How do you feel about marriage in 2023?

[cth2188]

If you are SINGLE , If you are SINGLE... Is this something you can see yourself doing or no?

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At this point, no I don't desire marriage anymore less more a relationship.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I think it's the WORST idea you could have in your head if you're a male. It's just fucking dumb. The laws, society, her gender, all of it is set against you. ... And what do you get out of it as a male? Literally... like what does a guy get out of it? If it succeeds... nothing more than before the marriage. If it fails... half your shit, rape your life, and probably make you consider deleting yourself. If it's in between you'll be living a life where you're miserable, but still in servitude and just dealing with her shit to avoid harsh consequences... How is any of that worth it?

Now if you're female it all makes fucking sense to get the marriage. That motherfucking dufus is not only showing he is committed to you, but he's also going to get half his shit removed if he doesn't prove it. You just made him your bitch. What a fucking power move right? At the same time a logical woman or just a woman with a heart wouldn't be pushing for it just as long as the guy is hers. It's a legal certificate that used to mean something... now all it means... what? I mean to men can get it now. Child support gets paid with or without it, so it no longer matters.

I have to add with all that shit talking I just did, I am married. 14+ years now. We married because she's still in the military and we get moved around a lot. It was sort of forced to be together because if not married, they'll move her to another country and I'm not doing some fucking LDR... that shit is gay. So I made the sacrifice and play on my computer and PS5 all day everyday while I get drunk! Dats rite!

[cth2188]

I don't want marriage anymore nor a relationship

[cth2188]

Waste of time and most of the time men I encounter are toxic af / broken / and dysfunctional

[cth2188]

I'm at peace single

[cth2188]

I've been single 11 years and that's not changing

[D_Bone_Steak]

I don't blame you. I mean if you're not looking for money, it doesn't make sense for a woman either. Only sexual gratification is left on the table if you take money out of the picture. The emotional stuff might go hard, but who the fuck really sits around needing to be hugged 24/7... I know cheaters do... that's why they cheat because their partner works too much.

We're living in a fucked up time and place. I found my life partner 14+ years ago, but if I was single during this time segment... I'd just buy sex dolls/toys and enjoy my life. That's just me though. What are your reasons for not wanting marriage or a relationship?

[D_Bone_Steak]

Dang... you answered my question before I hit enter to see you've already answered it. Yup... this is the world we live in.

[cth2188]

No I don't want a man's monet or anything from one. Quiet frankly I am tired of men and their bs. I'm confused when me ask why are you single- I choose to be. If I wanted a man I'd be out there - I'm not.

[D_Bone_Steak]

https://youtu.be/m8X6WA02e8Q

[cth2188]

Dating is a choice. Being married is a choice. Having sex is a choice. I don't do what society tells me at the age you should be married and have kids. I have my kids , but the most I'll ever offer a man is conversation if he wants sex he has to get it from someone else.

[cth2188]

Money

[D_Bone_Steak]

It always boils down to money at some point. Makes me wonder what life was like when just being able to hunt the most meat and bring home the most animal skins was the form of money. I'm be nutt punching cave bears and dragging mastodons over a cliff. Our TeePee would be decked out with fur and the babies would be crawling around while we feast on some sabor-toothed tiger meat. Good times... but times have changed. Now social media plays the part of a social group, not a tribe, and try being top dog or the top girl amongst millions of people. It's best that those of us that are better... remain in the shadows until they kill each other off. They're busy transing their kids and cutting their daughters titts off. That's if they were not aborted in the first place. Best to sit back and watch the shit show. It's just started... it happened in Russia, China, North Korea, Germany, and Cambodia, and I have this dark feeling it's about to happen here in the English-speaking world.

[D_Bone_Steak]

https://youtu.be/TSKizLRFbTo

[cth2188]

I stopped trying with men when men stopped being men. After dealing with so much, I realized I was happier and better off to myself, and I'm not giving up my peace anymore. I don't expect anything from men anymore, and women started doing them sleeping around and whatever else. I'm single and celibate - take care of my kids and my ex Co parents. Truth be told, I don't need his assistance either financially or emotionally. I simply don't expect from any man and stay to myself , but yeah social media destroyed that. I don't online date and too tired to talk to men on there.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Totally relate... it's a shit show out there and I wouldn't want to be a part of it either. They all have mental cancer. ... not joking.

[KrakenAttackin]

Bullshit... you are a "crab in a bucket".

