Should people who identify as female be forced to have their male reproductive organ removed?

[Anonymous]

I mean if you want to be called a female, say that you are a female and feel like you are a female why not have it completely removed and "truly" become what you believe yourself to be?

Side Note:Personally I don't believe in the term "Transgender" there is Male and Female (Adam and Eve) God Did Not Create A 3rd Gender nor does God Make Mistakes, so unless you know more then God you have no right to claim to be something that doesn't now or has ever existed.

Gender Fluid is also not real. You are born with either XY (male) or XX (female) chromosomes. Your chromosomes do not randomly change from one to the other and then swap back when someone is looking. Nor can a surgery change them nor hormone shots or any other treatment / method known to man. The fact that anyone even acknowledge this term in the first place is the most offensive thing I have ever heard.

The same goes for the term "sexually fluid" you are either, Heterosexual (someone attracted to the opposite gender), Bisexual (someone who is attracted to both genders) or Homosexual (someone who is attracted to the same gender) maybe even Asexual (someone who isn't sexually attracted to either gender).

I have no problem with gays, bisexuals, straight people nor do I have issue with people preferring women clothes (heck my next door neighbor come out to me about his preference for it and my reaction was okay... So what? What you wear is up to you it's none of my business nor do I have any reason to judge you.)

Unfortunately I feel that the current generation has lost most of not all touch with reality. From "all white people are racist" to "you should kill whites whenever you can even if it were a new born baby". MLK (Martin Luther King Jr) tried to preach of a world where no one would care about color and we can all live together peacefully yet BLM says white = hate and apparently we need black only cities as well
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Updates

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This entire thing is becoming tedious, so I'm going to give everyone 30 minutes starting at :45 after the current hour to finish saying whatever then I'm closing this. I've provided proof that there are two posters not just me with a duplicate account by providing a twitch link with me and the other person talking together. Any further accusations of that nature will be considered harassment.

Updates

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My final comment on all of this before I close this it's simply this if these people truly feel they are female truly believe they are female then why would they have a problem with going all the way and looking like a female why hold on to the one thing that would even remotely question their gender that to me is completely illogical

[ChrisMaster69]

Basically you believe in the Bible but not science and stuff that does actually go on in hospitals etc.

by chance are you American?

https://massivesci.com/articles/sex-gender-intersex-transgender-identity-discrimination-title-ix/

http://www.scientistafoundation.com/lifestyle-blog/why-sex-isnt-binary

https://isna.org

https://watchdogsgazette.com/science-2/even-biological-sex-is-not-binary/

https://www.dw.com/en/why-sex-and-gender-arent-binary-issues/a-57062033

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/environmentalaccounts/articles/whatisthedifferencebetweensexandgender/2019-02-21

https://www.nature.com/articles/518288a#Tab1

It’s amazing how people believe stories dreamed up thousands of years ago but not modern science, which even those on the hook for it admit they are just finding more and more about.

[ChrisMaster69]

@Wind_N_Willows no I am saying fuck all The scientists etc in the links above are.

Oh and waving good bye

[ChrisMaster69]

@Wind_N_Willows and you will always be a hateful bigot

What are you then, a guy with a pink account?

How would you describe that?

[Dchrls78104]

Human gender is not interchangeable. To be a female you have to be born with a vagina; to be a male you have to be born with a penis. Anything else is unnatural and fraudulent. Anyone lying about his/her gender is a criminal and an impostor and should be treated as such.

[Xoxocutekitty]

This sounds awful, but if the government personally enforces/sponsors this 'forced' bodily procedure, it would take the financial burden off the individual for gender affirmation surgery.

So in a weird way, I'd be for that if it means that transfolks can have gender affirmation surgery at no cost to them.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Cool story.

Anyway, if you're paying for their gender affirming surgery then sure, if they want it. If they don't, stay away from them. I mean, I'm not about to get into a religious battle but loads of mistakes have been made. It's cool. We were made in his image and we are just as fallible.

[Asker]

So your cool with someone who "Identity's as a female" with a penis being in the restroom at the same time as you?

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Sure. They are probably just there to use the restroom and get back out the same as the rest of us. If they are trying to get into my stall to attack me, chances are they were gonna do that regardless of how they identify.

[SecretsofKB]

This gentlemen was hard to follow.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Typical "here is my beliefs" and also "I only listen to the radical sides of things and base my opinions on those" kind of posts.

