Do you agree with these three rules to help you get rich in America?



1. Graduate High school
2. Get married before you have babies (or just don't have babies outside of marriage. practice safe sex)
3. Get a job
  • I completely agree
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  • I completely disagree
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  • I disagree with two of his rules, but not all of them
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  • I disagree with one of his rules but not all of them
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Should be stated that Ben Shapiro here usually says if you do these thinks you will stay out of permanent poverty rather than 'get rich' like he's saying here.

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  • Well, Shapiro talks about this A LOT. He frames it as... do these three things and you won't be permanently poor. Which is different than do these things and be rich. I generally agree with him because the statistics show this to be generally true, but not with you. :)

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    • he framed it as this in that video i posted.

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    • i think he means these rules are like a blueprint for how to get rich. like they may not always make everyone rich, but these things make it easier to do so.

    • Yeah... I disagree with his wording on this one
      .. usually he's a lot more on message... in a sense you should do these to give yourself the chance. But I think he over reached. But overall I agree... do those things you're better off in the long run.

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  • Nobody should say that getting a job is the way to get rich.

    Getting a job is a necessary stepping stone on the way to making yourself rich, but as long as you're working for other people, they'll always get way more work out of you than they'll ever fairly compensate you for.

    Don't work hard to make somebody else rich, use that paycheck to build your own business. Even a tiny one. Even if it fails and you have to get a job again. Work as much as you have to, but keep trying to eventually work exclusively for yourself.

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  • I never graduated high school, I have a GED. I earn more than my sister, and more then my father when he was still working. They both graduated high school. I'm earning nearly as much as my mother, who is a nurse.

    My boyfriend, who doesn't even have a GED, is earning as much as my father was.

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    • A GED is still just as good though and doesn't really disprove his point

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    • Dragonfly, You're completely missing the point. Failing at some others. Toad is spot on.
      Did you avoid having kids before marriage? Do you have a job? Did you graduate or get a GED?
      If you said yes to all of those and you're not in poverty... Congrats! That's his point. Economist Walter E. Williams and Brookings. edu also agree with Shapiro.

      Also, be careful Dragonfly. Saying I make $20/hour, but only 12 hours a week is only $240 which is hardly a substantial amount. While its great for part time work while going to school, I wouldn't say its a fulltime job.

      The point is most people who follow this model get to middle class. Not saying you couldn't drop out of middle school and create the next Facebook. Just stick to doing those three things (and don't get divorced) and you will make it to middle class, regardless of skin color or sex. Too many kids these days are Tindering and sleeping with whoever is hot and sexy and not focusing on finding someone with good values.

    • @scholarlyEducated The GED did not help me to get ahead. The job that I have now is nothing more than independent study and hard work, and most of the staff are seasonal workers from the local art and film college.

      I earn a flat rate per tour, 6 a week and they usually run 3 hours; my paychecks are $640 every two weeks, and earn over $500 a week with my tips included.

      I got my GED in 2004, but worked for my father from 2002 until 2015 when he sold out to retire. He started working for a grocery store at age 14, and stayed with them until he was 30, then used the money he had saved to open the liquor store, 1 year before I was born, and I'm adopted. They literally paid to have me. The diploma didn't help him to get ahead.

      But if you want to check all the boxes, let's use my boyfriend as an example: Married at 21 because of unplanned pregnancy, divorced, now pays child support, no diploma or GED, and no driver's license. Brings home over $600 every week, after paying out support.

  • I mean he's right about getting out of poverty by doing those three things but I always thought the three rules were: A high education, hanging out with the right people and having an open mind.

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  • It's when you get gave things like house car etc that give a advantage because it equals less payments for the objects. Like inherited a car or home or a trust fund is a big leap forward. Wished I had a wealthy family

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  • I disagree with no. 2. Safe Sex yeah, but marriage is by no means necessary in life.

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    • he more emphasizes the not having any children outside of marriage part really

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    • It's statistically true that having kids out of wedlock tend to go hand in hand with not being financially successful. Not a hard fast rule, but something that will clearly cause issues.

    • So are you saying if you have kids out of wedlock it probably won't lead to poverty

  • I think if you do these things... you are well on your way. But I would add dont have children till you can totally afford them.

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  • I don't think life is that simple with just these three options that will make you rich. I'm a conservative myself but I think Ben is not being practical and realistic.

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  • Yup, may I also add: Attend university and get a degree.

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  • I completely agree

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  • Completely logical and solid advice

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  • Hard work with a plan brings success. These are tips to attempt to end the cycle of poverty. I guess that can still be considered a success if you grew up piss poor though like I did. Where I'm from, a white ghetto, everyone is a giant piece of shit lol.

