🤔Don’t men deserve much more credit?

[Anonymous]

Men created everything. Cars, phones, houses, buildings, technology/software, sanitary systems, roads/transport, man put a man on the moon 🌙, men did everything cool. We made the world and EVERYTHING in it for women and kids. Respect men. I also still respect women for giving life. But I think men are the best, it takes a man to do this. You need to be highly intelligent yet ‘stupid’ enough to risk it to change the world

It came with a couple consequences as men have started wars in the past.

I agree

I disagree

Neutral

[Apulu_3]

Yes to be honest men deserve more credits now as all the roads, buildings and all which we use now were built in past when men were given more importance. Yes you are correct but remember that previously women were blocked to do anything. They weren't given the freedom. Well it's not the fault of men of this generation as it was the previous mentality. But we shouldn't see everything from gender. If we see then technically you didn't created all those so you don't have any rights to the credits even though you are a man. The credit goes to the creators not all men. Now if we see the men are suffering more due to toxic masculinity. Why can't the society start again from zero watching everyone as an individual not as a boy or girl. Everyone deserve their own credit. If you did a great work and other men are getting it's credit then you of course won't get the most best feeling as it is like stealing your credits in the name of gender. So respect to those who have done it not to their gender. It's simple, watch everyone as an individual not from their gender, background and all. World could be a better place to live like this. Come on.. grow up. Do something on your own instead of stealing other's credit in the name of gender. And if the thing comes to gender then not the girls are pathetic nor is the line "Ladies first". Both gender and good in their own way. Actually this gender have separated the world in two parts. One is boy other is girl. If we see everyone as an individual then everyone could get their own credits which they deserve and can't steal anyone else's. I'm not in support of any gender here. I'm in the support of humanity. If you see my other opinions and questions then you can see I'm like defending men so don't come to say I'm defending women here. I'm defending the humanity only. Nothing else.

[Cuminginside]

Yeah I can see you're going places.

[Apulu_3]

@Cuminginside Going places?

[Cuminginside]

You have talent wherever you go you will rock.

[Apulu_3]

@Cuminginside Oh thank you

[Cuminginside]

No need for thanks just make us all proud.

[Apulu_3]

@Cuminginside Yes I won't disappoint you all :)

[Anonymous]

The reason why it was mostly men who created stuff was because they were the ones who had the power and money to do so, and women were held back. Women are surely as capable, just look at the few examples of women who was giving the chance.. It is only a disadvantage that the geniuses among women could not be found as well.
And it took many years of smaller experiments before sending a man to the moon xD.. luckily those men were not foolish enough to waste money sending untested stuff into space. We need both the mentality of men and women to make the best advances.
Today companies with a more equal representation is doing better.. the world is not the man's, it is for us all, hence why it makes sense that women are necessary to contribute to shaping and developing our society.
I don't give credit to men in general just because some men in the past had the power to develop a lot of what is in the modern world. I respect those men, but what men make of themself today is what matters for their credit. Same with women obviously.

[Asker]

I’m sorry. But you’re wrong. These days there is so much equality amongst men and there’s no females that are really changing the world like men. Men rule, we have it in a our ball sack that kicks our nuts 🥜 to go forward. Women aren’t capable of all men are. Men created everything, I still only see males in these professions. Women aren’t interested in changing the world, they are not as ambitious or willing as men to achieve.

[Asker]

Since the year 2000 I think more women have been graduating then men. Yet men will always be the ones changing the world, creating things, building successful businesses. This is a fact and you know it

[Opinion Owner]

What am I more exactly wrong about? Like you are obviously wrong about men being risky and therefore going to the moon. It was also not only men working for NASA back then..
I don't know what creations you refer to.. there are women all over in all businesses.. name me one business that only has men who are succesful? Why is it only the men who is going to have the credit? You really think they are the only one doing the deed and women are just for show? If that is the case then please come with some examples and proof of your seemingly delusional talk of how you see the world.

[Opinion Owner]

Like you have a nice pic of Elon Musk.. but did you know that the President and chief operating officer of SpaceX is a woman? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwynne_Shotwell

[Asker]

Yes. I agree but men don’t need women to achieve these things. I agree women can be good working in companies because they are ‘nurturing.’