Appears to lack the ability to be objective and find middle ground without attempting to resorting to extreme arguments to try and prove his point.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Furthermore, I notice the Marvel shirt so maybe I can compel him with comic book logic.

Thomas, if you think back to the Mutant Registration Act, you would clearly be on the wrong side of the debate. Should our favorites like Rogue or Psylocke be forced to accept treatments to remove their mutant abilities just because you are uncomfortable with their abilities?

[ChrisMaster69]

@SecretsofKB you could say that.

[Asker]

If they identified as mutants but had no more "mutant abilities" as you or I do you think we should call them mutants? lol. Nice try, unfortunately my life motto is Plan for the worse, hope for the best and expect somewhere in the middle. The worse is every single person who claims that they identify as a female are "rapist" trying to get close to potential victims... The best is they all of a mental illness which needs treating instead of indulging (you wouldn't tell someone with body dysmorphic who thinks that they are fat) that they really need to lose weight... Now somewhere in the middle is some are rapist waiting to get close to victims while others believe that they are female despite being male and need treatment.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

What kind of logic is that? I'd love to see your studies and statistics for that claim.

I know my experience of people not understanding boundaries with me were straight cis males. Not once have I ever had a trans person attempt anything with me.

You clearly are acting dense because I don't take you for an idiot. It's a terrible defective behavior when you understood what I meant in my example. This points to you intentionally being dense or perhaps your only intention is to troll, neither of which are appealing qualities in a guy who is attempting to portray himself as an intellectual.

The DSM5 manual written by people who are much more educated than you and I are on the subject recommend transition as the cure. Your suggestion is just that, a suggestion. One that lacks any nuance or education behind it and instead relies on the idea of God being a correct one, which the Bible itself was written by fallible men.

[Asker]

Okay... Prisons that have accepted men "identifying as female" have suddenly ended up with pregnant inmates. So either a female got a female pregnant... Or a Male had sex with them, now if the forced removal was how things were... Then it would have been impossible.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Female guards have slept with male inmates too and become pregnant. What's your point?

The correct answer is still no, because then chemical castration becomes a slippery slope to use when it comes to something we don't like.

Should trans people get it against their will? You'd think so.

How about child molesters?

How about anyone who has ever committed rape?

Does that also include those who were just simply a year older than their girlfriend in a state that doesn't have Romeo and Juliet laws in the books?

What about those with known disabilities?

How about those who have committed murder and have high testosterone levels?

I can keep going but I (hopefully) think you get my point.

[Asker]

Let me get this straight you haven't read about all of the people who had the surgeries who has regretted doing so? If they truly believe that they should have been a female why should it be a big deal to Loose something that "identifies" them as male? I would think that they would be thankful. As for identifying as anything... Does that mean if people start identifying as animals we should treat them as such? If so is it beastiality to be intimate with them (before you say that's ridiculous even on CSI they did an episode that explored that community) as did Ripley's Believe It or Not.

[Wind_N_Willows]

How in the world do you believe just because somebody thinks in their head that they're another gender that anthropologist can tell bones of a female and a male. It won't show what that person believes himself to be hence it's all in their head it's not real. You're going to die how you are biologically born. There are so many men with beards that have their branch and berries intact and still say call me a woman because I wear a dress. There's no logic.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

I have several trans friends at different stages of transition whether it be mtf, ftm or genderfluid. I have done research and those numbers are less than 5% at last read.

Your solution is to force everyone to get it regardless which isn't fair to those who don't want or need the surgery pushing that 5% regret higher and doing further damage to them. The alternative is to not let them transition which you have also offered as a solution. Transgendered individuals has a nearly 42% suicide rate with being unable to transition or feeling fake being the primary factors next to not being accepted by family/society. So that solution only leads to more death.

Honestly, those who advocate for transgender individuals not being able to transition should get checked themselves for mental instability as they seem ok with death.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Why, hello there brand new account who's first post is here just to make a comment on this topic.

Assuming I take you at face value as being real, what's your point?

I can claim myself to be double D cups and get implants to match, but when I die and rot, you'll see the silicone implants. Doesn't cause anyone to bat an eye.

[ChrisMaster69]

@Wind_N_Willows if you are so caught up in the science, then read the links I provided and refute them….

Oh and amazing hitting this very question with a brand new account on a fairly random question.