[D_Bone_Steak]

@KrakenAttackin That's a point I was trying to make... I'm a crab in a bucket, and I'm yelling out at you crabs thinking about getting in this bucket with us... DON'T FUCKING DO IT! It's a warning... look at us that have done it. We're unhappy or at best like me, become extremely manipulative which is really common in chicks, so it's probably not going to happen for most dudes.

[cth2188]

I'm done with you men. The end. ✨️

[D_Bone_Steak]

I think we started getting done with you women first. The suckers are all drying up and all you'll have left are fuck boys. You can thank feminism for that.

[cth2188]

I left the dating world in 2014 for a sole reason- don't have to worry about that or anything moving forward

[cth2188]

I really been ducked off since

[D_Bone_Steak]

Again... don't blame you. If I was a chick... I'm just not though. Isolation from the opposite sex tends to drive women really fucking bat shit bananas. There is some social drive that I just don't feel any pain from. If you've found the secret... let the other chicks know what it is. I mean please let them know so they'll stop getting on TikTok complaining about their stupid motherfucking problems 😂

[cth2188]

I can't help those women sorry ! I'm pretty content and saw dating decline in 2015-2017 I left in time ⏲️ ! I have the life I want and no regrets ! Nothing loss nothing gained - men never knew I existed because women like ne were ducked off hidden as I will remain. It's my lifetime movie night 🌙 toodles

[cth2188]

I'll probably be part of the 45% by default it's OK! I've been single most of my life

[CaptainOverthink]

I crave a relationship.. marriage though, it's not even on the radar for me.
But here in Sweden, as a traditional swede, marriage isn't something we throw ourselves into. We don't need a marriage to be commited. It's a formality some do when they have been a family for a long time and don't see themselves changing. A long time can be anything from 5 years, some never do. There's no stigma not to and hasn't been since some time in the 70s.
There are some legal things about heritage and such that do happen automatically when marrying, but you can get the same things through a lawyer.
I agree with this..
I will not marry in 2023, even if I met someone today it would take me at least until 2030 before I'd consider it.

[BeeNee]

Don't marry someone if you aren't ready, you feel you'll be taken advantage of, you are still hung up on an ex or they are, your parents told you, you should, you feel the pressure of your age to get married, or you've never had a single deep conversation with your partner about your goals, your religion, if you want kids, or your financial and living situation. Marriage isn't like the movies. It's work, it's compromise, its communication, it's sharing your space with another human being for the rest of your life...

Start with love and understand the reality. Then and only then, consider devoting your life to another and walking down the aisle to say I do.

[cth2188]

I don't want marriage at all period

[cth2188]

Unless he's celibate 💯 following God and pure

[Xia1994]

I think I was made to remain single because as a single woman I feel at peace, I feel fulfilled and I'm happy and I would not mind remaining single throughout my life.

[cth2188]

Ikr its peaceful ✌️ 😌

[cth2188]

Not giving that up

[Xia1994]

It’s very peaceful and just amazing 😌

[Xia1994]

Thank you for the MHO 😊🌹!

[KrakenAttackin]

@xia1994. You can only ride the cock carousel so long.

[cth2188]

YW@Xia1994 I'm so glad to hear single and CELIBATE! 11 1/2 YEARS I need gfs to hang out with

[cth2188]

I AVOID MEN NOW @Xia1994 stat safety honey 🍯

[KrakenAttackin]

A bunch of women trying to convince themselves cats and boxed wine is better than a good man. Awesome.

[cth2188]

Stay ^ .. I refuse to settle for abuse toxic , misgony, hate, disrespect, etc... I'll play in 🐈 until I tire myself out before I allow a man in me.. this vibrators runs on USB no batteries needed.

[cth2188]

I lay in peace rather than deal with a PIECE OF A MAN... LETTING JACK CHARGE

[cth2188]

No stds , no pain , no gain , no disrespect, no heartbreak

[KrakenAttackin]

Cth2188. Probably a good thing.

[cth2188]

Yes have a fabulous night 🌙 🍷 🥂

[DaveJord]

Marriage, or the social institution of marriage, in the traditional sense is dead or dying.

Its nothing more than legal contract. It has nothing to do with love, you can totally marry someone you don't love. You totally be married and not in love, but in when it ends its nothing more than a contract dispute. In which, regardless of if they ever lived up their end of the agreement you will have to pay them back something.

[SawerBrown]

It's far more then a contract it's a lifelong commitment.

[cth2188]

Yep@SawerBrown I've lost interest in dating because it's toxic and noone cares about commitment anymore or marriage

[KrakenAttackin]

@SawerBrown "Life long commitment"? Marriage is a loaded gun to a man's head with the government ready to pull the trigger on her command.

