're just going to ignore the fact that divorce and infidelity exist?
I said if you pick the right person.
But there's know way to know who the right person is. You could be married for years and then find out that they'te cheating on you.
Er... no. Marriage belongs in a patriarchal society. I don't think guys want to commit anymore to women. Not worth the effort. Women like to control men and women used to be nice to us... but now, women in the west are just not worth it. Marriage is dead to me
I'm very nice to my husband and very traditional
You need to find the right woman.
"used to be nice to us" lol
Personally I don't believe in marriage and it's not for me but to each their own.
Marriage is NOT Such a Beautiful Union. That is boring. When there is a lot of girls, why do we have to stick to one girl?
Because you love her and the lots of girls don't give a shit about you
I mean I don't understand the point of sticking to one person while there are a lot of them. It sounds so boring. I would be bored of the same person.
You said lots of girls don't give a shit about me. Is it because I am not handsome?
Can't you have all these things without getting married?
You can but some will never acknowledge it. It's like an illusion they need, you know?
@Unit1 Yeah, I find that weird.
I'm not surprised and surprised at the same time:
Not surprised, that people conform
Surprised, that people lack the common sense, that the same things can be achieved without marriage and it wouldn't be any more different in a healthy working relationship, except both people aren't legally chained.
@Unit1 Mhm...
@Unit1 @harpesian... Except not really.
Check out my opinion (and the following discussion) here:
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2127658-is-the-institution-of-marriage-becoming-obsolete
@redeyemindtricks What if you don't like rituals? Especially the way the marriage rituals are generally carried out. A lot of the stuff that you do in them makes me wince.
The details of the vows and ceremony are ultimately up to you, unless you are following an extremely conservative religious tradition (which I think I can safely assume you aren't). It's normal for most couples to personalize those things as per their own priorities.
@redeyemindtricks What about the legal stuff, then?
Which legal stuff?
(Yr original response was "Especially the way the marriage rituals are generally carried out. A lot of the stuff that you do in them makes me wince"... which doesn't address legalities.)
If you're talking about prenuptial agreements (and/or the lack thereof), I do think it'd be a better system if those were actually *required*, rather than just being an optional opt-out to the default system. That would remove a lot of the emotional baggage.
But, if that's the sort of thing you're talking about, you certainly shouldn't be unable to discuss it with yr future wife!
If that's *not* the legalities you had in mind... what did you have in mind?
@redeyemindtricks This is separate to my previous statement. :)
I'm talking about everything that comes with being legally married. To me, it's unnecessary and the law should stay out of it.
@redeyemindtricks You're essentially implying to take the vow of being together with your partner (ritual making) by saying "I do" every day. But guess what? You can be not married and still be there for your partner.
Marriages are not invincible and they make no relationship as such. In my opinion we humans have gone too far with it so much, that we forgot the essential importance of the actual roots, that drew couples together and are holding it together.
Just like fixing a broken pipe. You can use duct tapes to fix them or weld them together. Welding them makes both parts sturdier but they aren't unbreakable, however you might damage the pipes further if welded sloppy.
If relationships are going to an end then it's meant to be that way and it's natural. Let things happen because everything happens for a reason.
And so will my break ups with any girl, who NEEDS to get married.
Or did I miss something?
Yes marriage is a beautiful union. Sadly, western women and the government have destroyed it.
Love this, beautiful MyTake 😊❤
7. Clean up ex husbands bank account if marrriage fails
I should not have laughed at this.
@Afrochick
It was indeed funny... but look at all those downvotes!
You only get the downvotes because women don't like when the truth is spoken. It might make a man somewhere think twice about wifing some chick up, and they DO NOT like that idea one little bit.
LMMFAO!!!
No. Just no. Every one of those things is absolute rubbish.
Sorry you're hurt
I'm experienced. There's a difference.
I don't feel pain anymore. I'm numb.
That's bc you were with the wrong person.
There's no such thing as the 'right' woman to marry. That's like picking the 'right' cobra to share a sleeping bag with, or the STD that's right for you, or the 'right' ticking time bomb to walk around with (and NO indication of when it will detonate).
Actually
There is.
Well then, feel free to share your sleeping bag with a venomous serpent. Personally, my sleeping area will remain cobra-free.
Merrage is a bad idea for men. Very bad risk.
Not if you end up with the right woman ;)
The problem is people change.
I was with the right woman for 14 years.
We were the couple that everyone admired.
Then suddenly she questioned her feelings, wanted to find herself, and damaged the marriage. I am the type that would have worked through anything, but she destroyed the marraige, started dating a rich guy and by the time she realized what she had thrown away it was too late.
You may be the type to work through anything but after years your so may change or not work as hard for it. Nobody can foresee someone changing so drastically.
In the end I lost everything.
Don't forget about divorce we all know women love that shit.
I said if you pick the right person
Chances of that are really low. Can't argue with a 75% divorce initiation rate.
What about the 20 something that survived
Be positive.
I'm not trying to be a pessimist but I can't argue with statistics. Also when you constantly hear stories about men getting screwed over in marriage and got his stuff taken then of course guys are going to be afraid to get married. Maybe if many women didn't abuse the system then marriage wouldn't seem so risky.
LOL.
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@Afrochick I feel sorry for your future husband since he's gonna lose all his shit to a gold digger like yourself.
LLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL
I am not a gold digger, I just prefer to to marry up.
@Afrochick Why because a man who makes less money than you isn't good enough? Female hypergamy at its finest. No wonder men are getting sick of women.
Either we make the same amount, or he makes more. Men are natural providers.
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@Afrochick Oh you sound like such a typical traditional woman. If you want to be traditional than you better do whatever your future husband says since he's the ruler of the house, and if he wants sex than you give it to him too. I mean after all we men are natural leaders and make the orders.
1. I have a high sex drive
2. I have not problem being mildly submissive
@Afrochick Good so you have no problem taking it from behind then.
LOL WUT
@Afrochick You don't know what taking it from behind means?
ok this is taking a nasty turn bye
@Afrochick Bye.
I agree. I know I will get married some days 😍
Wow, you live in fantasy land.
That's what I am thinking.
It's an expensive tradition and nothing more.
Yeah, in a perfect marriage...
pretty sappy, and outdated.
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Lol this is a joke right
No
Why?
Cause women nowadays ain't marriage material
What's "marriage material" to you?
:)
That type of girl no longer exists from what I see nowadays
I apparently do
Describe her
Most women just wanna hookup