Never really seen someone create a 2nd account before.

@PrettyPriya what’s Admins view on duplicate accounts?

[PrettyPriya]

@ChrisMaster69 If an account is found to be duplicate, one of the accounts will be removed and forever cancelled.

[Wind_N_Willows]

I'm sorry what you said makes no sense. I was saying that when a person dies that's only claiming that they're a female but yet they're a male their gender can be determined through their bones. A woman that gets fake boobs will still be found to be a woman, or a man pretending to be a woman through their bones.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Oh let me break it down for you then.

I can make any claim I want and when I die you'll be able to tell things like biology or things like implants. Why make a big deal over one but not the other?

[ChrisMaster69]

It’s amazing how the asker and the new pink don’t post at the same time…

Must have left his IPad down stairs, quick run downstairs to get it…

Just saying 🙄

[Asker]

Actually chemical castration wouldn't completely solve those issues... Since said people still have figures and toes and from what I understand most of the time rape and murder is more about power and control versus high testosterone.

[Wind_N_Willows]

Because you have transgender saying that they're real women. They're always saying I'm a real woman. No they're not they are in their heads. Why isn't your brain understanding this they're not real women or if they die it would show their real women. They have a mental illness that makes him believe they're genetically the same as females born females they say that I'm a real woman. So you believe that a transgender woman is the same as a woman who was born a female? Doctors would differ anthropologist would differ.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

And intentionally dense? Oh gosh you may be right, Chris.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Thomas, it would severely hamper them as testosterone is the primary factor in sex drive. Without it, they would be less likely to do so.

Willow- what aren't you getting? We understand that biologically they'll never full be female but we still support them anyway and I still will consider them like a sister

[Asker]

Okay I'm a bit confused here. You are replying to two people at one time in one comment that was a reply to my comment. Sex drive has nothing to do with rape, rape is a power trip nothing more.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Intentionally playing dumb again? They are clearly labeled as to who I was addressing in each.

Rape is a power trip, which is typically driven by higher levels of testosterone in both men and women.

[Asker]

So you don't think it could just be an adrenaline versus testosterone thing?

[Ez-Bri-Z]

If you are in a fist fight is your first instinct to rape someone?

[Wind_N_Willows]

Speaking as a female I do not consider a man trying to be a woman as a sister. And it seems like you just admitted that yes we know they'll never be a full woman. But they all say I'm a real woman so when you confirm that they are women and not a man transgendering to a woman that just means they're men. It's like you don't even hear want to be women saying transgender women are women and you just said no they're not fully women. So thank you for at least admitting that. Tell them that. There are no sisters of mine. They need help like an anorexic person needs help because they see themselves as fat.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Nobody is asking you to see them as one. They are just asking you not to be a dick about it. That doesn't seem so hard for me to do. Beyond that, I'm perfectly fine seeing them as sisters. It doesn't hurt me. It doesn't make either of us any less or more of a women by accepting or denying them.

[Asker]

Proof that the pink account isn't a duplicate (the other person speaking and admitting to things they've said in this post... https://m.twitch.tv/videos/1283778427 )

Also... www.google.com/.../watch%3Fv%3DEtqCgkOOjYc&ved=2ahUKEwii_6aWy9_1AhXOmmoFHd3UD8EQo7QBegQIOxAF&usg=AOvVaw360msqaVzhVtmDGvTqPaxF

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Heck of a way to get twitch views for your stream.

Ok and so what?

[Wind_N_Willows]

Yes they are asking you to see them as the gender they wish they were. So when you say you know transgender women I find it hard to believe because every transgender woman says use the pronoun she and her.
How is that not asking people to see them as the gender that Biologically they're not,
And if they're wearing makeup if they're wearing very feminine clothes and acting like a female how is that not wanting people to see them as one?
What you said makes absolutely no sense.
Did you watch the Dr Phil transgender episode? The man with a beard and the very feminine outfit?
I am all for drag queens I love love love by drag queens but there's a difference between drag queens and transgenders. A drag queen is art it's theatrical I researched the history of the drag queen. All the way back in Shakespearean times they needed more women sometimes to fill out parts in the plays the men would dress up as females.
that's where it all starts. I would link you the sources but I can't it won't let me yet.

[Asker]

I put the Twitch stream up to allow her to talk along with me so that she herself could verify that there are two people with two different accounts versus one person with two accounts.