[DaveJord]

@SawerBrown Thats not true brother... and this problem... popular believe in the social convention of marriage would lead you to believe its a lifelong commitment. But simple fact is that it is not, and when it ends enough through you did everything you were supposed to do... its in court more less as a contract negotiation were it s predetermined that you will pay on some level financially regardless of little they did, or how much you did.

[SawerBrown]

It should never belong court

[cth2188]

Thank you @SawerBrown I can tell you're a man of God and committed to him not many men are it's sad and unfortunate

[cth2188]

I'm married to God at this point

[DaveJord]

@SawerBrown But it does... and that is the reality and facts

[DaveJord]

@cth2188 Soooo... okay. this pointless to the question. Question wasn't about God, it was about marriage in 2023... so I appreciate your faith, but that is not what marriage is about in 2023.

[cth2188]

Idc what marriage is about pretaining to 2023 I'm going off based on scriptures and that was a personal thanks to @SawyerBrown who understands the fundamental concepts of marriage on a traditional level according to the word of God. Marriage is physical and spiritual just like intimacy which is ordained by God for man and woman. Many women or men don't understand this because of their carnal minds and flesh. Have a good day sir and take care !

[cth2188]

@SawerBrown

[cth2188]

Marriage is a contract / commitment before God and doesn't have to be done in the courts aslomg as it's done by a pastor, priest , or ordained minster it can be done. It has to be done before the public eventually and a contract has to be done according to traditional concepts.

[cth2188]

@DaveJord based on your views you are nkt Christian based or following scriptures which exempts you and men like you from the whole concept of marriage pretaining to me you could have ignored what I said and tarred on, buy you chose to engage in a conversation where it didn't include you.

[cth2188]

Not ^ notice I let you men talk and didn't intervene only thanking @SawerBrown there was no need to address me not at all.

[DaveJord]

@cth2188Go into a court of law and tell the judge that... you make believe and have all the faith you want in god... but that's not how the law see its.

A marriage is a contract negotiation. And when someone does not live up to their commitment in eye of God... the courts don't care.

Thats the facts

[cth2188]

What part did you not get you don't have to go through the court of law immediately you can bypass that for a while aslomg as you are married through a priest, pastor, or ordained minster in the sight of God. The courts will have to be done eventually there is a spiritual marriage process and if you want the benefits and follow God's laws then yes you have to get married through the courts exclusively if you reside within the USA

[cth2188]

A marriage is a spiritual and physical commitment and contract with God. Idc what modern society says - modern society says premarital sex is better then sex after marriage why I'd never marry a modern man or a man who honors premarital sex. Even married men who commit adultery you can't do with what you want and put God's signature on it exclusively if it doesn't align with God's word. God doesn't honor premarital and adultery. I'm a traditional woman and would only marry a traditional man who honors God's laws and word- hence why many women are not marrying not enough Godly men who follow God. Hence why submission isn't an option for most women.

[cth2188]

Partial why I'm still single too many modern men seeking submission from women who aren't their wives , but expecting wife duties. I also don't support feminism as it divides the man and woman - neither are equal and feminism goes against God's laws. MAN AND WOMAN are as one in God's eyes not equal!

[cth2188]

A man will never be equal to a woman and vice versa.. it goes against God's laws !

[DaveJord]

Yeah... that's a lot of blaaah, blaah about God. got it. But that's not the questions. And a marriage is what the court of law says it is... which ultimately not very much.

[cth2188]

Yeah I know you don't want to hear about God - hence an ungodly man yet you want to judge someone who is Godly and follows the Bible- you can't mix both worlds as there wouldn't be an understanding. You're telling me about society views about marriage like I care. I don't follow the ways of this world and what " society does."

[cth2188]

You get married how you choose too @DaveJord and let others do it God's way we'll see whose on the winning end. If you desire to get married that is.

[DaveJord]

The question was not about God, you zealot. You can play make believe all you want, but in today's society you are not married unless you have the legal piece of paper. End of story all stop.

mar·riage
noun
1.
the legally or formally recognized union of two people as partners in a personal relationship

[cth2188]

It is about God you can't do anything without God unless you're an atheist ( Non Judgment ) 🙏🏽.. you can't push your views on others and day its normal. Just say you want to do things your way instead of God's way.

[cth2188]

I just said you needed a contract from the courts to be married in the USA , but you can bypass that a while aslong as you're married in the eye sight of God. If you're scared of marriage like most of you men don't expect women to SUBMIT OR BE TRADITIONAL WIVES. MANY WOMEN ARE OPTING out of marriage now. Me included and will remain single and celibate until Yahweh returns.