[Asker]

Elon gets women to handle the shit he can’t be bothered to do. Makes sense when you want to change the world!

[Opinion Owner]

Haha.. well thanks for agreeing.. and since you did not tell me where exactly I am wrong I assume you take that back as well ;).. and in general you do not answer any of my questions so no discussion here anyway.. take care in believing men are the only creators in this world! (quick google search that you you are wrong: www.epo.org/.../women-inventors.html)
I repeat. I will not give credit to anyone who are not doing the deed. If you want to do that, be my guest, plus then you can even feel like you get that credit yourself for just being a man, how convenient!. Getting something without doing the job. Like Elon Musk you say. Maybe a male quality :D

[Opinion Owner]

correct link: www.epo.org/.../women-inventors.html

[Asker]

Oh no I didn’t agree to everything dummy hahaha. There’s one female inventor for every 7 MALE inventors. Yet there’s more women in the world. Effectively useless. It’s funny because women are so ambitious to show the world they are capable but still can’t produce material like men hahahah.

[Asker]

Actually I’m on the way to creating something very special for my career. A career that everyone will need at some point in their life. My dad is super rich from creating companies that involve doing good for humanity and creating jobs for both men and women. I’m very educated and have ideas that will better humanity. I don’t need to be an inventor but I’m doing a lot more good for the world than you hahaha.

It’s very impressive what I’m doing and the level of education I needed to get where I am. People aspire to achieve what I have. I’m not saying the profession as I can’t be bothered to get into specifics. Even the women in my career don’t excel like men do. Women are very beta

[Asker]

Oh yeah and Elon Musk is one of the geniuses of this world. I look up to him. He connects two worlds, business and engineering. He launches his car on a rocket into space, and builds reusable rockets. He’s advancing so many technologies and working at his mental limit to do so. Yet fucking insignificant losers like you who do nothing are hating on him. You have no achievements like us. Maybe I’m a high achiever because I look up to visionaries like him. The fucking keyboard you’re typing on was made by Steve jobs you dumbass

[MCheetah]

@Anonymous
This is so fucking retarded on so many levels.
I'll explain it to you easily: Most of labor in the past was life-threatening and dangerous.
If women did all the labor, no one would be able to have babies and we'd go extinct.
Not to mention, women are physically smaller and weaker than men.
Which is why even in 2021, we still have few female soldiers, construction workers, mechanics, etc, compared to men.
Women were allowed to enter the workforce, once it became safe enough for women to do so, which wasn't until only the 1940s or so, and was exacerbated by World War II. Hence the "iconic" Rosie the Riveter "We Can Do It" poster. Yeah, AT THAT POINT, women could do it, cause they wouldn't risk death or injury as much as they would have 20 years prior.
Women have been shielded from most of the bad stuff in history due to their vital role as birthgivers. And the fact they're physically weaker. But to you, that's considered, "like, heteronormative patriarchy, and oppressing women and shit, ya know?'"
Even know, I guarantee you, you don't work a dangerous or labor-intensive job. Even though all the doors are open to you. Thus, you'll whine about the wage gap next, despite you choosing to work an easy job (most likely; a hard-working woman wouldn't have this mindset).

Women are capable at certain things. But throughout history, science, math, engineering, and inventions haven't been one of them. And even nowadays, most women still haven't come up with much. This just happens to be reality. It's not "holding women back."

How the fuck are you 30-35 and don't understand basic history, or sociology?

[Andres77]

We've also caused all the wars and 99% of sexual trauma and most serial killers.
If we'd confront the factors that contribute to the geniuses and the sexual predators and murderers and support the good and put down the bad... maybe we'd make some progress.