[Wind_N_Willows]

You are so funny. You and a few others think that he made two profiles.
The only thing that Twitch reveals is I am me I am a female from birth, not just in my head. I am a real woman.
Like a transgender women likes to believe they are.
. So I'm talking on it and he's talking on it and guess what at the same time.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

How exactly does the twitch reveal anything about your gender?

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Also, I don't care if you believe that I'm friends with transgendered individuals. I'll take my real world experience of those who go through an actual transition over yours of "ew yucky" this is weird and I refuse to be a decent human being about it.

Also lol bringing that quack Dr Phil into a serious conversation.

I'm fully aware of the difference between drag and transgender. Im unfortunately not blessed enough to be friends with a member of drag though.

[Asker]

Let's see... Male talking and a female talking (voice tone pitch everything about them different) at the same time (Over lapping in some cases) to my knowledge it's not possible to overlap your own voice (if I could do that it would be awesome) that being the case 2 people... And the female admitting yes she was posting here about this topic. Equals me having a duplicate profile is not the case.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Oh is that all?

[Wind_N_Willows]

Well I'm sorry that you believe a trans women are women you believe they are equal to you they're exactly the same sex that you are.
Without going through all the things that women had to fight for they can just claim it.
But you're young you'll learn.
Oh yeah I've have friends that are in drag shows.
And as a VERY proud lesbian I have an issue with transgenders being in the LGB group.
okay trans is to do with the way you believe that you are "gender".
Your sexual orientation has to do with who you're attracted to. So I think the trans community needs to get out of a community that's for sexual orientation meaning who you're attracted to. I will stand with my LGB community.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

First off, I'd like to counter point your voice thing with the link ill provide shortly of me doing multiple voices by myself.

I'm also a very proud lesbian and have been with my wife between dating and marriage for over 20 years.

Whether you like it or not lgbT includes transgendered people so if you'd like to exclude yourself from the rainbow rather than a whole set of people, please feel free to do so.

Lgbt includes a lot of things that are beyond sexual orientation.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

https://voca.ro/19LbXuRmRVPf

[Asker]

Twitch as far as I know doesn't have an on the fly audio adjustment program, especially not on a console. Second two voices at the Same Time. You an argue with me all day, honestly I'm not obligated to "prove" anything. I offered that as a way to appease people so that they could stop making baseless accusations and just get on with the topic at hand.

[Wind_N_Willows]

You're hysterical kiddo.
You mean you can talk in multiple voices exactly at the same time cuz that's what me and my brother were doing.
Trans will never ever be on the same level as biological women. They can cry about it all they want and wish it. See if a man can pretend he's a woman.
Then who's to say a human being can't see themselves as a tree or an animal.
Would it make them one? Never. Misogyny at its finest ladies and gentlemen a man saying I am going to assert myself as a woman and go into women's spaces.
A lot of transgender women are getting women pregnant and women's prisons read those articles. They say they're real women nope women don't have sperm and women can't go to bed with another woman and make a baby.
See kiddo I stand for real women not these little wannabes.

[sirderpsalot123]

Ez-bri-z I regarding the whole bathroom thing, I like how people always use "what if they plan on assaulting you" when the reality is public bathrooms are not the hot spot for rapes, (you are more likely to be raped/sexually assaulted at home by someone you know) and transgender people are more likely to hurt themselves before they hurt anyone else. I can understand why people might be uncomfortable with sharing a bathroom with the opposite sex, but not for safety reasons.

[SecretsofKB]

Hey, if proud lesbians are piping in then... hey... I'm here too...

But the point of LGBT+ it's to be INCLUSIVE so you need to check which colors you aren't including...

[ChrisMaster69]

Well it’s a fairly offensive question tbh.

Since you mentioned God, consider this.

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?” (Matthew 7:1–3)

John 13:34 “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.

While going through your Hate for other humans reflect a bit on things.

You know this try being nice to people and not judgmental with offensive posts.

[ChrisMaster69]

@SecretsofKB yep
Asexuals, Greys, Intersex, Demisexual going to do

[PrettyPriya]

This is over. Everyone understand? Yes? If not, I will remove under Spam/Troll. I am not in the mood.