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  • Option 5: these three rules can lead to a comfortable lower middle class lifestyle in certain states, however, schooling of some sort after high school is required for anything better than that. Getting rich requires a really good education at a major university (whether you finish the degree or not is unnecessary), a lot of powerful connections and contacts, a lot of ambition, as well as taking risks, a fair amount of luck, and a spirit of innovation.

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  • I completely disagree. High school is for chumps, I don't see how having babies outside of marriage has anything to do with it, and many of the richest people in the world don't have real jobs

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    • 1. good luck getting a job without finishing high school or getting a GED.
      2. Babies = time and money to take care of that could be spent bettering yourself
      3. not many, only very few people get by without working. and not having 'real' jobs still = jobs so it doesn't disprove his point

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    • 2. But how does being married help?

    • Studies prove that kids do a lot better with two parental guardians. It doesn't necessarily have to be marriage, but a stable permanent relationship is better than a kid living under a single parent.

  • I would agree wholeheartedly if the second statement was changed to "don't have babies... PERIOD".

    If you want to have children and still be exceptionally wealthy, you're going to have to do a hell of a lot more than get a high school diploma and find a job.

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  • thtat's not how you get rich... those might be contributing factors and/or are correlated, but that's not what makes people rich. i really don't get why people think he's that smart? he knows how to form arguments, but every time i hear him, he just spits a lot of arbitrary shit that are usually invalid.

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  • This actually comes from studying poverty and what are the key reasons for being poor and staying poor. Statistically if you do these 3 things you'll not remain in the poverty band for more than a year, you'll move out and live a comfortable life.

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  • You will be rich is very different from you will not go poor.
    And one more thing is lacking - don't spend more than you're earning.
    Credit cards are abundant in the US.
    When I was there, it's so easy to use credit card and to spend, that I had to use cash to "limit" my spending. LOL.

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  • "Graduate High school" Duh, obviously.
    "Get married before you have babies", you need a solid relationship, marriage certificate not required.
    "Get a job" In America, today, that won't make you rich. A good job might make you well off, but to be rich you have to exploit other people's work.

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  • These aren't the rules to be rich. These are the rules to never be financially poor and yes I do agree with these rules for never being financially poor. Becoming rich is a different subset of rules, but these could help for sure as well. Because you're cutting the fat.

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  • They are more like how to avoid poverty.

    Get a job seems pretty obvious.

    TBH I've read there ARE statistically three things that radically avoid poor outcomes:
    - don't have a baby as a teen
    - don't drop out of school
    - don't go to jail.

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  • It depends on what he means by rich. If he means do these things and you can be a millionaire by the time you retire (i. e. middle class), then sure. It's not going to help you get rich in a reasonable amount of time though.

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  • i mean it's a decent foundation but other huge things have to factor into one's life in order to become rich

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  • That should do a pretty good job of keeping you out of poverty. To get rich you'd want to add something like "work 60-80 hours per week in your 20s," and "save and invest 20% of your income."

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  • nope. It's all BS.

    It should be mentioned that tons of people go to college then are jobless afterwards and end up getting a job not related to their degree.

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    • Except he never mentions college at all dude. He said high school, not college.

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    • @Phoenix98 dude, this dickhead started out by jabbering about how awesome the education system is (college). That was how he made his entire living.

      Listen man. When you are like 17yrs old and you are thrown 10million dollars its hard to jabber about "how to get rich".

    • I don't know what your talking about but Ben isn't a millionaire or 17.

  • These are basics

    To get a better life is to continue education throughout your life.

    Manage money well

    Work on character

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  • Nah lol more like
    1. Suck up to the right dickhead
    2. Work from age 15 and take the right steps to get 1 million by 25 ... invest and grow
    3. Have some luck on your side

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  • It won't make you rich it makes you middle-class. But then again that is pretty rich compared to most of the world

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  • You'd better graduate college after HS and then marry and have a baby once you have a stable job.

    Of course, the simplest way is to have a millionaire dad.

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  • I completely agree with him all the way but the only thing Is not everybody gets married but it is best to wait to you get married to have a kid or until you are financially stable to have a kid

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  • Ben is a good guy. It would pay young people dividends to pay heed to his advice.
    But they won't, they think they already know everything. :)

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    • On update...
      Young people suffer an onslaught of advice, good and bad, and generally cannot sort out the good from the bad. And they feel entitled to some kind of existence which is a total fail. You get what you get, you reap what you sow, you establish a success pattern early on with your studies, you have to rise above the rest, and you have to seize opportunity when it presents itself. Most people miss all their opportunities and then say they have no options.
      And NEVER give up 'till you make it.

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