[DaveJord]

Totally judgmental, nice try, we live in society of laws. So under the law its not marriage just because you believe God ordains it so. Come on get real.

[cth2188]

Anytime marriage is mentioned you American men go nuts. Wow... I take marriage very serious and will wait on the most high to bless me with a mate he has ORDAINED not anyone I'm seeking out at my own.

[cth2188]

Yes, God ordains a man and woman to come together under divine order. I said you can get married through a pastor, priest, and and ordained minster one who is appointed or chosen by God. What do you know ! Not judgmental you're being judgmental and have been!

[cth2188]

It's is marriage 😳 if done in the eyesight of Yahweh how do you think people got married in biblical times! There was no government or anything! Adam and Eve !

[cth2188]

There is a spiritual marriage and physical marriage hence my comments above! Spiritual marriage before YAHWEH and physical marriage in fronts of people hence a wedding ceremony! Just like with intimacy it's spiritual and physical before YAHWEH

[DaveJord]

Whatever just keep beating me over the head with your God hammer. Thor.

[cth2188]

Stop mocking God

[DaveJord]

Stop forcing your personal spiritual beliefs on people... its you I am mocking not god.

[Steelcore5280]

This is my thought on the matter:

Marriage is so skewed in favor of women, thanks to government meddling, that in the event of a divorce, they have the ability to take more than 50% of your income, can take some of your possessions (most of the time things that YOU paid for), and can take the kids, even if she's not fit to take custody. The cards are completely stacked against men, and marriage as an institution has been bastardized completely due to politicians involving themselves in creating laws about it.

Why would I create a legal agreement with an individual (a woman) who benefits far more by breaking those vows than they do by keeping those vows? Answer me that riddle.

[KrakenAttackin]

The only way to win is not to play.

[Googlemyahoo]

Coworker split from wife. she's a teacher making 100k he makes less. To avoid a big fight he let her have the house worth probably 800k. They gave two kids, he also let her have the child tax benefits that come monthly equalling around $500/month.

He still has to pay $700/month support

[KrakenAttackin]

@Googlemyahoo. I am in a very similar position where I pay my ex who makes much more than I do, got everything, and lives large, while I struggle to get by. Yesterday she bought herself a new giant SUV, unreal.

[Googlemyahoo]

@KrakenAttackin he just started a second job. Works 7-330 with me then new job 4-close

[KrakenAttackin]

@Googlemyahoo. I believe it. Divorce is really brutal on men for sure.

[Leapfrog00]

After my last disaster with my ex girlfriend leaving me at our wedding to run off with another guy, I said for the longest time I wouldn't even bother thinking of getting married.

But, if I met a nice girl who loved me for who I am, is completely faithful and doesn't cheat, always has an open ear and cares about me and my problems, will open up to me about anything, and be honest with me, yes, I'd get married.

Am I asking too much? lol

[SaRang21]

I have a different view about marriage now.
Though marriage is more about responsibility but I still crave marriage because I have love to share. I mean to truly love someone. I realised that marriage isn’t about bed of roses. Its a hard thing actually. I don’t wanna marry for money or anything but for love only.

[Sugar100]

I would like to marry but I feel you need good luck to marry. Some women get super lucky and married at 18 with their boyfriend and everything perfect own a house , can have intamicy after marriage.
some people marry to use people now a days too.
Some people even more lucky & marry the first boyfriend or girlfriend they had.
I feel marriage is based on luck and a scam.

[Wild_princess]

Marriage... i will definitely do that one day... but right now i want to groom myself.

[MyOwnMan2]

Trash attitude. A woman waiting til she's 30 is the equivalent of a man saying he will wait till he's 45-50

[Wild_princess]

@MyOwnMan2 well, my attitude is gonna make me lots of money so i gonna keep it... while you can keep your shity opinion to yourself.

[MyOwnMan2]

You don't make money at a job until 20 years into it. Good luck finding a man at that point. Hormones all screwed up, body count 50+, low fertility

[Wild_princess]

@MyOwnMan2 none of your business... please utilise your time somewhere productive... then only you will get a girl

[cth2188]

At this point I need a man not covid-19 vaccinated which exempts most men out my dating pool regardless of what they're talking about @Wild_princess they want women with low body counts but don't have it themselves and walking around infected with covid-19 vaccines 😆

[Wild_princess]

@cth2188 yeah 😂

[cth2188]

These men are now sterile whether they know it or not.. I can't find one man not injected locally all have taken 1 or 2 jabs and judging women.. I think these men need to focus on something else like dating vaccinated women... don't worry about what men like him are saying... these men don't qualify for women like myself.