[Wind_N_Willows]

A lot of rapes have occurred when transgenders have went into real women's bathrooms. A 15-year-old boy "transgirl." Raped two naturally born females.
The transgender women who are in women's prisons have ended up getting real women pregnant and a lot of the prisoners say that they were raped by these transgender women. I think if you're a transgender and in jail with natural born females they should be kept separate from the natural Born women because naturally born women that end up getting pregnant in prisons is sad.
Especially the ones that are raped by these men who can now a man now can just say I'm a woman and be able to go to a woman's prison. And a lot of states.
Transgenders need their own jails their own bathrooms. Cuz when I talk to females I want to talk to women that really understand things I have gone through since I was little you know the natural hormone changes that girls go through that are different than how boys hormone changes work when they're young. I like talking to other women that understand how giving birth feels birth stories.
I can never talk about or question a trans woman how her birth was.

[PrettyPriya]

@Wind_N_Willows Done! Get it?

[SecretsofKB]

@ChrisMaster69

I just don't get it. I'm a member of a group that isn't "normal" to some. Some people have a problem with it. I want to be included and seen just like everyone else.

So it only makes sense that I would be willing to include everyone else... it is only fair.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Serderpsalot - its because they parrot the same talking points. They have very little to their argument.

"But biologically..."
"Protecting women in the bathroom..."

Its frankly tired arguments and if they were that concerned about women's safety they'd do more to believe them when they are assaulted by family members because you are 100% correct on that.

Willow - kiddo? Wow I haven't been called that in years despite even not looking 42. So thanks for that. Can I do multiple voices at the same time? Never tried, but it might be a project for later. I can already do a ton of unique things with my vocal cords and throat. You don't stand for me though you are welcome to stand somewhere far away from me.

KB - hi fellow awesome lesbian friendo!

[PrettyPriya]

That's it. I get one more...

[Wind_N_Willows]

PrettyPriya so you want to censor other people because you don't like a topic. You don't have to comment on a topic you don't like. Just don't read it if you don't like less being said. Just don't read it. But you're about censorship.

[ChrisMaster69]

@PrettyPriya one more?

[PrettyPriya]

@Wind_N_Willows You are under violation of spamming/trolling. Don't push it. I am not censoring anyone. This conversation, that I am sadly getting notifications for is out of hand. That is the violation. I am asking for everyone to stop.

[ChrisMaster69]

@Wind_N_Willows you are both Trolling an offensive post.

[Wind_N_Willows]

@PrettyPrya
I just would like to know exactly how I'm trying? I have people saying that I am not my own person that somehow my brother has two accounts. And they won't stop. I am asking you just simple questions. Everybody should have the freedom to express themselves. Freedom of speech is good.

[PrettyPriya]

@Wind_N_Willows Everyone, but you, has stopped. Might be a good time to do the same.

[Wind_N_Willows]

Okay I will.
I just believe in the freedom of speech and everybody has a right to feel and say and think and believe the way they choose. I just wish everybody the best.

[MrOracle]

Cutting off their dick doesn't make them female. In fact, NOTHING will make them female.

If it makes them feel better to portray themselves that way, I don't mind, but at the same time, I have zero interest in trans-women, and would not take it kindly being deceived (though I'm pretty good at identifying them, so that's unlikely, though not impossible).

There are men who are fine with being with trans women - regardless of "equipment" - and that's great, but trans women need to be very aware that this is the exception and not the rule, and deceiving straight men can be dangerous - even deadly - with some men, because it's taken as a direct attack on his masculinity.

[Staximus]

You're not a woman, girl, female, or "she" if you weren't born with a vagina. If you were born with a dick, you're a male, man, boy, him, etc. That's how it is in the medical community, scientific community, and in the real world. I don't care what you "identify as". If you were born with a dick, you're about as much of a woman as I am a fucking tree. How does it sound if I say "I identify as a tree"? It sounds fucking crazy, right? This is mental illness. We need to stop acting like this is normal behavior. Just because you want to be a woman doesn't make you a woman.

[Wind_N_Willows]

Of course they should.
I mean if you're going to identify as a female who is born with a vajayjay then you should have a vagina.
And if you identify as a male then you should go and get a branch and berries.
The thing I find very interesting is in Egypt century old mummies their identifying them through their bones to find out if they're male or female.
So it doesn't matter what you call yourself you're still either a male or a female.
It's like somebody saying they identify as a hamster but when they die they'll be able to be identified as either a male female human.
I do feel bad for transgender people because there's something wrong with their chromosomes in the brain or their brain functions.