Simple concept, not easy to implement though.
Pride... that's what's stopping any progress in this regard.
@Subarugirl curious about your perspective.
There are councils around the world by a handful of women from Afghanistan, various countries in Africa, India, Pakistan... pushing for equality and women's rights. I applaud them. But it's like reinforcing a dam when the real problem (in many, not all cases) is that there's too much water and the dam is going to break.
If there could be a council on the destructive behavior of men in society and tackle issues from a psychological POV. Starting with raising a boy from his first days in the most productive atmosphere possible.
Religious and cultural issues are going to come up and shoot holes in the concept immediately. Tyrants...
Sabes que? The world is too corrupt to make any progress in this regard.
Nevermind...😞

[Andres77]

I'm not bashing all men.
All the technology and energy and roads and ships... all built by men and supported by women.
Of course I'd want that to continue and not take anything away from the honorable hard working family loving men that have done the work.
It's confronting head on the negative aspects of masculinity that no one has the courage to do.
Like 5% of men that cause a majority of the crime and destruction throughout the world (my guestimate may be off a bit). But the rest of us that are busting our butts trying to do the right thing are getting all the blame. That's BS.
No one can seem to find the middle ground.

[OlderAndWiser]

Most men have a devoted partner who took care of everything else so that he could devote his time to doing something as specyacular as the things you mentioned.

[Asker]

That’s true. That’s facts tbf

[Adam1978]

Your credit should be based on your personal track record not your genders. There is plenty of unproductive and wasteful men. We should not give them more credit. You can't take credit of what other men do, only what you have done. Same as you shouldn't take blame for what they have done. Female might have a bad track record so far but they should have the right to change it. I see little affects in doing so but It doesn't mean we should have sexist society that makes it harder for them to actually do their fair part. Which would be required for an equal society.

[Heartache0405]

Yes. All of men's achievements are taken for granted. We wouldn't have anything if it weren't for men. Everything you see and have, the car you drive and the buildings you live in and work in. The miraculous marvels of the world were thanks to men and men are hated instead of thanked. It's surprising men aren't taking the things theyve made for everyone else back. I suppose that's just the kindness in their hearts that also goes overlooked

[notwoke]

my opinion is that without never ending affirmative action and set asides, very few women would advance in industry, mostly because the majority of them would choose to make their main focus motherhood if given the choice. With no encouragement from special programs, scholarships and getting sent to the front of the line through affirmative action, few women would choose a lifetime of rocket engineering or to be the boss of a mine or quarry. Almost every high level woman in industry that I know got her position mostly because of multiple opportunities given to her over time that a man would never get. The world has not been able to get a meaningful number of blacks to the same status even when we give them the same benefits and now it is causing legal issues.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Neutral. For thress reasons.
1. Both genders had their role in history. During the longest time women didn't had access to the same opportunities men had and we're even burned alive for trying to learn. Even during that time they had a role to play in history as leaders, teachers, mothers and even scientists and army fighters.
2. Literally every major bad event on human history was also caused by men.
3. Great men achievements are not my own. Of I want to brag about the good things other men did because I am also a man, I also have to accept that people blame for all the bad things.

[Xtcy2083]

Neutral. You're right but... I really don't care all that much. I mean, I'm pretty sure that people like Musk there in the photo isn't too concerned about receiving a pat on the back for making electric cars and launching rockets into space. He does it for other reasons.

[Neosporin]

wow you are so attractive

[WhyteNiqqa]

Well yes they're. better than the feminism bullshit. Girls acting as if they're better than us and saying we're all rapist's and perverts

You bring up good arguments oppose to the feminists... What did they do to help the world apart from annoying everyone?

Nothing

[Leonharted]

How many cars have YOU created? How many phones? How many houses or buildings? How many people have you put on the moon?

I'm betting zero. They aren't YOUR accomplishments. Just like you've probably never killed anyone, and therefore shouldn't be ashamed because men murder many more people than women.

[NamerOfStars]

You don't get the whole picture if you only focus on the risks that paid off. While it's true that a society of only women wouldn't have given us multi-terabyte hard drives and casual international travel, most societies of only men would've died out. And I mean that BEYOND the obvious reproductive problems. If EVERYONE'S a risk-taker, sooner or later everyone's going to be dead. You need stability, too.

[Anonymous]

If you mean more credit than the nonsense social media bully groups give us credit for, then yes.
You are too young to realise this activist based resentment is a tedious and very new phenomenon and historically it was different. But then there are plenty of people trying to rewrite history too.

[Shamalien]

Ah but men oppressed women and that’s the only reason why

Is what brainwashed morons will assert. In reality, women in the west have been able to make great advancements and have over the past century especially, but nowhere near on the level of men, and men are not to blame for this.