[cth2188]

I will never date a man who is covid-19 vaccinated

[Wild_princess]

@cth2188 as a premed i can assure you covid vaccine is safe... it doesn't make anyone sterile

[cth2188]

There is information coming out the jabs are making folks sterile- does who are having kids / babies are genetically deformed now

[cth2188]

The covid-19 vaccines are not safe why they're banning them J&J was banned this week

[cth2188]

Those ^

[MyOwnMan2]

And women don't want men with low body counts. Funny how nature works out

[MyOwnMan2]

You're premed and can't tell you don't need a vaccine for covid19? You need to lose weight because COVID's main method of killing is causing the rupturing of fat cells. You don't need a vaccine you need a normal body fat percentage.

[cth2188]

I don't want a man covid-19 vaccinated

[MyOwnMan2]

+ I don't want "a" girl. A "lady".

[MyOwnMan2]

I'm not vaccinated

[cth2188]

@MyOwnMan2 I'm not vaccinated and if you are you need Jesus and a miracle based on the information out nor am I fat

[cth2188]

Neither am I nor will date a man sleeping around with any woman who is

[MyOwnMan2]

I dont care. I don't want a 40 year old woman. I want many women MY age

[cth2188]

Good luck finding a woman you're age man are jabbed and if you've been sleeping with them you are jabbed now

[cth2188]

I don't date little boys who could be my son

[MyOwnMan2]

I dont want "a" woman. How many times do I have to say that? I believe the idea of a woman deserving a man to herself is the biggest flaw, the cause of more problems than anything else in society

[cth2188]

I have a son that's almost half your age

[Smashingdoozy]

I won't refuse to get married but it's not something I am interested in. If my future partner really wants it then I'm happy to make them happy. It's not a deal breaker to me.

[Jazzy54]

I want to be married. I don’t care what year it is. 😊

[andreasderjuengere]

I see it the same way as 1963-2022 - quite indifferent, but not undiscussable.

I don't see myself doing marriage anytime soon; but I'm loyal to the Missus.

[Nikki1989]

I have been happily married for years. 💞

[asphaltrhymes]

I am single and it's not something I see myself doing, I feel amused by marriage. Lol.

[Christoff92]

Like saying Ax and Smash is about to start the Demolition derby. Newly marriages are sweet 😊

[es20490446e]

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[SunnyRS]

I don't see myself getting married in 2023 cause I at least require a few years with someone to get to know them well enough to get married and I don't have someone yet.

[Jltakk]

Marriage is basically a legal albatross for men, so I want no part of it. I'd love a relationship in my life, I just don't see it happening in the near future.

[SawerBrown]

I want to get married to the right woman.

[cth2188]

Good luck

[KrakenAttackin]

Why? Do you think marriage equates steady pussy? It does not. Sex is the first thing to go in marriage.

[LiamJHayden]

Marriage is a great institution, but is a no-go for me under current laws.

[jamesgoldman]

I hope it continues like present because divorces pay the bills

[KrakenAttackin]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. This is a joke, right?

[cth2188]

Nope

[alearningboy]

We are talking a lot with my girlfriend, she wants to work full time and me working just parttime. We want to marry together but for now its expensive and the future is black closed.😊

[Babygirl_S]

I'm not ready yet but it's a dream to get married.

[Anonymous]

The way we do it where it's a 50-50 partnership is unnatural, absurd, crazy and insane.

What if a man had multiple wives? Why shod one of them get 50% of his stuff? It's illogical.

[cth2188]

I'll never go 50/50 with a man ifi were married

[cth2188]

If I were open to marriage

[cth2188]

That's not a marriage- that's a roommate/ why I'd never marry

[mommymommymommy]

i don't want marriage, ever

[cth2188]

Same

[cth2188]

I'm so pass it

[mommymommymommy]

I mean, i guess i understand why women want it, but, like, honestly, i just don't see the benefit to it

[cth2188]

It's not just the benefit- ibjust don't expect anything from men of today - no sex or relationships are happening on my end

[cth2188]

I just don't anymore... I'm tired of men dating and relationships of today... I'm at peace single

[mommymommymommy]

You're content with it

[cth2188]

Yes I am content with my life

[Actor3]

To find the right person for life. Marriage pr live together.

[SaltyBeaches]

I do hope to get married someday.

[cth2188]

GOOD LUCK HONEY

[inhua]

marriage is grand but divorce is 100 grand

[Iron_Man]

I always feel strongly about marriage

[Anonymous]

miracle