[GlassTop]

You can’t identify as female. Female is a sex, which is XX chromosome with reproductive organs. You mean gender, which means nothing these days. So people can identify whatever they want. However, if you google woman, it says “adult female”. So gender pronouns are currently just a word game that people are still trying to figure out.

[Pohjolan]

No.
Q: What does usually happen when some gets a extra hole in the torso area?

A: They get labelled; Priority 1, critical.

Such procedures are not very healthy resulting often in complications and should not be enforced by the state.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

That’s like if a white person who’s blind claims to be black so people rip off his skin Pin Head style and try putting on a skin bag from an actual black person

[BeMuse]

They should be sent to a mental institution. You don't remove all of a persons skin when they think they are an orange. You say, damn they're a bit off their rocker...

[Asker]

And yet society today says that if a Transgender says they are a female we should "respect that and address them by their pronoun" instead of having them committed, otherwise sexual reassignment surgery would be a crime due to it being mutilation of a mentally unstable individual.

[BeMuse]

That's not my society... Be careful who you mingle with, there are some sick fucks out there.

[DonkeyDan]

You'd think that someone who'd reached the age of 41 would have more intelligence than this, but I guess its understandable with your clear backward religious views.

[Wind_N_Willows]

Anthropologist look at bones all the way from the Pharaoh Egyptian time and can tell female bones from male bones.
So a trans woman who says he's a real woman can never be and never will be a real woman. Fax will always be facts and a trans will never be a full woman.

[Asker]

Backward religious view. So Genesis is backwards? Because personally that is the only thing I have said that mentioned the Bible at all.

[DonkeyDan]

Yes Genesis is without question backwards thinking.

[Anonymous]

Only if they want to go into female spaces. I wanted to be a woman for years until I realized the problem wasn't with my body. Fortunately I didn't try to transition so I don't have any I'll effects from hormones or unnecessary surgeries. 98% of people who identify as the other gender grow out of it if they don't transition.

[Asker]

How about if they go to bars with the intention of going on dates with straight people while claiming to be a female? Should that be a criminal offense (it is fraud after all)

[Opinion Owner]

I don't know. I don't go to bars to find someone to date. I always thought people went to bars to hookup. And that if you can't tell it is a man at the bar you're going to find out when you get home and you can always not have sex with someone you go home with.

[sirderpsalot123]

No. I think these people are suffering from a mental illness and we should encourage them NOT to mutilate their bodies until they grow out of it, because it has been proven that most transgender people do in fact grow out of it.

[Wind_N_Willows]

I don't like the fact that they try to force people who have eyes and can see to call them something they are not. If I see that you have a beard and your masculinity is shining through and you have a female's clothes on and you're like calling me a female I'll be like I call people the way I see them the way that they were biologically born. I will never encourage people that see themselves a a biological sex that aren't.

[sirderpsalot123]

Like I said, it's a mental illness. They aren't thinking clearly. We are the ones who know better but we should be gentle about it. I genuinely feel bad for transgender people and don't want them harmed or made fun of. Calling them by what they are isn't making fun of them though.

[sirderpsalot123]

Post like these just seem a bit hateful to me

[Wind_N_Willows]

To me he's just asking a question. Because so many trans women say I'm a real woman. And now society is pushing others to treat them like what they believe they are call them a she and a her. It's pushing people to help mentally ill people stay mentally ill. I'll just I just tell them I'll say I'm not going to give in and do that. I don't feel right helping a mentally ill person's mental illness I can't. I was anorexic I wouldn't have wanted people to encourage what I seen in my head I seen a fat person when I was already skinny. I will never encourage mental illness.

[sirderpsalot123]

Sorry to hear that you struggled with that. Glad you worked through it

[Wind_N_Willows]

Thank you very much. I just wish everybody the best I don't hate anybody it hurts me too that people suffer with mental illnesses. And it hurts me that they want people to justify their mental illness in saying show me that I'm right show me that I'm okay by acknowledging I'm something I'm not.
I have cried for transgender people. And when I hear stories are transgender people being killed. That hurts me no human being walking the face of this Earth should ever be killed.
Have an amazing week.