A little gratitude would be nice. Not to me ofc, but to the great men who built the civilization we now burn in our wanton hedonism spirally towards infinity

[OddBeMe]

Funny, men put other men on the moon with extreme reliance on female mathematicians
www.nps.gov/.../...omen-mathematicians-at-nasa.htm

[Heartache0405]

Who came up with the math that those female mathematicians are using to put men on the moon?

[OddBeMe]

@Heartache0405 lots of people from both sexes. Ancient Egyptians came up with the idea of zero. Should they be credited with all computer tech?

[RedStiletto88]

Rosalind Franklin, Marie Curie, Jane Wright and sooo many other women would like to have a few words with you.

[Asker]

Every now and then a woman comes a long. But men built the world for them to do these things. The amount of men that have made amazing things is endless.

[RedStiletto88]

Without women, men wouldn’t even exist. That means you too.

[Asker]

Without men women wouldn’t even exist?

[Asker]

There’s two parts of the equation or do we need to send you back to sex Ed

[RedStiletto88]

Well Sex Ed was 5th grade. That’s still further ahead than 2/3rd grade behavior by nearly copying what was said and turning it backwards. You might want to mature past that at least.

Anyway no matter. Thanks for conceding that without women none of what you attribute to men wouldn’t exist.

Have a nice day!

[Msputiton]

Lmfao. Gurl🤣

[randoguyonhere1]

There's no point in arguing with women about this. "Privilege is invisible to those that possess it." is a saying for a reason. Any logical person would agree that yes, men primarily *built* the modern world that women occupy. That has and will continue to be the case for thousands of years. However, because of the influx of women in the workplace over the last 60ish years, women have selective amnesia concerning the rest of human history. In short, women didn't want equality until office buildings and air conditioning. When the average man worked in a mine, as a deep sea fisherman or construction, women were happy to stay at home with the kids. You'll learn as you get older that being a man is a thankless job. If you make money to provide for your family so your wife can stay home and raise the kids, you're a misogynist. BUT if you don't have a good job, car, or home then good luck finding a woman who will even look in your direction. My advice, stay off dating apps and get a friend to introduce you to a girl who isn't a feminist.

[MCheetah]

Yeah, I agree. But this is the age you're living in. The same age where George Jetson's wife steals his entire wallet to go buy stupid sh*t while he works for an incompetent 5'11" fat balding manlet for a boss all day. WELCOME TO THE FUTURE!

[MCheetah]

And I don't mean to say women aren't important. But men help keep the real world running. Women are supposed to be the emotional core and reason WHY men aspire to be great. Both genders kinda suck nowadays, though. This is the age of soyboys and feminists and everything is "offensive."

[midnightmoon05]

Both gender contribute differently. when both love each other … the world will be a much better place.

[Dontaaaa]

Give credit/respect to the men who actually did/do the shit.


Don't expect to get respect just because your a man, you get credit/respect based on what you do, not based on your gender.

[Anonymous]

True, except for the sexual reproductive reasons there is no need in females as a species. But at least look at the bright side: we can enjoy sex, can have life time partner who is better than a male, can have their emotional support. Also they are more caring than males. Life would be so boring without them

[Deathly_Pheonix]

No they didnt😂😂😂 white men just wipe all of the innovation that came from women and poc to look better

[Anonymous]

Oh look, another underage blowhard troll with too much time on his hands.

[Opinion Owner]

What I can’t accept is that you’re over 18.

[Opinion Owner]

Saying that you’re under 18 isn’t an insult, just a fact. You’re the one with the string of insults, and clearly you don’t really have a question, you just wanted to be provocative because you’re loaded with e-courage and zero substance. A classic troll. Back under the bridge with you.

[Opinion Owner]

Gotta fight for that last word don’t you.

[clampfan101]

Men sent men to the moon with a ton of help from women computers, so…
Also women haven’t been given nearly as much opportunity. (Ye olden times “Don’t be smart! Only be my cook, maid, and bedmate!”.)

[Chthou95]

This is obvious. Men created most of everything. Civilization was built by men.