[call_me_scar]

When and doubt let's not pull a page out of 1900s christianity and force genital mutilation if someone wants it they should have full access to get it but if they don't want it for whatever reason then whatever it ain't gonna keep me up at night

[Wind_N_Willows]

I guess you have to take that up with anthropologist. That uses bones skeletal remains of people and they identify whether a person is a male or a female. So this proves that trans people are not real women or real men. They only think they are. Like anorexics believe that they're overweight. I was anorexic for a very very long time. And it was all in my head just like a transgender.

[call_me_scar]

Old girl go read a the dsm 5 being trans isn't a disease that is a myth like Adam and eve or the myth that blood is blue until it hits oxygen. Also I'm guessing both you and the OP are on the right correct if so then I thought you two were supposed to be against big government forcing you to do things to your body I guess that doesn't apply here huh

[Wind_N_Willows]

It's called gender dysmorphia.
I am against the government telling you what you should do with your body medically.
So you think it's absolutely normal when a man says I'm a real woman. When as I have showed him proven they are not real women.
They could tell by bones who is a real woman and who is a real man. It's mentality it's how they look at themselves in their mind mentally that they see a female.

Just like an anorexic we'll see an overweight person.
Would you tell an anorexic person oh yes you're fat keep doing what you're doing.

[exitseven]

No, people have the right to autonomy over their own bodies.

[Anonymous]

While transgenders are not 3rd gender. God did create third gender with both organs. They are called hermaphrodites.

[Wind_N_Willows]

Go look up how extremelygo look up how extremely rare thatgo look up how extremely rare that is. Go read what anthropologist says about being able to tell a male from a female just by bones.

[Anonymous]

Are u scared of how attracted you are to dicks on trans women?

[Asker]

Not interested at all. In fact if you bothered to ready above statement you'd find I don't believe in "Transgender" in the first place. However if someone is going to say "I am a Ma'am" call me Mary... And Truly believe that they were always meant to be a female... Why would they themselves not want something that basically says they are liars around to prove that they are not what they claim to be?

[Opinion Owner]

There could be many reasons.

[Asker]

What if the situation was this... You are a lesbian, you go to a gay bar to pick up a chick. You get her home things start getting hard and heavy... Then "she" pulls out "her" dick wanting to fuck you... Are you still cool with this idea or would this be an issue?

[Recurrence]

I don’t think they should have to have reassignment surgery

[Wind_N_Willows]

Why shouldn't they? If you get these men that are saying they are real women. Then why not be a female a total female cuz when they're born females are born they have the JJ's. And anthropologist can look at bones that's been around for centuries and can tell a male from a female just from Bones well if a man wants to be a true female it's not going to happen. Sex goes all the way down to the bones. So if sex can be determined through bones then trans women are not real women. They're just men Who for some reason in their head believe something that science and anthropology can prove otherwise.

[OddBeMe]

Why would you care?

The fact you think about this is revealing.

[Asker]

I "care" because this is illogical... If you really want to be a female bad enough that you've gone through hormone and other therapies to think and look like a female why stop right before the finish line? Imagine you are a runner... It's your dream to win the 100 meter dash... You've trained for years but the second you get to the finish line you just STOP and stand there... Shouldn't someone push you over the finish line so you achieve your goal and succeed? Lol. Better still would be never to attempt to run the race in the first place.

[OddBeMe]

And I think you should vaccinate. But apparently neither of us are dictators.

[Asker]

Vaccination, now there's another good topic. Personally I disagree but only under certain circumstances... Example if you stay home 364 days a year 24/7 hours on the days you stay in and are out for no more then 30 minutes while in a mask from the moment you unlock your front door until that door is shut with you back inside... (You have all food delivered to your door wear a mask and keep away from people) that there is No Chance you will become infected let alone spread it to another if you somehow did become infected... Why get it? The only person you're endangering is yourself as such why should it matter to another person? Meanwhile you have "Fully Vaccinated" people walking around no mask talking in other people's faces and if they do catch it (since the symptoms are "Slight" or don't show up at all) they spread it around unknowingly on a daily basis.

[KarimScreamy]

I think they should do whatever they want. No one should be forced to do anything.

[Asker]

Okay, however if you start dating and you end up bringing a nice woman home who happens to have a such, hope you're cool with it :)

[Anonymous]

Yeah I wonder that too but you’re right, there is only two sexes

[lrina]

i mean, it would make sense i suppose

[msc545]

No - what is the point?

[msc545]

So Thomas Morris, you clever fellow, I just read what you wrote and I am sorry I answered this at all.